The 25-06 can do everything a 257 Wby can do at half the cost.

Has one of the flatest trajectories of any rifle cartridge. One awesome long range shooter!😎👍

Whoa. Two Ron Spomer videos in a week? This is a treat.

@arborist460

3 жыл бұрын

Life’s good

I only had the pleasure to sight in only 2 Weatherby s in my life a 240 and a 257 . Love the accuracy of the 240 tested with one of my hand loads. The 257 was factory loads with 117 round nose.. Shot around 1 inch groups . Only shot two 3 shot groups. The 4x Ziess scope that was mounted on the rifle was more impressive than the rifle. This was back in 1982. Made my 3x9 Leupolds look bad. Had great vision back then and a crack shot . The rich business men that knew me in my profession would have me sight in their deer hunting rifles. The owner of the company I work for would pull me off the job before deer season to do it. That was the good old days for me.

Thanks for doing a video on the 257 Weatherby!

The .257 has always intrigued me, but I’m a 25-06 fan brother. Its my go-to cartridge.

@hammerslammer3006

3 жыл бұрын

Well, what can't you do with it? 👍

@charlesmccoy5857

3 жыл бұрын

Yep I have to agree, Have owned the 25-06 for over 40 years and killed everything from fox to elk with it, but I also enjoy my 257 Weatherby, and my 257 Roberts, all great rifles.

I bought one years ago when I did a lot of crop damage control. I bought 3 cases of the 87gr factory loads and 2 cases of 100gr factory loads. I was going to use the 100gr for hogs. The deer,hog,and coyotes all dropped to the 87gr just fine. I could hold on the the animals out to 400 yds. Over the years I sold the original rifle and bought another. Its a grate round. Over crop fields.

I have a 257 Roy and LOVE it and this was a well presented history of the 257 class of cartridges. While it is good to hear that bullet makers are offering 25 cal bullets with higher BCs, I prefer the 100g Barnes TTSX which has a much lower BC but shoots like a laser beam out past 300 yards.

@Drivapete

3 жыл бұрын

I have no problem shooting elk using Barnes 100gr TTSX. Absolutely floors em!!

Nicely done Ron. Recently picked up a 257 Weatherby, can't wait to try it on speed goats this fall. Who cares if it burns barrels, you're right. Shooting is fun, so the more you shoot the fun you have. If someone is worried about burning out a barrel, get a bow and a hand full of arrows. Cheers, Jeff.

@jackdundon2261

2 жыл бұрын

If you buy a Ferrari, you don't ask the dealer about MPG! -- life is shirt, if you live shooting FAST BULLETS. Okay, figure a new barrel every few years! LIFE IS TOO DAMN SHORT! Go enjoy your passion!

@earlchesnut9017

Жыл бұрын

Well I have to say this Ron I've never killed ab animal with the 25-06 iam having a weatherby built can't say why u haven't used the cartridge for hunting guess have to give O'Conner credit ice use the 270:for 50 years ther us nothing the 25-06 can do the 270 can't do yes I've owned several 25-06 but never fired one always replaced the Barrell for some other caliber but have high hopes for the 257 weaterby coming my way

I've been running my 257 wby since 2014. Absolutely love that round.

This is by far my favorite barrel burner. Would not give up my 257 for anything.

@adolfo206

2 жыл бұрын

what would be the expected round count before your barrel burns out?

@erictiry6483

2 жыл бұрын

@@adolfo206 800 to 1000 depending upon how hot you load it. If you use milder loads it will last longer than that.

@adolfo206

2 жыл бұрын

@@erictiry6483 Thank you Eric, this is means " new rifle at least every other year"

@erictiry6483

2 жыл бұрын

@@adolfo206 if you shoot more than the average person. The current 257 I have now I have had for three years. I only put about 150 to 200 rounds through it a year. the biggest thing is if you are shooting from the bench space your shots and clean it after about 10 shots. this has worked very well for me with the other hot rod cartridges i have.

I like my 7x57 Mauser ! It has all the punch I need !

