I enjoyed that description. It’s the equivalent of reading the back of shampoo bottles while you’re taking a dump

Throttle House at midnight? Hell yes!

@josemonsaji

3 жыл бұрын

Its "EXTRA" throttle house 😆🤣

@deeplycon638

3 жыл бұрын

You beat me to its extra

Everyone repeat after me: Climate Controls should all, and always be physical buttons and dials.

@SeanVedell

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yes!!

@andrelima5124

3 жыл бұрын

YES, YES INDEED

@ganymede3141

3 жыл бұрын

Elon enters the room: 'So, um, we're gonna replace the shifter with an on screen slidy thing, but the car will just guess which way you want to go. Either through your garage door or through the wall into your living room. It will be a surprise every time!'

@pranavm8233

3 жыл бұрын

Ehh no imo

@dirksteffen9375

3 жыл бұрын

ALL Controls should all, and always be physical buttons and dials.

This car has great potential however my Mom had one and within 2 weeks it suffered a complete electrical failure which rendered the car un-drive-able. The dealership had the car for a month until they identified the issue and she’s just getting it back this week. VW dropped the ball on this launch, they didn’t send out any equipment to the dealerships for any type of vehicle maintenance so most of the time they’ve had it is waiting for tools and parts.

@enyotheios2613

3 жыл бұрын

VW dealers never had parts anyway, from my experience. Had a few electrical failures on a Beetle and every time it was a month wait to get parts from Germany...

@pesto9

3 жыл бұрын

I had a TDI Sportwagen, great car once all the electrical system stuff failed and was replaced. (Among all the other stuff that failed). So to think of an all electric VW is frightening given their poor reputation for electrical reliability.

@conrado800

2 жыл бұрын

@@pesto9 I had a TDI Sportwagen as well. Sunshade failed, electrical failed, trunk latch failed, then the AC failed. Would not purchase again

@bmw803

2 жыл бұрын

@@conrado800 Have a 2013 TDI Jetta without any problems whatsoever. ID.4 isnt perfect, but certainly better made than Tesla. But Tesla is like a messiah, so they can screw anything up and followers will buy them anyway.

@zaneh6224

2 жыл бұрын

So it's no different to ICE VW vehicles, they never had the part no matter how small, never had some diagnostic tool, typical story of VW, I would steer clear of this until VW get their act together

Agree...Every EV dont need to be zero to 60 in 4 seconds. Some need to be slow and just able to do a purpose.

@diegomurillo2194

3 жыл бұрын

Then get a Prius.

@harsimranbansal5355

3 жыл бұрын

Here’s the thing, it costs almost nothing to make an EV accelerate quicker. Bigger motors are generally more efficient as well. The only downside is if you have a lead foot, then you’ll run through your tires quicker.

@RagnorBC

3 жыл бұрын

@@harsimranbansal5355 "it costs nothing to make an EV accelerate quicker" Yes it does. To do so, you need higher peak power. That isn't just beefier motors; you need to put in higher rating power electronics and wiring as well as a battery that can sustain that power draw without wrecking its lifespan.

@tbm275

3 жыл бұрын

I do not care if it hits 60 in 4 seconds. I would be fine with 6-8, but it has to have 300-350 miles of range standard for 25k before I would get one. Any electric car needs to meet that for mass market adoption, the average person can not afford multiple cars for long trips.

@harsimranbansal5355

3 жыл бұрын

@@RagnorBC battery can definitely sustain that much power, probably even more, its just the electronics that might need some work.

"This has less, of a, of a, whats the aero stuff called" "World class journalist right here" :D

I was today years old when I found out that the saying is: “dime a dozen” and not “diamond dozen”. This saying now makes more sense

@SeanVedell

3 жыл бұрын

Atta boy!

@liamstetson

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats! You're one of today's 10,000 lucky winners who learn something!

I think the Kia EV6 is gonna be what everyones been waiting for

@recoverymail269

3 жыл бұрын

I’m looking forward to EV6, but not sure if it’ll be better then Ioniq5... which is Ok, but also a bit disappointing at the same time.

@jesseweirmalave

3 жыл бұрын

@@recoverymail269 Ioniq looks really really good!

@IReahpZz

3 жыл бұрын

Yup that and the ioniq 5 are going to blow this away for the money.

