I don’t have a Ridgeline, but when people say Honda is not a truck I disagree. Honda just did what Ford did in the 60s, they built a truck. Ford had a full size truck that also was unibody in design. Even the new Ford Maverick is a truck. Trucks come in all different sizes, so by calling the Honda not a truck is as a Semi driver calling a F150 not a truck. I have owned small trucks and HD trucks for many years, I currently own a ZR2 Colorado. Trucks are absolutely one of the necessities that we have to have. Truth is, the Honda offers 80-90 percent of what most people need. Most people driving around bro-dozers just hauling air. I think Honda has a good truck for what’s it’s used for. Not a hard core off roader but will definitely go off road, and haul what most people haul around to and fro from the typical stores. If you ever have traveled out of the good old what’s left of the USA, you will see that most countries use midsized trucks such as the Honda or other makes. Nobody drives around bro-dozers for show. Trucks are actually used for the main designed purpose.

@plmn93

Ай бұрын

The runaway success of the Maverick has proven that the Ridgeline's problem was never that it wasn't a "real truck". It's that people expect a price and economy advantage in a unibody truck, and those are things that Honda has never delivered. And full size trucks are more popular in the US than midsizes for largely the same reasons. Right now you can get $11000 off a full size truck with low interest financing. That makes the actual cost comparable to a midsize. Midsize trucks do not offer a large fuel economy advantage and the sheer size of a full size is not much of an issue in the vast majority of the US. But you get WAY more power, comfort, space, and hauling capability in a full size. That is why they are popular, not because of some sort of "bro-dozer" complex, which is a rather ignorant implication. If you don't think most people actually haul stuff in their trucks, I'd suggest you try shopping for used ones and let us know how many pristine ones you find.

@Marbind

Ай бұрын

​@@plmn93 meanwhile the ridgeline has the best MPGs in the segment in real world tests. Fuelly reported numbers and TFL latest midsize truck comparison test the RL made the highest number. It also depend on the owner lifestyle too. A maverick doesn't for me. The storage options offered in the ridgeline has no match and used them completely. The trunk alone is a big compromise in my case.

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

You spelled suv wrong

@plmn93

Ай бұрын

@@Marbind That TFL test was against trucks with bigger and beefier tires and more ground clearance. Also, the difference between the Ridgeline and the next two was negligible and the Ridgeline would lose to the turbos in purely city driving. Glad you like your Ridgeline, they are nice trucks and there are certainly many valid reasons to buy one. But my point is that the reason it has never sold well has nothing to do with it not being a "real truck". It's because it doesn't offer enough advantages over the "real trucks" to overcome its deficiencies compared to them. The Maverick does. It has more interior space than most midsizes, is way more efficient, and costs a lot less. Yeah it's not as capable and not for everybody but Ford nailed the market while Honda has been stuck in a niche for nearly 20 years now.

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

Ford only made those trucks for 2 years, if that tells you anything…

I shopped these 2 vehicles back in January 2024 and the Ridgeline was the better value by far. The Frontier was my first choice based on looks and previous experience with a 2013 Frontier. But, the Frontier (SL model) disappointed due to the smaller interior, partial leather interior (maybe 40%) and lack of seat adjustment/comfort. Side-by-side the Ridgeline offered more (room, features, build quality) and the price was nearly 3K less that the Frontier (RTL-E vs SL). Another comparison review that will help others comparing these two vehicles make the best choice.

@MTG9878

Ай бұрын

It is if you want a car if you want a cspable off road truck its the frontier

@DB-sd3cw

Ай бұрын

I was really interested in the ridgeline but after daily driving a 2020 Civic Si for 4 years, I will never buy another honda product again. Honda build quality is just not there anymore. Super fragile interior bits that can be ripped off by accidently grabbing the wrong way, creaks and rattles, AC going out multiple times and recalled finally (every honda I've owned has had AC problems), problems with the electronic steering rack clicking and sticking which honda refuses to recall, infotainment going black and having to constantly be reset. Can only imagine the ridgeline to have similar issues as honda hasn't changed or restructured anything within the company.