Tanks Ron for another great video. When I lived in Wyoming I used the 257 for everything and never had to take a second shot. I never had to do a lot of tracking after the shot either. Speed goat to elk the 257 just put it on the ground with great authority. It is a relatively easy round to shoot as well. I never took shots much past 400, I know my own limitations. The 257 shot so flat it took all the guess work out to around 400 just put the cross hairs on fur and it was going down. I now live in the mid west and use the little 7-08 for the most part. I bought the 7-08 for my son when he was starting out. After seeing just how well that little round performed. I grabbed one for my self in light weight handy rifle. I have a big safe full of all kinds of calibers from 22 to 458 but I do 99% of big game with the 257 and 7-08. The other with a 300 Weatherby only if I am in big bear country.

@Drivapete

3 жыл бұрын

Much like you s green, the 257 Roy is my go to caliber for Idaho deer and elk. No goats in N. Idaho, but a S. Idaho hunt is on my bucket list. I also have a. 250-3000 model 99a that was given to me 50yrs ago as my 1st rifle, killed many deer and pigs without any issues! The 100gr Barnes TTSX is by far the most effective bullet for me, drops elk and deer in their tracks. 75.5 gr of H1000 @3.270 oal, Federal 215 lrm match primers at approximately 3525 fps. Work up carefully as this is max load. Works great in my Vanguard ll.

@Hondayo77

2 жыл бұрын

what is a good zero distance for the 257 weatherby

@Drivapete

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hondayo77 I use 200yds as my zero, out to around 250yds just hold dead on and fire. Also I know my ballistics and use Strelok.com ballistic app, which I find to be very accurate.

My dad gave me his 257 mark V back in the early 80s. I still have it. He loaded 120 grain bullets using 264 Winchester brass.

It's a barrel burner!!! Proceeds to smile like a kid in a candy store when talking about how fast it is.

@montuckyman4982

3 жыл бұрын

Luckily, they make new barrels every day! Just slap a new one on as needed. Pay to play! If you want speed there are always drawbacks. How fast do you wanna go?

The best thing about my 257 mag is that I have faith in the rifle and cartridge. Since I don't reload, ammunition availability and price are the only downfall.

@TheNavalspook

3 ай бұрын

James, the price is really reasonable, I mean compared to 7mm Rem or RUM or my STW or my other 10 Weatherby's it is the cheapest of the lot and I buy Weatherby for the Norma Brass and the Accubond Partition scream of the my Rifle with deadly accuracy. I've bought them as cheap as $40/box and no more than $60/box,.. shop around, you can find them pretty cheap. My RUM and STW's are over $100/box.

I have a 25 06 and love it. 117 to 120 grain going around 3000 ft per second will kill anything in the deer and antelope family. Ammo is readily available and half the price of weatherby.

@willrowell3218

3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to have a .25-06. I've always been a fan of the .243 and .270 Winchester, so I can imagine the .25-06 would be pretty awesome. Might have to be my next purchase

@nmelkhunter1

3 жыл бұрын

@@willrowell3218 It does alright on antelope...Just kidding. It's a great choice for open country hunting. If you get one, keep the bullet weights at or above 110 grains so as to avoid excess meat damage.

@nmelkhunter1

3 жыл бұрын

True. It has great MPR and since most shots on deer and antelope are within 300 yards, it is really a better choice.

@Drivapete

3 жыл бұрын

I started reloading when I bought a .257Roy just for the fact that quality hunting ammo is so expensive! Drove me absolutely nuts until i finally settled on a 100gr Barnes TTSX at 3525 fps and 1/2 in groups at 100yds. Never looked back, I've killed scads of deer and elk and have a good supply of "other bullets" to plink with.

@billburgess9100

3 жыл бұрын

Smart choice.

The Ruger #1 is currently being offered in a limited run of .257 Wby with a 28" barrel. That much barrel should wring all the velocity out of that cartridge.

@chrisdolan9515

2 жыл бұрын

Too bad Ruger stuck with a 1-10 twist.

@borkwoof696

2 жыл бұрын

That is a grail gun for sure!

@masontruex5762

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisdolan9515 whats wrong with a 1-10 twist barrel. I consider myself a gun nut but don't really know a lot about the barrel ratios. I've looked at ruger no 1's as well and see good reviews on them.

@masontruex5762

2 жыл бұрын

Also do you know how long ruger will make the 257 weatherby magnum this year?

@chrisdolan9515

2 жыл бұрын

@@masontruex5762 1-10 twist won't stabilize really long for caliber (super high ballistic coefficient) bullets. That's what makes the 6.5 cartridges so appealing, the 1-8 twist which allows for stabilization of super high BC bullets.

