Sorry I misspoke a little toward the end… I’m thinking the new 6th Gen 4Runner TRD Pro will be $68-70K… since the new Tacoma TRD Pro will be over $65K. The 4Runner is generally just a little more… crazy.

@LivingRetirement

Ай бұрын

The 4Runner TRD Pro will be starting at 70k, not less.

@RK-nr8qf

Ай бұрын

All of the dealerships in my neck-of-the-woods are loaded with vehicles. It don't matter what manufacturer. The prices and interest rates are out of most people's reach. A far smarter purchase would be with some kind of appreciating real estate.

@UntamedMotors

Ай бұрын

@@LivingRetirementisn’t that just insane? Smh 🤦‍♂️

@CMS069

Ай бұрын

@@UntamedMotors I had a 23’ Trd pro 4Runner in magnetic gray that I put just barely 8000 miles on it that I owned for 8 months, traded it in for a 24’ Trd pro 4 runner. They gave me 54,000 for my 23’ and paid 56,416 for my 24’. . The dealer has my old 23 on the lot and they are asking $57,406. How does that make any sense?

@BGood496

Ай бұрын

It makes sense because they need wiggle room to sell your trade in.

Failing reliability? Corporate greed? Lagging sales? Toyota is getting more American by the day.

@jjpark1989

Ай бұрын

It's ironic because American brands are becoming more like the old Toyota we all know and love.

@thepositivelyfe8114

Ай бұрын

a conspiracy can be that Ford and chevy have forced toyota into this so they can sell more units lol.

@RiddledEnigma93

Ай бұрын

The resale value of vehicles is high so they are charging more for vehicles to offset the difference, but the higher prices end up sitting on the lots longer!~

@providentpathfinders219

Ай бұрын

@@jjpark1989really??????? reliability is still crap.

@Keefer24

Ай бұрын

@@providentpathfinders219everything is crap nowadays.

Toyota is building it cheaper in Mexico and selling it for PREMIUM 😂

@janetairlines1351

Ай бұрын

If trump gets back in he will tariff every vehicle coming across the border so much that they will move back to usa

@predpalina

Ай бұрын

Dealership greed backed by Toyota itself!

@2009polostar

Ай бұрын

It should the other way around. A discount for having them built in Mexico.

@fromscla5883

Ай бұрын

Going to be honest I prefer my Tacoma to be build in Mexico than USA. Car manufacturer unions are crap and it reflects on quality.

@jaymontange8260

Ай бұрын

San Antonio plant has pride. They took the assembly of the Tacomas away.

Toyota taking the V-6 out of the Tacoma and the V-8 out of the Tundra was a HUGE mistake.

@Orion2023.

28 күн бұрын

Exactly! They have no idea what America wants! I want a 6-cyl diesel pickup and or a diesel land cruiser with a solid front axel. Independent suspension sucks.

@bryancopeland2540

26 күн бұрын

And no one wants half electric as well!

@fwungy4285

26 күн бұрын

Toyota doesn't want to use them. It's the Feds forcing emissions rules on them. Toyota sells $10k pickups in the developing world that people would happily buy in the US if they could, but the Feds won't allow it.

@tacotue4eva677

24 күн бұрын

As a 2020 Tacoma owner , the 3.5 is a gutless motor and gets subpar gas mileage too. It has to be tuned to have any type of power. Jmho

@rocketpigrecords3719

24 күн бұрын

​@@fwungy4285wrong. Toyota itself said it won't import the Thailand meme truck, because it would decimate Tacoma sales. And, what are we here talking about? Tacos that cost more than an SS or GT.

81k for a tundra!?! Holy shit

@Scientist_Salarian

Ай бұрын

Cars and Bids has had some ‘20-‘23 very well-equipped Tundras for 50-60 grand. That’s the way to go.

@mayowankenobi

27 күн бұрын

@@Scientist_SalarianStill overpriced.

@blinkguy4ever

27 күн бұрын

​@@mayowankenobi tell me something thats not overpriced these days? A freaking corolla is about 30k.... inflation man

@pnichols8583

25 күн бұрын

Fuck them turbo’s

@stevendunnuck

19 күн бұрын

Rather have a raptor

We need to send a message to Toyota. You can KEEP your 2024 Tacoma’s!

@bluecruiser2019

Ай бұрын

And 4Runners and Land Cruiser (Lites) AKA Prados.

@burntvirtue

Ай бұрын

Why did you use an apostrophe to pluralize a word?

@foxgood

Ай бұрын

And what answer are you going to give to Honda which sells as expensive as Toyota ?

@providentpathfinders219

Ай бұрын

you send them that message! you tell em good! 😂😂😂

@Keefer24

Ай бұрын

@@foxgoodI saw a brand new ridgeline black for sale at a dealer ship in my area of PA for 43k fully loaded, the base price for a trd pro Tacoma is 65k basic trims I see for 50+. Put the pipe down 😂🤡

$10K is not enough, more like $25-30K I'm glad people are not buying.

@LiquidSm0ke

Ай бұрын

At least 20 grand

@Slammingutz

Ай бұрын

I love seeing people not buying overpriced trucks and cars. It’s about time the general population says “We have had enough price gouging and getting cheaper products for more money.” Go suck an egg @Toyota. I used to love your brand and was loyal but now you are just like any other American brand.