I prefer the Ridgeline and it has extra features that the Frontier does not have beginning with the rear vents

Storage on Honda -that trunk- has me sold on it. Also, better steering and MPG.

@Marbind

Ай бұрын

Storage options in the ridgeline are the best in the segment. I throw all my paddle gear in the trunk including life best, snacks, etc. Then load the paddle boards in the bed. Also under seat storage is massive too, wide open with nothing in the way like the others. Fold those seats up and nothing in the segment comes close.

@victorvenze7371

Ай бұрын

Agree, the locking in bad storage is a great idea.

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

Why is that trunk marked through?

@Blue-moon12

Ай бұрын

So you didn't need a pickup then

I"d have to go for the Ridgeline. I never leave paved roads, but do need the occasional hauling and towing. The superior ride, handling, and reliability of the Honda is a win.

Looked at the Frontier, Canyon, Tacoma, Ranger, and Ridgeline. Got backed into a corner this week when my transmission crapped out on my Silverado and pulled the trigger on a new Ridgeline yesterday. It just felt like the best option to me. I couldn't wait due to my Silverado dying, so I had to settle for the in-stock RTL model instead of ordering the Trailsport or Black Edition.. but the RTL is still a solid value.

I’d do the Honda

Had a Ridgeline. It towed and hauled for me every single week. Put 180k trouble free miles on it before getting rid of it. It’s a fantastic city truck.

The frontier’s payload is a head scratcher

@myplaxismodelisbetterthanyours

Ай бұрын

Lol, it just depends on the trim, how many wheels move and what time of day it is

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

Payload numbers are just suggestions

@plmn93

Ай бұрын

@@Policearegood-mt6kx No they are not, they matter. If you exceed them you risk legal consequences in an accident and your insurer may not pay for damages.

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

@@plmn93 all I’m saying is every truck will haul way more than the “payload” number they list.

@victorvenze7371

Ай бұрын

To get the Frontier to ride with any thing close to a modern vehicle, Nissan has to give it a wimpy suspension to get a decent ride, hence the payload of a Nissan Versa.

I waited for the 2024 Ridgeline, expecting a major upgrade like the latest gen Pilot.... it didn't happen, same old truck, similar to my Odyssey. I went with the Nissan due to V6 and 9 speed. The 9 speed is a Mercedes design unit, made in Japan and used by a number of brands. No regrets.

@Marbind

Ай бұрын

The 9 speed found on the ridgeline was designed by ZF and used by multiple brands too. It also uses the trusty Hondas J series V6. Considerable faster acceleration than the Frontier, considering that on paper the Nissans engine is more powerful. If those were your reasons, you made a mistake.

@dennisclouser3458

Ай бұрын

@@Marbind The ZF was a stop gap measure by Honda, until their own 10 Spd is up to capacity. It's used by GM mainly and doesn't have a good reputation. They'll sell it to anyone, Mercedes won't. I traded in a Ridgeline on the Frontier....not missing it. The Ridgeline is slightly faster, but the Frontier can tow more. The Ridgeline is perfect, like a Maverick for Saturday morning home depot runs for mulch.

A ridgeline is a truck, my 2011 has a payload of 1497 and it is designed to carry cargo.

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

You spelled suv wrong

@Spoolingturbski

Ай бұрын

It’s a SUV with a bed. Not a truck.

I now owned both trucks. If I didnt want a truck with body on frame then I'd have gone with another ridgeline. I feel Honda fixed the car like front end and ridgeline has so much to offer. I do like the new nissan pro 4x I have. It's a very nice truck to drive. It's planted, it tows my utility trailer with lawn euipment well and stereo rocks. It also has a lot of nice features. I really do like the smoothness of the ridgeline though. It does drive like a car...which is actually really nice.

The Pro4X’s lack of payload at 1,080 is a deal breaker for me. The Ridgeline is more capable for my needs with 1,477 lbs of payload. 400 lbs more payload. Wow!

@pnwdweler4100

Ай бұрын

Get a Honda Odyssey, it’s the same vehicle and it has a built in truck shell.