My fantasy rifle would be a Mark V Deluxe in one of the Weatherby chamberings, .257, .270, maybe 7mm, with a quality Leupold scope.

@raleighthomas3079

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that’s a rifle I wanted to have since I was a kid. A couple years ago ( at 58 ) the stars aligned just right, and I bought a Mark V Deluxe in .300 Wby. Mag. at a local gun show. Lovingly used in 98% condition, it’s a beautiful rifle! I mounted a Leupold VX-R 3-9x 40 mm, CDS drop turret, side focus, with the Firedot reticle. It will shoot 1/2 to 3/4 MOA groups with Weatherby factory ammo with 3 different bullets, 180 Sierra BT, 180 Trophy Bonded Bearclaw, and 180 Barnes TTSX. Save up and get the Mark V you want as soon as you can. It’s worth every penny!

@genekelley7579

3 жыл бұрын

I just got a Mark V Deluxe with an Stainless Fluted Accumark Barrel in 257 Mag last year (2020). I actually spoke to one of the Weatherby’s when calling Customer Service, regarding barrel break in. (pretty cool they were working the phones)💯 Awesome round, Awesome rifle💯

I've shot many different calibers but my favorite is my .257 Wby. I've taken many deer, usually in the 300-320 range. I've also taken elk using the Nosler Partition bullet. It is much more pleasant to shoot than my 25-06, .270, 6.5 creedmoor or my husband's .260 Remington. I love how flat it shoots. I'ts been my favorite ever since I bought it back in 2003.

@johnkoenig496

7 ай бұрын

HOW can it be more pleasant to shoot than lesser powered cartridges ??? Makes NO sense.

@zebacake4683

6 ай бұрын

@@johnkoenig496 stock design

I had a 25-06 and fell in love with the quarter bore. So I sold it and got the .257 "Bee" and never looked back. :-)

I have had 3 257 wea mags, 2 Weatherbys and 1 Blazer. ALL, shot the 120 grain Nosler Partitions at under 1 inch…. That is with Weatherby Factory Ammunition, not custom handloads.

I'm new to the channel and I must say I am thoroughly enjoying the highly informative content. Sending love across the ocean from England

I'm really starting to value this channel alot. Thank you sir for the fantastic content.

always love listening to this guy

My 257 Wby MK5 RC is my favorite rifle I own...1/2” or better if I do my job with the 100 grain TTSX or TSX... it dropped EVERYTHING I ever pointed it at... 1 and done ✅

I've been hunting with mine for a few years and I love it!

Another great history lesson! Thanks Ron

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I love my .257 Weatherby magnum (and my .340 Weatherby magnum). It is extremely accurate even at distances beyond 1,000 yards. It is my go-to rifle for deer hunting and I would not hesitate to use it for elk hunting at reasonable distances.

RON, MY DAD HAD A 257 MAG. IN WEATHERBY MARK V DELUXE WITH A LEUPOLD. WOW!!!! WHAT A GUN IT WAS. NOTHING, I MEAN NOTHING GOT AWAY AT ANY RANGE OUT WEST!

Just like the 27 just got revamped, once they start investing in 25 cal bullets, it will take off. No diameter is inherently efficient, they just need to put the research in and chamber and twist barrels right. Nailed it Ron.

@mryaj0095

2 жыл бұрын

Blackjack bullets 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

@stevepuyear2738

2 жыл бұрын

AMEN BROTHER. Twist barrels properly and don't leave any caliber behind...lol. The 257cal and 277cal have been treated like bastar× children long enough. Above all LISTEN TO HUNTERS AND SHOOTERS who use the stuff on a daily basis.

@davidandre886

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevepuyear2738 couldn’t say it better myself. I’ll give it 5 years though, the marketing department doesn’t want to overwhelm the masses.

@dg20120

2 жыл бұрын

It worked for the .223. A number of bullet manufacturers now put the recommended twist rate on boxes of bullets.

@davidandre886

2 жыл бұрын

FYI Berger now makes 133 gn hunting bullets for the 25... it’s happening boys

Your video for the 308 win popped up in my recommended. Boy am i glad i clicked it. Your videos are the most enjoyable videos i have seen on cartridges. Thank you.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Travis. glad you enjoy them.

