Is the 2024 Honda Ridgeline Trailsport a new midsize truck you should BUY?
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The Ridgeline gets some changes from Honda for 2024. On the outside you will find a refreshed front fascia, grill wheels and off-road tires. On the inside there is an updated center console. Under the hood there is a 3.5L V6 mated to a 9-speed automatic transmission.
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One thing to know as a Ridgeline owner...You have to defend a lot of Ridgeline hate in comments. I love the Ridgeline, so bring it on!
@russelljones2468
Ай бұрын
Yep, there's a lot of truck ego out there. If you can handle the razzing, then it's a good vehicle for most folks.
@Sumehvu
23 күн бұрын
the truck bed features are awesome mostly a gmc truck person but that’s amazing and honestly a pretty good Honda truck
@defender714
10 күн бұрын
put 265 Michelin Defender M/S2's on it for starters. Great truck.
This really makes more sense for many truck drivers in the suburbs. Almost every person I know who drives a truck never tows and never goes off road. For them this makes so much more sense than an F150.
This is exactly what any small tradesman needs! Cheap price compared to full size trucks (1/2 the price in many instances) V6 power and Honda Engine reliability!!!! Great design one of the best vehicles I’ve seen in a LONGGGGG time!!!!
A real, easy to service, lasting V6! Great use of space! Quality seats, outstanding wheels and colors! Door tailgate! Sunroof! This is worth 46!! Outstanding!!!
@russelljones2468
Ай бұрын
We just bought a 2024. The Honda dealers are taking $$$$ off the sticker too. Very happy with our purchase.
@modmatt1
Ай бұрын
@@russelljones2468 Congrats! At least locally around here, they aren't moving off MSRP plus the honda incentives. This looks to be very nice package and worth considering for sure.
@gokusuky253
16 күн бұрын
Where @@russelljones2468
Nice powertrain. Very nice tires. Not a brutal off-road machine but handles snow and mud very well. They improved the styling. Overall a very useful pickup with more pros than cons.
One thing about the ridgeline is that it is the best handling truck
My dad's ridgeline is fantastic and feels premium. Want one of my own
We tow a 23 Ft. camper (4,000 Lbs) using a weight distribution hitch & electric brake set-up with our Ridgeline, the ride is great while towing and it handles the load very well even up steep grades, It,s awesome in the snow, it fits in my garage, enough room for a mechanics tool set in the under bed storage space, great for tail-gating especially with in bed stereo speaker system, It’s pretty fast no F-150’s or any other truck have been able to pass me on the highway, lol
My Favorite Mid size Truck, I'm really love it!
I really like the Ridgeline and yet feel the Trailsport could be so much better! Honda is one of those car manufacturers that goes 7/10ths.... They do some weird things and it takes them years to implement a design or feature that actually makes sense. Look at how long it took them to revise the center arm rest. No real under body protection and not much of an upgrade in ground clearance. Off-Road tires do not make it "trail ready". However...the best part of this truck is the bed design and naturally aspirated V-6. That alone..... But for heavens sake Honda... please BUILD a real Off-Road version of this truck with skid plates and ground clearance!!! Just do it Honda!
Nice truck, Joe. Good capability and versatility, less than $50k.
The last Honda that I owned was 1994 Accord. I feel I could jump in this Trail Sport and everything would be exactly where I remember and it would be very easy to interact with it.
Joe Bro - I hear great things about this baby, a buddy of mine got one > he loves it, he said this new model has everything he needs & of course it's a Honda - reliable w/ good resale value. thanks to you, have yourself a wonderful weekend. tony
This truck is good I was planning to get a f150 after seeing this video I might get the Honda Ridgeline.
@alpe6228
Ай бұрын
Im a honda guy but you cant even compare them lol.If you were planning to buy a truck,you should really get a f150 or else you will be very disapointed by the ridgeline.
@jes3363
Ай бұрын
If you buy an f150 you're going to have to take a bed to the dealership because of so many problems that it doesn't even have crazy the ridge line no problem 300k miles
@johnfranktullo3463
Ай бұрын
You want towing u get a f150 you want a everyday, average joe truck that does everything but heavy towing get a ridgeline
@stevepatch1809
Ай бұрын
It depends what you need in a truck, if you’re towing anything heavy or going off-road get the 150 if you want something that is a comfortable everyday driver get the Ridgeline. The trunk in the bed is great and the backseat space is great for a midsize pickup.