@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN

Ай бұрын

​@pnwdweler4100 the Ridgeline is a Pilot with a bed...

@deanmay338

Ай бұрын

@@pnwdweler4100 I currently have a midsize SUV. It is fine most of the time hauling camping gear, but at times camping gear can get wet, dirty, etc. A midsize pickup truck makes more sense than a minivan or an SUV. Did the minivan when the kids were little 2000-2009. It was great! I want a midsize truck that can handle about 1,500 lbs of real world payload. Based on my research, the Ridgeline, the Ranger, the Colorado/Canyon, and Gladiator (with the Max tow package) can do that. Despite being great trucks, the Frontier and Tacoma cannot do that.

@jeremyclark8626

Ай бұрын

@@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN It's it crazy that a Honda Minivan is more capable at hauling than a body of frame truck from Nissan.

@JAT922

Ай бұрын

For some reason the Pro4x payload is considerably less than the other trims. The SV is over 1300 lbs.

I really want to love the Frontier. I drove both and I don't think I can drive in the Frontier for long. That payload always seems low to me, as well. Still a great truck, though.

Nice to see the Frontier getting some love.

I have a 2022 Frontier pro 4X and I absolutely love it. Not a bad thing to say . My dog says the back seat could be bigger and more treat holders but he doesn’t work so tough.

I have a ‘23 Frontier Pro4X and I love it. I haven’t ever been a fan of the Ridgeline. To each their own, though.

Can’t beat a ridgeline.

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

A real truck can

@n0xxm3rcyxx

Ай бұрын

but the nissan did.

@mitchellc2723

18 күн бұрын

@@n0xxm3rcyxx Damn, look at that seriously low payload rating on the Nissan.

@n0xxm3rcyxx

18 күн бұрын

@@mitchellc2723 good thing I'm not fat.

Ben, you spend alot of time to bring us this content. Keep up the great work

@1:57 lol easter egg ... atleast peeps are watching vid right lol ... awesome review both are kool and both have there own spot in market. if anyone can get a discount they are a steal but with standard msrp price I would bypass straight to a full size. ty for taking the time to make this one.

Ben Hardy, I liked this video because it's awesome!

I got 2012 ridgeline with 179,547 miles … still going hard , but I m also like the Nissan hard body .. and at the same times I. Thinking of the car payment..

Frontier is my choice between the two! 👍

I waited for a 24 Tacoma for 3 months....... that never came. I checked out a Frontier and it was just too crampy. I ended up with a 24 Ridgeline. This TRUCK with 1542 payload compared to the Taco or Nissan with their 1200 or 1100 payload ratings (4x4) is way better. It is way more roomy that the Nissan, at least that is what i felt having looked at both ? If you just need off PAVED roads for the 4x4 thing then go with the Honda, or if your towing is in specs for it.

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

You spelled suv wrong

@bwhit707

Ай бұрын

@@user-vt9ss3ft2z LOL ok SUV with a bed. IDK, and I have had alot of trucks, 3/4 ton mostly. I did have a sweet spot for the 21 Taco I traded. Great truck if I wasn't towing. Yes the Ridgeline has lower tow rating but much higher payload. That is often overlooked. I was over on the Taco or about even when towing. As far as off road, my uses- I never used low 4. As for hauling things I can haul more in the Honda. Isn't that a trucking thing? Thought so. Plus im getting old and i like the SUVs ride.

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

@@bwhit707 higher payload with a useless shallow bed that everything will fall out of anyway

@bwhit707

Ай бұрын

@@user-vt9ss3ft2z I have carried lots of stuff in that bed and that hasn't happened and never will; now I have extra payload after hooking up the TT with its tongue weight. The Honda pulls it better too. It does everything I need better than the Tacoma. No remorse on this one.

Waiting to see what the 2025 frontier is like

@n0xxm3rcyxx

Ай бұрын

i have been waiting eagerly when will it drop?

@Blue-moon12

Ай бұрын

Most likely no changes. Current ones are great.

