$63,900 before markups. Quick math: $6,400 down (10%) + tax and interest (7.64) 60 Months Payment: $1260 @12.5% of take home pay you should be earning $157,500 annually to be looking at this car (assuming the appropriate taxes are coming out of your paycheck). National average wage (US Census): $63795. Percentage making $150k annually: approx. 8.3% 5 Year price increase Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro: 2019 MSRP: $42,960 2024 MSRP: $63,900 49% increase Wage growth 2019-2024: 1.7% (Source: US Treasury) These price increases far outpace inflation and wage growth. Toyota is targeting 8% of total market. Or people who just want to act fiscally irresponsible.

@bradcomis1066

Ай бұрын

Nice statistical break down here.

@justincase9638

Ай бұрын

Well that about sums it up... so Top 8%, Okay lets go home.

@wydryfly

Ай бұрын

Great Reality check! Most likely, the people who need to read this, don't , and they will happily walk out of the Toyota dealership forever in irreversible debt.

@mikeluckey2073

Ай бұрын

These new cars cost so much h now that your down payment basically covers the tax and licensing. So you're financing the entire cost of the vehicle.

@jesusnavarrete6317

29 күн бұрын

I'm paying that sht cash or not at all. But 70k is too much. So sticking with my 3rd Gen for a while

47.5k for a loaded Pro4x. 55 for a Raptor. And then this thing at around 65k?! What on earth is Toyota thinking!?

@EveryPriceGougingStealership

Ай бұрын

Yet I can't keep any of these in stock. People love this thing, things sell for what people are willing to pay for them. And I'm more than happy to take it from them, no more diving into invoice and hold back and pack anymore.

@Ichibuns

Ай бұрын

@@EveryPriceGougingStealership The temporary jump in sales because of fad buyers. Typical for a lot of newer trucks.

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

First off your pro4x is a trd offroad level trim. Nissan doesnt offer anything else offtoad worthy. A trd offroad can be had for mid 40s just like the pro4x which is ancient tech from 2005. Why pay almost 50k for an old truck? Nope. The frontier is at most a 40k truck not 47.5k

@MeliorIlle

Ай бұрын

Frontier is a great truck but insanely overpriced.

@sang8720

Ай бұрын

Lmk if you can find a 55k Ranger raptor. They are selling for 60-70k

$63k, that's F-250 XLT Tremor pricing. For as much as all the mid size trucks are getting, I'm just going full size. The cost advantage of mid size trucks is gone.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

An F250 is a lot more truck but not everyone is looking for so much truck. -Travis

@kenkozawa9810

Ай бұрын

Relax, it is virtually top trim dude, I'm sure there are folks out there that want a full loaded taco...starts at 31 k, still well below average new car purchase price..you can price out a lariat maverick to well above $42 k, think that is even more criminal!

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

The trailhunter and trd pro are not work trucks. These are recreation and low volume. Frankly these only make sense to people who offroad and overland which is only like 10% of buyers. 90% are mall crawlers

@briancorreia2923

Ай бұрын

I think that is the reason they were pulled off the market. Now they are back and the conundrum is even more pronounced.

@prefontaine2790

14 күн бұрын

The base models start at $31k. This is a fully loaded off-road model, so of course it costs more. And the TRD off-road is only $42k so imo that's a more appealing option for off-roaders.

Toyota is pissing me off, $63K+ taxes is criminal for a non full size truck. Toyota pricing out 95% of Americans. My brother's 2009 Tundra Limited 4wd was $36K brand new. No way inflation is causing all of this price madness.

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

That limited 4wd is migrade. So prices cant compare. You need to look at trd pro tundra prices. The current tundra is 80k for a PRO

@sociopathmercenary

Ай бұрын

You can't blame Toyota for charging what people will pay. If they don't sell, prices come down

These trucks are going to price themselves out of the market. I'm sorry, but I'm not paying over $60k for a Tacoma.

@naveenthemachine

Ай бұрын

Good choice. I knew Toyota would screw this up😂and indeed they did.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

You don't have to, that's what the lower trims are for. -Travis

@naveenthemachine

Ай бұрын

@@AAutoBuyersGuide but those lower trims are already overpriced and will have markups. So you’re not really going to win

@deandollahite4779

Ай бұрын

You already know dealers are going to make them up astronomically 😂

@EveryPriceGougingStealership

Ай бұрын

Yet there are plenty who still do. I haven't sold any model without around 10k markup. This is about the mark up master race, not some sticker price peasants.