@Slammingutz

Ай бұрын

And and….the 4 cylinder turbo doesn’t get a significant MPG increase. I’m questioning the logic or the amount of greed that caused this horrible decision? It sounds like pure greed and a big middle finger to everyone who praised Toyota the past 4 decades.

@MuahMan

Ай бұрын

@@Slammingutz The crappy engines are because of the EPA. All the companies have to to do it. Still should be $35K loaded.

@luism8130

Ай бұрын

@@MuahManthat’s just an excuse. These engines don’t save any gas, they are anemic. Tried to tow with this and see how many MPGs you get. You’ll be lucky to see 5

America should get rid of dealers that do price gouging and let the people buy directly from the manufacturer.

@JoeCool820

28 күн бұрын

💯

@awdobsession717

22 күн бұрын

Tesla does that but a lot of Teslas are sitting on lots and not selling. I guess the EV thing was mostly hype….

@johnlocke3481

22 күн бұрын

Dealers keep people from buying unless they absolutley have to. The dealer model has lowered sales simply by existing. It's such a nightmare process people avoid it at all cost.

@josedehoyos3534

21 күн бұрын

exactly ..

@Electricslam77

14 күн бұрын

This corporate greed all started with COVID… Supply was down, demand was way up. This is not the case anymore… Yet these scum bag dealerships want big dollars for inferior trucks. NO THANKS!

The Tacoma was a reliable, simple truck for regular people. Now they are packed full of tech and features no one needs and are loaded with emissions crap. No thanks. Keep it.

@tomcurran8470

17 күн бұрын

Remember when the Japanese got into the US market with cheap mini pickups in the 1970s?

@Ceeewolf

14 күн бұрын

Emissions crap? F you.

Not interested in buying a tacoma anymore..

@albetherechillin

Ай бұрын

Me too

@selvinperdomo3509

Ай бұрын

@albetherechillin almost bought one a week ago. Told them keep it. They keep calling me told them 40 out the door..

@justing6594

Ай бұрын

Same! They can keep them.

@crushbaseball4270

Ай бұрын

It was funny when checking the comments for different Tacoma review videos with the prices of the Trd pro everyone just said they left to go look at the chevy Colorado after seeing the Tacoma prices

@selvinperdomo3509

Ай бұрын

I'm about to get the trail boss..better package .

A $60,000 truck with a 4 cylinder engine worth about $1,000. Nope.

@rl8571

Ай бұрын

Frontier with a naturally aspirated v6 is almost $30k cheaper. Does Toyota think tacoma owners just got a huge pay promotion? I plan on replacing my truck in the next two years so hopefully they would get their act together by then as those prices are out of range of practicality.

@BJC835

25 күн бұрын

👍

@awdobsession717

22 күн бұрын

Welcome to Biden’s America

@nofightingnolife7368

22 күн бұрын

@@awdobsession717Biden doesn’t dictate Toyotas pricing.

@swapsplat

22 күн бұрын

​@@nofightingnolife7368 They also said Biden didn't dictate gas prices while shutting down drilling and refining.

These are not 50k trucks. I love that people are coming together and saying no with their wallets. Enough is enough from these greedy dealers.

@ladyhawk7408

Ай бұрын

They kinda have no choice all the free money has come to a stop. These dealers don't seem to realize the stimi money Era is over.

@sponger04

22 күн бұрын

Oh so the dealers choose the MSRP that’s set by Toyota? Wow yeah that makes no sense.

@467076

7 күн бұрын

TRD pro and trailhunter is 64k and 62k. For a midsize 😂I’m buying me a BMW M2, at least I can burn rubber and it’ll be fun.

I bought a used '12 Tundra 4x4 double cab two years ago. It has the 5.7 and was under 90k miles for $25k. I have had ZERO issues.👍

Toyota isn’t getting my money. Toyota has let us all down Untamed

@johnstrand2247

Ай бұрын

Same with GM and Ford.

@993mike

Ай бұрын

I’m a huge Toyota fan, having owned both Toyota and Lexus SUV’s, but when you add together a thrashy unrefined 4 cylinder engine, high prices and fading reliability, I’m likely to shop around to other brands where in the past I would not.

@MrXapheth

Ай бұрын

It's not Toyota...it is the American way to do business...

@bradhaines3142

Ай бұрын

@@johnstrand2247 so youd rather get a dodge?!

@bigfootswatching9986

Ай бұрын

@@993mike lol.........the other brands are all junks! If anything get a 2023 toyota or older! These new Turbo's are junk along with the Price hike!!

It’s really unfortunate that Toyota has put greed before quality and affordability.

@M85Iroc

Ай бұрын

I think that's the issue with all automakers today.

@pinoyrunningpenguin

Ай бұрын

It's not really Toyota that is pricing it this way. They have to pay carbon credits for this vehicle and its big when its a big vehicle like this.

@mayowankenobi

27 күн бұрын

@@pinoyrunningpenguinWe need to stop these DUMB governments. Paying a carbon tax doesn't help the environment. Allowing innovation to happen with bureaucracy has ALWAYS led to the best advancements.

