The 2.7L is actually a very heavily built motor. Four bolt mains, compacted graphite iron block (the only production gasoline engine to use it), an aluminum ladder frame block skirt , that basically makes it a deep skirt block (and directly supports the main bearing caps), forged everything (pistons, con rods, crank, and cams) semi-open engine deck ( I call it semi-closed deck because there are 6 support points instead of the conventional 3 with semi-open) as opposed to the open deck 5.0 and 3.5 ecoboost, monolithic head and exhaust manifold (which means the exhaust manifold and turbos have coolant journals, which both speeds up engine warm up and reduces turbo and combustion chamber operating temperatures) and is just physically more compact (which inherently adds strength) with a very high lubricant capacity per displacement (2.22 qts per liter of displacement in a shorter block design vs 1.6 qts per liter in the 5.0l, and 1.7 qts per liter in the 3.5 [2.24 qts per liter in the 6.7 powerstroke] ) and overall, much fewer moving parts than the 5.0l v8. In 2018 and up, the engine has port injection to reduce intake valve, spark plug and injector fouling, electronic wastegates as opposed to mechanical, hollow cam shafts which reduce rotating mass, improve throttle response, efficiency, and theoretically put less strain on the timing chain, increasing service life. They are also stupidly easy to maintain, adopting the euro style top cartridge filter, a toolless oil pan plug, easy access valve covers, and just being very compact in the engine compartment. It's my opinion it should be the base engine in the F-250, as it's towing fuel economy is roughly equal, or sometimes better than the 5.0l for the same load, and it just utterly destroys the 5.0l in a truck application with that broad torque curve (the 5.0, especially the gen2 coyote, is quite peaky) As all direct injection engines go, and even moreso as it's forced induction with forged pistons (higher expansion rates forged vs cast) they do experience a fair amount of crank case intrusion from blow by, increasing fuel dilution of the engine oil. Max oil change interval I would suggest is 6500 miles, and less if you primarily drive short trips or tow often. Short trips don't allow proper warm up of the pistons, so seals will not get an opportunity to optimize. This situation is true for the 5.0l and 3.5 eco as well. Slightly less of a consideration on the N/A 5.0l simply because of it's lower cylinder pressures. Just treat it like a diesel, a diesel you can actually rev out and doesn't have 75 tons of emissions (reliability robbing) equipment bolted to it. Physically, it is the heaviest built engine available for the F-150, betraying the populous opinion of smaller displacement = weaker. The only TSBs that crop up with the 2.7 are limited lot supply and manufacturing defects, and not design issues. I might, daresay, that this is the best engine Ford has created in over 40 years. Maybe that's why it's the basis for most of their new product lineup. It's like the 289, they put it in everything.

@Michael_Scott_Howard

2 жыл бұрын

Ford did not create the E.B.

@sherinazmy8

Жыл бұрын

Amazing technical analysis, thanks

@uNkLeRaRa4

Жыл бұрын

Wow thank you for the detailed explanation, definitely saving this info!

@Decepticon313

Жыл бұрын

Whether this was copy and pasted or not, super good info.

@Lee-zi1zb

Жыл бұрын

I’m about to hit 150,000 miles on my 2018 F150 2.7 ecoboost and I’ve never had a problem.

Just bought a 2022 F150 2.7 Every time I drive this truck I’m shocked! Power plenty Torque is very good Ride is super comfy and quiet Throw in good gas mileage for a full size truck Well Done Ford

@cs1992

Жыл бұрын

I have a '20 4 door 4wd. I agree with your assessment. I average 22mpg 50/50 driving.

@paulhunter9613

Жыл бұрын

@@cs1992 just made a run to around the Chicago area from Detroit and back. Running about 74-76 mph I was getting 26 mpg, then turned on the a/c for the trip back and still got 24.4. Can’t complain about that mileage

@JulianoGSF

7 ай бұрын

The issue with this 2.7 engine is the wet belt placed inside.

@MarcABrown-tt1fp

23 күн бұрын

@@JulianoGSF Yeah but cant a failing wet belt be detected by a decrease in oil pressure? its just for the oil pump last I checked.

I've heard the 2.7 has less problems than the 3.5. I didn't know any better when I bought my 2.7 but I have no regrets. 80,000 miles, zero issues so far.

@bigpicturethinking5620

2 жыл бұрын

If I could do it different I would have picked the 2.7 over the 3.5. There are far fewer problems, but I haven’t had any myself.

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigpicturethinking5620 I’ve had zero problems with any of my 3.5 EBs.

@underratedcritic1983

2 жыл бұрын

That's great to hear.... Well... Not hear, but read.

@fernandezmaintenance1984

9 ай бұрын

So you recommend a 2.7 f150 for a work truck 8ft long bed???

@ChoneyPony

9 ай бұрын

@@fernandezmaintenance1984 no its only a 6ft bed. I dont know if i'd recommend it over the 5.0 for a work truck, heavy load hauling i'd stick with a V8. If not then sure i recommend it, better on gas too.

wow that's pretty well equipped for an xlt ! I have an 18 xlt 2.7 and I love it ! I'm at almost 60k miles with not a single issue. It is my daily and road trip vehicle. I do all my own maintenence on it. I don't do much heavy towing at all, I mainly use the bed to haul equipment or supplies. I have mine leveled on bilsteins, stock 18'' sport wheels, wrapped in 33'' BFG KO2s.

