For that price tag ,this car is going to be garage queen for most of the rich buyers

@blitzy3244

Жыл бұрын

This ugly thing ain't no queen, it's a medieval peasant's wife.

@SIat

Жыл бұрын

Or for the snobby wannabe bmw “enthusiasts”

@daytonasayswhat9333

Жыл бұрын

Like all fancy cars. Someone has to buy them.

@carterg1847

Жыл бұрын

@@SIat what makes a person a real bmw enthusiast?

@SIat

Жыл бұрын

@@carterg1847 I’m not saying they’re a fake bmw enthusiast. I’m speaking more along the lines of the self righteous bmw people who think their cars are a special edition Ferrari when it’s nothing close to that

When thomas Said ”it’s drivnin’ time” i just fell to my knees and started sobbing, truly a national treasure level of video only fit for gods

@negativeindustrial

Жыл бұрын

Fell to your knees, did you?

@labibmanzar8559

Жыл бұрын

He also drove all over the place

@andrewduong2740

Жыл бұрын

I loved the part when he said

@willdill7253

Жыл бұрын

Truly one of the drives of all time

@Royal_dj_ent

Жыл бұрын

Wtf!! Calm down lmao it’s just a car

I really appreciate the color correction, and how true-to-life the colors are, big applause to the editors, cameramen, and of course James and Thomas (cuz without the cast, there is no show)

Many thanks, to the editor(s) for the Metric to Imperial conversions. Great job by the whole team. Very entertaining, informative, and all-around great video, as usual.

I love how James is progressively becoming a better driver

@rayhan4502

Жыл бұрын

Is he bad at it?

@GameOver-nm2us

Жыл бұрын

@@rayhan4502 Huh?

@lvloneymaker24

Жыл бұрын

What makes you think he was ever a bad driver wtf?

@bokebryant3985

Жыл бұрын

@@lvloneymaker24 that doesnt mean he's bad. He can still be better, even Verstappen can have room to get better

@GameOver-nm2us

Жыл бұрын

@@lvloneymaker24 who said that

James’s drift at 5:42 oh my GOD. Love to see his progression on the track.

@damarfadlan9251

Жыл бұрын

His progress is so rapid.

@scottiemcgee3838

10 ай бұрын

​@@RepentandbelieveinJesusChristshut up

The production value of Throttle House videos is just insanely good. Congrats to the videographer & editor, you are total pros.

Your reviews are awesome guys! I love the fact you're Canadian and from Ontario too. Keep up the great job!

"Is it stunning? I am stunned by it" that got me 😂

@damarfadlan9251

Жыл бұрын

I am stunned too.

@mattkendrick9908

Жыл бұрын

I’ll have to pass on looks alone sadly.

@mikek545

Жыл бұрын

I’m stunned they haven’t fixed the weight and front end 😅

You know CSL is a serious deal because TH didn't even put a dramatic intro for this episode! 😷💪

@OldSkoolUncleChris

Жыл бұрын

Instead they snuck in the Harrison bit , like Casino Royale and the bathroom gunbarrel.

@aerienix

Жыл бұрын

They normally don’t with the track series.

It was cool seeing you laugh w/joy as you went around the track. Great stuff!

one of the best car review content on youtube hands down.... appreciate you guys

Nothing better than a new Throttle House video in the morning

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Yep. And also a TH video in late night.

@Fasteddie1085

Жыл бұрын

Facts 💯

am I stupid or is the csl with 1.08.64 slower than the zr1 with 1.08.59? Because I think they mixed up the leaderboard at 14:37

@Christian.90

Жыл бұрын

I was about to comment this lol. It needs to be #5, below the Zr1.😬

@A--lex

Жыл бұрын

@@Christian.90 yeah they did 😂

@chicomaxima1

Жыл бұрын

The editor Screwed up

@jamesengelsman9369

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's our bad. None of us noticed in the final edit. All the times are correct though!

@LF-du4uc

Жыл бұрын

Carson…?

I still can't get over how the front grill looks but the rest of the car looks good

Am I the only one that thinks the M4 looks incredible?

