Decided on our CX 5 because of Andrea . My wife loves her new premium plus. Thank you.

It used to be if it started, and AC worked nothing else really mattered. Now if any part of electronics fails nothing works and you must go to dealer for repair, and they are not equipped yet to turn the repairs around quickly!! When you add all the extras like Car play, navigation and software issues and electric charging problems it will not change anytime soon! The lack of techs will become critical. The younger people coming into workforce do not want to get dirty or sweat, and if they have a tech background, they can work in software or other fields and make way more money for less difficult work.! Great show as always!!!

It’s interesting to see the shift in reliability being based on electronics as opposed to mechanics. Frankly, I could probably deal with glitchy screens and connection issues than failed engine components and other related mechanical issues. I can’t imagine anyone sitting in a broken down car in the middle of the highway saying, “At least my touch screen is super responsive and can integrate Apple CarPlay flawlessly.” 😂

@darcygibbons3836

4 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@TheCaptjamestkirk

4 ай бұрын

Yep! I agree!

@trigs1326

4 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more. Surprisingly Audi was near the bottom and I've had an Audi S5 for 7 years and have had no mechanical issues but I have had the odd issue where the dash is just a blank black screen or one time I had no audio sound coming out. I turn the car off and back on and it's working again and I've never had to bring it to the dealer for these issues!

@brolyvi1211

4 ай бұрын

Unless your hvac is controlled through the screen 😂😂

@housepianist

4 ай бұрын

@@brolyvi1211 True, but at least manufacturers are starting to separate those controls from the screens.

Surprised is an understatement! I’m SHOOK that Honda and Acura are always so low even when considering the 3 years. My Acura turns 10 this year. She’s only needed the basics and is getting close to 200,000 miles. She’s my trusty old gal.

@HelenFire420

4 ай бұрын

Honda and Acura struggles with Technology features in their cars. That is probably the best factor why they are so low on the list, not the general reliability. Also Lexus added touchscreens as an option for people to use instead of the remote touch pad only that year.

@cdbuiles

4 ай бұрын

@@HelenFire420same. most of my Ridgeline issues and complains are related to electronics. Mechanically feels solid. No rattles or squeaks which I love.

@FranklyAlex7

4 ай бұрын

@@HelenFire420 ohh that’s true. My car is pre-tech fails. If I were looking now, I wouldn’t get the RDX because that middle area is just.. overwhelming/annoying.

@Shankovich

4 ай бұрын

Air conditioner system in the 2017+ civics are a major issue

@janoycresnova9156

4 ай бұрын

Honda's reliability has been in a free fall the last decade and a half. It's getting by on its old reputation.

Fantastic content as usual. You guys are truly the best!

Love that you guys drilled down into the details.

Greetings from the First State, Delaware ... I love you guys, I bought my first Buick this year, the Envista Avenir. I love it.

@genericreference6969

4 ай бұрын

That car has gotten a lot of great reviews!

Great Analysis of the report. Thank you both.

The J.D. Power 2024 Vehicle Dependability Study published Feb.8, 2024 pretty much lines up with Consumer Reports "Who Makes the Most Reliable New Cars?" (Nov.29, 2023). It's interesting to note the CR sample size (based on its annual subscriber survey feedback) is about 10x larger than the 31k sample used by J.D. Power. In the Consumer Reports rankings Acura/Honda and Subaru fare much better than J.D. Power's results. A benefit of Consumer Reports rankings is they use a 10-year rolling scale which identifies common problem areas in specific model years. CR also excludes models that fall below the threshold of feedback which more acurately reflect findings. Given that a new vehicle is usually the 2nd most expensive purchase made by consumers, it makes sense that Buyers research information from multiple trusted & reliable sources before making a decision.

@willoverkill8461

4 ай бұрын

Chevrolet is the glaring exception between the two lists, CR has them below the average

@stuntmonkey00

4 ай бұрын

As somebody who used to work in boutique market research and was tasked to to these kinds of indexes from time to time, the difference is in how the information is weighted. That's the secret sauce, ever specialist firm has their "proprietary" way of doing it and the ranking you get depends on which factor you value more in your calculation. I suspect that if the weighting is more towards hard mechanical reliability factors, your list looks more traditional with Toyota and Honda near the top. if you weight heavier for subjective "satisfaction" issues (like how annoying the infotainment and controls are) then that changes. I suspect that JD Power tends to show luxury brands higher than you would expect because that kind of customer is "satisfied" with having a status purchase and that weighs more than what a value customer would care about.