@johnalterio372
Ай бұрын
@@alpe6228 I'm a Ford guy, but I question your logic on what defines a truck for the majority of folks the buy trucks.
Let's go ahead, and let's dive in...to the weekend!
Honda reliability is legendary.
@plmn93
Ай бұрын
Not in this generation of Ridgeline.
@Leviathane
Ай бұрын
I like all the features of these trucks but every time I drive one at work there are so warning lights and error messages on the dash.
@IbHustln
Ай бұрын
I just sold my 2017 Ridgeline with 97,000 miles. It was one of the best vehicles ive owned. Did all the maintenance and it was solid!
@defender714
10 күн бұрын
I got the 2017 black edition. Put Michelin 265 Defender m/s2 on it will make it even better in every aspect.
I have a 2024 Ridgeline Black Edition and it is really nice. It drives so much better than the 2016 Tacoma TRD Sport that I traded in. It is has ventilated seats and AC controls in the back. It also has lane keep assist, so when driving on the highway you can take your hands off the wheel for a while. I have been getting over 25 mpg on the highway. It is a great truck for city driving.
@reyperez3424
Ай бұрын
What’s your speed limit? Them Ridgeline don’t get more than 22mpg @ 75MPH 15mpg in the city Do you get paid from Honda by telling lies
@tycheatham1594
Ай бұрын
AWESOME, that's the exact model/trim I hope to buy. So perfect for my needs and equipped how I desire. 😉👌
@charlesrestivo870
19 күн бұрын
@@reyperez3424I'm getting g a solid 24on highway in econ
@txdino6063
2 күн бұрын
I get 24-25 Mph on highway. 20 in the city
I like it the fact not being turbocharged simple will last longer
Amazing review Joe.
Glad to see so many positive comments about the Ridgeline, seems like a lot of people have come around on it. It’s really a great vehicle for what it it. It’s also what I wish I bought instead of my Ranger, but the price on the Ranger was just too good to pass up...
Good review, as usual. We bought a 2024 Ridgeline TrailSport 2.5 weeks ago. So far, so good. Your evaluation is pretty much sport on. We bought it to road trip to North Carolina from New England. We are impressed with the ride quality and quietness. It doesn’t drive like a truck, more like a decent handling SUV. So far, in mixed driving, we’re averaging (calculated, not by display) 23 mpg. I suspect with prudent application of the accelerator, we’ll see higher than 23 mpg on the highway, if it’s anything like other naturally aspirated Honda’s we owned in the past. So far, 👍👍.
@reyperez3424
Ай бұрын
I get 22mpg at most at 75MPH Cruise control 22 Ridgeline Sport which is lighter than other trims
Looking more and more like a truck every generation
I like it ! 😃. Joe…….have you seen the Twinkie scented candle in Walmart ? 😂
Love my 2019 Gen 2 old guy's truck that's not a truck. So does my brother and friends when they call to ask for a ride home from the dealer while their 'real' truck is broken yet again.😅
Great review Joe! For some reason, after your reviews, I am always hungry for a Twinkee.
Yes of course Joe & I will try to buy this truck.
Cant wait for the interior revamp on this bad boy
Hey joe this Honda Ridgeline this is awesome truck
@RaitisRides
Ай бұрын
I am so glad that you are digging it Mark!
I love the off-road segment!
I still have my 2007 Ridg with 72,000 miles. Great truck. Always dependable. What more can you use ask for?!
Joe and Lori and Steve keep up the good work real true and I love the video 👍
Bought it. Love it.
Ridgeline is a great all around versatile truck. It has become my everyday go to transportation of all my cars and SUVs
Lease was up on my 2021 Yukon. Residual on it was $35k but because it was a used 2021 the interest to finance was 9.5%!! Plus it would have needed an extended warranty and it needed new tires….. I ended buying a 2024 Ridgeline RTL. Black with saddle brown leather interior. I’ve been pleased with it it’s fun and roomy
Honda & Kayce Dutton: “You always ask for too much.”
I really like the RIdgeline and I try to root for it. I do totally agree with Raiti in saying it needs a bigger infotainment center and front facing camera as well as 360 camera I think would help. To me, the dash seems dated compared to other newer pickups. The exterior of the car I really have no complaints.