Alex and Travis, The more I look at those powerful Tacoma drivetrains paired with small, 'lifestyle' beds, the more I wish for the return of the T100. 😉

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

Ah, but it will just be a wish unless you want to pay for some custom badging. -Travis

@rightlanehog3151

Ай бұрын

@@AAutoBuyersGuide Travis, Did you get up at 4 AM just to answer our comments?

For a $63K midsize truck, the Trailhunter MUST have had "luxuries" such as rear aircon vents and a rear armrest standard 🙃

@ $65k, Toyota is smoking crack.

@sang8720

Ай бұрын

What about 65k for a Ford? 😂

@naveenthemachine

29 күн бұрын

@@sang8720that’s different. The Ranger is more competitive than the taco and it has a lot more power and performance

There is absolutely NO WAY, Toyota or not, that this type of hybrid drivetrain is ever going to be as durable as the old 3.5 or the 4.0 V6 that's in the older Toyota trucks and SUVs. I'm sure there are enough suckers out there to buy these things at 65k a pop, but I won't be one of them.

'In a pinch we can make it work'? Your feet are at a 90 degree angle to your leg! :-)

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

Yep, I was in a pinch 😆 -Travis

“Finally, a midsize hybrid truck”. - said no one ever.

@cleverja

Ай бұрын

That's what I thought when I saw the title LMAO!

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

as someone with a California flag on for you profile pic where fuel is $1-2 more expensive than everywhere else i think many people would be interested in hybird. Especially that it gives you over 100hp more than the old 2.7L with no fuel economy penalty

When they stop selling 80% of the trucks they produce, then price cuts will be considered. Until then, you are no longer the target market if you consider this expensive yet the target market is big enough that you simply no longer matter to manufacturers. We live in a society where people take out loans and “overpay” for everything, be it houses, vehicles, vacations, food, or phones. That drives inflation and increasing prices, and no amount of complaints will alter that as long as people continue to pay those prices.

@kjay5056

Ай бұрын

100% correct

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

the base is $31k only $2k more than a camry

As someone 6’5” I hated the toboggan seating position of the previous gen Tacoma. This one is better, but the seats feel very narrow for my frame. Don’t have this issue with the Frontier or any American brand.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

The new TRD PRO seat is even tighter. -Travis

@paul5683

Ай бұрын

That seems to be the case with a lot of vehicles. I feel like half of my left butt cheek is hanging over the edge of most of these cars.

@Twominutedevotions

Ай бұрын

Humans are getting bigger. MAKE TRUCKS AND SUVS FOR US PLEASE. For me, I just bought a Camry and it fits perfectly in every way including and especially legroom. I could not find a Toyota or Honda hybrid SUV that would be comfortable to drive. The Camry was the best fit by a mile.

@salvadorgarcia3615

Ай бұрын

@@Twominutedevotions what do you mean bigger ?

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

Funny cause the frontier seat is more narrow and shorter thigh support

Add the dealer markups and you’re in financial hell.

@Passions

7 күн бұрын

Welcome to 10 year payment plans

Might as well put the MSRP at $1 million dollars. $64k is ridiculous.

As far as running out of battery, this will only happen if you have the pedal to the floor. In all other conditions, the engine is able to deliver all the power needed and still recharge the battery (at the cost of mpg). Even when towing up a steep hill, the engine is generally powerful enough to maintain speed (once that speed is reached) at the max tow rating without the use of the motor. I can’t think of a situation outside of racing where there will not be enough battery for the full time you floor it (generally less then 30 seconds), and enough time before flooring it again (even a minute will return a lot of energy to the battery) for the engine to recharge enough battery for the next time you floor it. In normal drive mode, when it cycles the battery between charge and discharge, it always saves a buffer of energy for at least 30 seconds of flooring it to give you that extra power on demand even while the battery is at the lowest point in it’s normal drive mode cycle.

$65K puts this awfully close to something like a Rivian R1T...

@Ichibuns

Ай бұрын

Yes, but weird comparison?

Nice job Alex & Travis.

"A little spendy"....man...that feels like an understatement.

I sat in a new Ranger at the New York International Auto Show. Liked it a lot more than the GM twins. Would have liked to have sat in this truck and a Frontier for further comparison.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

I'm sure they'll be there next year. The Ranger has a nice interior but the comfort difference between driver and front passenger seats is substantial. -Travis

@LongIslandMopars

Ай бұрын

@@AAutoBuyersGuide Thanks, Travis. I only sat in the driver's seat. My wife thanks you.