I was going to get a 25-06 but just couldnt find anything that fit my needs without spending 5k on a custom. Found this cartridge and now this is what Im going for. Weatherby makes a great rifle and they are available. THIS is the ticket for me. Thanks for all your vids on the quarter bores that youve done.

Great stuff Ron! Those new projectiles will certainly make the .25 cal a better proposition for the hunter. I experimented a lot with the .257 Roberts and using 48gns of the now obsolete WIN 785 pushing a 117gn nosler ballistic tip through a freebored chamber to allow for extra OAL managed to achieve MOA groups with ease. I often thought of Ackley improved modifications but was happy enough with results in a BSA monarch hunting rifle.

Mr Spomer,a true gentleman.God bless u sir.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly

Well done. Love your insights.

.257 Wby Mark V, shooting 115 gr Ballistic Tips, riding 70 grains of RL25. This is a drop dead accurate, high velocity (3200 f/ps) rig. Not worried about burning the barrel out. I have more than one rifle, and I don't expect to shoot my .257 Wby Magnum to the point that its accuracy will be hampered. It's a great round pushed through a wonderful rifle.

@briangable1037

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you have it down pat! Nice going!

@bustabass9025

3 жыл бұрын

@@briangable1037 Thanks. Guns, hunting, shooting, and handloading have been my passion for over fifty years now. The only thing I enjoy as much is playing bass. Been doing that for over fifty years also. I'm seventy now. The way I got it figured, if I get ten more years outta the deal, or no more...I can count it all good! [Laffin😄]

@p.p.8624

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a clown 🤡 cartridge, like all weatherbys.

@bustabass9025

2 жыл бұрын

@@p.p.8624 That comment doesn't even warrant a response. By the way, looks like no snow again this year for Christmas...[Laffin'😄]

I wish Ron would talk about the great 264 Mg it's a great gun using the Great Barnes bullets They are the best

Great video as always.

Great Information. Thanks Ron

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stealth.

I ran many load develement powder through my 257 wby accumark. I chronograph them all and settled on two powders. Bullet choice with the 257wby is important. I was using 110gr accubond on thin skinned animals that gave me erratic kill results, they tended to whistle strait through, the old sierra spire point lead tipped bullets gave spectacular results on varmint.

Informative as always Ron- another great video

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Ron, we need a mix of your great sayings. How you say "its a barrel burner" in this video is gold.

My 257 wby is my deer/antelope rifle. I love the rifle since my dad custom made it for me, based on a savage long action. I enjoy the sentimentality of a rifle made for me, but my wallet would be way happier if I owned a .25-06 instead. Pre-pandemic: the least expensive,suitable factory ammo produced was 59.99 for a box of 20. Same retailer carries it now for $84.99

@Drivapete

2 жыл бұрын

I can understand your logic, when I bought my 257wby the only factory rounds I could find was HSM loaded with Berger 115 vld hunting bullets. They were superbly accurate, but crap bullets. That's when I started reloading. I also stockpiled components and today have plenty. Most rewarding is when you take an elk or deer with a round you researched and developed by yourself following instructions to the letter and never exceeding the listed capabilities for the cartridge. Reloading has opened up a whole new world in my shooting abilities and understanding of why things work, or dont work. Hopefully the panic buying and price gouging will stop soon and more people will get into hand loading, forcing ammo companies to offer more reasonable prices on components since they're not selling as much ammo. Try it, you'll love it !!

@tasaman

2 жыл бұрын

Handloading is very justified when owning a Weatherby. It can cut the cost to below the cheap 25/06 factory loads.

@Drivapete

2 жыл бұрын

Amen brother!

@robertwolfe2971

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong about collecting all the 25 caliber rifles.

Great show 👍

Great job Ron! Really kicking around getting one of these.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Right on!

Way back when..a 2535remington pump..fast forward 100+yrs. And here we are..

@ssfd739

3 жыл бұрын

The fact that the entire world is back to camping in conversion vans gives me faith that one day our 740 and 760 collections will be cool again. Until then we will just have to stack deer like firewood in our own little niche.

Thanks, Ron!