Interesting new trim level. Additional benefits or changes (Trail-watch system, more ground clearance, Sport mode/Econ consolidation, digital speedometer, etc…) are likely on Honda’s radar to include in future models or new trim levels.
Had 2006 Ridgeline until 2020. I went with good looking “real truck” Toyota Tacoma Off Road in 2020. Just traded it in for 2024 Ridgeline Trailsport. Happy to be back in Honda. Always missed the in bed trunk, massive rear seat storage and car like ride.
I still find the ridge;I ran excellent multipurpose vehicle and I-vtm4 is crazy good in winter. My main complaint is the Schizophrenic transmission if it’s the same I had in my last couple of passports. Shifting was never consistent nor predictable. Around town sometimes coasted nicely, sometimes extreme whiplash levels of deceleration. Sometimes smooth, sometimes harsh shifting jerks.
If this had a 10-12 inch clear would be great. Then had a lower street tune suspension would be cool. I'd probably go street tune since i don't see much mud or snow.
Given that most drivers are not doing serious off road activities so why not buy a Trail Sport and switch out the grabbers for a set of smooth riding street tires. You get the benefits is a smooth ride , stronger shocks and perhaps even better mileage figures. Anyone else agree?
Its good pick up😊
@RaitisRides
Ай бұрын
It really does so many things well.
I believe that color in the video is Sonic grey pearl. Not the Sky blue color.
@tchall8153
Ай бұрын
Was thinking the same. Was comparing it to Modern Steel Metallic earlier this week.
@blakerh
Ай бұрын
Looks grey to me.
@HoangNguyen-gy1ll
Ай бұрын
I didn't see any Blue's clue on this vehicle 😅
@MyJeffrey1970
Ай бұрын
Yah I have 24 Diffused Sky Blue Pearl Ridgeline. It looks like the color of Sky. This not Sky blue in video. Then he says ( 4:28) after it 1 inch higher then standard Ridgline. He must of maid this video months ago before the Ridgline was officially released. Has wrong information. Just notice dealer license plate says December. Remember the press release video he and everyone did inside was the Sky blue Pearl Ridgeline. He got confused. Just notice even the floor mats are not orange like in my 24 TrailSport. He must been in preproduction version like in December. Old video he realsed today for some reason 🤔
Love my 2024 TrailSport Diffused Sky Blue Pearl Ridgeline. Your in this video is not DSBP, probably sonic Gray. My didn’t come with 1 inch lift like your video says (4:28) My floor mats came with orange Ridgeline color not gray.
Not bad looking.
@JohnSmith-lc8mp
Ай бұрын
The old model looked goofy. I really like this newer look.
It’s looks a lot better in proportion and the one thing I didn’t like was how the bed looked on older models
Drove an RTL today. I'm more interested in the Trailsport but they didn't have one in stock. Really nice truck. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna downsize from my 2017 Silverado in the next week or so. Just gotta track down the color I want. I've had an Avalanche, and two Silverados since 2004. They all had reliability issues. Time to jump ship on Chevy.
@jakes5530
Ай бұрын
You wont be disappointed, this is tried and true
@randomstuffwithjoe
Ай бұрын
@@jakes5530 I'm already disappointed. There's an indefinite "stop sale" from Honda due to a safety recall. You can't even buy a Ridgeline right now. I'm being told it could last thru the summer. I'm bummed.. I was planning to buy this week and now I have to look at something different.
I want one soo bad !!! 🔥🔥😍
Given that the bed is of composite material, is it possible to place a rail system? Similar to the utili-track system found in the Nissan Frontier or have a DIY rail system as in the Ford Macerick?
Great truck! The interior needs a little updating, not a big fan of the push button transmission, all in all still a great vehicle that checks many boxes!
Appreciate the off-road segment.
@RaitisRides
2 күн бұрын
Thanks! I try to bring it all.
This and Nissan Frontier are the only V6 left for mid size truck market... I was gonna get Tacoma but made in Mexico and turbo 4 made me stay as far away as possible from it.
@JohnSmith-lc8mp
Ай бұрын
I feel the same. Id take a v6 from nissan vs any 4 turbo. Hopefully they will be reliable but i just do not trust turbos for long term use.
Only issue i have with my 2021 is spoiler on truck lid pulls out of its mounting points
my Ram was a Wagoneer with a bed.