LMAO when the dude is sitting in the back seat with his foot turned 75 degrees... A lot of features, but it comes with a ridiculous price point. We'll see what the smaller Toyota truck looks like.

@springertube

Ай бұрын

And blaring that it's missing a couple key features but it must have anywhere near that price point, but frankly much less as well.

Everyone seems to say that it's cool you can take out the front speaker. I'm hoping to understand why someday.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

Not everyone one is going to but it's convenient to have a portable Bluetooth speaker at hand. Especially if you're doing outdoor activities and want some tunes. -Travis

@tomgroth2898

Ай бұрын

How is that going to hold up baking in the sun. Is it covered under warranty?

@Sean-km7ht

Ай бұрын

That heat cycle from sitting in a hot car is going to destroy the battery in that speaker, I'm just hoping they don't start exploding in parked vehicles. Personally, I think it's a gimmick and a risk

@vicariousity3046

Ай бұрын

@@Sean-km7ht lol yes the notorious "exploding grenade bluetooth speaker" issue that nobody has ever experienced in the technology's 25 year history

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

It’s covered in the bumper to bumper warranty

I'm a Toyota fan but even the TRD Off Road pricing is right in line with basic full size 1/2 ton trucks. Most of the Tacoma lineup is overpriced!

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

Bring facts. Show everyone a new half ton with the same configuration as the tacoma and show us the prices side by side

@KPHVAC

Ай бұрын

@@beexiong2995 Jump on Auto trader and search for new 4x4 Ford F-150's. In a 500 mile radius of my house there are 147 New STX and XLT F-150 Crew Cab 4x4's for under $55,000. There are Silverado's, Tundra's, and RAM's as well. You might get less features or options compared to a Tacoma. I'm a Toyota fan, and very well might go for a new Tacoma TRD Off-road. I'm also going to look at the 1/2 ton options because they are so close in price.

@KPHVAC

Ай бұрын

​@@beexiong2995 I don't think my last reply posted. Do your own search on Auto Trader. In a 500 mile radius of my house there are 147 4x4 Crew Cab F-150's for under $55,000. All STX and XLT trims. I'm sure the features are different but it's still about the same price as a Tacoma TRD Off-road. I still might wind up with a Tacoma since I'm a Toyota fan.

@Weinzierl1973

Ай бұрын

That doesn't make logical sense.... Show trim for trim factual data to support that claim. Almost everything I'm seeing says $15-25K more on full size than mid size across the board.

@KPHVAC

Ай бұрын

I think KZread keeps deleting my reply. I searched a 500 mile radius on one of the big car websites. I found 147 new 4x4 STX and XLT F-150's for $55,000 or less. I'm sure they don't have the same features but there are hundreds of 1/2 ton trucks in that price range. It's worth cross shopping. I've always been a fan of Toyota and Honda reliability. I'm just saying for a TRD Off Road or higher trim, you could buy a basic 1/2 ton.

for users that go off-road and use more than one interface (ipads, cameras, another phone), the out of the way USB makes sense.

Is the engine mounted longitudinally or transversely? The hybrid max system is certainly different for RWD platforms than transversely mounted FWD platforms like the Crown lineup. Is the smoothness related to this? Just curious. Thanks for the typically great review!

@springertube

Ай бұрын

Body on frame, always longitudinal

@jsfbay1

Ай бұрын

@@springertube I assumed that was the case, but i was trying to get Alex or Travis to consider whether the difference in smoothness between one hybrid system and another was the configuration of the system. I know that Alex has said (on more than one occasion) that he doesn't think the Hybrid Max system in the Toyota Grand Highlander and Lexus TX is all that smooth. So I was wondering if it's due to the different hardware employed when mounted transversely vs longitudinally.

@springertube

Ай бұрын

@@jsfbay1 👍👍

23 mpg, horrible for the added complexity of the hybrid. ICE is maxed out technically. Give us a PHEV and maybe it would make sense, but this is a hard pass.

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

The standard gas turbo engine is getting 24 mpg by several youtubers. The hybrid will outdo that in real world

@kjay5056

Ай бұрын

@@beexiong2995 How do you know this? Is there a link?

@springertube

Ай бұрын

My guess is that in this case, the hybrid is largely there for you to forget about the V6, and (they figure) it does a reasonably admirable job of accomplishing meeting emissions and also have power. It's not there for MPG to the degree most hybrid systems are thought of for sure.