@tdog9683

Ай бұрын

@@Blue-moon12 already confirmed to be changes to the interior and exterior but probably the same engine

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

Nissan doesn’t change much from year to year, hopefully a redesign of the power seat controls to take care of the issue of the seat back being reclined accidentally when you hit it with your leg getting in and out of the truck.

frontier can tow over 6,000 pounds and ridgeline can only tow 5,000 lbs. but to that do ridgeline has to be all drive. front wheel drive ridgeline can only tow up to 3,200 lbs.

Count me in the "old school" Nissan camp mostly because of the way I've used a truck (woodlot, muddy fields etc.) in the past. That said it wouldn't be a Pro 4X but a King Cab SV- the 6' bed would be far more useful and has considerably more payload than the Pro 4X. The King Cab SV reminds me of one of the most favorite trucks I've ever owned, a 1984 Toyota Long Bed 4x4 bought new. Tough as nails (last year for the solid front axle) it would go just about anywhere and haul just about anything. The two things I hated about it were the rear brakes which liked to lock up at the worst possible time and and a body/ bed covered in rust blisters ... not what you'd expect on a three year old truck. Nissan seems to be the only maker to be paying attention to making an "affordable" midsize truck though I still have trouble thinking of a $35,000 truck (Frontier King Cab S) as "affordable".

I like my frontier but there is a design flaw with the drivers side power seats. When you get in and out, your leg hits the switch that moves the seat back. You don’t notice it when it’s happening, but eventually you get in and your seat is leaned way back.

@Blue-moon12

Ай бұрын

Not had this happen on mine.

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

@@Blue-moon12it’s a very common issue.

@JohnWalsh-qw5sh

Ай бұрын

I am 6’1 and this has never happened to me. I have had mine for a year now.

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

@@JohnWalsh-qw5sh it’s a well known issue. A lot of people even thought the seat was moving on its own.

I had a 22 black edition and traded it in for a frontier Pro4x, but after a year with it im going back to a Ridgeline, not that the frontier is a bad truck i love the thing, but you cant beat the convenience of the ridgeline for daily use.

Both I love, haven’t decided between these two to buy next…which is better, overall?

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

If you want a real truck then the frontier, if you want to feel like you're driving a soulless lackluster car then ridgeline

@shaniyoung6506

Ай бұрын

Ridgeline for storage, smoother ride and better handling while the frontier for more towing, more payload and an oldschool trucky ride quality if you are a real truck enthusiast

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

@shaniyoung6506 not true on the smoother ride. As a unibody you will feel more bumps because it transfers through the whole vehicle just like ben said in the video. Body on frame is actually smoother.

@mikem-pf3zt

Ай бұрын

Just needs to be able to tow a 15 ft boat

@owequitit

Ай бұрын

@@user-vt9ss3ft2zno it isn’t smoother. The Ridgeline is one of the smoothest vehicles I have driven, and I’ve driven a lot. The normal response from truck guys is “wow, this is smooth!” Great vehicle. Rides great, handles great, hauls great. The ability to carry 4x8 flat is very useful.

I have a 23 Pro x and so far loving it, also have alot of good deals on them

@Ben Hardy: I am tempted to buy a Frontier Crew Cab 4x4 Long Bed SV in Tactical Green. Dealer discounting it $2,200 and there is $750 rebate. Brings price down to just above $40k. I have two concerns; lack of rear seat space versus the competition and no LED headlights. What say you?

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

You can get led headlights in the sv.

@plmn93

Ай бұрын

Only you can decide if those are dealbreakers. Nobody here knows what your personal priorities are.

@dohc1974

Ай бұрын

I’ve seen dealers selling used 4x4 sv for $31,800, with under 20k miles. I bet they’d let it go for that out the door too if you’re good at haggling. Save your money and buy used! Don’t be the guy to take the hit as soon as you drive off the lot in the zero miles new truck. I’ve bought new before and regret it.

@riserofevil7656

26 күн бұрын

I'm seeing discounts on Pro-4X up to 9k in my area... these things aren't moving in DFW

@Policearegood-mt6kx

26 күн бұрын

@@riserofevil7656 what dealership has $9,000 off? I’d like to look at them online.