@nothere572

3 жыл бұрын

@@IReahpZz Ioniq 5 price hasn't even been announced yet

@Keoponloeu

3 жыл бұрын

@@nothere572 It is announced but like in Korea tho. It’s about 40k usd. So I think the ID-4 is abit cheaper

“The more you use this, the angrier you get.” - James.

"It's a little stiffer than I thought it was going to be." THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!

Oh pff, you guys are going to love the interior on the the MK8 golf (sarcasm). It’s that same capacitive buttons everywhere. You guys should compare the “value” in a mk7.5 GTI vs. The mk8 GTI when it comes out and truly let us know which one is best. I have a feeling the MK8 interior is going to feel cheap. All thanks to dieselgate. VW has a lot of extra lawyers they need to pay now.

@MyRealName

3 жыл бұрын

.. and a lot of money they need to invest into making their cars more eco friendly because now they're being closely watched. not a great situation to be in, is it?

@dwade3202

3 жыл бұрын

yep, that golf and vw interior I wouldnt buy them just for that

@dougrobinson8602

3 жыл бұрын

And a charging network to boot. BTW- I hear the ID4 doesn't play well with the network that VW built. Why?

Intros on the main channel,outros on the extra channel never disappoint,boys. You never disappoint. 🖤

I would go for the Ioniq 5 over this. The long range preferred costs 52k in Canada and has a range of 488 km. It's also slightly quicker and has much better tech overall.

@0hypnotoad0

2 жыл бұрын

I'm cross shopping the two, I'm looking for primarily a work vehicle, that's good for remote camp sites, and good for road trips. ID.4 has some general advantages in areas you wouldn't think to look for in an electric car: It has more ground clearance out of the box (also, some companies already make 2" lift kits for it) it's trunk has a more durable fabric liner and optional rugged mats for carrying the type of gear that would normally scratch up the plastics, and it has a significantly higher tow rating than Ioniq 5, and comes with trailer light wiring and a tow hitch out of the box. I think ID.4 is better at the utility stuff you'd be looking for in an SUV or crossover. Whereas the Ioniq 5 has things that make it a better electric car - faster charging, slightly better performance, an impressive trunk and a small frunk space, but the lack of tow hitch, trailer lights, and low ground clearance cause issues when looked at as a utility vehicle.

glad y’all uploaded so late, I can’t sleep due to this horrendous sunburn.

I just bought an ID 4, for the reasons stated in the video, for everyday usage, it is perfectly fine. Mach E was a contender but the 3 years of free charging sealed the deal for me even though the Mach E is arguable the better car in some areas.

@catto9694

2 жыл бұрын

@Bladerunner2043 light years, lol... ioniq is better, so is ev6, no one cares about 0-60 in a damn family suv/cuv whatever this segment is. What did you drive, 3, y mach e and this? duh, y is better simply coz supercharger

The intros are pretty funny even in this channel just because of the one take description of what the channel is lol. Never fails to make me smile.

"If this is your flavor of EV... It'll taste... really... good." Hahahahahahahahahahahaha Best closing line EVER!!!!!

@ValiantRambler

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone's flavor is different. That's what makes us unique. No "one size fits all" . If it were, we'd all be droids. Glad to have that uniqueness. Not a bad scenario if you ask me. We won't all stand for being mindless droids...

@jocellynjuanillo561

Жыл бұрын

It would be more accurate if he had said, "It'll tase... really... underwhelming and below expectations."

Important note : The MachE starts at 50K…but to get an equally equipped ID4 AWD compared to a MachE, the VW is like 20K less because the Ford doesn’t qualify for rebates compared to the VW. So you better like that MachE a lot!

“It’s totally fine.” A ringing endorsement!

Definitely appreciate the stats in the description. Thanks guys.

Extra respect for this channel

Great review style. Laid back, relaxed and not too serious👍.

Excellent content and great review guys😎

This is the most unexcited you guys have been to do a review. Sorry you had to spend a week with this :(.

This channel is more fun than the first one

The tech where VW really excels is it's battery charging and management. No one can beat it on a fast charger.