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

my 2020 with the 2.7L gets 19-21mpg average with a wimpy 160hp, the new tacoma hybrid has double the hp nearly triple the tq with a 2-4mpg improvement and 4x4. That is a huge improvement imo

The 1990 Toyota pickup had an MSRP of $7,998. Adjusted for inflation, that's about $16K today. Yes, this was a single cab and 2WD, but why are we even imagining paying 4 to 5 times this for two more doors with a miserable backseat, and a 4WD system that would have been a $1500 dollar add on. All these car manufacturers are going to go belly up making vehicles that average people cannot afford. Yes you will have lots of first year buyers that get the new stuff just for show, BUT after the hype dies its going be last years Tacoma.

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

the 1990 toyota pickup was also a compact truck, the new tacoma is nearly the size of a 90s f150. I know cause i have a 2020 tacoma parked next to a 95 f150 in my driveway. In 1990 you could buy an average house for under $100k still, now it is $500k. That inflation calculator you are using didn't adjust for wage decrease in relation to purchase power.

@bradcomis1066

Ай бұрын

@@JD-yx7be Consider wage inflation generally hasn't kept up with general inflation afaik. So, relative to incomes this new Taco is even more expensive than what the inflation calc indicates.

@donaldcallahan7412

25 күн бұрын

@@JD-yx7be sorry it was off the cuff response with data from Newspaper article in online newspaper, they did the story and the calculation for the adjusted inflation.

Even a base model Tacoma is "spendy".

Already seeing discounts on 4g Tacomas. Not sure how the hybrid will sell well. Maybe initially for early adopters with deep pockets but will probably slow after that. Also betting a few years the hybrid will be only engine option as emissions clamp down further.

I don't think there are many people who are truck people, ever really wanted a hybrid truck. But I'll let the sales numbers speak for themselves.

Wish you guys would give the payload. Particularly for this "overlander".

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

1240 i think. Tfl already shared it

Are you actually feeling the battery go flat with regularity or is this all just hypotheticals? You've mentioned it every time you've reviewed one of these 1 motor hybrids, but I'm struggling to imagine a scenario where the engine power alone doesn't have some headroom -- in a sustained use case -- to push some of that to the battery. Even towing 70mph sustained up a long hill, you aren't likely asking for the full 278hp that the engine itself can provide. Getting to 70mph towing is where you are asking for that max power which is probably 20 seconds of full gas.

I’ve sat in both the Ranger and new Tacoma and the back seat is not comparable. The Ranger is substantially larger and has a center armrest.

@drumtwo4seven

Ай бұрын

NO 6' BED OPTION IN THE RANGER, BED IS SLIGHTLY UNDER 5' NOT UTILITARIAN, MORE SOCCER ⚽ MOM SUV THAN A TRUCK ---RANGER--- IN PHILIPPINES THEY OFFER 2 DOOR 6' BED REAR DOORS OPEN AS WELL IF THAT WAS AVAILABLE HERE ID BUY ONE

@drumtwo4seven

Ай бұрын

TACOMA SR5 4X4 6 FOOT BED $40,865 ID BUY THAT INSTEAD OF A FORD RANGER

@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw

Ай бұрын

4' between the wheel wells in the ranger not so with the taco

I like how Toyota is trying to rebrand the hybrid powertrain for performance use. Electricity isn't just for mpg but also Ft LBs(torque). Toyota really knows how to make me want more cars.

Everything in the world are over prices including this Taco 😮

Lets celebrate the removal of the one area Toyota had a monopoly on, reliability! 🎉🎉

23 mpg combined for an off road truck with 33” tires? That’s pretty darn good! 😅 I’m really starting to think this or the 4Runner might replace my F150….

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

All things considered it's not anywhere near bad fuel economy, it would just be nice to get a little more out of it. -Travis

@kieransteele7223

Ай бұрын

@@AAutoBuyersGuide definitely, if it was closer to 30mpg it would be hands down the best option. For now, I find myself wanting to get better fuel economy than my 2015 F150 5.0 (about 15 average) but also wanting something with at least a 5.5’ bed, 1300 lbs of payload, and the ability to tow over 6K lbs. given that I do more city driving than highway, I think my options are coming down to: F150 PB (reliability concern is majors though), Silverado 3.0 Diesel, new Tacoma hybrid (6’ bed), or even the me 4Runner/Land Cruiser since I could still tow a trailer even without the bed. If you have another idea let me know!Probably need to keep it under 55K but I usually buy a few years used anyway.(Keep in mind I do have to fit 2 forward facing car seats in the back seat, luckily the youngest will be out of the rear facing before I buy 😅)

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

Compare to the last gen tacoma 33s will get you 15 mpg

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

@@kieransteele7223 The f150 powerboost hybrid has 430hp and gets over 20mpg in real world driving

It seems to me that the side-of-screen USB port is for the passenger, not the driver. Your comments concerning that seemed odd to me. Am I missing something?