Man, don't sleep on that 2.7L. This engine is an under-the-hood powerhouse that's straight-up over-engineered. Picture this: a compacted graphite iron block-making it the lone gas engine to even go that route. It's got a sturdy foundation, thanks to four-bolt mains and an aluminum ladder frame block skirt, which gives it the beefiness of a deep-skirt block. Now, we're talking forged everything. I mean pistons, connecting rods, crank, and cams - this bad boy is built to last. Its engine deck? A unique semi-closed setup, sporting six support points instead of the usual three you see in semi-open decks. Way stronger than the 5.0 and 3.5 Ecoboost's open decks. It doesn't stop there. This engine has a monolithic head and exhaust manifold design. Translation: the exhaust manifold and turbos are water-cooled, which is game-changing for both engine warm-up and operational temps. What I really love is its compactness. It's got this inherent sturdiness and an incredible oil-to-displacement ratio, way better than the 5.0L and 3.5L. Plus, it's got fewer moving parts. No joke, it's a mechanic's dream-easy-access valve covers, tool-free oil pan plug, and top cartridge filter, just like the European models. After 2018, Ford stepped up their game even more. They added port injection to tackle fouling issues and swapped out mechanical wastegates for electronic ones. Hollow camshafts? Yup, they're in there too, reducing rotating mass for quicker throttle response and less strain on the timing chain. As for maintenance, treat this thing like a diesel that can actually rev. But, be mindful of the oil change intervals. I'd cap it at 6,500 miles, especially if you're hauling loads or making short trips. The only problems you'll see are occasional manufacturing defects, not design flaws. I'd go as far as to say that this might be Ford's best engine in four decades. No wonder they're using it as the cornerstone for their new lineup. It's like the modern-day 289; they're putting this thing in everything.

2017 F150 STX 4wd Super Crew coming up on my 70k oil change, always had Tacomas, what I’ve found not the first problem, way more comfort than the Tacomas and better fuel economy, average 20.4 around the house, hard to hit 23 highway, but have got it a few times, usually more about 22.5. Really don’t tow much and lil Tacomas served me just fine, but really just so much more comfortable and fun to drive than my Toyotas, I do think the 2.7 is a stickler for oil changes and that’s where you find the secret to a sweet running truck and keeping the Turbos happy. My list of vehicles I’ve owned is far from stellar, but this has been by far the most satisfying vehicle that we’ve had and wife loves it too and grandkids love it, if you don’t to 10,000 lbs daily and just need a very useful truck, I say try a 2.7 equipped F150 think the tiny V6 will surprise you.

I own a 2017 2.7 with 127k plus. 89 or higher octane mostly 91. Truck is a work horse and still has power and amazing response! Only have down rear breaks and two sets of tires. Oil is full synthetic Mobile 1 ! You can’t go wrong with the 2.7!

@Lee-zi1zb

Жыл бұрын

Mine is a 2018 2.7 with almost 150,000 miles and I’ve only ran 87 octane. Never had a problem.

@drchangtorres

Жыл бұрын

I have the same truck with 49050 miles on it. No problems what so ever and it is quick! I also use Mobil one full synthetic oil.

@fernandezmaintenance1984

9 ай бұрын

Would you recommend 2.7 v6 8ft bed work gardening work truck

@JulianoGSF

7 ай бұрын

The issue with this 2.7 engine is the wet belt placed inside.

2.7 is a great motor. Plenty of power for the average owner. If you haul really heavy weight frequently then the 3.5 may be more suitable.

Speaking of ride quality, I drove a 4x4 and an Fx4 back to back, both 2021 and both with 20” wheels. My daughter and I were both in agreement that the Fx4 was a smoother ride.

I have a 2018 2.7 with the 355 axle ratio. I also owned a 2015 with the 5.0 and 331, which is what most “off the lot” 5.0s have. The 2.7 is, or feels, much quicker. It also tows better imho because of the torque curve. Obviously, it does not have the tow rating of the 5.0, but it’s very calm, quiet and confident when towing within its rating. It has torque in all the right places. My old 5.0 screamed when towing, sounded good to me, but my family much prefers the silence of the 2.7. I’ve had zero problems with the engine, but many problems with electronic modules and I was one of the unlucky ones with a warped dashboard

@chrisvids1820

2 жыл бұрын

I just towed a 6000lb camper trailer with a dirt bike in the bed, over the Sierra Nevada mountains. I was a bit worried before the trip, but it turned out to be a pleasant drive. The turbos and 10 speed really helps the engine be in a comfortable place.

I have the 3.5L EcoBoost 2012 F-150 4x4 with towing package. 196000 miles and no issues ! (Well so far anyway) I love this truck

Bought a 2020 2.7 in April 2021. I love the thing. All the power I need and almost 20 mpg mixed driving and I am not a slow driver.

I have a 2020 with the 2.7 best truck I’ve ever owned, goes like hell decent mileage nice truck to drive

I have a 2015 XLT F150 screw with the 2.7 ecoboost and absolutely love it. Plenty of power and acceleration with good fuel economy to boot. Interstate speeds (70 mph) with the AC on I get 24 mpg in calm air. I say calm air because a head or tailwind definitely affects your fuel economy. Best mpg in calm air at 55 to 60 mph was 27 mpg. I've never had any mechanical or electrical issues with my truck which I maintain under severe service intervals.

Thank you so much for the review.

After owning a 2011 3.5 eco in roughly 2012 to 2016 , and recently purchasing a 2020 2.7 truck , the 2.7 feels right on par with the power. Probably because the truck is 700 some odd lbs lighter, but it feels very similar to me. I loved the 2011 but after replacing the drivers side turbo on it at 85k I decided to let it go and I knew that they would work the buggs out of this ecoboost lineup. No complaints about the 2020, excellent power and mpg I’m at 20 mpg lifetime never reset it from the day I bought it. It had 33k on it and still does it’s my family vehicle which doesn’t get used often but when it does it’s everything I need.

If you don't use your half ton for work better suited for a 3/4 ton, the 2.7 litre EB is all you need. I own a couple of all the three engines and by far my favourite is the 3.5 EB, followed by the 2.7 and then the Coyote. They're all great engines....... powerful, relatively fuel efficient, durable and dead nuts reliable.

@fight4urpointofveiw

2 жыл бұрын

How do you think the engine would do off-road? Is there any disadvantages of taking the 2.7 over the others for off-roading?

I just bought a 22 F150 XLT with the 2.7. I was originally going to go with the 3.5 but I heard about a lot of reliability issues and extra maintenance costs with the 3.5 over the 2.7.