Love the Ridgeline but the 1,000 lb difference in towing capabilities is pretty surprising....

Hi Ben , do you know if Nissan will offer an extended or some type of smaller cab for more bed length? I’m waiting for the 25’s to come out .

@joesteel3459

24 күн бұрын

They currently have a king cab option with a 6’ bed. The crew cabs have the 5’ bed

@cincyoldude5766

24 күн бұрын

@@joesteel3459 , thanks

An important item to many is that the Frontier does not have a telescoping steering wheel to get a better drivers position........

Nissan frontier needs a v8 engine I like v6 they are cool engine

Manual rear window on a 47k truck wow my midrange Sr5 has at least a power window Never really cared for Hondas infotainment screen slanted like that.

Can you throw a full size ATV in a Honda?

Frontier all day. It is the most powerful n/a v6 truck and it is also the most old school feeling truck because of its truck ride and heavy hydraulic steering. It might not handle as well as the ridgeline with its unibody frame but the ride quality is what any truck enthuiast would look for

@AlCasa52

Ай бұрын

the ridgeline is still about 1 second faster to 60mph

@shaniyoung6506

Ай бұрын

@@AlCasa52 Cuz its built on a uni body. If it was built on a body on frame then it would probably have a timing betwwen 7 and 8 seconds

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

@@AlCasa52that’s true, and most people who buy midsize trucks buy them for racing short distances.

@Marbind

Ай бұрын

Frontier Pro 4X 60 mph: 7.3 sec 1/4-Mile: 15.6 sec @ 90 mph Ridgeline Trailsport 60 mph: 6.0 sec 1/4-Mile: 14.6 sec @ 94 mph *Confirmed by multiple outlets Nissan power rating is using seahorse.

@RKDriver

Ай бұрын

I love its hydro steering. Nissan has done a great job staying away from the 4 cylinder turbos and keeping their trucks in their own lanes.

Nissan all day

I’m torn on these trucks… which is the better daily driver?

@shaniyoung6506

Ай бұрын

The ridgeline

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

Only one is a truck

@Blue-moon12

Ай бұрын

I have 2023 Pro 4x. But the Ridgeline is more of a car platform so I am guessing would be the better option. I live rurally and often in the fields so the Frontier is perfect for me.

@victorvenze7371

Ай бұрын

For Daily driving, the Ridgeline is better than any truck, and probably better than most SUVs.

@tonyllaguno4845

Ай бұрын

​@user-vt9ss3ft2z A truck drives horrible. I'd rather have the "not a truck". Calling it a Truck actually cheapens it.

Frontier for the win 🏆

Funny thing is TFL drag race all this trucks and the Ridgeline was quicker than the frontier and turbo taco

I don't get it. I don't see any benefit from body on frame for a mid-size. I don't want that truck feel. I'm going with the quality ride. Team Ridgeline!!

I like the Frontier better. It has a tougher boxy look. The Ridgeline is nice but kinda bubbly femine looking

Both are nice. I considered the Honda, however I went with the 2023 Frontier PRO4X, mine is loaded up.. I love it.

Frontier will have a timeless desgin, I can see the appeal of the Rdigeline if I was an older individual. Glad to see Nissan Stepping their game up.

I would NOT buy the Frontier because it feels like a truck.

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

Then you obviously don't like trucks and don't need one.

@mitchellc2723

Ай бұрын

@@user-vt9ss3ft2z Rock crawling off road, no I don't. That would be the only reason to live with the horrific driving of a truck, a need to rock crawl.

@Spoolingturbski

Ай бұрын

Because it it a truck lol. Ridgeline is a SUV with a bed.

@tonyllaguno4845

Ай бұрын

100% agree. I hate the wiggle and drive quality of "Real trucks"

@tonyllaguno4845

Ай бұрын

​@@Spoolingturbski Honestly, calling it a truck devalues it. It's a compliment when people say it's an SUV with a bed. Lol

Team frontier here! Thank you.

If Nissan had half a brain, they'd drop some money into the Frontier and go directly after the Tacoma owners that Toyota are leaving behind.