Mode selection isnt confusing In real world its fine .The ride and smoothness over shadow any small nit picks
I would like to see this Honda Ridgeline come with a back scratcher in the pocket behind the front seat passenger.
@drift3rkid66
Ай бұрын
😆
@587G
Ай бұрын
LMAO, c'mon man it's a great truck, but I like your sense of humor.
I'm not sure what we are meant to do with the space "freed up" by using a push button gear selector. Set a pie on the middle console so I can snack on while driving? 🤔 Use it as a center seat for another passenger? 😵💫 I would just prefer a traditional handle on the gear selector. I hate my Mercedes' gear selector too.
Legendary Honda
all models have the same ground clearance, the trailsport is not higher.. you can have the back up camera in full screen mode. you did not have it in full screen.. the Black Edition has HVAC controls in the rear and usbc ports in the rear.
Honda is inching ever closer to making this desirable - it finally looks like a truck. Some odd decisions - full LED is an easy win (or loss), not sure why Honda couldn't prioritize these few extra pennies on a vehicle that never was lacking in being a good car, but always has been lacking in desirability. It's still hard to really imagine this being used for true "truck stuff" (towing, off-road, etc) - but that softer, more suburban niche could be be an interesting - and profitable - alternative to the truck-y competition if they could just get it right. At least it will be reliable, comfortable, and hold its value.
IMO this is really a city boys (lets go camping or jetskiing) truck, first off I absolutely love that lockable storage in the bed with the spare tire as you can fill it with ice and drinks and some food to cook on the fire but it goes downhill from there for me. Its not really a Trail or Offroad pickup so I kind of chuckle with the Trailsport name badge on it. For the same or less price of $46k you can get a 4X4 Ranger offroad or Tremor pkge or GMC AT4 you get full skid plates and offroad tires and lifted and ready to actually go off road without having to buy skidplates extra. (Note - I didn't not include the AT4X or Zr2 Bison or Ranger Raptor etc. as those will be alot more expensive.)
@ferrarriohh
Ай бұрын
Lets be real tho: lots of bros will be just fine w/o all that towing capacity, and will use the tailgating feature more than ever go off-roading
@GPG7754
Ай бұрын
The bed on the Ridgeline is much better than other midsized trucks. Bigger backseat too
@Bowhunters6go8xz6x
Ай бұрын
I agree that lockable bed storage is the probably the best part of the truck.
@jakes5530
Ай бұрын
The only reason to buy anything else is if you routinely tow over 5k lbs, or if you routinely do serious off roading. Most RL owners do not (which is totally fine)
@587G
Ай бұрын
You can also buy a full-size Raptor. Obviously, it's not meant for any of those things you mentioned. Keep rollin on those 35's, I get it being a fellow hunter.
If Honda raised the front end by 2in and the back by 1.5in from the factory I would be sold on this truck. Oh by the way I bought this exact truck and put a small lift on it. now I can do a little offroading with confidence.
@bionicwolf3342
Ай бұрын
What lift kit did you go with? There are a few out there and I’m considering doing this. I also bought this exact truck. Same color and all.
@therues7071
Ай бұрын
@@bionicwolf3342 I bought the Traxda 2in front and 1.5in rear lift. I noticed no difference in ride quality.
@bionicwolf3342
Ай бұрын
@@therues7071awesome thanks for replying. I’ll look into that brand.
Interesting. Another online review of a Trailsport. None of the dealers in this area stock them. Mostly RTLs and a couple of Black Edition.
Joe, I can tell you I like this truck. Enough so that I bought one. With that said the technology in this truck is atrocious. For a 2024 Honda it still has last gen Honda sensing equip. It doesn’t have low speed follow for its adaptive cruise control, it doesn’t have led interior lights, no electronic parking break, no brake hold, no speed sign reading, no lane follow, and it’s auto high beam feature is just atrocious. Half the time they won’t turn on, the other half it’s just blinding passing cars. And as you mentioned the backup camera is horrible. Also there is a sport mode, you just press the drive button again, that’s why it says D/S.
@jakes5530
Ай бұрын
I understand your sentiment, but that said the rest of the interior is a massive improvement over the 2023 and earlier. Better screen, wireless carplay, better digital gauge cluster, real center armrest, updated steering wheel buttons, etc. The safety stuff is disappointing, but not necessary IMO, I usually turn the lane stuff off. The rest of what you said are minor inconveniences, not really necessary. Could definitely use a 360 camera though, that’s frustrating.