@BigTimeTrucker432

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ht6qq5nf8j The MSRP was $53,210 I believe but they added an additional markup of $2800 on top of that. But they gave me the interior and exterior protective coating spray that they apply at the dealer for that $2800. Every other Ford dealer in the area was $5000-$10000 over MSRP. So the total with tax and everything was like $59k-$60k.

@dr._breens_beard

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigTimeTrucker432 53 k for that is absurd. sadly due to loan periods that exceed 48 months we wont see prices drop.

@BigTimeTrucker432

2 жыл бұрын

@@dr._breens_beard I agree but I really wanted a pickup truck again. I’ve been forcing myself to drive little 4 cylinder gas saver cars as my daily drivers these past 4 years. Since I traded in my Ram Hemi because I was being cheap with gas. These gas savers don’t fit my personality. Nothing is more comfortable to daily drive than a pickup truck. So I decided to buy anyways despite higher prices.

@dr._breens_beard

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigTimeTrucker432 well i suppose if u keep it for a long time u will be in a better position. Ive driven only sedans or wagons my whole life but my favorite vehicle was my dads 02 4runner limited he loaned me for a week. Slower n shit but u wouldnt know it

@BigTimeTrucker432

2 жыл бұрын

@@dr._breens_beard 4Runners are really nice.

What you might do in comparison is, if you can get ahold of one, do a video with the 3.3 v6 base engine. It's not as powerful as the boosted engines but people seem to sleep on it when it's still a very capable engine. There aren't very many vids about the 3.3 v6 probably because it's the work truck engine but for those who don't care to have all the tech ever, or just need the bed and don't need to do major towing, it just might suit some people and the fuel economy isn't terrible.

Fellas…. I know. I know. I went from a V8 to the baby 2.7… and all I’ll say is.. 100k plus miles and no issues at all. Normal at home maintenance. When I had the V8 it was great but it did have some issues in the 160k range. Also did normal maintenance on it, obviously. In my opinion, so far… the 2.7 is a steady reliable engine. Love the gas mileage also. Average about 18 mpg and I’m mainly city driving only commuting 25 min.

I replaced my 17 Ram 5.7 Hemi with a 2020 F150 with the 2.7, no regrets. Plenty of power and capability for me. I prefer the column shifter. Always appreciate your unbiased reviews.

@Michael_Scott_Howard

2 жыл бұрын

I own a 2020 2.7 SUPERCREW and yes Column shift is always best... I mean LESS A MANUAL TRANSMISSION JUST A WASTE OF SPACE

@musicovermyhammond9994

2 жыл бұрын

I have column shifter too. It just seems more practical for me.

@QueenCityBeerTube

2 жыл бұрын

@@musicovermyhammond9994 Should be a option on every trim level.

@musicovermyhammond9994

2 жыл бұрын

@@QueenCityBeerTube I agree, I was watching a review on the new 22 gmc and asked if you could get that truck with the column shifter. It was a straight NO!! I’ve been driving ford trucks for a while now but I did have a gmc in the past.

@JulianoGSF

7 ай бұрын

The issue with this 2.7 engine is the wet belt placed inside.

The 2.7 if you search online for engine problems has fewer problems than the 5.0 or 3.5. The only problem I could find with the 2.7 is an oil pan leak which Ford designed a new oil pan for and carbon on the intake valves. They added port fuel injection along side the direct injection to keep the valves clean. The 2.7 uses a compacted graphite iron upper block which is used in their Diesel engines. Ford obviously built the engine for strength and reliability. With the current cam phasers problems they’re having with the 3.5, I think I would choose this engine. Hopefully the 2.7 will find its way into the redesigned Ranger.

@LazyFaux5656

2 жыл бұрын

The 3.5L was originally a N/A engine they slapped turbos on; the 2.7L was designed from the ground up to take boost. Like you said, much like a Diesel engine.

@neilcarter77

Жыл бұрын

It did! And the 3.0 ecoboost.

@JulianoGSF

7 ай бұрын

The issue with this 2.7 engine is the wet belt placed inside.

@Sp3rmWizrd

7 ай бұрын

​@@JulianoGSFWet belts aren't that much of an issue tbh

@JulianoGSF

7 ай бұрын

@@Sp3rmWizrd How many miles do you have in your 2.7?

I had a 2017 2.7 for 3 years and loved the power. I was getting over 20mpg most of the time and even got 25mpg a few times driving 55mpg on long stretches. I'm back to a GMC with a 5.3 and the 2.7 feels so much faster.

@hmdwn

2 жыл бұрын

no concerns with the "lifter problems" with the GM 5.3 and 6.2? You're aware of the 2021 class action lawsuit about the lifters failing causing cam and thus engine damage? BTW... this was with their active fuel management and dynamic fuel management engines however, what GM did was to eliminate the 'chip' that allowed the engine to drop cylinders however... they kept installing the same lifters.

@Maverick09171

2 жыл бұрын

I’m about to stray from a GM for the first time in over a decade for the 2.7. A bit nervous and excited lol

I was given a 2.7 Lariat loaner while my 3.5 was getting warranty work and it delivered considerably better fuel economy than my 3.5. And the best part; had to pick up my camper and bring it home and that thing didnt even miss a beat. Only difference was, it stayed in 9th instead of 10th like the 3.5. Towing mileage was pretty close.

@chuckersw

2 жыл бұрын

It sorta preformed like it had something to prove and damn if it didnt do just that. Lol

@DJR5280

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the 2.7 is a great engine

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

You don’t use tow haul mode?

Ive owned all 3. So far impressed with the 2.7. Better built but i loved all 3. So far way more efficient and torque is there half the rpm but i would own any of them currently in the 24 2.7. 700 miles to E on a full tank is a nice feature

I've had both 2.7 Lariat and 3.5 Platinum and I averaged approx. 2.5 mpg better overall with the 2.7 which I prefer. Great engine!

Happy you did a review on this F-150 XLT EcoBoost. My only dislike is the Chrome look on the exterior (not the biggest fan). This was actually the first trim model I saw on the new F-150’s (2021) with the bench seat.

