Liked the R9T better. There is something off with the design. The rear seems to be a little on the short side. And they have become more expensive, if I'm not mistaken.

@Nmh2el

Ай бұрын

because its basically a r1200r in a different dress

@samus4799

Ай бұрын

The RNineT is a standard, this is a cruiser platform.

@wickedtwix

Ай бұрын

yea, get the R9T for a retro naked bike and the R18 for a cruiser. For me they both excel in their category and somehow the R12 feels like the worst of both worlds. but I have not ridden it and it might surprise me just as many bikes have in the past.

@dadams1947

Ай бұрын

Correct! The rear fender is bobbed way too short and it looks odd from a side view. BNW chased the cruiser look a little too hard. I have been a Beemer rider since 1975.

@paulwalker797

27 күн бұрын

@@wickedtwix It won't surprise you...I have an R9T scrambler and it feels like a solid classic in comparison with the R12. The R12 feels cheap and plasticky. It lacks substance...I was so happy to get back on my old R9T.

Scott has pimped his camera gear and video editing skills, two thumbs up for that, boom boom!

Wonderful review with every detail covered! Enjoyed every second of it. Thanks for your hard work Scott. I was between Triumph Speed Master and this one, and changed my mind at the very last minute and got myself a R12 a month ago. Never looked back. It is a fantastic bike to ride and enjoy a beautiful day. Cruiser vibe is awesome!!!

Love your reviews. Keep 'em coming!

Your stat page is the best. I always pause it here and read it. I like how you provide metric and imperial as well.

Really like this model bike in many ways. It needs a functional front fender option IMO. Maybe /2 or /5 -style fender option as a take off point for a new-heritage BMW fender style? If it’s like a /5, I would vote for a rear fender option similar as well. If not that, at least some full front fender option with some design roots in the past. This bike with a luggage rack, detachable BMW bags (or some kind of soft luggage option) and a tank bag might be a wonderful, basic experience continent crosser.

Greetings, As always another brilliant detailed video production 🇺🇸🎉🍾🇺🇸 Keep producing more videos

Excellent as ever Scott. Off to Spain (from UK) on my RS on Sunday for 3 weeks. Pray for good weather for me please !

That rear mudguard, oh dear.

@jamesbridgman5223

4 күн бұрын

Agreed. A beautiful bike until you get to that rear fender. I would have to cover that with some saddlebags or something.

Look forward to your roadster review. I had the 2016 R9T Sport; best bike I've ever owned.

Great as always.

I really like the look of this bike. It is very similar to my 1974 R90

Thanks to new R12 I got fantastic deal on my new R NineT Urban GS and I love it! BTW all R1200 models have soul, great engine.

Tolle Videos, ich schaue sie immer sehr gerne! Kein bling bling roar. Einfach ein "Typ", der Lust auf Motorräder hat. Schade, dass es keine Videos mehr auf Deutsch gibt - auch wenn ich das verstehe. Weiter so!

I used the bmw configurator and came at the insane price of 22.600,- euro!

Expensive as hell. As the pure and tracker disappeared from the lineup, leaving only the top most expensive one (my preferred one, to be honest). I tried this one... loved the feeling of it, but as I am not used to feet forward and long(er) gerashift pedals, made me miss the neutral almost 90% of the times.

All nine T looks fantastic.

Thats an interesting bike. Gives me a Sportster 1200 Custom vibe. Have to see one when they get state side.

Building an R12 now (Spain) and I don't see the tachometer option (14:29 in) anywhere, guess i'll check with the dealer. Great review!

Excellent review, Absolutely love this bike , is there going to be luggage for this model? Thanks very much Dean

@NothingToProve

Ай бұрын

Thank you! Well, right now just soft from BMW but there prob will be after market stuff, almost always is...

The r nine t was a cool bike, with the old look. This is just a new pure model for the cheaper entry with new look and marketing. I wish they would make a r nine t with the r18 engine. I think this will coming... thx for sharing, keep on doing your videos. Die Linke zum Gruß

Those R12 bikes are beautiful.

@paulwalker797

27 күн бұрын

Sadly they are, in my opinion, cheap and tacky and way way overpriced in comparison with the old R9T models. I wanted to like it so ride one when I had my R9T scrambler in for a service. I couldn't wait to get back on my scrambler...everything about the old bike felt better, more substantial, better build quality etc

Do the ergo's make it a bike for touring? Has the cruise control +1 but small tank -1.

