Kirk, there’s a web tether loop in the crease of the seat right by where the seatbelt comes out on the door side of the back seat. Literally under your bum when you’re seated. The tether allows you to to adjust the rear seatback. Watch Alex on Autos for his demonstration of that feature on the 2025 Forester. Please share your knowledge with the other KZread reviews like Soyfan and the Kentucky brothers (Car Confections). Thanks for all you do!!

@KirkKreifels

10 күн бұрын

Found it! Thanks. In the video I was sitting on one and the booster seat was covering the other tether hahaah!

@saltyt.1886

10 күн бұрын

Glad I could help!! I’m hoping the Forester Hybrid is quicker and more efficient…and still praying the 2.4 Turbo Forester XT comes to the North American market!

Subaru will be dead to me the moment they discontinue the WRX. I don’t care if the wilderness lineup is doing well for them, it’s just not the same company anymore… so boring… Subaru is lucky that the upcoming Forester hybrid will use Toyota’s hybrid tech. Will be a VERY good alternative to the often marked-up RAV4 hybrid considering the Toyota dealerships and their shenanigans. Mazda’s next on my list I I think.

@tomcharbonneau9788

10 күн бұрын

Agree totally, boring car and boring engine.

Kirk, I'm glad you brought up the new 2025 Forester. We are planning to get one of these in Touring trim. Thank you. Love your channel as always.

At this point, they should just buy a license to use Toyota's infotainment in all their products like in the Solterra. That 4 fps Fisher Price UI tablet is not working and I can't be convinced otherwise.

for me it looks like a car from the early 2000 but they are also many people out there who like that.

Love the analog gages 👍 Subaru , well done.

We own a 2020 premium Forester. We love it! if I could change anything, it would be to add more interior storage cubbies and softer center console padding. This updated interior is dump because they moved many of the HVAC and control buttons to the screen.

Subaru has removed the problematic TCV component from the 2025 Forrester engine.

@0HOON0

10 күн бұрын

Do you mean they redesigned it?

@sunlover5150

10 күн бұрын

@@0HOON0 No, Subaru eliminated the part and went back to a tried and true thermostat..

@0HOON0

10 күн бұрын

@@sunlover5150 Didn't think that was possible, but it's seems you're right. Thanks for the info.

Off topic: The floridian landscape looks so beautiful.

Hoping a Wilderness Turbo to fill in that 2nd tailpipe outlet. I daily a 472hp Lexus, but the 180 hp would be a hard no for me.

Every single subaru is essentially the same car now. Pretty lame IMHO.

@KirkKreifels

10 күн бұрын

Yeah. Cost reduction.

Dont know why car companies are going all digital for the heating/aircon controls. Manual controls are much safer when driving given they have a tactile quality and in many cases take less of your vision off the road when driving. It's simply technology for changes sake.

Unfortunately the touchscreen infotainments lag is a real killer for me. It is quite annoying and dangerous when I need to quickly change apps on highway or driving

These won't sell well for 40k+ along with a cvt

THAT SMALL BACK SEAT MAP POCKET MUST BE A PLACE FOR YOUR CELL PHONE WHEN CHARGING

I’m looking at a brand new 2024 for $25.5k right now I think it’s the way to go. Not really a fan of this new design-looks like a Honda pilot to me

@KirkKreifels

10 күн бұрын

thats a steal!

@Ariaiana1023

9 күн бұрын

lol what trim and where?

Hard to find a more well rounded vehicle in the segment!

@Hallowsaw

10 күн бұрын

Crv hybrid

@thomas735

10 күн бұрын

@@Hallowsaw meh, Subaru has way better customer support than Honda

@0HOON0

10 күн бұрын

​@@naveenthemachineCR-V is a step up in price and the Hyundai/Kia options don't perform as well for light off-roading.

@0HOON0

10 күн бұрын

@@naveenthemachine It's more the traction control programming.

@kevman949

8 күн бұрын

@@Hallowsaw Eh, their infotainment screen is a joke especially the smaller one. Unimpressive interior as well.

It needs the turbo engine. This is why I bought the Outback, for the turbo and ventilated seats. From what I hear, the forester is now available with ventilated seats though. No turbo, no go.

@angusmacdonald5300

10 күн бұрын

Maybe the overdue hybrid will be better than this “anemic” newest Forester.

@m3rdpwr

10 күн бұрын

@@angusmacdonald5300 yeah, it's my understanding that the Crosstrek hybrid didn't fare too well.

A little more power and (most importantly) a traditional transmission, and this would be top of my list.

This car is solid! Thanks for sharing. I hope there's an XT hehe.

IDK why some people look down on the boxer engine. I had a GR86 and that car was super fun to drive and rev up.