@UntamedMotors

14 күн бұрын

That’s the unfortunate truth. =\ Toyota sold out to government subsidies and carbon credits… =\ it’s a shame.

I bought my Tacoma TRD Off Road new in 2002 for $22K. I’m still driving it today and blue book is about $7K so I spent $15K to drive it 22years. That’s less than a $1000 a year. It has 180,000 miles and still runs like new.

@UntamedMotors

Ай бұрын

That’s awesome. I love hearing that! 💯

@droneworks6340

Ай бұрын

Under powered v6 junk. I test drove one. rived to high just to get tq. No way

@JoeCool820

28 күн бұрын

@@droneworks6340people buy tacomas for reliability plus they hold their value . Trust me I’ve had fords and Chevys and after 150k they turn into money pits!

@dhfox322

11 күн бұрын

$22k in 2002 is worth about $38,343.84 today (May 2024). Still much less than the price tag on these overpriced 2024 models.

A $2,500 discount is nothing on a $50K truck. Insulting.

Can’t believe Toyota has become such an expensive brand.

@10cpaul

Ай бұрын

they all have!

@jceess

Ай бұрын

@@10cpaul you can get some of the smaller Nissans for pretty low prices, if you're okay with being labeled a Nissan Driver

@dyates6380

Ай бұрын

@@jceess I have a Tacoma and love it. I did have a Nissan Xterra and really liked that as well.

@Keefer24

Ай бұрын

@@jceessThe frontier is better than this new Tacoma by a long shot. My buddy got a pro 4x a couple years back, it’s been solid for him. I can’t remember what he paid for it but I know it was way less than these Tacomas. Also still a naturally aspirated v6 getting the same gas mileage these are 😂

@darylhill9400

Ай бұрын

The Porsche of pick ups! They hold their value unbelievably and they will be reliable, or Toyota will standby them

sorry to curse but toyota really fucked up these prices are just insane

@smokeylake3150

Ай бұрын

The loss of the V6 for a 4 cyl is dumb.

@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN

Ай бұрын

​@@smokeylake3150loss of the V6 plus the crazy prices are why I won't get another Tacoma...I have a 23 offroad right now.

@Bruce22027

Ай бұрын

@@smokeylake3150reason: federal carbon credits

@Rhaspun

Ай бұрын

Companies are taking advantage of the price increases we had from the pandemic and the chip shortage. They've seen how much they can get away with and have kept the pedal to the medal when it comes to prices.

@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN

Ай бұрын

@@Rhaspun facts

Totally agree, I am not paying $60K for a 4 cylinder that IS NOT AS GOOD LOOING AS THE PREVIOUS GENERATION. You have a truck with good sales, good looking, and the leadership decides to gamble with that?

Too much greed, when you look at the auto prices compared to 2019, these hikes are well beyond inflation

It was my dream truck.... I'm not interested anymore. I bought my house 10 years ago for a little over 100k, no way this is worth almost half of that.

@luigivincenz3843

Ай бұрын

A 2024 Corvette is $68K base. I'd rather save for the other 14K and get the Corvette because I know what it's worth. The 2024 Taco is just ridiculous.

@FJCTRD

Ай бұрын

The truck got announced last year, how would that make it your "Dream Truck?" 😂

@theKiddAlways

Ай бұрын

​​@@FJCTRDthey meant overall. it's been around for decades. people can have a nameplate they alwaya wanted. you're for sure sure a few eggs short of a dozen. go back to playing video games

@KennyboyGM

Ай бұрын

You're not from California

@munozyoshi

Ай бұрын

@@theKiddAlways exactly...

Why would I want a new car when I have a functioning car that is already paid off?

@OVERDINNER

Ай бұрын

Keep it. I just put a new engine in my full size pickup for $5K. Now I can drive it another 150,000 miles.

@Barneyrubble241

Ай бұрын

More and more people are saying the same thing. It's the GOLDEN AGE for auto mechanics.

@Barneyrubble241

Ай бұрын

@@OVERDINNER I will do the same if I need to. My old Silverado has 370k, but it's doing just fine.

@droneworks6340

Ай бұрын

My cars are paid off when new too. This makes no sense. LOL

@juliomaldonado4028

Ай бұрын

​@@droneworks6340How new? Now many people can afford to just pay off brand new cars in full. That's impressive

I'm glad I got my 4Runner in 2021 ($41K) and Tacoma in 2022 ($43K). Holding on to both indefinitely.

@UntamedMotors

Ай бұрын

Nice! Good move 👌 💯

@hermanpeters549

26 күн бұрын

My 2021 4 runner was $30k

I am hanging on to my 1992 Toyota SR5 4x4 extended cab (manual) pickup. Bought it new in 1991. Looks like new, works great (220,000 miles), and feels solid. Roll up windows. No computer screens. Simple truck. Toyota has to get back to basics! My next Toyota will be an old used one (if I can find one). No turbo.

@riseabove3082

12 күн бұрын

bet it has no power steering as well. Nice trucks btw but I do prefer some basics these days like power windows and locks and power steering.