You know it's not the main channel because there's no hilarious intro .... Also I can't wait till you guys eventually get your hands on the new Ford F-150 Lightning. Plz make it an actual fancy review k thx 😊 ⚡🌩️

I'm gonna be honest,i really like the way this car looks

These are the new Model 3/Ys of Silicon Valley...I've seen so many of these around in the past few weeks!

@magicwhipyester3264

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@Rythsi300

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t worry you wont see them for long once they are all back at the dealer for repair.

That is a nice spec on the ID4 n the wheel fitment looks spot on

the way those videos end.... it's just mega

Love the extra content.

Here in the states the ID.4 starts at $40k and the Mach-e starts at $43k. For that price difference the Mach-e is SO much more car. This was just a miss all around for VW, and I am a VW owner!

@michaelbuschmanable

3 жыл бұрын

Your statement is somewhat true, however the base mach-e gets less range, slower charging speeds, and simple small wheels and no led accent headlights. Not sure what else is stripped down. The base id4 has same battery pack, same charging speeds, 19 inch wheels instead of 20. If someone is a commuter, they might find the id4 base is a better value than MME base.

@joelpeterson2074

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbuschmanable That’s probably fair. I tend to think of these things from a drivers perspective, and as far as driving dynamics the Mach-e is in a different league. But these are grocery getting electro-potatoes at the end of the day, so whatever the soccer moms want will win out in the end.

@FernandoRodriguez-pj5uh

3 жыл бұрын

Disagree. The Mach-e is probably the ugliest EV in the market only beats the Prius which is not electric but it’s even uglier. Added to the fact that the base ID4 has much better features than the base Mach E

@YusufGinnah

3 жыл бұрын

Mach E starts at $50k, according to the video

@joelpeterson2074

3 жыл бұрын

@@YusufGinnah $50k (insert Yuri from Straight Pipes voice) Canadian. $43k in the U.S.

Great review! Super informative… any thoughts on reviewing the Cupra - Formentor?

Best automotive channel on KZread 👌

I turned the closed caption.... Love it when you guys say "Mach-E" it displays "mock e". Hahaha.

I drove one of these while waiting on my GTI to get some maintenance done. First electric car I've driven and it was weird. It was only a 10 minute drive, but I didn't totally hate it. I'm not really sure how I feel; this comment could be pointless. I'll just watch the video.

@joel89039

3 жыл бұрын

I just got a Chevy Bolt which is in the same territory as this but cheaper (2021 for 23k) and a little faster (0-60 in the 6s) and I love it so far. FIrst electric car and I am now looking at teslas for the next one lol.

@UltimaRSfan

3 жыл бұрын

James did say in this review, "... the more you drive it the more you hate it. "

@dungeontv7447

3 жыл бұрын

I find that this drives quite similar to a gas car, most of the other EVs I've driven are super weird I find.

@janoycresnova9156

3 жыл бұрын

Electric cars are still quite overpriced for what you get. I'm not paying $20k+ premium just because it is EV. Makes no sense cost wise. You'd have to basically live in it to recoup the difference.

@joel89039

3 жыл бұрын

@@janoycresnova9156 the bolt we got for 23k has adaptive cruise and lane keep. Compared to the cars in the upper teens it is nicer. Plus zero maintenance is nice

Bought the ID 4 Pro S for my wife as a daily driver. This EV is really really nice, its a hoot to drive. The controls are way easier to use than this video describes. Turning radius, torque, and comfort features truly make the ID 4 a fun car to drive. Highly recommend!

I knew I subbed for a reason (to see you guys more) my bro was talking about the channel.

Interesting video - But I have to disagree with the negativity on the ID4. I went from a Tesla S 85 Dual Motor, to the ID4 and it is so much easier to drive, park, and travel in honestly. Esp after driving a Model 3, the VW has a fun personality that the Tesla definitely does not imo. My only regret is not getting the AWD version because with EV torque, the tires get eaten up on non AWD models. Otherwise after 2 months with the ID4 Pro S, I really love it.