@donjohn2239

Ай бұрын

Yes. You are a wierdo

This review nails most people’s thoughts - the M4 CSL is just not special enough. Limited in production numbers doesn’t make it more special, it just makes it rarer and appeals to the people that look at cars as investments. It’s like playing Pokémon red/blue and finding a wild Porygon - rare, but no one wants one to fight with. My money easily goes to a used R8, or saving a bit more for a new winged 992 GT3 which is what I’ve opted for as a G80 M3 owner. Amazing video as usual!

@dustyice3110

Жыл бұрын

Problem is actually buying a 992 gt3 or a gt4 rs ... you wont find one for less than $250k on the used market. This kinda feels like the m4 gts and that car still only sells for around MSRP.

@bernhard.k

Жыл бұрын

R8 is no good car.

@Mis73rRand0m

Жыл бұрын

Funny I just made a pokemon-related comment regarding their intro. James needs a Weezing.

@jessicalacasse6205

Жыл бұрын

im sure you get the old vs new the v10 vs the 6 and not much difference... you should nt pay more to get a compromise ...

@ourfutureisdark

Жыл бұрын

I agree to an extent. You have to think about who its marketed for the M4 GTS was did do well because it honestly wasn't that far from an M4C all they did was give it a wing and added distilled water to pump the power which a simple flash would do to a normal M4C. M4 CSL however has a weight advantage and its for the track. Lastly how many people even track their track cars? Not many so just like you said the people who buy this will probably buy em and store em.

Kudos to BMW for still making cars like the M4 CSL

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Z4 GT3 and R8 LMS GT3: R WE A JOKE FOR YOU?

@blazesmooth5573

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 11 year old cars

@netweed09

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 *Yes.*

@mikek545

Жыл бұрын

Still making ugly grills

@blazesmooth5573

Жыл бұрын

@@mikek545 grill is beautiful

In Australia, the price is said to be $303,900 AUD. That equates to approx. $193,000 USD.(before on the road costs).

Great video as always. Props to the whole team

Those CSL taillights and hood are going to be very desirable to G82 M4 owners

@revlucm7301

Жыл бұрын

Was just wondering if i can get hold of a set…bet they are silly money

@DefinitelyNotEmma

Жыл бұрын

There are G82 M4 owners?

@leolopez626

Жыл бұрын

@@DefinitelyNotEmma surprisingly yes there’s a couple out there I’d personally go with a G80 M3 🤷🏽‍♂️😂

@DefinitelyNotEmma

Жыл бұрын

@@leolopez626 I live in Germany and since the new M3/M4 came out I've seen like a handful of them, definitely less than 6 overall.

@DefinitelyNotEmma

Жыл бұрын

@@leolopez626 The G80 is definitely the lesser evil though, the rear is rather nice, but that front... I guess you could cover it in tape to hide it

At $140k I would say there’s alternatives that look far better. This is touching super car territory for what’s essentially a souped up sedan.

@robe4314

Жыл бұрын

Unless you just want a sedan this is in C8 Z06 territory. That price is bonkers.

@Christian.90

Жыл бұрын

I would honestly take a Gt500 carbon fiber track pack over this and save money.🤷🏻‍♂️

@nappy5853

Жыл бұрын

well its reasonably priced , its a little less expensive than a amg gtr and a little slower, and its even less expemnsive than 911 gt3 and a little more slower, but obviously if price is the only thing u look at than u can buy the cheap alternatives like z06 which is ;likely faster than all of these but manufactured at a lesser quality

@cwx8

Жыл бұрын

For that money I want it to look like 140k not some kind of Korean import with aftermarket exterior mods.

@cooperjackson5840

Жыл бұрын

Down payment on a house lol

M5 CS only TWO second slower with 4 doors full weight and rear seats. Now thats impressive.

Another brilliant review. Lerv your work Boyz. 2 Thumbs up

Awesome as usual guys. Would love to see all the cars you review do launches from a dig! An outside perspective. Keep up the good work!

This channel had to grow on me. I've been so biased towards the old Top Gear that it's hard to accept new personalities but these guys won me over. Subbed

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Me too man. Me too grew up on Throttle House.