I'm not gonna lie the new redesign of the f150 is gorgeous!! I bought a used 2018 f150 and love it!!

Love your reviews. I’ve had the Ford 5.0 and Gm 5.3 and 6.2 I know it’s anecdotal, but the guys I work with have had problems with the 3.5 (timing chains and turbos specifically. The two guys who have 2.7 trucks have zero problems and it’s hard to feel a “seat of the pants difference” when riding in them. That said, none of us tow more than 5000 to 6000 lbs in any of our trucks so we aren’t maxing them out. My next truck looks to be the Ford with 2.7.

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

All these 3.5 EB “problems”. I have two of them as personal vehicles and a fleet of them for the farms and the open pit mine. I’m beginning to feel left out cause I’ve had no problems with the trucks, let alone the engines. These trucks are worked hard, not babied. Beginning to think these “problems” are self inflicted. I know some people who should never be left around something mechanical…

@paulh6517

Жыл бұрын

@@cwqrpportable Don't feel left out for sure.

@JulianoGSF

7 ай бұрын

The issue with this 2.7 engine is the wet belt placed inside.

I have 2.7 with after market program it’s a rocket

I just bought a new 2022 F150 SXT SuperCrew. I had a bit of a lemon 2020 SXT SuperCab and had a great 2015 F150 XLT with the 5.0. It is difficult to find a new 5.0 now days, they are very popular and more expensive than the 2.7 from what I've seen. I generally tune my cars and trucks and will do so with this one. My 2020 made 330rwhp/380rwtq SAE on 91 octane, a tune from 5 Star. My 5.0 was 360rwhp/370rwtq on E85. I love the low end tq of the 2.7 and the high end of the 5.0. To have both, would be great...oh yeah, the 3.5!!

To the dealer’s credit I was told I’d get just as much punany with the 2.7 as I would with the 3.5, and so far I have no regrets.

we as ford owners to now can feel better better about the wet belt driving the oil pump now it has kevlar in it

I own both a 2016 3.5 Ecoboost and a 2015 2.7 Ecoboost. The 3.5 Ecoboost is used to tow our food truck and do the daily work for that business and I use the 2.7 Ecoboost for my work as a site construction PM. On the highway I average 2-3 mph better with the 2.7 (21-22 mpg) than the 3.5 (17-19 mpg) Probably 2 mpg better in the city as well. Both engines have been extremely reliable. 2.7 Ecoboost has 180,000 miles and never a been in the shop for anything other than routine maintenance. Much lower fuel cost per mile on the 2.7 (~$0.13) vs the 3.5 (~$0.17), all other maintenance is the same price. I sure wouldn’t want to tow regularly with the 2.7. I would buy either again. Both have been fantastic, just need to look at your use case and buy according to that.

@justin5345

2 жыл бұрын

Great information here , I’m shopping around for a new f150 . Currently have a 2011 5.0 .

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

So nice to hear real life expriences from an adult vs some kid talking shit about his dad's truck or his friend's truck.. All my EBs are great engines and very reliable.

@Oakleyworld

2 жыл бұрын

How often did you do oil changes and did you use premium fuel? Thanks

@tylerentz3306

2 жыл бұрын

@@Oakleyworld Oil changes when at ~10,000 mile intervals, whenever the truck oil change alarm goes off. I use full synthetic Mystik JT-8 oil instead of the factory suggested partial synthetic. And I buy the cheapest gas I can get my hands on. Always E10 and generally unbranded fuel.

@Oakleyworld

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerentz3306 interesting thanks, very helpful info.

This is the F-150 I'd get, the 2.7L has proven to be a great near bulletproof engine since it came out in 2018, even though it's got the 2nd lowest tow rating aside from the 3.3L it's plenty for most people being able to tow between 8,900-10,100 lbs depending if you get a older one or newer one. I'd also get it in this XLT trim too, the torque on these engines be it from the 2.7L all the way up to the 3.5L is just crazy being able to nearly tow like a diesel with all the power down low where you want it putting the least amount of stress on the engine long term too.

@JulianoGSF

7 ай бұрын

The issue with this 2.7 engine is the wet belt placed inside.

This thing is supposed to be a little rocketship. More power and torque than most V8s had 5-10 years ago and significantly lighter. If i was considering an XLT or Lariat, this is likely the motor I’d choose

@gradoisx2348

2 жыл бұрын

You would be wrong considering a ecoboost. Now lets take into acount hp and displacement. The 3.5 ecoboost with twin turbos at 1 atmosphere of pressure or 14psi....that is forcing 7.0 liters of air per revolution through only 3.5 liters, now in terms of force and wear, what engine is under the most force when comparing the 3.5 ecoboost and the naturaly aspirated 5.0 engine? Which one do you think will last longer? Remember the ecoboost has high pressure fuel pump/fuel rail/direct injectors and 2 turbo chargers on top of that.

@jakes5530

2 жыл бұрын

@@gradoisx2348 sure that all adds up, but of course a N/A engine will be under less stress than a twin turbo. But I personally dont keep my vehicles over 100k miles, and there are plenty of reports that both the 2.7 and the 3.5 EB are robust enough to last 200k miles when properly maintained. I still wouldnt hesitate to buy one…

@jack62509

2 жыл бұрын

Pick the engine that’s right for you. In my experience, living in Canada, new engines will usually outlast the truck. I own a 5.0L but have owned a 3.5. Both good engines.

@mr.monitor.

2 жыл бұрын

@@gradoisx2348 nobody asked which lasts longer. Which is more fun? Lol I love the 3.5 eco. more torque sooner than the 5.0s. Engines can be built for turbo stresses. The USA has lagged in turbo technology for too long. I will be selling at 150k miles and have no issues with any Ford engine options.