@springertube

Ай бұрын

There's a thing called ergonomic design. There is always a more central location that could work for both. His comments weren't odd regarding that, the location is most definitely.

@cablebrain9691

Ай бұрын

@@springertube Uhmm……except that there are also USB outlets centrally located at the top of the center console. There’s a thing called ergonomics? Who knew!

@springertube

Ай бұрын

@@cablebrain9691 are you talking about the charge only ones he pointed out?

@Sean-km7ht

Ай бұрын

The other USB ports down low are charge-only, not data. Most of the time, the driver wants to use their own phone for Android Auto or Carplay. While it does support both wirelessly, plugging in can have less issues, so a lot of people still prefer it.

@cablebrain9691

Ай бұрын

@@springertube and @Sean-km7ht I guess if in the specific cases where one is unable (for whatever reason) to use the charging mat and/or the wireless functionality of Android Auto/Apple CarPlay, a more central location would be convenient. But this is a minor niggle, as one could easily and neatly attach a color coordinated USB extension down toward the center console. No matter what, if using a wire, the wire will be exposed to some extent. It certainly wouldn’t be draped in the unseemly manner which they have it, as the driver would surely place their phone in the console. If wishing to use the port directly, as a less permanent option, and locating the side port was an issue, a small dot on the bezel would solve that. Additionally, while it looked as though the port is placed in a very difficult to reach location, it really isn’t, although the wide-angle lens of the camera made it appear otherwise. I’m not asserting that Toyota chose the best location, but only that Alex and his buddy focused on it a bit too much, making much ado about nothing.

Does the Trailhunter have a sunroof option? For $63k, it should be standard!!! Also for this price, I'd rather get a used Rivian R1T.

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

Yes it does.

For reference how tall is Travis? I know Alex has mentioned he is 6ft. Just wanted to have some reference during the backseat portion of the video.

No logic on moving the FRONT seat all the way back and trying to sit behind it. Just because it CAN go back that far does not mean anyone with common sense would and then sit behind it lol

I literally drive that road for work on some days, no way you were out here!!

Cars and trucks are now so expensive that traditional luxury vehicles feel more approachable.

Crazy expensive. Clearly I am not the target customer as I can’t afford that. I feel like the pricing on these new gen mid size trucks have resulted in essentially full size truck prices and no alternative/options for what mid size trucks use to offer buyers.

MPG at 23 miles 😢😢 starts at 6:45

Really surprised on the mediocre performance and design. Not for me.

Southern Ca. here and I'm surrounded every day by jeeps with $20k in aftermarket products. I often see jeeps with modifications that equal the purchase price of this tacoma by themselves. The tacomas as an entire line have dramatically increased in price and I would have a hard time buying a new tacoma of any trim. This trail hunter and the trd pro will always be cost prohibitive but then I don't make the $157K @Sansoolan figured as the least annual salary needed to afford them. I still want a new regular cab tundra and have been looking for a clean used one with 4x4 and the 5.7L.

Ford and GM and Jeep definitely powering ahead in the midsize market as is Honda actually. Obviously the big winner has been the Ford Maverick as everyone keeps downsizing to the maximum extent possible. US economy definitely heading for a crash leaving aside the one that has already occurred in 2022 and is still ongoing and is now clearly impacting the pure play BEV space. Hybrids have been huge sellers especially for Toyota and Honda so how this plays out over time no small matter absolutely.

Only the Toyota fanboys will pay over $60k for a 🌮. That’s ridiculous. The Raptor is priced much better

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

make it back in resale and reliability. I own two fords and a Toyota. I have owned gen 1,2,3 tacoma and my dad owned the og toyota pickup in the 80s. They really hold their valve no matter if it is 5 years or 20 years old.

@garrettw99

Ай бұрын

@@JD-yx7bethat might be true if reliability is as good as the previous gens

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

@@garrettw99 the second gen was worse then my first gen, had to replace rear diff and had fuel injector leaks, and 2 alternators. The first gen never has been to the shop outside routine maintenance. my third gen isn't old enough to say yet but has the worst shifting transmission out of them all constantly shifting from 5th to 6th, i will just put it in manual mode fixed on 5th going on the highway. My 3rd gen has been in 4 fenders benders (2 from dad 2 from sister) so resale is down the drain on that one.