@sddyck

Жыл бұрын

Same. 100%

@baljeet650

Жыл бұрын

Ur flexing that ur not v smart

@OldSkoolUncleChris

Жыл бұрын

yeah imagine them in the future all potbellied and with sandpaper skin like C H & M lol.

@karmadel786

Жыл бұрын

Either you like cars or you don't

i’m new to your channel and i really gotta say THANK YOU SO MUCH for making great content. Ever since the OG top gear UK ended, and now that grand tour only does specials, this channel has been filling that void that TG left, that the current Top Gear US and UK just can’t really fill. you guys are awesome!! keep it up!

@mrflippant

Жыл бұрын

Make sure to check out Jason Cammisa over on Hagerty - he's like an American version of Clarkson.

The camera crew and editors really like to shine 3:36 I just love this moment

That slide at 5:40 was amazing!

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

He nailed it.

Well this extended my normal morning work bathroom break by about fifteen minutes.

Best Car reviewers on KZread, and it’s not even close. Love you guys!

I would definitely go for the m5 cs over this cause the m5 cs isn’t that much slower around a track but is so much more practical and would be a better car for me cause i would want to daily drive it. The m5 cs also looks a lot better.

@ilon7799

10 ай бұрын

You know, if you want practicality, it’s BMW M5/M5 Competition. Much better car overall for less money. And much more comfort.

@matejdo

6 ай бұрын

I believe there is a huge issue with that V8 engine, obviously there are no official reports, so I may be wrong. But I have heard about multiple S63 engine failure. I did not buy M5C simply of the S63, even though the performance must be amazing the fear of the engine dying on me is too much for me :D

I really, really want to see how the new C8 Z06 compares in terms of lap time. Can't wait for that episode.

@GrimReaper1675

Жыл бұрын

Lmao the C8 Z06 is lower to the ground than the M4 CSL, lighter, better aero, also C8 looks a million times better than a big 3700 pound car. Thats why Thatdudeinblue said he will NEVER compare a Corvette to a Mustang. Not even the same weight class. A M4 has no business trying to compete on a track with cars that weigh less than 3500lbs. I imagine a C6 Z06 with todays modern tires will corner better than a new M4😂

@95shagginwagon67

Жыл бұрын

@@GrimReaper1675 as an owner of a C6 Z06 with PS4 S tires on it, you might be right. What I can say is the C6 z06 is VERRRRRY twitchy when getting aggressive through corners with t/c and s/c off. Even with the modern tires, it almost needs to break traction to feel safe. It might corner as well, but I’m sure the M4 is more confidence inspiring.

@tyler9703

Жыл бұрын

@@GrimReaper1675 Lol I get what youre saying, but the new Z06 ALSO weighs 3700 LBS. So not any lighter than the M4.

@karlmalone11

Жыл бұрын

@@GrimReaper1675 new z06 weighs about the same as this car. The lightest spec that Caranddriver tested of new z06 weighed 3666 pounds, about the same as this car.

@hwyfools

Жыл бұрын

C8Z will walk the CSL on a track. 345s on the back of that Z.

I love everything about y’all’s videos. Perfection.

This is the best car channel on KZread. The cinematography, the way they capture the emotion of a car, beyond grateful I get to watch these videos for free.

I’ve seen this review a few times now. You guys are the best reviewers. Luv from the UK (London)

I just love the stuff you guys do, keep up the good work! Btw that color looks so sick.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

The color looked too bold in fact.

@EvoraGT430

Жыл бұрын

It's undercoat.

@FirestormX9

Жыл бұрын

The speed gauge animation after the intro's sealed it for me.

@gurupitka7705

Жыл бұрын

Those clips aren’t him driving😂

@FirestormX9

Жыл бұрын

@@gurupitka7705 yeah and this comment of yours isn't a human typing, its a dog

Was watching this thing do 1/4 miles and its acceleration throughout is insane.

All the way from South Africa, I love watching you guys, keep it up❤️

“Brake bias set frontward” That’s what happens when you fit a car with 6 piston fronts and single piston rears lol

As a Viper fan it makes me sad that you forgot about it as the only other 1:07 car.

@xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Жыл бұрын

What is a Viper?

@ZackNakazora1

Жыл бұрын

@@xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx an animal that eats corvettes and mustangs

@guillaumeloriault4074

Жыл бұрын

@@ZackNakazora1 Or something that usually ends up in a ditch or a guardrail 😂. Jk love them too specially ACR.

@jac540

Жыл бұрын

That's seriously impressive, considering the Viper has been discontinued since 2017.

@davsquaredo79

Жыл бұрын

As a mustang owner, Vipers are some of the sexiest cars out there

I've owned three BMW 4-series, so far, and there's no way I'd pay almost $150k for another one. For that money I'd buy a new Corvette AND a Cybertruck - that covers utility, style and performance. Nothing against people who are willing to pay this, but man, again, I've owned three 4-series, and the entire lure of them was that you got an awesome looking and performing car for like $10k more than a Mustang GT or a Camaro SS. When you're talking like $80-90k more, that's pretty insane. But hey, it's not my money, so spend it however you want, I'll still love seeing these on the road.

I have always absolutely loved the beaver grille.

Wait, it should be slower than the Corvette ZR1 at a 1:08.59 right? Leaderboard shows it faster than that

@ThrottleHouse

Жыл бұрын

Yep we got it backwards nice catch!

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@ThrottleHouse hi throttle House. Please review Setsuna Yuki's Audi R18 TDI (Audi Team Joest) 2011 next! Please? From Purwanti Allan.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@ThrottleHouse the diehard lovelive fan.

Best review of this model! Thanks you gents! I bought the CSL as well as the M5CS. Epic cars!

@shivvashishthabhargava4600

Жыл бұрын

Congrats brother!

@timmietz

Жыл бұрын

@@shivvashishthabhargava4600 thank you! I am very blessed indeed.

@ertugrulbae46

Жыл бұрын

Dayum. You smashed it. Securing one of them is tough enough.

@truthsetsyoufree77

Жыл бұрын

Congrats man!

Great video as usual! You should do a review on the gt500 with a track pack so we can see how quick it is compared to the other cars you have done lap times on!

This is my new favorite car chan! You guys are awesome

The performance is definitely there on this one and that's probably the best I have ever heard the modern turbocharged BMW inline 6 sound from the factory. I wish my M340i sounded as good. Too bad about that price tag though!

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

The M4 CSL for me it maybe cool but still pales in comparison to Corvette C7 Stingray.

@smar1208

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 is that why its better in every measure (other than maybe looks)?

@Youcallthesebagels_

Жыл бұрын

@@smar1208 a corvette would destroy this on a real track that’s over 2 miles long. This track is too small for the viper and corvette

@dempseydulaney1

Жыл бұрын

get an MPPSK kit, intake, and downpipe. The B58 sounds better than the S58 because the S58 has two turbos instead of just one like the B58.

@MegaFregel

Жыл бұрын

@@dempseydulaney1 or the f82 with MPE or and M4 GTS (which essentially has an MPE) probably beats the CSL by miles due to modern regulations.

Except you can't possibly get one for $140k. There was one on the floor when I picked up my 340 this past weekend, and they wanted $50k over list. The sales guys were laughing about people calling and offering $20-25k over list.

@TheElectricGhost

Жыл бұрын

Tbf, they're Canadian so they get everything for MSRP

@helmetculture

Жыл бұрын

Those same sales guys the one crying the blue when they can't make ends meet too

@adamscottv

Жыл бұрын

@@helmetculture Any of them would be happy to make the deal but the boss set the price...

@julianagollari4851

Жыл бұрын

I was just offered one locally for $5k over which I didn’t take. The value will drop just like the GTS did when used.

Awesome video yet again, guys! I was wondering why you haven't done a McLaren yet? I'd love to see your take on one of those!

Haha how james was carried in and resisting 😆😆😆😆. Every video is so well written and executed

I actually love the looks of the M4. It’s the only one I like the kidney grill on. The 2017-22 M2 is my fave modern BMW though.