@OhNoMrBill-yg3dy

4 ай бұрын

100% Agree... I've just posted the J.D. Power vs. Consumer Reports "Top 10" comparison with sample size for context. If I were using just 1 source to make my purchase decision (New or Used), I'd go with Consumer Reports. @@stuntmonkey00

@HMAutos8324

4 ай бұрын

Isn’t in strange that every other company that ranks reliability even consumer reports ranks Honda still extremely high but JD Power doesn’t, but ranks Kia’s and Hyundais high that catch on fire and have theft issues, I think JD Power is getting paid by this company’s and is just a bunch of crap.

@OhNoMrBill-yg3dy

4 ай бұрын

It's the nice folks at Motormouth who referenced the 2024 JD Power Vehicle Dependability Study. I use Consumer Reports as the main source of my New Car buying decisions. I've participated in Survey's from both organizations. The main difference is JD Power is a for-profit business that sells its data back to Manufacturers whereas Consumer Reports is not-for-profit and receives zero advertising revenue from Manufacturers.@@japanwatchconnection

Really helpful summary of the new data, thank you. 😊

Great video! Thanks.

I wish they weighed more on the reliability of the powertrain like the engine and transmission vs electronics because that’s typically your most expensive component and electronics can get software updates to fix things that are frustrating. It’s funny too how people are so crazy about the tech cars have, I love my Integra Type S because the electronics are minimal I just throw car play up and have nice physical climate controls don’t know why we need flat screen TVs on the dash now….. and that’s coming from a 24 year old.

Old hat, but JD Power Dependabiltiy is not a mechanical reliability study. The areas that it is evaluating are: body, interior, seats, infotainment, HVAc and features/control, and its collected through survey feedback. The "problem" is that as a weighted index, you don't know what a reported problem constitutes. Theoretically a mechanically reliable car with an annoying infotainment system will score badly if if never breaks down but people complain about it all the time. The second big issue is that these are self-reported surveys. BMW ranking third tells you everything you need to know about the study: if you've ever worked on one you know that it's not going to be more reliable than a Toyota or Honda in the long run, but three years is a short time and *still within the warranty/lease period.* Since a lot of luxury cars are leased their customers aren't thinking about long term cost efficiencies, and will tend to overlook things that would irk a more value-conscious buyer.

@NatureBoy12100

Күн бұрын

There is more to a car then getting from A to B. If the infotainment system is not working, it is just as important to many people as the car running OK. The infotaiment system also controls many safety features as well as navigation. When mine went wonky, I could'nt tell what my speed was as well as where I was going. I rely on navigation daily in my work. So the car should score badly if the infotainment system is not working. . You are wanting to only rate the car reliable if it runs and that is the only thing that should be considered when giving a reliability rating. Years ago this was all you could rate a car on. Today is different.

You guys are the best.

Great info Thanks👍

My 2021 Lexus RX450h F Sport has been absolutely flawless. Thanks for the video.

Thanks a lot for your videos and informations you shared , this video is so useful for me , hope to see you in Toronto car show

This is a very interesting breakdown, thank you for sharing this information 🎉

I'm not surprised to see Honda fall my CRV's were not great, biggest issues was my Honda Dealership didn't want to do anything about it and said Honda is aware of the problem. I think every few years they get complacent and raise their prices over their value.

I may have missed it, but I wish you would have talked more about Honda. I found it really surprising how low they are because everyone thinks of them as reliable as Toyota

@aaronrichards817

4 ай бұрын

Car people have known for awhile now they're just getting by on reputation at this point

@HMAutos8324

4 ай бұрын

Isn’t in strange that every other company that ranks reliability even consumer reports ranks Honda still extremely high but JD Power doesn’t, but ranks Kia’s and Hyundais high that catch on fire and have theft issues, I think JD Power is getting paid by these company’s and is just a bunch of crap.

@ElgenHansi

4 ай бұрын

@@HMAutos8324 The difference is HOW they measure reliability...

@fram4246

4 ай бұрын

Yes, why Honda isn't there. I have 2009 Crv with 168000 miles, the same engine, transmission, still running great. The original brake pads were replaced only after 100k.