@Blue-moon12

Ай бұрын

Makes no sense. Despite the criticisms of the new Tacoma, the fan base is too strong and plentiful. Nissan would be "peeing in the wind". They know their customers, simplicity is what is wanted and capability. The Frontier is just that.

@weirdshibainu

Ай бұрын

@@Blue-moon12 just made my point. Toyota abandoned those same principles

@lordrayden3045

Ай бұрын

@@weirdshibainu Yep, Drop the price a bit, and the frontier could go after and get Tacoma market share

the ridgeline is not a truck its just a unibody cross over with a pickup truck bed

The design of the frontier does look better

Frontier

There is a reason why Honda has never truly been apart of the truck market. Because they don’t built a truck. They put a bed on a Pilot.

Frontier. No question. The Nissan is bolder gray which I have on a Pathfinder. The Honda color has a bit more blue yes! 😂

Less than 1,100 pounds of payload? Guess the maverick is more of a truck this that frontier

Ben looks like a CIA agent that infiltrated some terrorist cell in the middle east 😂

💪💪💪🙏🙏🙏🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴

Ridgeline is a unibody. Thats a hard no for me. Thats not a truck.

@lordrayden3045

Ай бұрын

Yeah…. You’re so edgy there

Ridgeline not a truck

Should have drove them off road to get a full comparison 😊

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

Lol everyone knows the only off roading a ridgeline can do is over a mud puddle, maybe a pothole if you're lucky.

Frontier easily..locking rear as well, looks awesome...the ridgeline looks like the odyssey with a bed..no thanks

The frontiers is a real man's truck ❤❤

@DavefromCA2023

Ай бұрын

🙄

@shaniyoung6506

Ай бұрын

Fax

@Marbind

Ай бұрын

So you need a truck to feel like a man

@DavefromCA2023

Ай бұрын

@@Marbind exactly

@mitchellc2723

Ай бұрын

Sorry about your penis size.

Both are old bro. Lets be honest here.

Only one of these vehicles is a truck.

@stevepatch1809

Ай бұрын

And the Ridgeline has 400 lbs more payload

@luisortiz15

Ай бұрын

Which one the Ridgeline since have more truck capabilities than the Frontier ?

@shaniyoung6506

Ай бұрын

​@@stevepatch1809R u sure cuz I am almost sure the frontier has 1,620 lbs with the pro4x package

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

The ridgeline is a joke. It's an suv trying to be a truck. It's a feminine vehicle and not rugged by any means. It lacks everything a truck should be

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

​@@luisortiz15far from having more truck capabilities. It's like driving a car. It lacks everything a truck should be.

Honda dont make trucks only girl boys drive honda pickups 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Frontier by a mile!

They say that the Ridgeline comes with a tampon in the key fob

@dohc1974

Ай бұрын

Lmao!

@trl1980

Ай бұрын

That comment would come from someone with that @. "Hardwood69"...c'mon, perv.

@JohnWalsh-qw5sh

Ай бұрын

Yes! Typical Ridgeline owners also complain that driving a vehicle with hydraulic steering feels like arm day after the gym

@trl1980

Ай бұрын

Said from a guy with "Hardwood69" as their @username.

@kimberleyweinert5292

Ай бұрын

What a troll.

As someone who has done extensive research on the midsized truck market, I do not think Honda belongs in this class. Its a great pick up, but lacks ground clearance and a two speed transfer case. If I wasnt planning to go offroad, the Honda would be my first choice. You can get them slightly used for low 30s.

The Ridgeline is disgusting!!!! Not even a truck

Nissan>honda

No comparison here. Just sayin'

Can you Snowplow with a Ridgeline...😂

@user-vt9ss3ft2z

Ай бұрын

Nope because it's not a truck

Honda transmissions are junk

@shaniyoung6506

Ай бұрын

Interms of how they set it up yes but it shifts much smoother than nissan transmissions

@jeremyclark8626

Ай бұрын

I'll take any Honda transmission over one from Nissan. Especially their junk CVTs. BTW, the transmission in the Ridgeline is not from Honda.

Frontier