47k for a 4Runner SR5 premium? That’s insane. I will keep my 2016 for 10 more years.

@BGood496

Ай бұрын

Totally 👍2017 4Runner TRD PRO. Not a single issue with it and I’m gonna drive it till the wheels fall off😀

@rickyaz8640

Ай бұрын

They hold their value. No turbos, no fancy hybrid to breakdown, lousy gas mileage, it’ll run until the apocalypse

@tedbell4416

Ай бұрын

Same here 2016 trail

@2009polostar

Ай бұрын

Remember, vehicles are depreciating assets. Keep and maintain your vehicle as long as you can. It's your car, not the bank's.

@dyates6380

Ай бұрын

Same here. I have a 2018 Sport with only 36,350 on it, and it'll last me forever. Seriously, as I drive very little at this point. So glad I'm not in the market now.

I can't imagine paying $50k for a tiny 4cyl pickup truck.....

This is why I will be holding onto my 2017 Tacoma forever

I'm sitting in my brand new 2024 Nissan Frontier Pro 4x, fully loaded. V6 and made in America. I love it. These are the reasons I went to Nissan.

@teddyruxspin8480

15 күн бұрын

nissan is junk

@irked4975

15 күн бұрын

@teddyruxspin8480 cool story bro.

@thenaturalmidsouth9536

7 күн бұрын

I wouldn't buy ANY Nissan passenger car or Infiniti, however, I'd seriously look at that Frontier if I wanted a new small truck. Toyota is really screwing up their brand. Good thing is, there are a lot of lower mileage Toyotas out there.

Cancelled my refundable deposit on a 24 Tacoma

Glad to see you no longer sugar coating things. Your last several videos have been hard hitting. I agree with you 100%. The fan boys hate me, but I have been a Toyota owner for over 40 years. Longer than you've been alive. I haven't bought any since I bought my 21 Taco in April 21. So until this economy breaks and Toyota comes back to earth and acts decent again, they won't pull a dime from me. Keep up the good work on the videos.

@donaltemus3565

Ай бұрын

I can’t even agree more with you. I cry out this and hope Toyota listens.

@DannyFyffe

Ай бұрын

@@donaltemus3565 They will not listen until the economy knocks everyone down. Then they will drop a majority of their vehicles 13K to 18K down. Right now, they have 15-20K profit built into things like Tundra's Tacoma's, Sequoia's, etc. When things get hard, they will try to get to their normal profit of around 2K. When it gets really hard, they will go for break even so the full 15-20K off and maybe slightly more just to survive. I have said this for a year now and I have been laughed at many times, but it will happen.

@user-wu5gr9eb6r

13 күн бұрын

Agreed. My 2021 Taco, 4-cyl, 2 wd, access cab, 27 mpg for $26k is good enough. But probably the last Toyota I will buy. The dealers have ruined the brand.

Thanks for all of the content and info!

My 2022 Trd off road was assembled in Baja Mexico, but are the major components still built in Japan. Like the 3gen was?

Tacoma sales will struggle for the following 3 reasons: 1. 4-Cylinder Engine 2. 4-Cylinder Engine 3. 4-Cylinder Engine

@robertwojtkiewicz3366

Ай бұрын

I’m not paying $50k for basic looking 4 cylinder Mexican made Tacoma ! Just an idea of 4 cylinder truck it’s an absolute deal killer for me !

@ronvaughan8041

Ай бұрын

@@robertwojtkiewicz3366 The 4 cylinder engines are what made them legendary with the reliability. The turnoff on these new ones is the turbo, as well as the price tag. People know that's a lot of headaches. I bought a '22 SR with the 2.7 when it was announced the end was coming.

@rl8571

Ай бұрын

They bowed down to the climate change gods.

@robertwojtkiewicz3366

Ай бұрын

@@rl8571I have 5 close friends who were very excited for new Tacoma , but after seeing in person and price increase they said they out , and they were die hard Tacoma fans ! Plus the that 4 cylinder sounds absolutely hideous !

@boyantrifonov

29 күн бұрын

Porsche had bad sales with their Boxster with a 4 cylinder engine for a $70-80K car. So they added a 6 cylinder at the facelift. (even if the cost was close to $100K) Mercedes C63 AMG has almost no sales of their brand new $100K+ car with a 4 cylinder engine. But this one of the things about capitalism. Vote with your dollar. Lost sales will make them think. Plus Toyota is using a 6 cylinder engine in the new Lexus equivalent to the new Lan Cruiser. They have the technology.

Remember when the politicians said NAFTA would keep prices low? 🤣

@davidlorang7697

Ай бұрын

They did keep wages lower!

@christopherfetterman5947

28 күн бұрын

The sales price hasn't happened yet

@JohnS-il1dr

28 күн бұрын

When NAFTA happened jobs got outsourced like mad. We helped Mexico much much more than what we got in return.

Great video, you hit nail on the head!Thanks!

@UntamedMotors

8 күн бұрын

Thanks a ton man!

are the engines in the tundra the same that go into the new gx?

Record profits since 2020 tells me it isn’t inflation it’s G R E E D.