@kitrocks8058
Ай бұрын
@@jakes5530I mean that’s what I was saying, I bought this truck I love everything about this truck except the safety features.
@kylearmitage9323
Ай бұрын
100% agree, I have this truck as well. I came from a 2020 sonata, I know this truck is 10 times more reliable but i do miss the tech of my sonata
There is a sport mode
is it ok for off road?
Good review with one zonk...the Trailsport has the same worst in class 7.6" of ground clearance as the other Ridgelines.
I had a 21 Ridgeline ... is it the best??? ... nope ... it had issues ... the 9spd ZF is wonky ... MPG wasn't great ... and I know in mine the bedliner (If you call it that) was starting to fade and get blotchy .... though having said all the not-so-good stuff the iVTM-4 could NOT be faulted it is the best I've ever driven ... Thanks Keith Chicago IL
@billseiler4952
Ай бұрын
What did you trade it in for?
@keithkornatoski9162
Ай бұрын
@@billseiler4952 ...HI ... I sold it a few months ago and so far no replacement ...at the top my list (but also the most pricey) is the Chevy/GMC full size pickup with the 3L I6 DURAMAX Diesel ($60K) ... going towards the cheap the Nissan Frontier PRO-4X is a good robust vehicle (that gets really poor MPG) ($42K) ... and the elephant in the room is the Tacoma ... somehow Tacos have become famous overnight and are no longer inexpensive and I'm not really all that ga-ga about any 4cyl turbo motor in a truck. As for the RL being "comfortable" ... yeah but my 2019 RAM 1500 (w5.7HEMI V8) was just as comfortable and hauled/trailered significantly more and "on a good day" you might have seen 20MPG avg on the highway v. 22-24 with the RL .. hope if nothing else this was entertaining ... Thank You Keith Chicago IL
So tired of the pilot with a bed not a real truck bs Yeah we get it Great overall utility vehicle Best not a truck, truck I’ve owned
06 for ridgeline
I heard on the news, thieves are stealing the tailgates from trucks. Are ridgeline tailgates easy to steal? Gonna search now. Wish I got money. If I did I’ll choose a Forrester or this Trailsport
Time for Redesign
Thank God it didn't use the Honda interior, from the CR-V or the Civic or the Accord. This actually looks good, sophisticated, and ergonomically correct.
@ArizonaHotSauce
Ай бұрын
It looks like the interior of an Odyssey from 2018. The interior is long overdue.
@olegklenin451
Ай бұрын
@@ArizonaHotSauce interior is nice, it is funny to see for some people if the front display is not sticking out "it is long overdue"...
@Pauliepsi
Ай бұрын
@@olegklenin451 the iPad on the dash is the antiquated design. People don't see it.
FYI there is no extra ground clearance in trailsport ridgeline 7.64 inches on all trims…unlike pilot trailsport which has 8.3 inches- makes no sense to me!
The problem is you can get a 23 F150 STX 4x4 for the same price. The 2.7L gets the same mileage (epa rated at least). However, Honda usually exceeds their listed highway mileage in real world driving. I got the F150 because of the bigger cabin and slightly better capability, but now I'm thinking I should have gave the Ridgeline a fair chance. Essentially a base F150 or a loaded Ridgeline for the same price 🤔
@olegklenin451
Ай бұрын
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@olegklenin451
Ай бұрын
just make sure you watch the video below before you buy Ford...
Not until when they replace that junk ZF 9 speed box with their own 10 speed as they did to the new Pilot.
@JohnSmith-lc8mp
Ай бұрын
Hopefully in the next refresh.
@reyperez3424
Ай бұрын
10 Speed has issues ZF9 2nd Gen is much better
@jakes5530
Ай бұрын
Both had issues, I trust the ZF9 more than the 10 speed though. ZF9 might have some weird shift points but it’s still made by the best transmission company in the world.
Stupid question can a small plow for a driveway be put on the back of the ridgeline
@587G
Ай бұрын
You probably could find someone to outfit you. Especially if you live in WI with those winters.
@joshburnette9128
Ай бұрын
I live in upstate ny
I like the Ridgeline but not for any type of off-road functions.
No crossing solid lines?