The angular, angry styling is going to look dated fast.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

Possibly. -Travis

@naveenthemachine

Ай бұрын

Too late. It’s already outdated

Alex I'll take the Ranger V6 over any kind of better looking fake interior trim of the Tacoma...

Tacoma for the price of a decently loaded 1/2 ton or barebones 3/4 ton Tremor? Good luck, you effectively priced out 80% of your customers.

I'm looking forward to see how these do in the long run, but I think it's a shame we're not going to get a sub 20k workhorse like the IMV 0 in North America.

@andresmartinez3390

Ай бұрын

I believe that is because cafe. The US needs to change that.

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

a nissan versa is $20k now, you will never see a truck that cheap unless they import those Indian tok toks

I like the concept, but like all new vehicles, I can't say I like the price, enough so that I'm not buying anything. However I wouldn't buy the Ford to save any money even if I had needed a truck. Quality and reliability are high on my list, Ford, RAM, Chevy don't really come with quality standard or optional.

23 mpg? I can’t believe I waited for this over getting the Rivian R1T. Rivian destroys it in every possible measurable way. Thanks for this video- selling my 2007 6sp manual FJ Cruiser and getting a Rivian. Voodoo blue if anyone is interested. Sick to death of Toyota’s poor efficiency.

That back seat has embarrassingly small legroom. My 1st Gen has a much better second row. What are they thinking with shrinking interiors and higher prices?

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

No it doesnt lol. I have had both and the 1st gen rear seats are laughable

It’s very cool, but 63k is a lot. You can get near top-trim full size pickups like an F150 King Ranch or Toyota’s own Tundra for that amount. Unless you really plan to go offroad/overland and don’t want to make a build yourself, this truck just makes zero sense even if it looks cool.

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

Wrong. A trd pro tundra is 80k. A tundra capstone is 80k. About 20k more than the top trim taco

@KNRS927

Ай бұрын

@@beexiong2995 a Tundra limited is about 60k, and seeing some on autotrader for 55k. A platinum is about 65-70k, and seeing them on autotrader for around 60-65k so similar range. I also didn’t mention the Silverado or ram where you can get thousands and thousands in incentives and that’ll eat into the price. Also, a Colorado ZR2 or Z71 aren’t this pricey. Finally, the truck that many consider the budget Tacoma, aka the Nissan Frontier, is way cheaper in Pro-4x form. 63k is way pricey.

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

The nissan will have no resale, compare a 5,10,20 year old tacoma to any nissan.

Trd pro being 10k more than ranger raptor is surprising, but also I still don’t understand why the tundra offers 2way and 4 way lumbar where the Tacoma is just 4 way lumbar

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

The Raptor pricing is the more surprising, especially considering other high trim level mid size trucks. -Travis

I think I prefer the Ranger Raptor- which is is crazy to me to say as I’ve always liked Tacomas. I just think Ford has put together a more compelling overall package.

I'm getting the new 2025 Ford Maverick Grabber with 3.2 turbo that was just announced!!!!

You guys are talking about Tacomas hybrids ONLY TRD-PRO and TRIALHUNTER. but hybrid comes on TRD-sport and TRD-off-road.

Tacoma sales are down 60%. I wonder how many Trail Hunter, and Pros, they will sell?

Toyota said the engine will always charge the battery so you wont run out of juice and the output is constant. It wont lose torque because the battery is low

Those dual color fogs are nice. I prefer yellow fogs myself Might as well stop by Julian and pick up their famous apple pie

When's the review of that excavator in the background dropping? 😂

224 inches is hard to argue is mid size. That’s old Tundra size. Definitely wouldn’t fit in my garage. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

"Mid Size" is definitely relative. -Traviz

Love those wheels, but hate that snorkel.

@springertube

Ай бұрын

And, unless the accessory brace is optional like it should be, many people will be jettisoning that so they can put camper shells on, especially if overlanding.

At this point, why doesn't every truck on sale have a full-time 4wd system standard?

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

Mostly because it's not necessary. -Travis

Lexus GX550 Trail Plus is still taking my breath away for not much more money.

Have you guys thought that the plug on the side may be easier for the passenger to use to charge their phone?

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

It could but it's not intended for the passenger, it's the port for Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. -Travis

@Crolis

Ай бұрын

@@AAutoBuyersGuide Ok, now that I wasn't aware of. I would have thought one of the two ports next to the wireless charging pad would be used for corded AA or CP. I originally thought that the side port was to help power windshield or dash mounted accessories.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

Sadly no. Strange, huh?