@FullsendOffroad

Ай бұрын

Maybe. I've seen every manufacturer do this, besides, everything has gone up in price, not just cars, so it is inflation.

@raymondhumphrey2749

Ай бұрын

Absolutely Right...

@Jay-bw3fl

Ай бұрын

@@FullsendOffroad don’t be naïve

@minipandora22

Ай бұрын

💢 J O E B I D E N 💢

@Sam-dq7ws

Ай бұрын

Since plandemic scam

Roman from TFL said SR5s aren’t selling, because all of the customers are waiting for the higher trims. He is so out of touch.

@reecec8490

Ай бұрын

He has too much to gain blowing Toyota

@marimashburn7796

Ай бұрын

That’s why he gets the invite to all the events. He says what Toyota wants to hear!

@Richard57353

Ай бұрын

Most of the people at TFL are out touch. Stopped watching they’re stuff years ago😂

@Yoyomanmanholla

Ай бұрын

Who tf is Roman

@MrRailroader03

Ай бұрын

He’s a Toyota suck ass

The tumbleweed under the bumper of the silver Tundra says it all.... Maybe add a sign swaying in the distance and a door slamming open and shut in the wind..... hahahaha

I recently bought a '24 Tacoma TRD Off Road for 45k total with taxes. I haggled it down. Here in San Antonio the TRD Off Roads are selling fast and the Tacoma TRD Sport is selling slowly. The Tacoma SR5'S are selling way slower. I'm happy with my truck. It handles great. It looks great. I get a lot of compliments.

Wait for the "Chimichanga Edition" for $70,000

@yourmanzach2307

Ай бұрын

is that real? soundslike a joke but I wouldn't doubt it

@JA-zh5xi

Ай бұрын

Looks like you need to go feed Tina!

@outbackeddie

Ай бұрын

I am holding out for the enchilada addition at $100,000

@rjs2974

Ай бұрын

Guacamole green (formerly luna rock) color option adds 6,500.

@battleborn4590

28 күн бұрын

😂 LMAO

cheapest tacoma were used by the laborers in the past. but now it is not for the ordinary people.

Are the parts also made there or is just assembled?

Thanks for the info/ video, you seem very knowledgeable and I agree with everything you said. Keep up the good fight . We appreciate it.

@UntamedMotors

19 күн бұрын

Thank you for the support and kind words. Appreciate that! =]

Basically Toyota is including the mark up into the msrp!!

@mindfullymellow2323

Ай бұрын

Was looking at a Corolla Cross, sticker $30,900. OTD with stupid markup and “upholstery protection” = $39,500. Ran to Mazda and got a great deal on a CX-5.

Nissan Frontier, 300 HP, naturally aspirated V6, made in the USA, $47K. They look pretty good too! Ref. Scotty Kilmer’s recent endorsement.

@lamadden7512

27 күн бұрын

I’m gonna go look at it

@jonathanshearer8437

27 күн бұрын

I wouldn't pick up a new Nissan if you gave it to me for free. I've had two, and they were HORRIBLE. Major repairs and recalls within the first year on both.

@bobbyb.1743

27 күн бұрын

@@jonathanshearer8437 thanks for that Johnathon, great to know. Ive never owned one, but on paper it looked to be a viable alternative. However, your real-world experience of ownership tells me otherwise. Will steer clear of the Nissan. 👍🏻

@woodardkingsbury1648

26 күн бұрын

Lmao only 47k what a savings 😂

@daywalker4029

26 күн бұрын

@@bobbyb.1743 know plenty of people with 3rd gen frontiers and they haven't had any issues with them. my coworker has 45k miles on his 2022 and hasn't had any issues.

My 2018 Tacoma’s A/C evaporator started leaking, and then noticed an oil stain around the front timing cover seal. I only had 125k miles on it. After seeing that the new Tacoma only has a turbocharged 4 cylinder sealed the deal for me not to get one. I bought a 2023 Frontier instead.

Thanks man!! nice video.

The real question is why are they even in the 50's? Should just raise them to 80k or higher. Not like lowering the price to 40k is going to make a lot of lower range salary people come out to buy. They made the decision that only higher income people can afford their trucks. Dealers don't even order many base models.

The 4 banger turbo motor looks like spaghetti nightmare ! I'll pass .

Bought a 2015 right before they switched to the “improved” 3.5L. Mine is a 4x4 SR5, extended cab, with the 4.0L and six speed manual. I got almost everything the TRD package offered except for the decals, which I’ve never been a fan of. I paid $32,500 and thought that was a bit steep. Ain’t no way I’d pay almost double that for a turbo four with a battery pack.

Some of those cost more than my house did.

Ppl don’t like turbo and overpriced cars.

@Andrew-86227

Ай бұрын

People like turbos…just NOT in a 4cylinder Tacoma.

@Skip8459

Ай бұрын

They’re overworked engines in whatever they’re in. They don’t last as long as a NA engine.

@bondobilly9369

Ай бұрын

​@@Skip8459 moat don't tow or haul, a turbo 4 is a good choice. If you're going to actually use it as a mini pickup, get a ranger or bare bones 150/0 for the same price

@locker1325

Ай бұрын

I don't want a turbo 4 banger in my premium prices truck either.