You have the real spirit of a biker! Your videos are always relaxing and inspiring...well done 👍👍

Thank you Scott for the (once again), interesting video, but above all merits on the work you do in general, for your impressions has a rider, which is, what I value specially. You say that this bike has soul and you compare it to Moto Guzzi kind of soul, in this cruiser style of bike. I haven’t tested this new R12 Nine T, but I’ve already tested the more roadster new version and in that, the quick shifter is fine, better in my opinion than the same device in the GS 1300, more direct, less clunky. The seat felt way more comfortable, and the suspension sensibly more forgiving. It would be a motivation to trade the prior iteration of the bike, if I had this bike only, to do all kind of riding. If it weren’t the case, I wouldn’t trade it because the new bike feels more refined, yes, but also, seemed to lose that soul, that Character of the prior iteration. So, this cruiser version must be very different from her sister and apart from that also less expensive. Can be an excellent choice for the one who appreciate the boxer engine, maybe not so peppy on the higher revs but still strong in the low and medium spectrum of power and torque. A little like Triumph applies to their Bonneville range, the same engine of 1200 cc but different maps, the higher torque and the higher power, respectively on the Scrambler and speed Master, the speed twin and the thruxton?

Maybe it'll grow on me, but i prefer the older R9T. I had a 16 model and customized it a bit, such a cool bike.

I AGREE !!!

Nice! What drone do you use?

nice jacket

Love that colour. Great handlebars. Beefy wheels. Nice clock. Not sure about the size for a 6 feet guy...would love the black with the white rime classic colour. I am afraid it will be expensive to me. Can see V7 last model at 7k or bonnies at 8k second hand here in Spain. Hard to beat.

@NothingToProve

24 күн бұрын

You'll fit better on this than a V7 but the bonnie, probably the best of the 3.

I rode this bike the other day and was surprised how much I liked it. I not a cruiser guy so maybe this is a non cruiser, cruiser.

hi scott, where did you got that jeansfrom ? and what is it called

I don’t see this bike as a cruiser as much as it is meant for either shorter riders, or women. Beautiful bike, is there a way to install a longer shock so your voice won’t chatter over bumps?

I got a good laugh from you saying ( with your voice crackling) how good the suspension is, while the bike and everything mounted on the bars are jiggling up and down.

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Would loved to have seen more of the other side of the bike....

I love the looks and the power is fine for me.... I just don't know about the price and whether it's worth it.

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Hi! I’m a follower from Italy and really like your reviews and your style. I tried this BMW today and I’m quite disappointed. The seat is horrible, small and hard. The brakes are weird, no modulation. There’s lot of on-off in every gear. Then it’s for sure easy to handle and quite funny but the price is crazy for such a bike. One month ago I tried the nineT 2024 version and there’s no comparison. I own a 1250 gs and a Daytona 660 Ciao!

@NothingToProve

10 күн бұрын

Thank you! Interesting, it seems like the bike you rode didn't get set-up correctly (brakes & throttle response). Seat AGREED! But it's a cruiser style bike, so I kind of expect that kind of seat from a cruiser. I've never been able to ride a cruiser longer than a couple of hours and want to get off and this bike is the same. Take care, Scott

It’s a little weird isn’t it? Exhaust routed to the kickstand side? The tank is kind of bland, too.

Not a bike or style I would go after, but the rear fender really destroys what looks it has in my opinion. Change it for GP, you will sell more.

That front suspension has like 3 cm of travel 🤣

@tpv59

Ай бұрын

Three and a half I think.

@nielsmeer

Ай бұрын

9cm according to the spec sheet at 4:34

Are the tanks are interchangeable with the nineT?

@caferacer3539

Ай бұрын

nope, as they have completely different frames

@AC-iy1ov

Ай бұрын

@@caferacer3539 wasn’t it only the sub frame?

@caferacer3539

Ай бұрын

@@AC-iy1ov you are talking about r12ninet, not "actual" r9t

Think it looks great, like the utilitarian old war era models. Looks beefy. (I have an R69) But this looks functional compared to the try-hard R18 big cruisers. Dig the color combo too, the merlot and all the black accents and wheels looks tough. And simple tech but why they detuned it I’ll never understand the reasoning.

It’s the “fora’s” that make me wonder; fora boxer, fora cruiser, fora dry clutch, soul . . . fora BMW? One of the posted comments may be worth a debate: It’s the rider’s character that determines the bike’s character?

How does it compare to the Speedmaster 1200?

@NothingToProve

Ай бұрын

I like the Speedmaster way better!

@flesz_

Ай бұрын

Speedmaster is better

If I ever went back to the cruiser platform, this would be number one on my list to check out. It’s a beautiful bike…if this great model can’t make inroads into the American cruiser market (like the R18, Triumph Thunderbird 1600, etc. seemingly failed to do), BMW and other European manufacturers might as well throw in the towel for good.

Reminds me of my first bike, Kawasaki Vulcan S.

@mrEz87

15 күн бұрын

I had one to... what a gem! The only other bike I liked more on the road was a versys 650... same motor!

Good review, but sorry man, the R18 Pure has far more soul. Still lots of plastic used compared to the R18. The design of the rear fender doesn't look right to me. The R9T EURO 3 and 4 also sound much better.

Those 2 monster growths growing out from either side of the bike...why-o-why do they do this? Shaft drive is nice. But the huge cylinders, protruding out from the sides, is a deal breaker for me.