“It’s sooooo stiff!- and I don’t mean the suspension” 😮……”I mean the chassis” 😅 lol

Great review guys! (Which I don't say too often!) 👏

you guys are wonderful, I love your guys videos.

Nothing like the M4! The M4CSL and M5CS are pure savagery!

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

M1 Procar and Z4 GT3 2011: ARE WE A JOKE FOR YOU?!

@irinapetrovich7057

Жыл бұрын

The M4 has become a joke. No wonder I don't see any new ones here while everyone and their mother buys C63s

@blazesmooth5573

Жыл бұрын

@@irinapetrovich7057 no one's mom is buying a c63s, you probably are mistaken with c300s. M340i has have insane sales

@cybercityoedo808

Жыл бұрын

I want them both... one day.

@jaimeb3587

Жыл бұрын

You meant, nothing like the ugly front grill of the M4, right? Lol! That sedan is fat, ugly, and overpriced!

Man i love throttle house, i love BMW and the two of them together is just magic ✨️

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Me too love TH the same way i love LoveLive and Top Gear.

Love the honest reviews.

Great video as always!! This new M3/M4 will never grown on me...I still believe that the E92 and E30 are the ones to love

I would love for you guys to do a video on the cars that you own and have owned. Love your content- Keep them coming.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Hope those are never gonna end.

@jeremypayeur5985

Жыл бұрын

They actually did one during covid!

@rahuljayachandran4128

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremypayeur5985 okay i didnt know that- thanks for letting me know..

@Thisath100

Жыл бұрын

It's on Extra Throttle House if you haven't found it yet :)

@rahuljayachandran4128

Жыл бұрын

@@Thisath100 okay thanks for the heads-up 😃.

Seeing this car it kinda reminds me off the Alfa Romeo Giulia GTAm version. Would be amazing to see a drag race with both cars and see how well they stack up to each other on a track test

@vincefava7929

Жыл бұрын

Thinking the same thing! The ALFA is way way way nicer looking too.

@ScullyD-ee9jk

Жыл бұрын

Thats exactly the car it should be compared to. Throw the Jaguar Project 8, even the CLK63 AMG Black Series into it. And leave price out of it. Its just a specific type of car.

@vincefava7929

Жыл бұрын

@@ScullyD-ee9jk agreed. These cars are not just about how fast you can go (and they are fast), but how they make you feel. Why else would one buy a super expensive sports saloon? It's the city / daily driving, NOT the track.

@fifteen8850

Жыл бұрын

@@vincefava7929 and way more expensive lol

@christohees9150

5 ай бұрын

Car wow 😉

I LOL'd at the price. Not only is that insane but every other car you listed is not only extremely competent but also better looking and sounds much, MUCH better. But hey at least those seats don't look like they have a hearing feature you need a subscription to use on top of the $170K

My favorite car I had is still e46 M3 CSL. That sound air going in was really special for CSL. Wish I can get this also.

@brendanngin9939

Жыл бұрын

How’d you get a e46 m3 csl ?

I have to say that the front looks better with the sportier appearance. It just looks more apropriate on the car this way. This is definitely my favourite of the M3/M4 family.

@-Eternal-Damnation-

5 ай бұрын

Yeah it actually looks really good now. Its very different, but good in its own way.

Great edit! Gear question: What mount, camera and lens are used @24:00? The way the lights shifts across the front of the car is beautiful.

2008 BMW 335i. N54 engine. Total investment including purchase and mods 22k USD. O-60 all day in 4 seconds. Best time 3.425 seconds. Beat that performance for the money. M sport suspension also. Handles so well.

James said most POWERFUL M car...M8 comp has entered the chat..😂🤣😂🤣

So I could spend 140 grand to get a 3650lb pig that has a stripped interior and carbon fiber seats that have little to no padding in order to go slower than a $65,000 C8 Corvette that has heated and cooled seats and a 14 speaker thousand watt surround system while somehow still being lighter than the CSL.

Great video as always gentleman. can't wait to see ZO6 on track!!! is that happening soon?

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Maybe January 2023.