Not just the design is mind blowing!

awesome video I love you guys

Nice video guys 👌👌👌

My guages in my G35 move with the memory seats and I love it

absolutelky great as always :) Think I would like to test it against Mach-E

Great review! Keep ‘me coming! The lack of a frunk is just stupid and a wasted opportunity. EVs are still at a disadvantage when it comes to road trips, because of the recharging time, so they need every single possible advantage they can get over ICE vehicles. Ford gets this - the frunk in the Mach-E is substantial, and the frunk in the F-150 Lightning is massive. I guess this vehicle might appeal to current VW owners who just want a vehicle that’s as ‘normal’ as possible but has the core advantages of an EV: convenience, climate impact, reliability, lower total cost of ownership, less maintenance, quietness, smoothness, etc. Which is fine, but this is a missed opportunity to excite people about EVs.

@harsimranbansal5355

3 жыл бұрын

I think the only problem now is the infrastructure. There are people doing long journeys, like cross country trips in EVs and they say it doesn’t take longer than gas, the only problem is that some places they wanted to visit don’t have charging stations. Most EVs today will get you charged up within 20-30 minutes and thats usually how long you’d stop even in a gas car. Not good for people who pee in a bottle while driving but for most family roads trips stopping every 2-3 hours is not bad.

@josefv8708

3 жыл бұрын

A Model 3 has 30cm longer Front an with this easily a frunk. VW has choosen to have a shorter car and a lot of Space inside instead. The Id4 is 4.56m and would be 4.86m to have a frunk. The second engine for AWD will fill the entire Space in the front. No big Deal in US, but as World Car each cm makes a huge difference. If you find a parking lot in Europe you now what I am talking about Even Mr. Musk recognized in Berlin that US Cars are way too large for Europe. And the Argument that a frunk helps for the charging cabels, I can not follow, too. At home I use my Wallbox with a cable and on the Autobahn I use HPCs and they have all cables, too. In fact I never need to carry a cable.

@7spower998

3 жыл бұрын

@ Avi Flax 1) The frunk adds weight ahead of the front axle, making the vehicle a nose-heavy FWD vs tail-happy RWD handling vehicle. 2) No frunk means shorter F&R overhangs. 3) ID.4 smaller turning radius vs the Mach-E 33.6 ft. of (10.2 m) vs All 38.1 ft (11.6 m) except for GT - 39.7 ft (12.1 m) respectively. 4) ID.4 weighs less, 4665 lbs. (C&D verified) vs MAch-E 4807 lbs. (MT verified)

@baronvonjo1929

2 жыл бұрын

@@harsimranbansal5355 Other problems are price, long term reliability for used buyers.

Can some car company please make an EV that looks totally normal inside and out and not trying to be futuristic with only screens

@harsimranbansal5355

3 жыл бұрын

They have, they’ve done this for years, no one bought their car.

@josefv8708

3 жыл бұрын

Audi Q4...still screens but several physical knops, too.

For heated seats, you just tip with two fingers on the temperature slider.

@aaronmacy9134

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao that is ******* stupid. That’s like BMW expecting people to actually learn their knockoff ASL in order to use their idiotic gesture control. Instead, everyone’s just left wondering why NPR turns off whenever they wave to their neighbor. So, you go to tap the volume but hit a bump and accidentally hit it with two fingers and 5mn later you realize your ass is on fire. I’d burn the ID4 to the ground within a month of buying it.

@ValiantRambler

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaronmacy9134 Is it really that hard to figure out the two finger touch shortcut? Perhaps you're just used to using one finger and that's enough. It's cool. I remember when I used one finger...😂

This would still manage to get a Check Engine light for oxygen sensor faults 😂

Digging the Pumas Thomas.

Would be awesome if you guys can do a review on the new Ioniq 5

I'm wondering how's the A/C in the summer with that huge volume of glass in the roof, that doesn't appear to have any type of pull-out sun blocker/shade?

There are times I want a tablet, and there are times I want a car. I don't see myself ever wanting a car that requires using a tablet, albeit embedded in the dash, to operate it.

They've done the gauge cluster like that in power sports for many years. Makes sense to me

FANTASTIC STUFF

I’m waiting for the ID10T.

You can double tap with two fingers on the temperature sliders to activate your heated seats. Makes it much quicker.

@faeinthebay

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds neat but also so incredibly German. Like what's wrong with buttons?

@MyRealName

3 жыл бұрын

@@faeinthebay it's not exclusively german, that oh and what's wrong with them is that they're more expensive to make and people like screens nowadays, even in places where they make no sense. perfect for manufacturers, basically :)

@dougrobinson8602

3 жыл бұрын

@@faeinthebay No. It sounds exactly like an Apple product.