Love the Blackjack bullets , higher BC than the 140 gn 6.5 caliber Berger bullets and I'm running them at 3368 fps in my.257 wby, with N570 powder. 1/2 moa passed 1000 yards. For PRS , i shoot them in a .25 Sherman SST

Bought one of the Remington 700 CDL-SF with the 1/10 twist barrel. Using the Speer 120 BT/RL-25 powder I'm getting .3-.4 MOA and well under MOA at 600 yards...at 3200 fps... As to "burning out a barrel"...this is a hunting rifle, not a range toy or prairie dog gun.

@Scepticalasfuk

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. How many rounds do you expect to fire in a year? You'd have to hunt 24/7 for many years before burning out the barrel . . . unless, of course, you're using it as a range toy or varmint potter.

@jacqueslefave4296

2 жыл бұрын

Overbore to the point of stupidity, IMO.

@projectredbeard2199

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacqueslefave4296 I would agree except there is nothing else that can really surpass it...

@jacqueslefave4296

2 жыл бұрын

@@projectredbeard2199 The 25-06 accomplishes nearly as much with less powder in a conventional action. I suggest saving the expensive magnum actions for Grizzlies and African giants.

@projectredbeard2199

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacqueslefave4296 not sure you understand the drastic difference in performance from increasing velocity 300-400fps.... 25-06 is a fine cartridge but it's not close to the 257 weatherby.

Thanks for the great info. My Mk V in 257 wtby is an all weather. Only shot factory ammo so far but hopefully when the primer shortage is over I'll be able to try those 133 gr bullets 😊

Try some of those Hammer Bullets in that 257WBY, I'll bet they'll do a number!!!! 😉😉😉 Love my 25-06 Rem and can't wait to get on some deer with it this fall. Good luck and stay safe.

The hydrostatic schok i think is real. The first deer i took with the 257wb with the 87gr factory loads. The deer came out way closer than I expected. Under 50 yards. I shot it in the shoulder. The stomach and first intestines were busted. We flowed the bullet path. It went nowhere near the stomach. Some thing had to bust it and it wasn't the bullet.

@JH-vl6eh

2 жыл бұрын

I have seen first hand the hydrostatic shock and damage a .257 Weatherby will do. Like a mini R.P.G. sometimes, lol. Nasty!! However, the animals never knew what hit them.

@craigleibbrand7761

2 жыл бұрын

The times I have used the 257 Weatherby it look like the animal EXPLODED!

Shot the barrel out of my 25-06 so I had it rebuilt as a full custom in same caliber for my son as a gift when he gets out of the military. Many great memories together with that rifle. Then I bought me a 257 weatherby and discovered that the 25 caliber could be even better. Load em up and take em down, that’s what it does best.

GREAT vid yet again. My dad gave me a German Weatherby Mark V Deluxe .257 for my birthday back in the 70s in Dallas (I was I my 20s). I now live in SW Colorado and really appreciate long range cartridges. But the one elk I shot with the .257 Weatherby Mag was at 38 yards (yes, 38) - an average 5x5 bull. The 117 Sierra totally destroyed the near side lung (after centering a rib on entry), totally severed the heart from all attachment (it literally fell out when field dressing) and mostly destroyed the far side lung. The bullet did not exit. I found about half of the jacket under the hide on the far side - perfect performance/ total energy dump. The bull went about 25 feet and fell over stone dead when it hit the ground. The ONLY reason I went back to the .300 Win Mag (and/or my trusty .270) was that the bull did NOT bleed externally at all and would have left no blood trail had it been necessary to track. It was in a herd of about 60 and traversing a heavily travelled trail, so print tracking would have been impossible. That said, I still believe it is totally adequate for elk (I hunt on a large private ranch) and perhaps the best deer/antelope cartridge out there. With good A-Frame or Partition bullets I think I would have had a bleeding exit wound. One other comment - that Weatherby rifle taught me that having a comb that cants/rakes forward GREATLY reduces felt recoil as it pulls away from the cheek on firing! I've re-stocked a .30-06 with a similar stock and it was amazing to feel the difference. THANKS LOADS for your excellent content, history and future predictions for one of Roy Weatherby's greats!!! Please keep up your excellent work.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ray. And thanks for the bullet performance reports. You are so right about those negative slope combs!

Hmmmm very interesting. Thanks Ron for the video.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome

Love the 257s great video

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gage.