When Thomas and James were talking after the laps the car very much reminded me of the Mustang Mach 1

Oky these guys are fun. I was in denial but yeah just subscribed

Thomas: is this car stunning? James replies: I'm stunned by it"! Best line in the whole video! 🤣😂😅🤣

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Even Karin Asaka also said "I am stunned by it".

@jamescox1806

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 😆

I would like to see what a G80 CompXD would do around the track.... For comparative purposes, to see where it stacks up... I absolutely love my G80CXD, it goes from Housewife to Stripper with a push of a button. One minute I can have my two kiddos comfortably in the backseats and a load of groceries in its spacious trunk, and the next minute Im gapping C8 Vettes when I go back to the grocery store alone because I likely forgot something on the list... The G80CXD is the greatest practical sports car, perhaps ever, and for what you receive, I still think its High Value, even if you are unlucky and have to pay a massive markup. The potential of the S58 is just mind blowing. With just a few basic upgrades(Intake, Downpipes, Exhaust, & Tuning Module), you have 680WHP in the arsenal waiting for an opportunity to gap whatever pulls up beside you as they likely underestimate your saloon.. This is my first BMW, and the quality & versatility of the car has definitely made me a massive fan of the brand. I could not be happier that I got lucky and upgraded to a G80 from a G42, after a rich kid knocked up his GF and his parents forced him to forfeit his perfectly optioned G80CXD to marry her. I didnt have to wait a year, and I didnt have to pay a markup, but knowing what I do, I would gladly do so for the opportunity to own one. Living in the NE, Im partial to AWD, and while it may be a bit heavier, I think that is something you can easily mitigate if you are really wanting to push the car to its limits.

Excellent review

This is the consolation prize for wealthy people who don't have a relationship with Porsche.

Honestly one of your best reviews and that's saying a lot.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

The BMW M4 CSL is a car to buy and no more shortlist.

I'm surprised for the price they didn't add carbon fiber Wheels.

“OMG it’s sooooo stiff…and I don’t mean the suspension…” Yes Thomas. It is so stiff after watching this review.

Great review of this beast

When you said the M5, I would always probably go for a 5 series lower power trim than you would. But man I've been in love with the 5 series for decades.. Good call!

@mesprojects674

Жыл бұрын

I’d love to see an ancestor, like a modded 2008 M5 or 535, against this.

It's slower than the c7 zr1, But you guys put it faster on the list. Check that out to make sure I'm right. Of course I still love your videos and I give a thumbs up soon as i click on a video because I already know that it's going to be good.

"I've been looking forward to this." - Count Dooku

Tom, please do a video on the extra channel explaining your thoughts on steering feel, and what do you mean exactly when you say it's good or numb

James, I absolutely have to say this, you're getting absolutely amazing at drifting around corners!!! Thomas, I absolutely have to say this, you have my highest respect for always being so passionate AND remaining impartial. This car must have been eyes watering for someone who truly loves BMW: the M4 CSL seems to be exactly what a real M car should be, today.

@maximborodyuk3773

Жыл бұрын

Ugly, slow, overpriced, soulless?

The awful exterior and overall lack of "specialness" really puzzle me. I can't see anyone preferring this over a 911 Carrera S let alone C8 Z06. A Mustang Mach 1 also is not only visually more appealing and a great track tool as well, it also has the beautiful V8 noise to accompany the drive. Did I mention that the 718 GT4 resides in that price range too? A track focused, mid engine, naturally aspirated Porsche????

@nappy5853

Жыл бұрын

well its faster than a carrera s , and a mach 1 or gt500 around the ring, and i dont think anyone looking for a european sportscar would would ever consider z06 even though its pretty good.The gt4rs is best value for money , its faster than alot of more expensive cars but then again comparing cars based on their prices is stupid

@andrewb325

Жыл бұрын

I can’t either. I felt the same way about the M4 GTS and that looked a lot better than this. Looking at this car actually makes me nauseous.