@paulhunter9613

Жыл бұрын

@@gradoisx2348 remember the five oh has many more parts to wear out, and it also has high pressure fuel pump/fuel rail direct injectors . The 2.7 is the strongest engine ford makes

The newer 2.7s have a wet belt driving the oil pump . The belt is in the oil! A failure point. The newer 3.5s have a timing chain driven water pump, so if you ignore the weep hole for the seal (which you probably will because it is channeled to the side of the engine not the front) it will puke into the oil promptly destroying the engine. Let's hear it for built-in obsolescence on the new designs. The new electronic brake booster refines the time proven idea of an inexpensive vacuum booster and replaces it with a new design to make sure you part way with over $1000 if it fails.

I love that you stated they don't up charge, very frustrating trying to buy a vehicle now a days...

@nicholas2932

2 жыл бұрын

i'll bet money the dealership lied.

Love my supercrew 4x4 with the 2.7

I was on the fence between the 5.0 and the ecoboost. I knew the 5.0 would sound great, tow well, but get consistently poor fuel mileage. I opted for a 2.7 ecoboost, even though I was dubious, and it tows our camper trailer flawlessly, and gets 21-24 MPG consistently when commuting.

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

I get 21 mpg in my 5.0

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

Daily driver 80 miles to 100 miles a day zero issues

@chrisvids1820

2 жыл бұрын

I was in the same boat! I love my 2.7. The only thing I hate about it is the mirrors (2021), and I'd rather not have 20" rims. Other than that, love it. Just towed a 6000lb travel trailer over the Sierra Nevada mountains. It pretty much stayed around 2000-3000 rpm at 65-75 mph. V8 probably would have been 4000 rpm up that grade.

@johnk6206

2 жыл бұрын

My 2022 2.7 STX is lucky to see 19 on the highway.

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnk6206 what engine? Cuz I'm at 23 mpg in my 2021 with the 2.7 Ecoboost and that's in the cold weather it'll soon be going up more

The 3.5 on a 35 gallon tank only got me 485 mile range on daily driving, city and highway. The 2.7 on a 35 gallon tank I get 625 mile range on city and highway. If it's just pure highway? 685 mile range. 😀😀😀

I love this truck. 2023 STX Hot 🌶️ Red Metallic is straight 🔥. So far no complaints. Time will tell. I am a little weary of the 10 speed transmission though…..😮 🤔

main thing is the 2.7 is built wit an iron block instead of aluminum more like a diesel engine will last long i think but jus torn between the 2.7 or 5.0 which one will last longer and since the new 5.0 comes wit cylinder deactivation that makes me lean towards the 2.7 i hate cylinder deactivation like the truck jus stops using 4 cylinders seems like problems waiting to happen ugh idk what to do

The 2.7 is the most reliable engine choice for the F150 and it's built stronger than the 3.5 is. It also has plenty of power and it actually does average 2 mpg better than the 3.5 eco in real world driving. The 2.7 will definitely be my engine choice if I get a F150. I'm either getting a XLT FX4 supercab sport with the 2.7 or a Silverado RST doublecab with the 3.0 Duramax. Both are around the same price, but I'm leaning toward the Chevy because I love the fuel economy and smoothness of the I6 diesel and the new Silverado interior has leapfrogged the F150's. The 2.7 eco is also a great engine and it has a longing history under its belt than the 3.0 Duramax. Tough decision.

@alicepooper8562

Жыл бұрын

Chevy and gmc are the same truck which is really weird but the 2 combined out sell the f150 so they must be doing something right

@paulhunter9613

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t want to pay the extra cost of the Diesel engine and now diesel fuel is $2 more a gal over 87

@p0weraid

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhunter9613 plus def

Awesome sharing, great content the EcoBoost: Should You Buy The 2.7 Over The 3.5, 3 like it. Good luck my friend.

@thankyou9085

2 жыл бұрын

I say If you got the money, get the 3.5 Almost the same mpg, better payload and towing, more power over all

@p0weraid

Жыл бұрын

@@thankyou9085 and has alot more issues

I’ve owned a 3.5L (2013 Lariat) and a 2.7L (2020 STX) and my 3.5L was always at a 17MPG average. 2.7L always seems to land at a 21MPG average. So fuel savings do seem to be there for me but that may just be bc the 2.7L is just SO much newer lol. As far as performance, holy cow do I think the 2020 2.7L has more umph to it. But that could be the almost decade’s worth of progress 🤷🏼‍♂️

It's tough to decide I would probably get 2.7 but the 5.0 would be nice too

@nathanlopez5667

Жыл бұрын

Coyote all the way that 2.7 could be a very problematic motor in the long run

@paulhunter9613

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanlopez5667 “ could be problematic “ 😂 just say you don’t know, it’s obvious anyway. The biggest mistake you made is choosing the five oh, lots of issues with it

@nathanlopez5667

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhunter9613 can't beat that naturally-aspirated V8

@paulhunter9613

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanlopez5667 you are entitled to an opinion,,

@RohanSanjith

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanlopez5667 I'm worried about the oil leaks after say 150,000 miles or 10 years, because of the high pressure fuel injection and turbo!!

Had my 2.7 now for about 1 month and I’m coming from a 5.7 litre hemi . I was a little worried at first just because such a small engine for a truck and reliability scarred me so at 1 month can’t speak on that end, but if your worried about speed ? Don’t be !! This 2.7 is a rocket ship !! No joke it’s faster then all hell ! Put your foot down and your gone. The only difference is with the hemi when you were going fast you felt it ! Good feeling ! It’s like hammer down a nail with a sledgehammer and with the 2.7 it’s like hammering down a nail with a samuria sword 🗡

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

That 2.7 will gap that hemi

@leelee287

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattwagner8965 yeah eventually the hemi would catch up. Don’t get me wrong the hemi was, is a great truck ! But feel a like more sophisticated 🥸

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

@@leelee287 ehh dodge is the product on the market by far

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

@@leelee287 dodge is the worst product out there

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

@@leelee287 those hemi rams get gapplesauced all day by any ford or Chevy

I’m a 5.0 guy, but the 2.7 is a great engine and I’d consider it over the 3.5. I love the white and chrome XLT with the 302a. I have the 2017 version of this with the 5.0. I love some of The updates they gave the XLT packages, but I’ll ride out my 17 for a long time with these stupid prices these days.