@droneworks6340

Ай бұрын

I love turbo cars and trucks speak for yourself. LOL

Bought a 2020 SR5 4Runnner Premium in summer of 2020 for about $38K. Now it's $47K+. Nuts.

@sprint2648

Ай бұрын

Bidenomics!

Is there no longer a SR model below the SR5?

Thanks for the great video. I own a 2018 4Runner TRD pro and it is a great vehicle and I’m thinking on getting the new 2025 trailhunter but I sure don’t want to pay over $70K

They need to come down about 30%.

@robertwojtkiewicz3366

29 күн бұрын

They will as soon as people stop buying their overpriced Mexican cheaply build Tacomas

@dethtour

26 күн бұрын

​@@robertwojtkiewicz3366they're probably made better in mexico. Americans are lazy and have bad work ethic. My issue just comes down to p4oce with what you're paying for an sr5 tacome with the trd off road you're better off buying a tundra sr with 4x4 like the base model it ends up being cheaper

I paid 55k for my fully optioned out 22 trd off road Tundra. These Tacoma’s should be 30k.

@SLHJR0390

Ай бұрын

I’m looking at the same right now. 56k off road premium tundra crewmax , 6.5 ft bed … 56k. I don’t know why one would even consider a Tacoma considering

So what's the alternative, other than Nissan Frontier aren't they all 4cyl turbos? And the Frontier pricing is pretty much the same.

I got very lucky getting my 2023 trd off road with the pro package for 43k a few months ago. Plan on holding on to this truck for life

I'm old enough to remember the 1988 Toyota truck. It had a EFI engine good ac with R12 in it you would freeze with it. You could buy them for $7500 brand new made in Japan. Now look at Toyotas 50k for a Mexican Tacoma.

@zachsamay2026

Ай бұрын

Yup was trying to get one of those around 2008-2009 for my first vehicle. Obama took a dump on us with cash for clunkers. You could get a nice one for around $3500 at that time. Couldnt afford one at the time so I bought a sedan, figured Id wait till the prices came down. Looks like I'll never own my dream vehicle. Or maybe any of its decendents either. If Toyota keeps this crap up the 2015-2023 model is gonna be selling for $35k for the next 30 years on the used market. I mean i can theoretically afford it now but just on principle I dont want to pay that much for a vehicle with 200k miles on it

@TC-iz5hr

Ай бұрын

I bought a 1988 4X4 back then for a little over $10K. I had to trade it in for a sedan a couple years later for personal reasons, which is my most regretted vehicle transaction ever. It was my favorite vehicle of all time.

Of course. Raptor for $57k and the frontier pro4x for way less… the reliability excuse can only go so far. Cheers untamed!

@Wxman9123

Ай бұрын

Raptor might be $57k but you won't find one for that price much less it being available.

@BGood496

Ай бұрын

@@Wxman9123Agreed

@postalchaos

Ай бұрын

@@Wxman9123You’re right about dealer markups for the Raptor, however there’s going to be markups on the TRD Pro as well.

@LiquidSm0ke

Ай бұрын

I think the frontier will be pretty reliable

@davidwethington9320

Ай бұрын

​@@Wxman9123 If you order it, no mark up.

To be fair to Toyota, a 1995 4runner SR5 had an msrp for $23000 roughly. In 2024 dollars, that’s $47,136. That 2024 4runner is within spitting distance.

@MitchPickelsimer

Ай бұрын

And that’s why I’m keeping my 1998 4Runner. It’s paid for and still runs great. I’d rather pay to maintain it than buy a computer on wheels.

@etfbit

Ай бұрын

does your '95 have a 4 banger too wiseguy - shrinkflation

@saamilarson

Ай бұрын

@@etfbit it certainly could have, although mine has the v6 option, and it still has about half the horsepower of the 2024. A 2017 ford f350 with a 6.7L cost more than a 2003 with a 7.3L. There’s a lot more to this than engine size.

Why are these trucks so huge? How do you get anything in or out of the bed?

I want a Toyota truck Made in JAPAN- V-6 no batteries, and a great stereo. OR- A toyota HILUX CHAMP, sold out of INdia for the grand total of $13,000 US DOllars. We need the Champ in our American Toyota dealerships, it is the bomb of utilitarian Truck at a reasonable price.

@vis1512

Ай бұрын

Sold out of India ??

@terryosowski8143

Ай бұрын

I have one a ‘19 TRD Pro with all new aftermarket Fox suspension Kayskin leather interior 52K miles 3.5L V6 normally aspirated. And is PAID FOR!!!

Low balling for high demand quality trade in value models while they increase prices for new models. If you've got a nice rig keep it, let them eat cake.

Thank you as always!

@UntamedMotors

21 күн бұрын

Thank you for the support! =]

Mexico has 42 car makers in the country with around 500 different models being produced there. Its one of the best industries for automotive manufacturing. Whats wrong with that? I understand the sentiment due to less jobs in the USA but offshoring has been ongoing for decades. Newsflash, Toyota is not the only car manufacturer moving their assembly lines to Mexico. Companies like BMW, Ford, Teslas have all done this. Offshoring to Mexico was primarily triggered by the tariffs on China.