@michaelbrohl1625

4 ай бұрын

They are. This list is absurd. Don't take it seriously.

For used car buyers this info is gold.

Great as always, actualy I learn english pronunciation with you.

It's interesting that it should be mentioned that people are keeping cars for longer periods of time. I have a 12 year old Hyundai Accent and have no plans on getting a new one anytime soon, mostly because of the high interest rates.

@ronripley9197

4 ай бұрын

Yes I agree. My Honda Fit will be 17 years old this coming June and I will be driving it until it doesn't go anymore. I do have a 2021 RAV4 XLE Premium and JD Power have been sending me quality rating emails. The biggest problem with my RAV4 is the body integrity (ie rattles, squeaks, interior plastic trim pieces breaking/falling off etc etc. No mechanical or powertrain issues thankfully! 2007 Honda Fit is squeak and rattle free and has been since it was new!

Absolutely agree that for 2035 the government should be looking at hybrid vehicles.

New outro graphics, I like it.

Consumer report's dependability study has completely different brand positions in its ranking, and is considered one of the most reliable and objective ones. Honestly is a surprise to see cadillac and Chevrolet above average, and Honda, Acura and Subaru below average. I don't know.......

Wow Mitsubishi isn't even on the list.

Stunning to see Honda/Acura on the bottom half of this list: Drove that brand from 1984-2000. My how things have changed.

@Fivemonthslater1

4 ай бұрын

Hondas have become problems for a long time now. Toyota is headed that way, too, but denial is strong and people usually rely on opinions from 10 years ago. 🤷‍♀️

@resplendentwitticism

4 ай бұрын

@@Fivemonthslater1I keep hearing people lump Toyota in with Honda slipping, but I never hear why 🤔

@Fivemonthslater1

4 ай бұрын

@@resplendentwitticism Honda has had terrible electrical problems for several years now. Whenever I see a stranger with a Honda, I stop them and ask how they like it. 100% of the time, they say they are very disappointed and they have many electrical problems. It's not a secret, but people hold on to perceived reliability from 15 years ago when Honda was amazing. Toyota is slipping, too, but not as quickly. Everyone I know with a "new" Toyota is having problems. GM is getting better, for example, but people still hold on to the terrible GM from 15 years ago. And so on.

@jamespindera3401

4 ай бұрын

My guess is their all-in adoption of turbocharged small engines. Toyota will likely see the same results unfortunately. Honda and Toyota’s naturally aspirated V6’s were legendary for reliability and good performance, those days are rapidly disappearing. Buy a 4Runner before they stuff a 4 cylinder in it.

@genericreference6969

4 ай бұрын

@@jamespindera3401 yup - gas direct injection

Superb review of a real hot topic. Reliability is an emerging consumer factor now as much as power trains, safety, space, and user interfaces.

Its incredible to me how despite volkswagen porsche and audi being apart of the same ownership, they're incredibly far apart in terms of quality. Same with Dodge and Chrysler

@HelenFire420

4 ай бұрын

I think it’s also that Jeep and Dodge didn’t come out with much these years and Chrysler had literally only two cars. One being the new Pacifica, one of the most unreliable cars in market.

@441meatloaf

4 ай бұрын

Same company but different management. Porsche has their own CEO and management team so does Audi and Volkswagen despite sharing parts, Audi and VW share parts while Porsche shares Audi parts particular the Q5 and such. Porsche is the more expensive brand vs Audi. I guarentee the dependability depending on how its measured AUid and VW ranked low due to cost cutting. Since covid a lot of the models had to remove essential functions due to parts issue and interior was downgraded in terms of some creature comforts. Particular VW Taos is hot garbage.

Thanks for creating great content! I have seen these reliability studies for years and wonder if I can trust these blindly. In my experience, cars start having troubles after the three years mark. Some of the brands on the upper half drop to the lower half past 4 year mark. Lexus and Toyota stay true to their reliability even past 10-15 years. Honda and Acura have amazing long term reliability. Nissan owned brands have problems past 9-10 years of being on road. Ford cars and Korean brands ride mostly features and are least desirable after 160000 kms or 100000 miles.