@RaitisRides
22 күн бұрын
Nope
Will there be a HYBRID version of the Ridgeline in the NEAR future??
It's good but it's not for me I go deep wood hunting and this would not cut it just got a zr2
The Ridgeline has been around since 2006
Sure, but make fun of this truck all you like. My friends dodge, I and his Co workers Ford are always in the shop. This thing runs forever.
So this color called blue sky? I thought they called Sony grey Maybe I wrong 😂
@tchall8153
Ай бұрын
Looks like Sonic Grey Pearl.
@MyJeffrey1970
Ай бұрын
Yah he called it wrong color. He also said 1 inch taller the standard Ridgeline. Doesn’t have the orange Ridgeline TrailSport floor mats . I think he made video in December before he got all facts . Just released video today.
Hey old fashioned light bulbs are the way to go...They are cheap to replace....WHO THE HELL WANTS TO PAY $1500 TO REPLACE AN LED TAILLIGHT?
Joe the Ridgeline was first introduced in 2006 shame on you LOL
Love your car video 📹
Time for a redesign Time for 12.3 infotainment in the pilot Time for redesign passport Time for a hybrid option. Come on Honda, step it up
@GPG7754
Ай бұрын
I don't want a hybrid. Keep the V6
@Slim1986
Ай бұрын
@GPG7754 Read!!! I said hybrid option
Way too expensive for what it is. Don't wanna pay extra 10 grand for few badges and different tires
Like armrest in 2021 better
@RaitisRides
Ай бұрын
How come you say that Charles?
These are great for senior citizens, who need a little extra storage to haul multiple cases of Campbell's Soup home from the grocery store when they go on sale.
@user-zb7tg5hi3t
Ай бұрын
You really wasted your time to write that pathetic comment
in 2048 ill own one of these who can afford a car payment
@RaitisRides
28 күн бұрын
That sounds like a plan!
I'll wait for the fully BEV version of the BYD Shark. We are getting screwed, when it comes to vehicles, in the US. Kia also has a new truck coming out.
Funny how grown men think your toughness comes from a vehicle you drive.
So there are a lot of hate about the ridgeline but what about those ugly pos ford merrick or Hyundai cruz or even the ford ranger? I'll take the honda all day with better value and reliability
Great review as always.Bro .....but ...... With that ridiculous transmission......honda should call this the poser package
For years I’ve been waiting for Honda to offer a Ridgeline Dually. Maybe I should just give up hope. Great review as always, Joe!
@jrod237
Ай бұрын
Yes! Don’t let your dreams stay dreams!
Green valve caps. Still bs’n people on nitrogen filled tires huh. 100% pointless on anything but a race car
Crazy to think 7 years ago you could get a 400hp full size truck 😔
@tycheatham1594
Ай бұрын
.....and you STILL can Brian. Dodge, Chevy, Ford, and RAM all still have that option and models. And I know you said "400" but I bet even Nissan and Toyota full-size trucks are close, at least in the high 300's.
I like this new Ridgeline. When I get into my 70's, I might transition from a real truck to this Honda Pilot with a box ( yes, it still is a Honda Pilot essentially). I am waiting on my custom ordered 2024 F150 Lariat. It has a 3.5 twin turbo with 400 hp and 500 ft lbs of torque....and actually gets better Highway and City mpg than this little fella. Not a fan of Honda utilizing Cylinder Deactivation, which was not even mentioned in this review. There are plenty of complaints about excess oil consumption issues with Hondas 3.5 V6 due to cylinders shutting down for non existent fuel savings....did I mention a Ford F150 with 3.5 twin Turbo gets BETTER mpg ratings than this truck? And....it can tow up to 13k lbs if you want to.
@user-zb7tg5hi3t
Ай бұрын
It will be in the shop 3 months out of the year. Congrats
@ringa8600
Ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see what your real world mpg is in the truck. Eco or boost.
@tycheatham1594
Ай бұрын
Hey bud, that's AWESOME you got such a nice and we'll equipped Ford on order..... so I'm definitely NOT hating on it. Sounds pretty badass. I'm just a little confused why Ford F150 is mentioned here so much. That's a FULL-size body on frame style truck....no where near comparison and not even near the same class. It should be compared to full-size Chevy, RAM, Nissan Titan, Dodge, and Toyota Tundra. 🤔 🤷