Been waiting for this for awhile. Ultimate deer round. I have been dreaming of a fast twist 257 as long as i have been shooting and hunting.

It's such a great round. So versatile

Love it Ron! Barrels are just a replacement part anyway!

Informative & interesting. Thanks.

The musical introduction is excellent.

I like my 340 Weatherby Mag moving the air out of the way at more than 3000 feet per second and with impact weight behind it.

@edoellien239

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's funny that the 338 Lapua is the greatest thing to come along since sliced bread, but the 340 has been doing the same thing since the 60's.

@aubreysteele4466

2 жыл бұрын

In my opinion (which may not be worth anything), you've made a wise choice. Over my lifetime I've owned 50+/- high-powered rifles. Two have been spectacularly accurate right out the box. One was a Remington 700 VS SF2 in .22-250. I don't know what the best load was because I could have dipped the cases in a bowl of the appropriate powders and it would break less than 1/2 MOA and while I might have been better than average shot, I was never that good. The other rifle was a .340 Weatherby Euromark. I bought it in 1987 mainly because it had a beautiful stock. I asked the seller if he had the test target in the box. He did-it was one hole 3/16" at 100 yards. I snickered and laughed and called BS immediately, saying no factory rifle could do that. It could and did! In my load development, I could push a 225 grain at over 3000 fps with which I was able to duplicate the test target three times and I never had a group over 9/16" with the 3.5-10x Leupold I had mounted. Good scope but hardly bench-rest suitable. Sorry to ramble, but you gave me a flashback with a huge smile. Thanks much.

@solutions2exist556

2 жыл бұрын

@@aubreysteele4466 Great information. When I was a teenager in the 60s, I studied ballistic charts and dreamed of what to buy one day. I thought it would be a Remington 7mm Magnum. Never bought the rifle for 30+ years, but did look occasionally at the charts and knew the real sleeper that most people failed to recognize was the 340 Weatherby Magnum. I was fortunate in finding a brand new Weatherby 340 at a price so low it was next to unbelievable. An older gentleman with money bought the rifle from the dealer and shot it five times. He brought it back because the kick was too much for him. He literally gave the weapon away. I sent it back to Weatherby to install their “boss muzzle device”. The stainless barrel looks great too. I am a left side rifle shooter force to use mostly right handed bolts. I happened to be in the right place at the right time to buy this outstanding weapon. Your comments are appreciated and understood well.

I've been saying this for years. I even reached out to Hornady and Nosler at one point talking with them about higher weight bullets. Glad to see it catching some movement. I'm looking at having one of my rugers re-barreled in 25-06 with a 1/7 twist.

@jackdundon2261

2 жыл бұрын

Hay! I have a 25-06 ruger m77 on lay a way... (pawn shop find) when she comes home in 2 months, If it's barrel is shot out, I want to get a new 1-7 twist... how did yours turn out? I also have a old FN MAUSER 98 action in 30-06, maybe converting her to a 1-7 twist 25-06... thoughts?

You can get a barrel with any twist that you want.

I’ve wondered why the 25-06 and other 25’s weren’t more popular. I believe you answered that question for me. Thank you.

@219garry

2 жыл бұрын

If you hunt and only shoot a few rounds a year they'll last a lifetime.

@kearneydillon4803

2 жыл бұрын

My .25-06 has at least 2600 rounds down the barrel. I cannot find much throat wear at all. I do feel that the 25-06 is pretty much max horsepower for the bore size. The Weatherby in my opinion is definately overbore and certainly can burn barrels in decent time.

@jcraigshelton

2 жыл бұрын

@@kearneydillon4803 well, you know what they say about opinions?

@gab5450

2 жыл бұрын

@@kearneydillon4803 Agreed . This reminds me of an experiment that John Barsness did a few years back . He wondered if the velocity advantage that the .270 Wby had over the .270 Win was due to the 26 inch bbl . So he put a 26 inch bbl on a Mdl 700 action worked up loads for both they were pretty much even . I think it would be safe to bet that the .25-06 vs. .257 Wby would yield the same results

Great info.

Love this channel

Hi Ron great video as always, ever thought about doing a video on the 8*57 mauser, thank you look to hear from you soon.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alex. 8mm Mauser isn't at the top of my list, but I might get to it.