Always love your episodes! I’m happy with the results. I’m curious why Mitsubishi is not on the list. Maybe because they didn’t have any 2021 model? 🤔

You've highlighted something i don't think I've ever seen or heard before. When one is considering an EV, the cost of a tire change should be factored into the cost of ownership over the first 3 years. Great catch!👌👌

@arbitrary76

4 ай бұрын

It is true, if you make a habit of burning off fossil cars at the lights. On the other hand, EVs use their friction brakes much less due to regen braking, so you should factor in reduced costs for brake pads and rotors.

@Mrnovanova

4 ай бұрын

@arbitrary76 Agreed. I guess I wasn't clear, but I meant in the context of the video, so the first 3 years. I've never had to change brake pads within 3 years, but I don't do a lot of mileage.

@resplendentwitticism

4 ай бұрын

I replaced my tires and the shop said they replace Tesla tires constantly because of the weight and torque

Well today there a lot good car hard to pick we need ( Andrea @ Zack good review (ty Ron )

@andreaspencer9813

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Ron!

Thanks for this. This has confirmed my suspicion that my its time to switch my allegiance to something more reliable.

How does this study correlate with consumer reports data? Love the program

Incredibly interesting and many thanks to you both. Buy something reliable and use it for a long time. Even if it’s a bit older. That is what I am hearing from this video and I say amen to that.

Are all problems ranked at the same level of seriousness? Love your chemistry

@jamespindera3401

4 ай бұрын

Good question. A glitchy stereo system isn’t on the same planet as a failed engine or transmission.

Excellent content as always, I am looking for Porsche Macon's cost of maintenance after 70k miles/112k KM, and wondering your experience since you own so many of them. Thank you,

I bought my first brand new car in March of 2023. A 2022 Subaru WRX Limited SPT. I definitely keep the lane departure warning off, as there are some rough streets on my commute and it's beeping at me for dodging hazards. No thanks. I also never use the lane keep assistance, which is part of the adaptive cruise control. I do love the adaptive cruise control, SI-Drive and other technology in the car. Remote start via iPhone app, and CarPlay (I made it wireless with a $60 dongle) work great. Finally, I like how the screen is better integrated into the dash, and not hanging off the dash like in many newer cars.

Great review folks, will Andrea be getting her Boxster in the Spring? 😊

Here's the thing -- a 3-year-old car now seems pretty darn new to me. I'm far more interested in a 6-year reliability study. Or even longer! My husband hates replacing cars and I have to plan on keeping our cars a long time. We're willing to spend money when we buy cars, just don't want to do it often.

Always enjoy your videos. But I still question some of these studies. I know too many makes, either through personal experience, family or friends, where the reliability just doesn't match some survey. Cheers!

Buick and Chevy way above Mazda seems crazy, haha. And I thought Hyundai was supposed to be more reliable now. Or as of recently anyway

BMW's B58 and B48 are showing to be significantly improved overall and are generally reliable. Gotta love that collab with Toyota they had!

Thanks!

@andreaspencer9813

4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

Very surprised to see Chevrolet that high!

Awesome 😎 video, I love Hybrids + Gas, it's more of the way of the Future.😎🇺🇲

I like that one .... Interesting !

We just traded in a 22 VW Tiguan R-line, 41k on it. Lots of electronic issues. Started with the radio, luckily all on warranty. Loved the car, not the issues. Took a chance & got the same car 2024. So far, so good.

My personal ownership experiences over the last 4-5 years is that Mazda builds better quality vehicles than Toyota does these days. Until Lexus brings the LBX to the USA they can go pound sand, regardless of their ratings.

@ruimanuelcarvalho3432

4 ай бұрын

Crack kills!

People are keeping their cars longer, because new cars are not available and new vehicle mark ups are horrendous.

My 2014 Mazda3 2.5 GT has been holding up well. Bought it at 22k miles and 7 1/2 years on, it's now at 147k miles. Only things that have been replaced is a faulty water pump (it actually didn't present any leaks, but the dealer said it needed replacing and it was replaced under the CPO warranty) at 55k miles and belt tensioners replaced twice. Depending on my driving, I see 29 - 37 mpg on average.

@sailboatlighthouse

3 ай бұрын

Have you ever changed the transmission fluid?

@chimaeraSPK

3 ай бұрын

@@sailboatlighthouse Yes, twice since I've had the car. Replaced at 50k and 120k, respectively.

@sailboatlighthouse

3 ай бұрын

@@chimaeraSPK thank you

@chimaeraSPK

3 ай бұрын

@@sailboatlighthouse Yw.