I was interested in this until those crazy prices 😄

"Finally?" Who was asking for a hybrid tacoma?

Wow, $62K for a base Trailhunter! I'll rather get a a Ford F-150 PowerBoost (hybrid)

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

There is no base trailhunter 😂. Didnt see them say oh theres a base trailhunter or you can get the trailhunter plus 😂

Travis, cannot moves in the back hehehe, not too much space obviously

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I will definitely agree that Ford reliability is not as good as Toyota, but I would not compare "first year reliability" with the Tacoma hybrid compared to the Ranger Raptor. The motor in the Raptor has been out for years in the Explorer ST and Bronco Raptor. The Tacoma hybrid is brand new and unproven.

$70K and you don’t get rear vents! Same as the subcompact vehicle segment. 😂

The plug in location on the radio for your cell phone is horrible!!

@Crolis

Ай бұрын

I've noticed that location on other Toyota vehicles and I while I haven't read any official documentation concerning it, it seems like that port is intended for windshield/dash mounted accessories like dashcams, radar detectors, and other items that could benefit from being powered by a short USB cable without having a cable snaking all the way to the bottom of the console.

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

Its not a driver side plug. Its for passenger only. The whole carplay android auto is wireless

@springertube

Ай бұрын

​@@beexiong2995could have centered it for both forever and passenger

I’ll buy for 10k maybe

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

a high mileage 2nd gen is that much

Nice truck for those who need something like this. I’ll stick with the non-off road version :)

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

So true. Not everyone needs a trailhunter or trd pro to go mall crawling.

I disagree on the right balance for the hybrid. The insanity of building all that complexity for more horsepower, to rocket a 5,500lb vehicle at insane velocities... is just a huge miss. The goal of hybrid and electric is to improve efficiency of mobility. I'm sure a boat load of people would like a midsized truck with 32+ MPG, then you have a commuter vehicle. If you wanted to make a more powerful midsized-truck just bring back the darn 8 Cylinder from the Tundra - people love that engine, and I bet it would get about the same gas milage or a few less mpg.

Whos high? The ones setting these prices, or the ones paying them?

@kjay5056

Ай бұрын

The fools paying the price!!!

I think truck prices are insane, probably 60k for this. Better to just buy a used Land Cruiser or a Lexus that will be more reliable in the long run. Also what happened to the styling? It looks very childish, it’s like someone took a hilux and started adding things to it until it started looking like a transformer.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

The Trailhunter has a lot of accessories as standard but if you want a "cleaner" truck the other Tacoma trims come with less goodies. -Travis

@thomaswater6608

Ай бұрын

Which year you are saying LC or Lexus . You will be paying 40-45k for a used car.

Still waiting for a plug-in truck to come to the United States

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

The race is still on. -Travis

@thomaswater6608

Ай бұрын

Yes same here. PHEV Tacoma will be game changer

@spenceralridge4958

Ай бұрын

RamCharger, next year…

@Richey24

Ай бұрын

@@spenceralridge4958 an affordable one 😂 I'm sure that thing is gonna be 80k +

If you pick some 3rd Gen's and price them on Carvana I bet the price will keep creeping up.

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

If you check 2nd gen tacoma prices they are higher than 3rd gen prices

6ft bed! Take that 4ft 11inch Ranger. Also great for slowing up and speeding down and riding side saddle 😂

If you’re riding sidesaddle the driver is not going to appreciate your legs and feet in his lap.

You know what would have been even nicer about that logo? Real compass!!!

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

Like a built in, functional compass? -Travis

@Vladb0000

Ай бұрын

@AAutoBuyersGuide Yes sir!

Crazy how much the prices on this picks up gone up since 2019! First it was the supply chain issue with Covid, well why the hell is the reason now? 60k and up in a pick up? Really? Just like how things have slowed on EVs and prices are dropping, the same will happen here. I’d much rather buy a 2019 Toyota truck/suv, then pay these prices with not much fuel benefits.