@willardgentry6624

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, why would you take the 2.7 over the 3.5?

@dr._breens_beard

2 жыл бұрын

@@willardgentry6624 prolly cause its significantly more durable construction will lend to much better long term reliability along with negligible acceleration loss when empty which is what 99% of new trucks sold will be driven as.

@dr._breens_beard

2 жыл бұрын

i was too until this current gen. they introduced cyl deactivation which automatically made it a never-buy for me. sure u can disable it but the components are still in there and can still break.

@paulhunter9613

Жыл бұрын

@@dr._breens_beard what will you drive then? Chevy , ram, and ford have it now

@dr._breens_beard

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhunter9613 id take the 2.7l in the f150 or go with a tundra or tacoma. But thats irrelevant cause i have a sedan now that was overpriced as is for having 100k on it which makes me honestly think that the age old "prices wont come down" on goods bullshit line will soon no longer apply to new trucks given how they are now fully out of reach, in a financial responsibility sense, (people still out here taking 84 month loans with 40k a year jobs) for the working lower and middle class.

I would order the locking rear axle.

I have a 2017 2.7. 4 oil pans and 2 front cover reseals, 2 diff reseal, oh yea 2 sunroof repairs. Just turned over 40k. Never towed a thing. Runs great, just leaks.

@alxfort39

2 жыл бұрын

doesn't sound great for only 40k.....

@fullspeedfordbronco

2 жыл бұрын

These issues were fixed in the 2nd Gen nano 2.7.

@paulhunter9613

Жыл бұрын

@@fullspeedfordbronco my 2018 truck has only seen the service dept for oil changes…

At :36 or :37 you say you have a 2.7 L. V-6 under the hood. I know I am wrong to think the 2.7 L was a 4 cylinder now but didn't Ford have a 4 cylinder in the F150? Thanks, good info.

I've owned all 3 engines with 10 speed tranny my 2021 with the 2.7 and 3.73 gears is the best performer

@thegreatempire3882

2 жыл бұрын

What type of MPG did you get with the 3.73 ratio? I ended up ordering with the 3.55 since I couldn't decide which axle ratio to go with and ended up going the route that saved money.

@alicepooper8562

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegreatempire3882 Around town its not very good its always in sport mode on the highway its good after a 800 km trip there was a quarter tank left most of the trip was in eco

It is the most underrated engine in the entire auto industry

just bought a 2015 laraiat with a 36 gallon tank and 2.7.. you can go almost 700 miles on a tank and i orginally thought it was the 3.5 with the acceleration and smoothness. i am impressed. anyone know when they added port?

@Lee-zi1zb

Жыл бұрын

2018

After much research went with the 2.7 engine. Just a lot better built engine than the 3.5.

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

Interested in hearing more….. I currently have both engines and prefer the 3.5. They’re both capable engines but the 3.5’s extra torque shines through for people who work their truck.

@thomastallick3119

5 ай бұрын

Have a 2016 2.7 with 83000+ miles. No issues it is fast, get 22-23 mpg on trips. I always use full synthetic 5-30 Mobil one. Change oil & filter well before recommended service. Also have a 3.5 echo boost. Prefer to 2.7 over the 3.5

Excellent.

What An Amazing Truck. :D

5.0 for LIFE. I hear about a 50/50 review of the 2.7, you either love it unconditionally or you hate it.

@AMV0429

Жыл бұрын

I have the 2019 2.7. it goes good, but I think 10 gears is too many. I think 8 would be the sweet spot. On the highway, I do appreciate the 10 speed. It is quiet.

@paulhunter9613

Жыл бұрын

The same is said for the five oh

2.7 IS better on fuel by quite a bit when driven normal they are amazing on fuel.9.3 to 9.7 tank after tank driving super good. Driving normal but nice about 10 to 10.2 then pulling boat 3000lbs with trailer easy I get 13.4 to 14. Super fast as any f150 with any of the motors 👍🏻

Bring back the 6.2 V8 to the 1/2 ton my opinion They still make on the 3/4 and the 1 ton

5.0 or 3.5l. The problem is from what I have read the problem is the RPMs that these specs are measured at. Unless I misread it was over 4000 RPMs. I know the 3.5 is at 2200RPMs.

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

Correct

has the engine changed in 2022 since 2019? I'm looking at buying used F150 (2019) with 2.7 ECOBOOST

@spacebound1969

Жыл бұрын

Yes. The 2nd Gen 2.7 includes port and direct fuel injection to prevent carbon fouling, hollow camshafts for improved throttle response, and electronic instead of mechanical wastegates. Improvement in every way. I think they even make slightly more power as well. That said the first gen 2.7 is still a killer motor.

I'm going to factory build a 3.5 Ecoboost I've seen nothing but good things from everyone know that had one

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the “real life” story, not the “my uncle had one” or “my friend’s dad had one and….”. I have many 2.7s and 3.5s and they’re both great engines. The 3.5 is a solid, reliable workhorse

Hope the 2.7 is fuel efficient please I'm planning on buying a foed truck but I need one that is most fuel efficient

Yeah my 3.5 is giving me problems hopefully it gets resolved with cam phasers getting replaced a recall so I don’t have to pay for still sucks though

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

Flood mood before you start to build oil pressure can phasers will last that way

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a machine, not a computer. Shit happens, get over it

I went to my ford dealership ready to buy a ford f150 but I change my mind very quickly , when I got there first car I saw was a ford maverick xl with the 2.5 and it was used it had almost 2k miles , went to see the sticker price on the window and it was for $42,455 , I went to see the f150's and every one of them has a "market adjustment price " even the used ones , I couldn't believe a used ford maverick xl the very lowest trim level would cost more than double MRSP, , what a ripoff , I have bought two cars at this dealership before but no more.

0-60 is very close in the 2.7 vs 3.5 tune the 2.7 it will walk a 3.5 but tune the 3.5 they become beasts but the better built engine and more mpg 2.7 is the pick for me.