That’s an informations about some problematic some of the tech stuffs but I am not surprised because some of tech are so new and it’s takes a while to improvement. Cheers! ☕️☕️

@andreaspencer9813

4 ай бұрын

Yes vehicles have changed so much over the years, there's a lot of technology that's been added.

@10OF9OFBORG

4 ай бұрын

@@andreaspencer9813 Exactly! 👍🏻

@arbitrary76

4 ай бұрын

The most valuable new tech is over-the-air software updates, so software issues can be fixed, and new features added, without visiting the dealer. Software is difficult, there will always be issues!

718 S. Amazing car. 1 repair (done under warranty) in 6.5 years.

Great video. I bought my bronco sport badlands in Jan ‘21. So far one of the most reliable vehicles I’ve owned, next to my 13 Flex I traded on it. I now have almost 77,000 kms on the clock. One warranty claim to repair a rubber seal on an aesthetic piece of plastic and a service bulletin on the rear brakes howling in reverse after first start of the day. Good power, the 2 litre is getting 1.5 litre fuel economy and it’s pretty darn good on the trails I’ve had it on. I wasn’t ever a ford guy. In fact I always swore against them. The Flex changed my attitude. I am obsessive about preventative maintenance and do oil changes every 5000 kms. Have done that on every car I’ve owned and regularly send cars off with 300k to 400k kms. With no engine problems. Keep up the great work.

3 years is not that long of a study, a lot of people will only have 30,000 miles or less at that time. Even unreliable vehicles won't have much problems in the first 30,000 miles. You won't find out how reliable they truly are until you get to the 60,000 and up mileage!

JD Power should have a category that excludes tech and advanced safety features.

@i.d.6492

4 ай бұрын

Lmao looks like coppium is hard pill to swallow. Hold that L. They ain't gonna exclude anything juat because you can't handle the truth

I have a couple of Nissans and am very surprised at the low score!

I suppose one thing to keep in mind is a company's reliability can vary over the years. Just because a car had certain reputation many years ago, doesn't mean it is still like that. Does anyone remember the Hyundai Pony?

Cars have simply become way too complex. I feel more than a bit hesitant to buy anything new because of all the unavoidable "driver-assistance" safety features (instead of a push for drivers to actually look out the windows, scan, and, you know... be a skilled driver!). Then there are problem-prone, or simply annoying, features like auto stop/start and cylinder-deactivation for engines that have only 4-cylinders to begin with. Add the growing lack of skilled technicians and sky-high maintenance and repair costs (like those infamous EV battery packs), and, while I'd like something new, I'll somewhat-sadly continue to hold on to my 2001 Toyota while it remains reliable.

Can't wait to see next years report with the new Lexus Interface and Toyota Multimedia system. Lexus / Toyota might remain on top even with the new changes they made as the whole industry is increasing with PP100. Even with some issues with my 2022 NX450h+, I still think they have less PP100 than most. But this Lexus is the most dealership visit Lexus I've ever owned.

Makes me even happier I purchased a 2021 4Runner!!!

Love my 2023 Toyota Corolla hybrid. The wireless Apple CarPlay is super frustrating and fails to work very often. If it wasn’t for that one issue, this would be the greatest economy car of all time.

@resplendentwitticism

4 ай бұрын

Plug it in plug it in

I guess I lucked out. My Audi is a COVID car and had no issues so far. Even my wireless Apple carplay has been flawless.

I own a Lexus RX450 Hybrid and it’s the best car I have ever owned! I been driving for 50 years and have always driven American until seeing Scott Kilmer on you tube. He’s a mechanic that has worked on cars for decades and always ranks Lexus and Toyota the highest. I would say the RX is bigger than a midsize and I get 30 miles to a gallon and have never had any mechanical issues. My only regret is that it took 50 years to find out about Toyota, Lexus.

It's never a surprise to always see Dodge, Ram low on the list but I have the little 15' Ram Promaster City with 270,000kms and still running great! Testament to proper maintenance. Also...love seeing Buick near the top lol

I like how JD Power ranks Honda/Acura down at the bottom and Consumer Reports puts them 4th overall. Something doesn't add up here.

Please review vehicles(car or SUV) rated for the top safety and may be new or old. Which one is best for rear seat passenger especially kids in car seat 🙏

What would you recommend the mileage for a old cars?