@faeinthebay

3 жыл бұрын

@@dougrobinson8602 No, in my opinion Apple is far worse. They like to keep core functionality simple while making side features like multi-window only accessible with a hidden gesture, not even a menu. But the idea definitely applies, VW is allergic to buttons and clear UIs.

Great review guys! I also reviewed the Volkswagen ID.4 in my channel and I was very impressed with the exterior! The interior was of selective taste!

I really wanted the ID3

Can’t wait for you guys to do the hyundai Iona I 5 and the Kia ev6

I have that same shirt Thomas I also have gotten a lot of use out of it!

The Clima is a 90s reference, when all their A/C units were branded CLIMAtronic (exact spelling)

I like this Throttle House Late Night Show. ( This comment makes sense if you have notifications on and are watching shortly after midnight. If you are reading in the year 2024 the time of day this review was posted might not feel too relevant. )

@recoverymail269

3 жыл бұрын

Or if you’re living on the other side of the world, maybe it’s 2 afternoon

@MyRealName

3 жыл бұрын

@@recoverymail269 or if you're living on the other side of the world and read this some afternoon in 2024, could also be 2 afternoon

Title on Der Fleek 💅🏻

There is a BIG difference between drag coefficient and drag. Frontal area X drag coefficient is what you compare to deduce drag characteristics... if my memory serves. (to lazy to look it up). Thus a short car with a worse drag coefficient can and likely will have lower drag. Intuitively makes sense, right?

I couldn't agree more. VW had an obvious win with their EV architecture but failed at the simple stuff they normally do so well; like the HVAC, window, and media controls. These are normally mindless interactions drivers have with a car but now made more difficult. Just because the EV powertrain is new, it doesn't mean we have to rethink every interaction with the car. Reminds me of the dumb door handle/buttons on the mach E. Also, I think the exterior of both the id3 and id4 are frumpy and boring.

Are you guys gonna review the 2021 acura tlx type s?

All those "little things" are things you do all the time. They will annoy you. ALL THE TIME. That's way worse than the engine being a bit slower than expected. Nothing is worse than constantly being annoyed because of stupid shit that could've easily been avoided.

@MyRealName

3 жыл бұрын

it couldn't "easily" be avoided. they go for lower costs and hope the market accepts it. when all the manufacturers do the same, they give customer no choice. all that money they saved will be invested elsewhere, probably into these new technologies because they're all a bit late to the party compared to tesla which is miles ahead and could be dominant in future..

@suserman7775

3 жыл бұрын

@@MyRealName While I understand your point, it kinda makes it seems like a manufacturer's talent level is never a factor. In this case, yes, VW would have had to invest a lot more money in software, in order to finish the product on time and before factory runs began. Why? Because the USA and Asia are better at software.

@flimgenco

3 жыл бұрын

@@suserman7775 I wouldn’t be so quick to get to that conclusion, that Europe or Germany is lagging behind in terms of software. Asia’s competitiveness is drawn from reputation today, and the USA simply has a lot more freedom in terms of handling of data that the EU strictly guards against. This is why there’s a good number of American apps and websites that aren’t permitted in the EU.

@suserman7775

3 жыл бұрын

@@flimgenco Yes I appreciate a ton of stuff that comes from Europe. But in more recent decades their love of enormous government really has a strong effect on both its software industry and auto industry. A lot of cars in Europe do 0 to 60 in 14 or more seconds. They decided to give hundreds of millions of people no choice but to buy a shit car, thanks to fuel taxes, so they could pretend to save the planet.

@flimgenco

3 жыл бұрын

@@suserman7775 if by “a lot” you mean the raw numbers, then the same would apply to Asia. And while north America maybe do produce faster cars, the carbon footprint really is excessive. Most of the population don’t need a big truck or SUV, yet most do.

i am leasing this car in 2 years. when i return my jetta i am picking this up

Here before 100k leggoo

That was a brilliant way to end the video 😂

9:15 “It’s probably just always going to work, right?” Uh...are you guys new to VW electronics?

@pesto9

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly...that's exactly their weakest point.

@DavidMortaz

3 жыл бұрын

Our TDIs keeps warning about the fog lights every other day!