I have a 25-06 in a weatherby vanguard and it is one of my favorite rifles I own. It is one of the best deer - elk killing guns out there. And you mite be thinking” there is no way that a 25-06 can kill a elk” it is called bullet placement. And that goes for every gun out there.

Had my.257 weatherby since 2015 and absolutely love it. Currently reloading it at 62.5 grain of powder and 120 grain speer boat tail bullet. Getting about 2900 ft per second but hit deer like a freight train.

@joeflood7426

Жыл бұрын

How much would you say it costs to reload a 257 weatherby rounds that way? I got one for my birthday almost ten years ago and have never been able to afford it through highschool and college.

@joshuacorle3346

Жыл бұрын

@@joeflood7426 if you know someone who has a reloader it cost me $150 for the die the powder the brass and bullets

High B.C. coupled with higher S.D. makes a great long range hunting marriage. Thank you for taking us back to our earlier years when the .250/3000, .257 Roberts and the .25-06 were pretty popular. Everyone wanted to be the speed king. If I were to live my life again I think I would have been a gunsmith trying to cook up the next exotic and popular round of the day and sell the rifles around them, custom built, of course. I would make sure every buyer would get new barrels only I could turn and button. I wish gun makers like Winchester or Ruger or Marlin offered this service to shooters and hunters who would like to rebarrel their rifles. Ron, I always enjoy your posts. They are fun and informative.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark.

100gr bonded onyx bullet works great for me. Short or long range. In crop fields or power lines, the 257 weatherby is my favorite.

Had a 257 wby made by westley richards years ago. Excellent for smaller deer and antelope, but not for larger stronger antelope. Buffalo with a solid perhaps but not with soft nosed ammunition. The latter tend to break up on impact with bone a bit too quickly and will not penetrate thereafter. Went back to the 300 h&h and never regretted it. The 300 will easily deter a charge of a big cat and one cannot carry 3 rifles without unreliable gun bearers. For long range shots on larger antelope 300h&h or 300win mag if you please. The 257 wby is superb for mountain goat and sheep for obvious reasons. My hunting grounds are now reserve forests and national parks and all hunting has been banned in my country but I’m sure I shall return to the happy hunting grounds sooner rather than later !

I've had my 257 weatherby for over 30 years and use it every year and it isn't near finished.

I love these video's, That you make. So much info, it slows down my upload.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bobby. Glad you're enjoying.

Thanks Ron I own a 257 WM and I consider it the best all around rifle one can own. Stories abound about R. Weatherby bagging a Rhino in Africa. My hunting days are just about over but I still visit the range or the woodland around my house for target shooting.I enjoy your video's and your enthusiasm.

Faster twist rate 25's? Yes, please! I think we're about to see the rebirth of the 25's that have been sitting on the back burner as 6mm and 6.5's have been taking off.

@johnhale9686

3 жыл бұрын

I think if the gun manufactures would make a 257 caliber barrels with a 1 in 7 twist rate and chambers for the longer bullets I think the 257 Rbts. will beat the 6.5 Creedmoor at it's own game

Great video. Always enjoyed watching ya on the hunting channel. Keep up the good work.

I know this is about the 257 Weatherby but i love my grandads 257 Roberts!

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with that!

Such a better channel than Backfire. Thanks for the great video!

@borkwoof696

2 жыл бұрын

Much better!

I cronographed several factory Weatherby 87 gr. Hornady spire point rounds. My 26 inch barrel Remington CDL got 4008, 4011 and 4007 fps. Muzzle blast was so ferocious, it blew my chronograph off the block of wood, I had it setting on. From 17 feet away. I tried to duplicate that factory load. I used 72.2 grs. of IMR 4831. Which is 2 grains over suggested max load. I got 3877, 3882 and 3874 fps with the Hornady 90 gr. GMX bullet. I couldn't come close the factory Weatherby 87 gr. load. My rifle wasn't really accurate with any load I tried. I was disappointed with the accuracy of my Remington, chambered in .257 Wby. It's collecting dust in my gun cabinet.

25-06 for me. 75gn @ 3500 fps drops anything in my country

@russellkeeling9712

3 жыл бұрын

Any firearm producing 1000 foot pounds of energy at 100 yards with drop anything in the country.