I upvoted the second I saw Andrea and Zak 😊

I loved my two Mazda 6 sedans. However, the company decided to mess with their sedan design. Is there something wrong with secure trunks? All the auto industry seems to think so.

surprised by the carnival winning the minivan segment. what happened to sienna and odyssey?

Ram has really up their game specially, the last three years and I really noticed a difference from the older Rams to the newer ones beautiful interiors, and really good quality of product some things like that lacking in older years with ram

It is over $5,000 to get the touchscreen replaced in our ram 1500 limited. We are super glad we haven’t broken it yet.

Yep still driving my 2012 Mazda 3

@glengoogling7597

4 ай бұрын

…and me, still in my 2010 Mazda3.

I’m surprised to see Honda below average! I drive a 2012 Honda civic coupe ex in a sexy red color. Only has 65,000 kms and *knock on wood* have never had any issues. I plan to drive this car until it dies. I love the simplicity of the older vehicles. My husband drives a 2017 Nissan murano… the leather seats are already ripped, heated seats don’t work and interior quality is already chipping… unfortunate for only 80,000 km. I vote early 2010’s vehicles ! ❤ love your videos as always, your are famous in our house

@jillthompson6110

4 ай бұрын

These are 2021 model years, not 2012.

@sopwithsnoopy8779

4 ай бұрын

Honda's 1.5L engine is having a lot of problems right now, and that engine is used in the higher end Civics, and all of the Accords.

@Ryan2Bhonest

4 ай бұрын

@@jillthompson6110 I no :) just was chiming in on the conversation, I was looking into a 2021- but will be keeping my 2012 :)

I know this study and others like it compare a cross section of multiple vehicles and report back on their reliability. However, I continue to hear anecdotal story after story about individuals' personal experience. For example, a co-worker had a Mini that required almost $6,000 of repairs. With the value of the car declining, he simply got rid of it and got a Jeep. I drove a friends Mini years ago and while fun to drive, it felt rickety. She got rid of it not long after. I'm not just picking on Mini. I had THREE Mazdas, ALL that failed me at some point (clutch went out, turbo died and transmission went out on the third). These studies can provide reliability predictors, but driving styles, road conditions, years of service, etc. all impact how a vehicle fares. And I'm STILL not convinced that Buick builds a quality vehicle.

For voice commands: Spend some time with your owner's manual. Once you learn a few phrases it's less distracting than touch the screen buttons. I pretty much exclusively tune my radio with voice commands keeping my eyes on the road.

It would be great for you to do a piece on which factors contribute to overall reliability. Is it innately poor design, insufficient testing, variable quality control from suppliers, problems at the production line, etc? The variability in reliability has always puzzled me. I have a 5 year old VW Gti that has been flawlessly reliable, yet VW rates quite low overall.

hello, judging by the weather where you recorded the video, it’s sunny and warm☀️... where is it? Greetings from 🇰🇿 we are now -30 waiting for spring ☀️

@arbitrary76

4 ай бұрын

Welcome to Vancouver BC!

JD Power should add the thickness of the owner's manual to their ratings. If you need to intimately know the details of a 1" thick owner's manual then you will never be happy with the car. Most people only use a small fraction of the features but every so often some feature (their comments on lane change) makes the driver crazy. Remember simplicity means reliability and complexity means more failures.

@JMotorCity

4 ай бұрын

Don’t buy a Subaru. My 2000 Outback (nice car) had a stack of manuals over 5 inches thick. It was crazy. My ‘24 VW has one reasonably sized book.

I don’t think these ratings are a very fair comparison to how good the car actually is mechanically, because you’re relying on people who may not know how to use their electronic gadgetry in the car, giving it a bad review, so, therefore JD Power is to some degree reporting on the reliability of the owner lol

The Toyota Prius EV is a fantastic vehicle. The Hybrid gets 40 mpg. The Prime (plug in) gets around 100 mpg. Both ises electricity and gas. My all EV is the 2023 Chevy Bolt. It goes hundreds of miles on an overnight charge. It outperformed AWD EVs coating $10,000 or more in endurance. That included a Tesla that came in second.

The problem I have with Lexus is the models I would consider costs the same as a BMW M40i trim. No way I'm choosing Lexus RX/NX 450h over an X3 M40i at the same price point or the IS 500 over the M340i. All we hear is "reliability" from Lexus and that's just not enough to justify that price.