@ragweedmakesmesneeze

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing. Now I don't want to be one of those, "All Subarus still have head gasket problems" people, but don't "All VWs have electronic problems?"

As a passionate advocate of bringing Dieselgate up every time someone mentions VW, I like this video!

What is a filter or advance called in the USA? A protected left turn?

I don’t see a purpose of the “extra” channel. From a business sense, you’re missing out on revenue due to lack of subscribers and views. This content is good enough for your main channel. Just brand it as the “non shalant “ review or something. Good luck, love the show

Howdy gents. Enjoy your program a lot. A question for you. Not necessarily specific to the Id.4, just about EV's in general. In regen mode, when you lift off the accelerator pedal. Do the brake lights illuminate as if you were actively pressing the brake pedal.

How come you have cooler cars on your casual backup channel?

Hey do a road discussion on the mustang GT 10 speed.

Why don't they have a flat section on the dash that you can attach custom buttons via strong magnets, that communicate to the car via NFC or Bluetooth? That way you can have your do-it-all screen, and if you prefer to have buttons/knobs, you can add as you desire? Except of basic HVAC and volume, that comes standard.

I work at a Volkswagen dealer and these cars are problem prone! We have one in service every single day. I’m a salesman, but everyone in service tells me they are riddled with electrical problems.

@Frank-fb4dt

Жыл бұрын

i have one since 6 month now 0 issues. i doubt you work at VW.

I don't understand VW's interior design language that is apparently is also influencing Audi's - which is capacitive touch elements with haptic feedback. It's like what's wrong with the regular buttons? Were there usability or reliability issues with those regular buttons on the steering wheel? Exactly what problems do those capacitive touch elements with haptic feedback solve???

just got mine a few weeks ago. . there is for sure a lot to improve, ...like in a Tesla. but... in daily use, it's a great car. drives very smooth, charging is fast and will improve even this summer. I think the Mach-E disqualified itself by the very slow charging rate at higher charging levels of the battery. therefor it needs more planning for a road trip. it's a typical Volkswagen: nothing is very much standing-out, fashion won't be its highlight, Tech won't be the newest and it's not the fastest.....but: The car is driving the way it should, building quality is great and if you need assistance , there is a place to go to. It's a car that is placed high in the mid range. not perfect, but definitely not bad. 7-8 out of 10. I drive it with a smile every day. it just works, special on the long distance where I use it mainly for. nice review !

The mechanical stuff in the front compartment are there to make it easier to repair things

Without physical buttons, you'll be out of luck if the screen quits on you. It's a VW, so it'll likely happen during a cold winter day right after your extended warranty runs out.

I'm more a truck guy but I do find these attractive

Can you talk about the Cadillac Lyriq ?

I don’t understand the fixed panoramic roof. I want a sunroof that lets in some air not just light

It looks boring and it's slow yet component. I absolutely love it.

Best ending yet.

A pano glass roof that can't be open is inferior to a pano moonroof that can!

Didn't the 350Z cluster also moved with the steering wheel? Clearly the public never thought it was a great :( I thought the same thing about the Mach-E being deadly to the ID.4

I hate the numerous unprotected left turns in Toronto. Good review though. 👍🏽

Toyota's 2020 RAV4 uses an ultralight aluminum hood (as well as front fenders, and rear hatch), all to save weight. Why can't VW use an aluminum hood to save weight too?

Fast forwarded to check out the happy ending before watching the review....

Great car!

It is a little hard to get used to regenerative braking but once you do, it's a can't-live-without feature. I'm giving this a pass mostly because I want the performance AWD wagon version of this. We could call it an...."R" maybe even.

James, it’s the Mercedes A-Class sedan, not hatch that’s the record holder.

@CP-vg4vy

3 жыл бұрын

The EQS now has the record with a Cd of 0.2

@harsimranbansal5355

3 жыл бұрын

@@CP-vg4vy same as the new Model S.

@CP-vg4vy

3 жыл бұрын

@@harsimranbansal5355 No Tesla has cd of 0.208

Will you guys ever do a video with Jacob and Yuri?

@harsimranbansal5355

3 жыл бұрын

I swear they did one once.

I got so excited that you weren't gonna explain what the Extra channel means... then I was let down

Relevant stats include weight, please and thank you