“A little bit on the heavier side, but easy enough to get up” is what my wife says about me

@BenHardyCars

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

I've got 140,000 miles on my 2015 2.7; fun to drive but mileage sux on I70 in the Midwest (15.4ish) -- won't buy one again.... shopping for a 5.0

Got a 2015 F150 Lariat w/ a 3.5L Eccoboost and I almost got the 2.7 but to my surprise I actually needed the 3.5L Eccoboost because I ended up towing my wife's car on a Uhaul auto transport. Ready for something different so I might get a Raptor.

@donaldalderman2424

2 жыл бұрын

2.7L probably would've towed that fine. What was the weight?

@nicholas2932

2 жыл бұрын

is your wife's car an f550? cause thats the max of the 2.7....

@paulhunter9613

Жыл бұрын

@@donaldalderman2424 the 2.7 would have easily pulled a car and car trailer. With a ‘72 olds cutlass and a uhaul car trailer the total would be around 5700 lbs, and my 2018 2.7, 3.55 gear will tow up to 7700 lbs

@p0weraid

Жыл бұрын

I tow 10k with my 2.7 And 3:73 gears just fine

I just bought a 2022 STX with the 2.7 and 3.73 gear set. Plenty of power, truck is a lot faster than I think a lot of people realize. Fuel economy is not even close to sticker though. 3500 miles on it and the best I've seen on the highway is 19 hand calculated. Around town 16ish. But its a truck, I can deal with it. And that's normal driving with no 0-60 runs. Biggest problem is the 10 speed. Picked up the dreaded shudder in 7th, 8th, 9th. That's really a shame too because the rest of the truck is pretty good. Rides and handles great and really quiet in the cab. Very comfortable driving position. However, that 10 speed is a deal breaker. Buyer beware. I'll probably trade mine for a 10 speed Chevy or the new Ram straight 6 twin turbo when it comes out later this year.

@BigTimeTrucker432

2 жыл бұрын

It’s the 3.73 gears then. I got a 2022 XLT with the 2.7 and 3.55 gears and I’ve gotten it up to 21 hand calculated and the outside temperature hasn’t even gone up yet where I live. These turbo motors lose a few MPG in the cold weather months. Once it starts warming up for summer that’s when the 2.7 should start to shine with the MPG. The 10 speed has bugs here and there. Mainly when it’s super cold outside and I just start it up and drive immediately and then decide to slow down to almost a stop it bangs into 1st gear on the first stop on occasion. Once the transmission starts warming up a little then it goes away.

@paulhunter9613

Жыл бұрын

@john K Is there a reason you haven’t taken your new truck back to the dealer so they can re program the trans? It will take care of the problem

@johnk6206

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhunter9613 Had it re-flashed once at 10,000 miles. Ran great until about 13000 miles. Now, at 14000 miles, shuddering just like before. F150 buyers beware. The Ford 10 speeds are junk.

@johnracki2258

8 ай бұрын

Ford and Gm codesigned the 10 speed together, same transmission in both brand trucks now except for the turbomax which has the 8 speed

i love this truck.

Just bought a 2022 3.5 just to use for 3-4 months till I can get a f250 hit the gas at a stop and the truck has 130 miles on it currently and blew both turbos and wastegate actuators smh and I told the salesman I want a 5.0 but I was desperate as I had a 19 2.7 and those turbos were burning oil from the turbos it was misfiring the cats where clogged and rear end was howling bad and it only had 40k miles and had the rear end and turbos replaced 2 times already and still problems maybe I’m just not meant to have a turbo vehicle lmao

@paulhunter9613

Жыл бұрын

You probably shouldn’t be driving anything at all..

I have 3.5 in my Lincoln Navigator what kind of problems should I expect with this thing? maybe I need to trade it on Cadillac

@DJR5280

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe some cam phaser issues. Just take care of it and it’ll take care of you. GM has problems too. The lifter failures on the cylinder deactivation is a big problem for them.

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

Just flood mood before you start it so it builds oil pressure before engine fires phasers will be fine this way

Very nice truck 👌👍🛻🛻🛻

the best engine they have for the f150. Most reliable too since they put out the 2nd gen. Unless you tow it's the no-brainer choice

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100% with you.

@jasonbrushett3

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree

@donaldalderman2424

2 жыл бұрын

You can still tow with the 2.7 fine.

@p0weraid

Жыл бұрын

@@donaldalderman2424 I tow 10k with 3:73 gears fine

Should by the 5.0 over both

Does it have Ambient lights

2.7 is the best motor ford makes right now imo

the 2018 10 speed was rough even compared to the 2021

My 2021 F150 with the 2.7 is at the dealer with a bad tranny at 7500 miles. It did average 23 MPGs before the tranny blew.

@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS

2 жыл бұрын

One of the thousands in the Ford service department 🤣

@tewksburydriver8624

2 жыл бұрын

@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS when you build almost a million F-150 trucks a year guess what... some will have issues. Law of averages. No excuse for a new truck to have serious issues, but realistically it can happen to anything with tires.

@justin5345

2 жыл бұрын

@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS this guys a troll , just post stupid stuff on Ford F-150 videos . 2.7 , 5.0 , 3.5 will beat your hemi with ease .

@pizzahunter808

2 жыл бұрын

@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS got lots of time to troll f150 videos on youtube with your ram always in the shop ya

@jaydog7428

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2021 2 .7 with almost 5,000 miles and I think something is wrong with my transmission too. Very clunky and feels like it doesn't wanna shift. Every once in a while I will get a bang going into 6th on the throttle.

What is considered heavy hauling? For the 2.7. I plan on getting a camper that weights around 5,000lbs. Is that considered heavy?

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

No worries. Pay more attention to your truck's PAYOAD CAPACITY, that's what is going to limit you. Is the 5000 lbs your GVWR or your dry weight? I tow a Freedom Express that has a GVWR of 6000 lbs with my XLT and my payload capacity is 1760 bs.