@johnholst

4 ай бұрын

That's a worth while point to bring up! No, BMW is not as reliable as Lexus. But they bring other things to the driving experience that make people buy them. Clearly, this is a consideration, or nobody would buy Mercedes or Land Rover products. But they do!

Is it possible that data is skewed by a few models made by a brand? For instance BMW and Mercedes seem to have problems with 2 or 3 of 10 vehicles. I have noticed it appears that way to me. Subaru troubles with the Ascent...that sort of thing?🤔

@andreaspencer9813

4 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

Chr is still rocking it.

My car is 29 years old, my pickup 23 years oh and yes, I have a 19 year old motorcycle. JD Power isn't worth scut. Consumer Reports is some help but KZread posts like the Car Care Nut, the Car Wizard and Scotty Kilmer are the most valuable.

The study is a bit misleading because while infotainment and exterior dependability are important neither will do anything for you if you're stuck on the road. I'm more concerned about what's under the hood.

Sure, maybe Dodge and Ram have improved, but they damn well better for the price they are charging!! You can't buy a Dodge in Canada now for less than 40 grand. And don't even get me started on Jeep Pricing 🤣 I honestly hope everyone walks away from them at these prices

@bradhewitt6779

4 ай бұрын

Just 3 years ago you could buy a Dodge ram clasic for 30000. Still selling that model that has not changed since 2009 for mid 40000. Thats BS

Yes but what is the dependability study dependability? Always a bit leery of jd power here - not sure what their criteria are here and how big problems and little problems are weighted. Infotainment issues not the same as engine failure

@genericreference6969

4 ай бұрын

@japanwatchconnection cant say I disagree

I once owned a 2014 Sonata with the 2.0L Turbo GDI engine which gave me nothing but trouble and ultimately failed. I understand they continue to use this engine in many current models.

@Spirited282

4 ай бұрын

The Theta engine you refer to perhaps? Santa Fe if you look at reports dating as far back to over 10 years has had the engine issues (seizing up, catching fire, etc..)

@johnholst

4 ай бұрын

Actually, I believe they stopped using that engine in all products. The 2L T in some of the N cars is practically a different engine as it uses a lot of different parts.

This is the last year Lexus is going to be #1 I believe

Very surprised to see how far down the line Subaru has fallen... they seldom change anything on their autos... it would be most interesting to hear what models of each brand that influenced the study the most.

Honestly and with respect this conversation is way more nuanced, model and even engine specific. There has been a major shift away from reliability deliberately for planned obsolescence and greater product complexity. Fewer cylinders, turbos, CVT's, Hybrids with batteries, these are all trends to increase part replacement out of warranty for greater auto company profit. Many of the vehicles on your list for example are NA V6 models of Toyota and Lexus with rock solid 8 speed auto trans with torque converter and the V6 is now virtually eliminated from Toyota/Lexus which is the most reliable engine they ever produced. This is deliberate for profit and the uneducated consumer will pay dearly for those CVT's Hybrids and turbo 4 cylinder cars out of warranty. Caveat Emptor is the takeaway. Consumers step very carefully. Automobile purchase today is a minefield. Never lose sight of why car companies exist. They exist for profit they derive from the consumer and are very clever with their business model.

Only time will tell if these cars stand the test of time - Van Hagar

Do a ten year longevity with real ownership and watch the surprising results.

@TheCaptjamestkirk

4 ай бұрын

Even just a 5 or 6 year would tell you a lot!

where can we see the entire list of manufacturers and models??

@2:20 Least dependable would be from bottom up not top down like most dependable (best at top worst at bottom). You read them both top down. 1)Chrysler-310 2)Audi-275 3)Land Rover-268 4)Volkswagen-267 5)Tesla-252 6)Lincoln-251 etc etc

Funny how JD power doesn’t match up with consumer reports. I know who I trust.

@PaulStephenson-lf2dw

4 ай бұрын

Consumer Reports is the only source I trust. Lot’s of noise out there, but I would not by buy an automobile without it being on the CR recommend list.

@MrPhilaCuse

4 ай бұрын

Imagine thinking Chrysler/Dodge > Honda. Lol @Zack justifying this trash.

@tvted6160

4 ай бұрын

@@MrPhilaCuse I was shocked when they said new dodge and jeeps have improved 🤣 the sales figures say otherwise. But we al have to put bread on the table.