@williamc7367

26 күн бұрын

Mexico is the "New" China.

@PerschMotorsports

23 күн бұрын

Triggered by unions not china. No cars have ever been made in china!

@iramirez95020

23 күн бұрын

Big corporations save on tariffs and labor in Mexico but still doesn't reflect on the sale price.

@adamculjak3627

22 күн бұрын

Ya they save money in Mexico on labor and then raise the price on us by 15k from last year. You don't see the problem with that? It's a mid size truck that's priced between 50-70k after dealer markups.

You are witnessing the end of the automotive industry. Find your local bicycle shop.

@justsayin3600

Ай бұрын

In 2023 I bought a Specialized Stumpjumper Evo Pro. It was on sale for 6.3k. After a few pre-purchase add ons, out the door 7.1k. Bikes ain't cheap these days either.

@heavycream6682

Ай бұрын

*online bicycle shop. Honestly I'm think many low-income folks will be commuting on electric bikes im already starting to see it. Some get 90 miles a charge.

@WayneWatson1

Ай бұрын

It's why the used market is so crazy

@JoeCool820

28 күн бұрын

Or motorcycle

@randallsmith7885

25 күн бұрын

The bicycle industry is doing the same thing as the auto industry. Prices shot up during covid. Then the manufacturers over produced bikes and put prices up. Now they are all swimming in inventory. Bike companies are starting to feel the pain.

4 banger over-priced Mexican truck w/ a Toyota label? NO MORE!!!

@cletusvandamme6262

Ай бұрын

G-R-E-E-D.

@alxdava2004

Ай бұрын

Factories work the same way.

@shanes481

Ай бұрын

@@alxdava2004 I prefer to support my fellow American's. My ridgeline was built in the USA.

What is the most recent year/model of Tacoma that was great quality/value?

Informative video, thanks! Vote with your dollars people.

Nissan Frontier is the best midsize on the market right now

@justing6594

Ай бұрын

I would buy one tomorrow if they made then in a manual shift.

@ewxlt

Ай бұрын

$44k for a new frontier crew cab. No thanks!

@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN

Ай бұрын

​@@ewxlt35k for them in my area...and Pro4x's for 39/40k

@Eric721.

Ай бұрын

It was actually voted in the 10 worst by consumer reports

@5thLegion

Ай бұрын

@@Eric721. bout as reliable as CNN. Ford, Dodge and Chevy have the top 10 worst on lockdown

$50,000 for a truck and they put a prop rod under the hood.

@UntamedMotors

Ай бұрын

Haha right!? Sums it up well.

@pzadach

Ай бұрын

The thing that floored me is that on a loaded TRDOR you get a little plastic skidplate in the front and a temporary spare tire.

The Toyota dealer in Langely BC Canada refused to let us even test drive a vehicle when they found out we would not be financing through them. We walked quickly

@droneworks6340

Ай бұрын

I pay cash. Dealers are stupid.

I love that KZread ran a Nissan Frontier ad at the beginning of the video!

Nissan Frontier V6 gas is the new king.

I bought a Ford Ranger built in Tennessee and 10k cheaper with side boards, big digital screen and 7K lbs of towing capacity

@droneworks6340

Ай бұрын

I have the Ranger also love the turbo I have the Tremor lariat. I test drove an older taco with that V6 what a POS it was. Too slow and no power unless it got to 8k rpm.

@JoeCool820

28 күн бұрын

I’ve owned fords and they all sucked! I rather have an older Tacoma then be found on road dead😂

@richardlee2642

27 күн бұрын

My '24 Ranger Lariat was about $2500 cheaper than a comparable Tacoma TRD Sport. I was a tough decision: I wanted the 6-speed manual transmission and power moonroof, neither of which is available in a Ranger.

This makes me feel good about my 2023 trd offroad I bought last August for sure

So how long have these been sitting?

The reason for lack of sales is because Tacos are first year models and prices are out of control.

@indycharlie

Ай бұрын

And Turbo's !

@Slammingutz

Ай бұрын

And and turbo 4 Cylinder and the cheap seats….the seats are noticeably cheaper and less supportive. Don’t take my word for it, go sit in a new taco….the interior is cheaper.

@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN

Ай бұрын

​@@Slammingutzthose new interiors look like shit

Auto makers have jacked up the prices on trucks by 35-40% in the last 4-5 years. The trd off-road force max is over $65,000. Absolutely INSANE for a Mexican-built truck. Nissan will be my next new truck, and even THOSE are too expensive. Toyota has lost a loyal customer with their price gouging.

@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN

Ай бұрын

I'm done with Toyota too. My 23 Tacoma Offroad will be my last. If I trade it in, it will be for a Frontier.

Still happy I got my 2013 TRD off road (salvaged title that was completely OeM rebuilt) was 18,750 with 22k miles.

I have a 2000 4runner limited with 200,000 miles on it that I still love to drive. I would rather put $400 to $600 a year in maintenance and repairs than pay out the $ss for a new Tacoma.

Nothing but sheer GREED

@jfifield20

Ай бұрын

In fairness it's not all greed on Toyota's part. Toyota has also had to massively up wages and benefits to its workers thanks to Union threat/negotiations.