2013 Ford Edge front. What was Subaru thinking?

I'm currently deciding btw the 2025 Forester and 2024 Mazda CX-5. I might be leaning more towards the CX-5 because its already been refined and tested.

what are your impressions of the CVT. if you're looking for race car the forester is probably not the vehicle for you maybe the WRX STI

Kirk, I'm glad you mentioned the big windows. The big windows and low beltlines found in Subarus is so refreshing compared to the tiny windows found in a lot of other modern cars. Makes driving so easy!

@KirkKreifels

10 күн бұрын

It's truly a luxury feature!

@kdomster9141

10 күн бұрын

@@KirkKreifels Not really, I call it aquarium 🥴😉

@angusmacdonald5300

10 күн бұрын

The downside of the aquarium is it gets very bright and hot in the summertime

@angusmacdonald5300

10 күн бұрын

The engine is still noisy when pulling as can be heard in this video.

Definitely looks better. I think you meant 6x9” on the touch screen. 😂

Would love to know how this compares to a 2024 Hyundai Tucson.

The front end kind of looks like a smaller sclae version of the Ford Explorer.

New body with old engine and transmission...

@midnitestate

10 күн бұрын

True but next year they are re introducing a hybrid model. So that's something to look forward to.

The CVT is a deal-breaker.

Not having a single Hybrid option makes Subaru look very bad.

Can't stand Subaru these days

@lsmocyclist

10 күн бұрын

They have ruined the outback With the gross over used plastic cladding 🤮

@AP_allday

10 күн бұрын

They get even uglier as time goes on

@janoskovacs11

9 күн бұрын

Stop whining and go to your room! 😂

@lsmocyclist

9 күн бұрын

@@janoskovacs11 free speech...go buy one if you love it

@Martyvison

8 күн бұрын

Subaru is for pride month people

I'm guessing the opposite on the dual exhaust for the hybrid. I'll predict there will be no visible exhaust pipe, and the car will have both arches filled with that plastic element.

@KirkKreifels

10 күн бұрын

NOOOOOOO gosh NOOOO

A 2014 Ford Explorer to be exact 😣

I live in naples myself, i just got my new red 24 brz last week. So if you see one zipping around its most likely me

@KirkKreifels

10 күн бұрын

congrats!

Awesome

Kirk, not related to cars. But where did you get you back pack and water tumbler ? 😅

I can't get over the 2013 explorer front end. I just can't .

I thought that was a Ford in the thumbnail

the analog gauges are great in the far north. Those digital displays get slow/dim when its super cold out. But it would be great if Subaru put a bit more digital space between and below the analog gauges to make that info a bit easier to configure and see.

THE 2025 FORESTER WILDERNESS IS THE OLD MODEL UNTIL THE NEW BODY STYLE IS READY

I pray to car gods that this is is not what the redesigned rav4 looks like. I mean it looks good but I’m just afraid since both share same platform. At least have decency to put crown like hammerhead design on rav4 with some modificati9ns on the back and sides.

As I’ve said before the release to recline the rear seats is located where the cushion and seat back meet at your outboard hip area.

@tinker1148

10 күн бұрын

It’s a nylon strap.

I ordered a White Sport model ( Canadian...LOVE the bronze wheels!! ). It wasnt a big premium over thet version down. Hoping to get it later this Summer. This re-design makes it look very different from gen 5. It is much more mature, conservative, no nonsence. I own a 2011 Outback, & opted to buy the 2025 only because I think its time. The 2011 was certainly the best car ( owned Benz's, Hondas, Mazdas) , in terms of quality, fit & finish, fuss free, that I've ever owned. I hope the 2025 is just as good as my 2011 Subi

What was the worst car sold in America? Subaru 360 (North American version) (1968-70) The first Subaru model sold in America, the 360 had an MSRP of $1,297 and was marketed with the slogan "Cheap and ugly does it!" The 360 was a commercial failure in North America. They haven't improved much although the price did go up dramatically.

Can't wait until the hybrid makes it debut. Otherwise, I like this vehicle. But, in Colorado and mountains, it's a hard sell for the ice even though there are thousands here in Denver.

I really hope the electric motor in the hybrid system will have more than 17 hp, that seems like a joke. Empty, it's not punishingly slow, but with people, luggage and some elevation it will struggle, so the hybrid will have to compensate. I think around 30 or more hp from the electric motor will be enough because this vehicle it's built around a price point and it can't get too expensive.

Kirk, What a coincidence! I could swear we were just discussing the UGLY REALITY that far too often these days the price of 'affordable', mainstream, middle of the road, compact CUVs is hitting and exceeding $40K. 😉

@KirkKreifels

10 күн бұрын

$34k for the premium Forester is the answer.