So it’s overpriced cramped and not that good to drive? And guaranteed markups? A flat out nope on this one Toyota to no one’s surprise screwed up as usual with this just like nearly every single new model they’ve released. Forget about the Toyota mythical instant reliability. You’re just not gonna get it. Taking a complex drivetrain and gluing a Toyota logo doesn’t equate to instant quality and reliability. That’s just not reality. The Colorado, canyon, and ranger already sound like way better options and this isnt even out yet

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

toyota's hybrids are incredibly reliable many 2nd gen prius (2003-2009) still on the road today with their original battery. People act like engineers can't improve something over the decades. Early fuel injection wasn't that good either yet they have become extremely reliable

@normanli7085

Ай бұрын

yet, there aren't even any optional configurations that you can get compared to the tacoma. plus, you don't buy a midsized truck for space. u buy it to go off road or overlapping. u really think the ford and gm turbo 4s are much better than toyotas huh

My girlfriend used to have an enormous rack as well

do review on sr plz

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

We did. -Travis kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y3aY2c2rfqrggMo.htmlsi=jtOeHbq4sqSgriwe

@drivesanoldcar

Ай бұрын

@@AAutoBuyersGuide right and I did see it. does it have a timing chain? rewatching now

23 mpg combined, that's about the same as an SR5 4X4 278hp 317fpt Not worth the extra money if fuel economy is the same or less

@beexiong2995

Ай бұрын

That sr5 doesnt have steel bumpers, rock sliders, 33 inch tires, extra 500lbs weight from the hyrbid.. get a trd sport hybrid will have better mpg. Also the 4x4 is 20 mpg combined not 23

Maybe great. But whose got 60k for a 4 turbo cylinder ?

This just reinforces in my mind that Toyota has been drinking their own Kool Aid. Way overpriced for a mid-size truck with a cramped interior and questionable design. If I can't fit my foot in the footwell of a truck, they aren't doing it right. Heck, my size 11 feet had no problems with a Chevy Luv back in the 1980s, or a Ford Ranger in the 1990s; but Toyota (and GM for that matter) can't make a reasonable footwell? There's a reason I've always pronounced Toyota's 'performance' trim TURD.

You will not find a Trailhunter right now for less than $72k!

@AAutoBuyersGuide

7 күн бұрын

Then I would wait. -Travis

Not sure a hybrid drivetrain is particularly valuable to a Tacoma user compared to the venerable 4 or 6. The mildly better performance and fuel economy are largely offset by higher price, complexity and the likely shorter operational lifetimes of the very expensive ABS, power supply and traction battery components. They are excellent until a giant bill presents itself late in the vehicle life. Having three shorter lifetime components in addition to the normal ICE compenents, increases the liklehood of earlier decommissioning. Plus, somehow each modest new vehicle update seems to result is massive increases in price. Way out of proportion to any benefit provided. These large price increases in assault the constitution of consumers continuously, garnering resentment and resistance among the buying public. After 30 years of buying new vehicles. It is unlikely that I will ever buy another. Painful prices and the resultant depreciation make a new car purchase unworkable.

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

abs is incredibly reliable my 95 f150 and 96 f250 still have their original, even if they fail i would go the junk yard and get another. Many Volvo's who were one of the first to make them standard are still on their originals 40 years later. I know some early abs units in GM vehicles had a high failure rate but never really heard of many problems in the last 20 years. It is still common to see 2nd gen prius (2003-2009) on the road with over 200k miles on them, many still on the original battery. and they can still drive like a regular gas vehicle with a dead battery

@lawrenceralph7481

Ай бұрын

@@JD-yx7be 1. A Toyota hybrid cannot be started with a completely dead traction battery. This is first hand experience with dead Highlander batteries. 2. The ABS unit in a Toyota hybrid is completely different than one in an ice car. It must accommodate both regeneration and safety. It is complicated to disagnose even for experienced Toyota hybrid master mechanics and expensive. In Highlanders it has been the subject of extended warranty due to deficiencies. It's failure often occurs with the traction battery failure as well. (This from experienced battery rebuild specialists). It is not a fatal flaw for the original owner because they occur in the low 200,000 mi range, but the premature failures of the PDS unit, the ABS unit, and the traction battery cause for concern for anyone buying a high mileage hybrid because the repairs are so expensive, they likely are higher than the purchase price of the vehicle.

@JD-yx7be

Ай бұрын

@@lawrenceralph7481 The massive price increases is due to the massive devaluing of the dollar, toyota didn't raise house prices or food cost. You can't export all your jobs and then import immigrant labor and complain no one can afford anything with a large chunk of the jobs disappeared. I am only familiar with the 2nd gen Prius battery replacement, it was throwing a warning light on the dash for the traction battery and mpg was under 35mpg, with the replacement pack it went back up to high 40s again.

@lawrenceralph7481

Ай бұрын

@@JD-yx7be In the past years the yen has devalued about 15% v. $. But not much of the value of Toyota,'s US product is made in Japan

So it’s basically a two seater.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

Ай бұрын

That all depends on the size of the occupants. -Travis

just Call it BaBy Tundra.

"small" lol