@DefinitelyNotEmma

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewb325 The M4 GTS was peak M4 in every way. Looks, Performance and handling. Sadly it wasn't necessarily the best road car xD

@DefinitelyNotEmma

Жыл бұрын

@@nappy5853 And? It's faster than these cars driven by a professional driver. Most people that buy such cars are far away from being professional drivers. The Carrera S is much more prestigious, people will ask what you drive and when you say a 911 they're like "Oh, very nice car. How much did it cost? 120K? Decent price". When you tell them you bought this they'll say "A BMW? For 140K? Is it the M8? No? M4? For that money!? At least it has to look goo...oh my God..." The Mach 1 is much more special, especially here in Europe. It looks gorgeous, has the nice V8 and handles like you wouldn't expect. The 718 GT4 openly competes with the M4 CS as a track car of similar price range of a german manufacturer. So it absolutely makes sense to compare them. And in that comparison the brand new M4 CS can't compete with the GT4 RS which is a bit older too. As for the Z06, people will look at the Corvette being much more desirable than any BMW, especially here in Europe where Corvettes are legendary and rare cars anyway. Not to mention with such an engine

@nappy5853

Жыл бұрын

@@DefinitelyNotEmma the performance of a car is very important when u r buying a performance car , more so than what it looks like or what other people think about it. i do not consider people who buy cars for social status or as investments as enthusiasts not to gatekeep but i think you are misunderstanding the reason why enthusiasts by sports car. You are coming off a bit ill informed on this subject and a little bit delusional .Frankly you dont know what you are talking about

I really like the color bmw m4 csl already 😎👍

Great review! Fun watching you slide a car around and talk about the non-adjustable race buckets. Cool car but for the money it's neither an amazing track car (compared to others in its price range) nor an amazing road car but it is quite rare. IMHO I'd rather focus my cash on a 'pedestrian' M4 C if I needed to stay in BMW or go to a Porsche GT4RS or even a used GT3RS (more money).

great breakdown James

Just wanted to Point out that the M4 csl should be on the number 5 spot as the ZR1 time is faster. And I was also expecting a surprise race between the csl vs the Alfa GTAm also on the track.❤😪

@marshallwhite3672

Жыл бұрын

This

I’m amazed at how good the e46 M3 csl still looks when compared to this new one. The new design doesn’t hold a candle.

@fastm3980

Жыл бұрын

This m4 is ugly.

@cedricl.marquard6273

Жыл бұрын

Honestly love this new design

@fastm3980

Жыл бұрын

@@cedricl.marquard6273 To each their own 🤣. But if you had these two side by side with the M4 drivetrain,HP, torque etc.etc. Everyone would be choosing E46.

@Tobi-ln9xr

8 ай бұрын

Idk what you mean. The M4 csl is one of the most beautiful cars on the streets.

The point made on the rear brakes, they're just pity looking visually, in a car like this... I so agree! And that's the passion and attention to detail I love about these guys!

I don’t think people are appreciating that lap time. This is a front engined, RWD car that is quite heavy despite the weight savings. It is keeping up with and beating some insane sports cars that are built as sports cars from the ground up… to be so close to a race car like the GT3 is absolutely incredible.

@ryanjonathanmartin3933

Жыл бұрын

"No, no, heavy bad! All heavy cars bad! You are a BMW corporate shill!" Sarcasm obviously

@christohees9150

5 ай бұрын

​@ryanjonathanmartin3933 😂😂😂 that m4csl is very impressive and it can go faster

I would take the new C8Z06 over this car if I had a choice

Based on the red accent color, I thought it was the new M4 CSL with a JCW package.

Are we not going to talk about the fact the side profile looks more like a 2011 Accord Coupe than the precision tuned German masterpiece she is. I do appreciate the boys hitting on some of its cheap aspects and lackluster comforts given the shocking sticker. All of her flaws aside I love her front and rear fascias. Stunning... Use these fascias designs forms across the fleet.

That was quite the vociferous JAMES today...and I like it.

I have no problem with the way it looks. In fact, I love the grill... other details are a little less popular with me, but not the grill. I'd give my eye teeth to drive this thing... you guys are spoiled. ;) Nice review, as always.

@forzatech9482

Жыл бұрын

Me too I like the way it looks as a whole.

Great video always but even as a BMW owner I'm so.....meh over this car.

Nice vid 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Future vidéo M4 CSL vs M4 GTS😈 Keep on the good work 👍