@Scientist_Salarian

Ай бұрын

Greed? Toyota and its dealers are allowed to ask whatever price they want for their product. It’s their property. In turn, you as a consumer are free to not spend your money with them. They aren’t forcing you to buy their vehicles, nor do they owe you one for whatever price you want. Supply and demand. 5th-grade economics.

Thanks for calling Toyota out. They have totally gone the wrong direction☹️🤷‍♂️

Great job. Truck prices have gone nuts.

I have a 2017 gmc sierra that was built In Mexico. What a disaster! Transmission redone . Both front wheel bearings. Rear light harnesses. The ceiling lights over the windshield fell down . Plus plus plus. What a disaster it has been.

My son was in the market for a new truck. He originally wanted a Tacoma. He saw the prices and pretty much said nope. He ain't poor working as an engineer for a Fortune 500 company.

@edhcb9359

Ай бұрын

He should get into sales. He could afford one of these Tacomas if he did!

@pinoyrunningpenguin

Ай бұрын

That's why you need to stop buying a truck if you only go to work in a nice air-conditioned office. sitting in a nice chair. A truck is meant for farmers, miners, tradesmen, mechanics, plumbers, etc. It is for people who need it not for people who just want a truck just because they got money

@edhcb9359

Ай бұрын

@@pinoyrunningpenguin I love driving my $80k truck to my office wearing my freshly ironed Carhartt clothes and Redwing boots. I don’t do blue collar work. It doesn’t pay enough.

@bettysmith4527

Ай бұрын

@@pinoyrunningpenguin Um, I use mine on the regular for home chores, and do not use it for "work". If you own a SFH having a truck is priceless!

Hey Untamed, I just test drove a 2024 Tacoma trd off road today and other than the new 8 speed gearbox, I wasn’t impressed. The initial throttle response (low range) was impressive but when I floored the throttle to get on the freeway, I wasn’t impressed compared to the 3rd gen V6 powerband. Noticed the cheapness of the interior with more cheap plastic than the previous gen Tacoma. The hood I could see vibrate on the rear of the hood closest to the windshield on the drivers side and again, the truck literally felt like a four cylinder that was out of juice when I got on it at freeway speeds. I know advocates like TRDJon, robmotive, and the TFE crew (among others) rant and rave about how infinitely superior it is to the “old gen” 3rd gen Tacoma but I’m not feeling or agreeing with their enthusiasm about this new platform. I guess I’m not drinking the same Toyota Kool-aid as they are, nor am I politically obligated to the Toyota higher ups as well. Love my 2022 3rd gen TRD PRO Tacoma and maybe I’d change my tune if they dropped the price(s) to a realistic MSRP but I know I’d be drinking the Toyota “Kool-aid” ad well. 😳

@Slammingutz

Ай бұрын

I agree with you. The seats and interior are cheap. The engine is gutless when you attempt to merge onto the freeway. It’s an all around overpriced cheap (Mexico built) bait and switch from the old Toyota trucks.

@johnathoncastro

Ай бұрын

TrdJon is a joke

@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN

Ай бұрын

Those big guys like TrdJon won't say anything negative...they care about making money...they could care less about getting the truth out.

@deantrainr

Ай бұрын

@@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN Very true indeed. I know they aren’t gonna sabotage the bed there sleeping in per se but users like TrdJon opinions seem artificial and “fake” to me; which is an annoyance in reality.

@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN

Ай бұрын

@@deantrainr they seem fake because they are fake. As far as TrdJon goes, he's an idiot, he traded in his 22 Pro for a 24 Offroad...how stupid can someone be..

Great video

Truck prices are insane, I was able to order my 2021 TRD off-road double cab long bed in March of 2021 with premium technology package and a few other add ons for 37,495 out the door

This crazy pricing is going to end up benefitting Nissan for sure. For $43k you can get a Frontier Pro4x with a V6.

Toyota executives need to monitor these sites and listen to what the people are saying.

@SLHJR0390

Ай бұрын

They do and are

@JohnS-il1dr

28 күн бұрын

​@@SLHJR0390they do and don't care.

It is all about the motor for me. I want a V6 not a turbo 4 cylinder. Made in Mexico is not a selling point. The frame rusting issue from Toyota is still fresh in my mind. Toyota needs to rethink who the customer is.

Tacomas are selling like crazy where i live. Thanks for this info! it might be time to make a road trip!

Too expensive. Gen 6 4runners likely to top over 70k. Those will sit, too. All old gen tundra, tacoma, gen 5 4runners values will go up due to new gens having massive price increases.

@UntamedMotors

Ай бұрын

Man that’s just crazy to even think about… a $70K 4Runner. Doesn’t even feel right saying it out loud haha 😂

81K + for a Tundra. 🤣🤣

@tedbell4416

Ай бұрын

No way in hell

@ApriliaRacer14

Ай бұрын

It’s absolutely shocking

I still have the original window sticker for my 2003 V8 4runner limited 4x4 ($40,400). That's the equivalent of nearly $69k today. So prices aren't totally out of whack. Rather, the build quality and materials have declined