@0HOON0

10 күн бұрын

2024 premium models currently going for $30k even.

@rightlanehog3151

10 күн бұрын

@@KirkKreifels 🤔

2024 model was better. It also way more affordable. My parents were able to get a brand new 2024 premium for 33k taxes and fees. We had some packages added like USB ports and led lights in the cabin. There was also the homelink pacakge.

@KirkKreifels

10 күн бұрын

Don't be surprised to see discounts on these in a year

What about the TCValve, excessive carbon buildup, and multiple problems????? Has any been addressed finally for 2025????

@KirkKreifels

9 күн бұрын

Tcv no longer on the 2025 Forester

@arielamorales7408

8 күн бұрын

That plus the easily cracking windshield issues.

If anything, go for an outgoing 2024 Forester and save a lot

😎 Cool Video 😎

I'm with you about getting the Premium model as the best value. I do wish it did not have a sunroof standard. But, I'm probably in the minority.

I really want to ask Subaru... if you want a repeat customer, why would I want to trade-in my wife's 2014 Forester XT for this??

@0HOON0

10 күн бұрын

Sounds like a Mazda CX-5 Turbo might be what you're looking for.

cvt is trash and having to use the touchs creen to control the a/c is a horrible design, i refuse to buy any car with that going on

Kirk, What Do You think about the 2025 Forester Sport, Blue with Black interior? Worth the Money 💰?? 🤔🇺🇲😎

Crossing fingers redesigned (2026?) Outback showcases Subaru’s next gen driver gauge cluster and infotainment system…and that it rolls out quickly to every car in the lineup, Forester included.

second bumper cut out maybe a forester XT :O subaru plz you sway me away from acura

Good price considering the competition

Looks like a good alternative to the Rav4 Adventure.

Subaruuu❤❤❤❤

With all do respect, who cares the 0-60 timing. That’s a well designed family car. I don’t want to show to my family how fast the Forester drives. This is something that almost every car evaluator brings on and I find it unnecessary. So is not only you Kirt. I really enjoy your reviews. You are one of the best.

@Gopinathk17

10 күн бұрын

0-60 matters sometimes. Also, the looks.

@ericpizarro3084

10 күн бұрын

@@Gopinathk17 Ok bro, then if the 0-60 and the looks matter then check out a Lambo or a Ferrari or any of those nice car 🚗. I wish I could have have one of those but, for now I will stick to my 2021 Crosstrek Sport. If I ever have money to spend like that then, I will still buy the Forester 😀😀👍

@Gopinathk17

10 күн бұрын

​@@ericpizarro3084Most of the other cars in the class are faster. But anyways I respect your decision but it's not for everyone. It looks you have no idea how Rav4 or Crv hybrid and CX5/CX50 Turbo etc drives.. they are much quicker and smoother.

Very nice vehicle, but for 2024 forward they continue to be woefully behind on hybrid and full ev offerings. Full pass for me.

Subaru knows their target customers i.e. people who are outdoors types or live off the beaten path. Those folks don't care about the car having a rather sleepy engine. My brother is a case in point. He does in fact "out there" and is currently driving a Subaru Crosstrek and has had a Forester and bought his grand daughter a used Forester when she went to college.

The best part...still Made in Japan 🙌6:15

I was a big Subaru advocate but...as of late ...not so much

Subaru did make a few changes/updates to the engine.

@KirkKreifels

10 күн бұрын

two less hp, two more lbft...yippie!

@yippie6862

10 күн бұрын

@@KirkKreifels According to Subaru, the engine makes more of its power at lower rpm, so it feels punchier off the line, and many of the engine's parts have been updated to make the engine more efficient, more reliable and lighter.

9.25 seconds. Dangerously slow

@KirkKreifels

10 күн бұрын

Technically it was 9.26s to 60 hahaha

@realtalk5931

9 күн бұрын

@@KirkKreifels I can’t imagine having this vehicle full of passengers getting onto a highway. Cmon Subaru.

I can’t believe that Subaru finally made not an ugly AF car

Great car, I just wish the front end didn’t look like the last generation Ford Explorer. I think the wilderness package will definitely look better.

......................................... NOPE!........ CLearly did NOT Tick the Gucci Box....Not even close!

I was looking foward to this Forester. Unfortunately its a huge disappointment. It looks dated. The interior and exterior. The worst is the price increase. Subaru you can keep telling me its old all new i beg to differ. You use the same interior in all your cars

I can’t get past how they are baking a majority of climate controls into the touchscreen. This is a very lazy way to boast a big screen

not sure why you accelerated uphill

@KirkKreifels

9 күн бұрын

LOL Florida is flat everywhere. .2% grade is imperceivable

I think Subaru push the guages further apart & add an 8in display between them like Audis used to have before 'virtual cockpit'. It would keep the classic look but show way more information & look more modern.