@NothingToProve

24 күн бұрын

Well...they've been making the boxer for over a 100 years, don't think they will stop.

Configurated the roadster on the BMW web-site: Absolutely ridiculous. What ripp -off! Closed the page and shook my head in disbelief. More than 21k EUR? What for? And the name, reminding of the classic R 90 S, is no longer apt. Failure, BMW! A toy for the well-off lady, in my opinion. But a motocycle? No longer...

I was always syper happy that I am 198cm tall. Until I started looking into motorcycles 😄. Such a beautiful bike, too bad it's not really for above average tall people...

@jerryisgaming6571

Ай бұрын

I'm 169cm tall. Had the opportunity for a test ride the other week, fits perfectly 🙂

@radoje.albijanic

Ай бұрын

@@jerryisgaming6571 lucky you 😀

Good to see BMW are still developing the Boxer twin motor for new roles. I’ve had 2 boxers . The best,motor for a bike with shaft drive.

A BMW with soul??? That's a first and I don't believe it

Nice work. Thank you. But this bike is not a good looker in my eyes. Those wheels looks like something from a toy. Rear mudguard, front mudguard brackets...well, not for me! The other one however! Make a film about that one, please. Thank you! Cheers!

The R Nine T design is like....1200% better. Smells like a cost cutting model.

That rear end looks nasty and what's happening with the rear seat? I always ride with a pillion so this new bike just isn't an option.

I rode the royal enfield shotgun. What a bike and at half the price

@francescoporcari8597

Ай бұрын

Half the performance and more weight.

im really curious at what bmw is smoking, that they think after 10 years this is an accaptable sequel design of the legendary 9t. this looks ass to be honest. if you remove the badge, you would mistake it for a moto guzzi

It looks similar to the old cx500 custom…. R nine t all the way!

As an R9T scrambler owner I was keen to try one of the R12s out. When I had a service I took an R12 nineT out for the day...I wanted to like it but it comparison with the old R9T it felt like a cheap plastic half imitation. Even the BMW dealer said the old bikes are a 'lot more bike for the money'. The bodywork and parts felt cheap in comparison...sure it had the same fun factor in terms of around town nippy riding but I wouldn't swap my old R9T scrambler for the new models. Everything, right down to the side stand felt cheap...and the R12 bike is more expensive! I tour on my r9T scrambler, I wouldn't even dream of it on the new model.Big fail BMW.

I hope they sacked anyone who signed off on the “R12 nineT” being a good idea for a motorcycle name. 😂

@TerraMagnus

Ай бұрын

Just make it R12R, R12C, and leave everyone clamoring for an R12GS

@jerryisgaming6571

Ай бұрын

@@TerraMagnus R12GS is already announced AFAIK

Over priced and doesnt have a fuel gauge? What year are we in again????

So they lowered everything but NOT the Price😂😂😂

I’m a lifelong boxer lover. Owned seven, and currently have last year’s UrbanGS, lightly modded. But this one? I just can’t get my head around the looks. I’m sure it’s great mechanically, but I find it to be plain ugly from every angle. A look only a mother could love.

These bikes thisyear are for the Ladies

Nothing compare to you !!! R nineT.

BMW should learn how to design a proper fuel gauge from Honda. The Japanese bikes are so much more still ahead of certain ways of this bike.

@grandazzo

Ай бұрын

Honda no soul, gaaaaap 😢

The R12 has lost a huge amount of individuality compared to the R NineT. It looks like a soft chopper now 👎🏻 It may be a good bike but it’s lost the connection to the original „RNineT-Idea“. That’s quite sad actually.

Odd rear fender, opinion.

Oooh no. no. Looks like an affair between a r9t and a royal Enfield ...no Ok great vid as usual, but no , not my taste Thank god we're all different

The engine design i don’t like it

Nice review, but the bike is still overweight and overpriced.

R12 NEIN R12 9T JA.

its screaming a bunch of mods..... Looks like a honda shadow stock with a boxter.... Roadster is best!

Don't buy it it's a step backwards! I will stick with 2016 Rnine T with the twin clocks and more HP. What is the point of this bike? It's a total rip off!

Engine looks daft sticking on sides

disain terjelek yg pernah di buat BMW

I wouldnt buy it such ugly bike omg

God its ugly!

That particular bike is a design mess. Nothing matches anywhere. There are square, vertical lines, tubes, ovals and flat planes, especially around the rear end. That fender is awful. The whole thing looks like a pile of swarf pulled out of a scrap bin beside a lathe.

@NothingToProve

Ай бұрын

Yea, BMW needs to steel some designers from Moto Guzzi/Ducati/Aprilia...etc. (Italian) and get some bikes that look good for a change 👍🤣

The ugliest bmw ever. Just the rear fender🤮

I'm sure it's a competent bike but man it ain't pretty.