@markwheeler144

2 жыл бұрын

@CW CW yeah the camper is around 4800. Dry weight. Just not sure if the 2.7 can handle that once a year i would camp.

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

@@markwheeler144 PAYLOAD CAPACITY is your limiting factor, not the Ecoboost engine. The 2.7 L EB will have no issues with that size RV. For example.... your tongue weight will be about 6000 lbs x12%= 720 lbs. Plus your passengers, gear, stuff in the bed of the truck, weight of the weight distribution hitch, etc, etc. It all adds up. Find out your payload capacity for your particular truck. It will vary depending on the model and options. Good luck

@markwheeler144

2 жыл бұрын

@@cwqrpportable ok, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks

@donaldalderman2424

2 жыл бұрын

It's great for that much weight. That's not heavy. I would opt for the payload package.

I Loved Those 3 Engines Because They Fast. If You Want To Tow 7000 LBS You Don't Need A 3.5L EcoBoost V6 You Only Need A 2.7L EcoBoost V6 To Do That.

The 2.7 is about the same as the 3.5 but a bit less power.. The 5.0 is a V8 engine so that is the most expensive and more power. I like my 3.5 V6.. 💘 love it!!

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

The 3.5 is the most expensive engine option

@DirtyFastingLife

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattwagner8965 see I just learned something 🆕🙏🏾

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

@@DirtyFastingLife and the 3.5 is definitely better than the 2.7 you made the right choice

@DirtyFastingLife

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattwagner8965 thx so much... I was hoping I did.. Love my Ecoboost 🚚

@p0weraid

Жыл бұрын

@@mattwagner8965 that would be the 3.0 power stroke

I feel like I just watched the longest commercial in my life

2.7 is quicker IMO and better on fuel. So it comes down to are you towing heavy or not? If you are towing heavy go 3.5, if you aren't the 2.7 is plenty of engine for this truck.

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

You're right, the 2.7 is a sleeper isn't it?

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

The 2.7 shits and gets but it is not faster than the 3.5 lol

@tewksburydriver8624

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattwagner8965 … that’s been my experience, I’ve owned both lol.

@mattwagner8965

2 жыл бұрын

@@tewksburydriver8624 if you line up a 2.7 next to a 3.5 the 3.5 is faster no question

@tewksburydriver8624

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattwagner8965 ..maybe, but I can tell you driving my 2.7 it felt faster, more responsive. I don’t know why but it seemed quicker.

The 2.7 is great for light towing, but the 3.5 is better for anything else. The V8 was great, before the Ecoboost came out. The 3.5 is probably the best engine of the 3 though.

@jeffmorse5599

2 жыл бұрын

3.5 EB mpg while towing is complete trash. i tow 25 weekends a year and TBH wish i went with another silverado

@DEKOY82

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffmorse5599 with that much towing, you’d think you’d get a diesel. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you; the 3.5 EB is powerful, relatively fuel efficent and so so fast. All the EBs we've owned/own have been so reliable..... pleasure to own and drive.

@DEKOY82

2 жыл бұрын

@@cwqrpportable even the 2.7 is a good truck, just not for towing heavy loads.

@DJR5280

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffmorse5599 Why?

Have a 2018 f-150 with the 5.0 and in no way would i ever change it for a dyson lol. Whoever says the 5.0 doesnt have low end torque is wrong and it kind of mis leading. If you gun it, it will light the tires up. If you ease off the line and then floor it the transmissin will sometimes prematurely upshift making it feel like it lacks in torque, dealer will remove skip shifting and it helps a ton. Ive towed 4- 5,000lbs and it did just fine. Got about 14 mpg and stayed under 3k rpms. Couple this engine with an exhaust and it makes you never regret buying the v8. Cant say that about the ecoboost! Im not knocking the ecoboost as i think they are plenty capable but it just wasnt for me. As far as this guy saying dont pay over MSRP and just pay sticker? WTF how is this even ok? My 2018 has a 51k sticker and i paid 34k new! How would dropping 17k more be ok in what world? People with this mindset are fueling the problem.

but will the turbos crap out in 100k? the v8 will last forever

@pizzahunter808

2 жыл бұрын

Lol its not 1993. There's a guy on the f150 forum that got 465k outta his 2.7 before he traded it in. Way more issues with the 3.5 and v8

@YTsurferr

2 жыл бұрын

Change your oil, it will last just as long. Plus, have you driven the 3.5l? It is a blast.

You should buy the powerboost.

Payload under 1,500 pounds is silly low. Going to need more like 1,700 to 1,800 pounds or more to tow anything decent.

The issue with the 2.7 engine is the wet belt placed inside. Has anyone had issues with it?

I have a 2014 f150 FX4 5.0.A dealbreaker for me on the 2.7 is the plastic oil pan and drain plug.Cost cutting by the engineers is one thing but that idea is simply brain dead.Here in Ontario Canada the 5.0 adds $4,000.As a daily driver the 3.3 is not so bad but as usual,Ford has opted the delete that one for 2024 I assume to justify added cost.The 2014 FX4 has been A1 and will repeat.

The 2.7 is potent, but is really best suited for the Ranger. This engine is impressive. Awesome review.

@jasonbrushett3

2 жыл бұрын

Ranger? Its perfect in the F150

I had a '16 XLT with the 2.7 and an '18 XLT with the 3.5. 2.7 was fun to drive, more snappy in town. 3.5 was better on the highway above 70 in mpg. MPG overall was about the same, around 21.5. 2.7 was great until you get into the boost then the mileage suffered (obviously).

Some say Ben was a little to excited in this review

@BenHardyCars

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

Never buy a smaller engine that’s just dumb get the biggest engine they offer! No replacement for displacement

Drove a 2.7 and a 5.0 back to back and I would go 5.0 all the way. 3.5 may outperform the 5.0 but the 5.0 is plenty fast and the sound makes all the difference.

I don't believe I want anything to do with timing chain phasers. I've heard nothing but nightmare stories about them.

@cwqrpportable

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck finding a truck that has not ever had some issues