Subaru is proof that the whole “we can’t have good visibility due to safety regulations!” argument is a lie. Glad to see a vehicle with good windows/visibility.

Engine: there are differences for 2025.

@KirkKreifels

10 күн бұрын

Less HP and a tad more torque. Nothing to see here.

@natecurrier

10 күн бұрын

@@KirkKreifels yes, but it’s worth mentioning, Kirk. “The four-cylinder makes 180 horsepower and 178 pound feet of torque, and peak torque comes in a lower rpm than before, so even though it’s down on power, it should feel more responsive.”

A beautiful vehicle but a bit pricey

Trying to correct the weirdo look but cheesy CVT , underpowered base engine, crappy resolution LCDscreens along with gauges from the early 2000s are making it a poor choice and no it can't be misclassified for toughness and niche as Subbie tires to make us think . It is just cheap and cheesy in design choices and execution. No thanks

@Hallowsaw

10 күн бұрын

And yet subarus outlast toyotas and hondas these days. Also cheaper to maintain

@kdomster9141

10 күн бұрын

@@Hallowsaw Lie and you know it . Have friends with Subbies and they have lot of problems . Rough and primitive does not make it tough as Subbie is marketing itself as a brand . Pick normal solid transmission, take one from ASIN Toyota brand , same with engine if you can't come up with better design than way overrated and often unreliable "boxer" . Design and looks are whole another can of worms but I can understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and fanaticism often blinds so people write how awesome is their CVT , this year just improved version is the best one ever made forgetting that "best" CVT is still worse than average automatic with proper transmission gears . CVT is cheap and that is the big reason why Subbies and Nissan are using it and savings are not passed on to consumers. Why not have 3000usd sticker CVT discount? Be honest Subbie . It would stop their romance and would bring proper transmission, and they have it at ASIN Toyota if they can't design one like Mazda does. Before Mazda had their own they did borrow one from Toyota , unfortunately also did from Ford for 626 but those days are long gone and thank God .

@davedavis2208

10 күн бұрын

Damn you sound angry about the new forester , nobody is forcing you to buy it so chill out ! It's perfectly fine

@kdomster9141

10 күн бұрын

@@davedavis2208 Just don't like to being soooooo overrated and lacking much needed criticism.

@wheresthepictureidk2817

9 күн бұрын

All true. The AWD system is really the only thing Subaru has going for the brand. If you don’t live in a snowy area there is no reason to buy a Subaru over the competitors.

F U G L Y

Comfort Luxury Premium Basic for every familie Basic for every familie The Experienced Explorer Type, Type, Type, e-BOXER motor 2.0 e-BOXER motor 2.0 e-BOXER motor 2.0 Max pulling weight 1.870 kg 1.870 kg 1.870 kg From € 65.224,00 From € 68.724,00 From € 73.224,00 these are the prizes in the Netherland 2024 model the hybrid part not the same as Toyota on design

CVT doesn’t last very long

Forester провалился в Европе из-за отвратительного гибридного двигателя 2,0. Outback прекрасно продается на классическом 2,5.

The "slot" you touched on the frond wheel housing is to allow air to escape and give a bit better handling at high speed ... That is important !

I have a 24' Touring model...........Liked My 2013 far better..........way too many electronic do-dads in My new one...IE.....Mirrors that point at the ground when I attempt to back up.........Worst Back up camera I've seen yet ...Cannot see into shadows.......Tooo many warning...both audio and visual........Disgusting start/stop.........Auto braking which brakes mostly when not necessary.......Emergency braking which will scare You half to death first time You attempt to park in a short garage......Eye sight bullshit which I keep turned off....Doesn't work anyway in My small Town.......I am 81 and never leave Town..........I will trade in a heartbeat for something simpler/More old fashioned..........I've always wanted an electric....BUT.....It must be simpler/Old style stuff and forget the 0---60 nonsense...And the race car tires...IE.....40 series ETC...........Cars are pushing Us Drivers away and taking more and more control away from Drivers...........I'd be happier with a refurbished 1980, Except that I've long wanted an EV.........The only one that appeals to Me is Rivian's proposed R3.........But it would have to be $35k out the door..........I'm way too stubborn to pay Extra for Electric.......AND...I live on SS/Don't pay taxes and never have qualified for the rich Mans Deduction........................Paul

That is just ugly!

Cvt is a dealbreaker for me. 100k miles if you’re lucky? No thanks.

So damn ugly. They don't make a good looking Subaru anymore

Incredible Subaru still has crappy CVT and bad fuel economy. Like they are trying to die.

You really are reaching when you said the word luxury and I am a Subaru owner