My Brother and his neighbor/friend have 25 WSSM rifles. Those are hot rounds. His friend reloads so next time I see them I'll see if they are playing around with these new bullets. BTW: My Brother says after 6 rounds (not rapid fire) the barrel on his 25 WSSM is too warm to hold. Those are factory loads (Federal, I think).

I love the 257 WBY MAG. I have taken antelope and deer here in the U. S. and Coues deer in Sonora Mexico. Longest shot was 625 yards. I shoot the 115 gr. Nosler ballistic tip at 3,400 fps.

.257 roberts is fantastic as well as 257 weatherby. I love both!

The .257 Weatherby has been my go to caliber for over 45 years and has never failed to kill what I shot with it.

Big fan of 257 Roberts, I kinda compare it to 243win with it's loading options from 🐇 to 🦌 Obviously now days 243 has TONS more load data and components but 257 is a very respectable shooter

I just finished up my 257 Weatherby on a current model 70 Supergrade with a 9 twist barrel. I'm getting an average 3274 with an SD of 6 with the 135 Berger. Can't wait to try it out on a coyote.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this one Ron. I have thought about which centerfire cartridge that I would get that would be smaller than my 270 Winchester and the .257 Weatherby Mag keeps coming up as a potential favorite. Or the 25-06 to keep it in the family with my 270. My Dad likes the 257 Roberts, very similar to the .243 that he has. Another one that I have thought about is the .22-250. I have read multiple forums and they like to call the .257 Weatherby Mag the “Death Ray” since it shoots medium light bullets super fast and flat and packs a punch 🤜🏻.

Good job Ron.

Très bon vidéo!

I have a 257 mk v, only have a couple hundred rounds through it. It's so fast and flat that it's like a video game. Instant hits to 350 or so yards, put the crosshairs on the target and it's there. I'm going to develop some new loads now. Great video. Thank you.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

Long time 257 Wby fan here. They sure punch way above their weight class. I have taken moose, mule deer and white tails along with coyotes with my Vanguard Lazerguard. Great long range cartridge and NEVER had any animal move more than a step or two once hit in the right spot. Never thought I needed a heavier bullet ( my pet load has ELDX 110 grain bullets) but I will watch what happens. Thanks Ron and howdy from Saskatchewan!

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Howdy Tac Man. Sask. Land of the giant whitetails. And mule deer. At least used to be. How now?

@tacman2893

3 жыл бұрын

@@RonSpomerOutdoors Still is my friend! Big white tails are on the menu here for sure. And some of the best farmland moose you will have ever seen. Unbelievably tasty! Maybe a trip in the future? 👍

Thanks for a good video

Great round and I reload for it a fair bit. The 10 twist barrels will support up to 120gr bullets as Ron has said. However, be wary of any older 257 that may have a 12 twist barrel. They will not shoot anything over a 100ish grain bullet accurately. The Weatherby 117gr factory ammo uses a 117gr Hornady round nose Interlock, which due to its shape, will stabilize in a 12 twist. 120gr Noslers and the like will not, yielding 3 shot groups over 12" at 100 yards. The reload we settled on for this old 257 with a 12 twist was pretty much a carbon copy of the 117gr factory loading, and shoots consistent 3/4" 3 shot groups.

My choices were the 257 weatherby or the 264 Winchester magnum. I went with the 264. But the 257 is a very interesting round.

Just took possession of my new Schilen stainless 26” barrel in 257 Weatherby. This one has a 1-9” twist. I have a brand new Savage 116 FCSS in 338 Win Mag that is to be the recipient of this barrel. Should be fun.

I've always loved my 25-06 even though most of my range buddies have never heard of it.

@kevinkelley3657

3 жыл бұрын

25-06 was not obscure at all before the wsm and wssm calibers showed up. I think the 30-06 case is just right for a whole lot of great cartridges, as is the 308 win. case.

@russellkeeling9712

3 жыл бұрын

I like all offshoots or the 06 but I went the other way to a 35 cal. in the 35 Whelen.

@mdd1963

2 жыл бұрын

One would have to be pretty much a 'rifle newbie' to have not heard of the .25-06!

@af7119

2 жыл бұрын

@@mdd1963 exactly. These guys i shoot with have only heard of 9mm, .223 and .308

Man, whoever brought out the 6.5s back in the late 1800s was on to something. Long skinny bullets, way ahead of his time.