I'd like to see the 2500s tow the same load as the gassers so we could see the difference the money makes

@camonly849

5 жыл бұрын

I believe the Ford v8 towed about 8000 lbs for 4 mpg. Really this wasn't bad, 4k more pounds and it had better mpg. Put this on a moral level roadway and at sea level and you could squeeze maybe 10-12mpg out of it with the same weight.

@chrissagredo7129

5 жыл бұрын

They were 100lbs shy of the gvw in the 6.2 video. They’re the same here only the gvw is 200lbs higher on the diesel. From my understanding at least.

@morgancolton7399

3 жыл бұрын

Instablaster

my 18 6.7 f250 did on a 7 degree grade with a 10500 camper at 70 mph at 2800 rpms. and it wanted to go faster. on the way down same grade i actually had to speed up to keep up with traffic because of the exhaust brake. these trucks pull like freakin trains. this video convinced me to go with the ford and i dont regret it a bit.

Everyone and their mother has a king ranch/high Country /denali/etc video. Would be nice to see a nice breakdown of an XL or WT version of these trucks. For those of us not wanting to spend 80 grand on a pickup truck.

@noreason2701

7 жыл бұрын

Aaron Fullenwider they explain this nearly every video, they work with the trucks they're sent. If the company doesn't send them a work truck it's not their fault.

@aaronfullenwider3261

7 жыл бұрын

Generic Name I don't belive they couldn't get their hands on whatever model they want.

@J1I1M3

7 жыл бұрын

Well, start believing. The companies (Ford, GM, etc.) only have vehicles of their choosing as part of their media fleet.

@SteveLord

7 жыл бұрын

Better believe it. They don't just pick out trucks from the plant or a dealer.

@dchawk81

7 жыл бұрын

Aaron Fullenwider what's the point? Same truck only plain.

Hey TFL Truck Gang! GREAT video, as always! Please run the 6.2L Gas through its paces too. This is my next vehicle but I don't need the diesel. Thanks.

Proud owner of a 2017 F350 Powerstroke!!!

@Roger-to2mn

7 жыл бұрын

Carbon king you are funny You mean get pulled away by a tow truck

@wd8786

6 жыл бұрын

Funny, I just drove by a FORD truck on the side of the road. Should I stop and help??

I never understood the cost increase for the king ranch and platinum. 25k to 30k markup for leather power adjustable seats, power mirrors, leather panels on the dash, slightly more expensive paint, and a more expensive entertainment system. They use the same engine, trans, transfer case, axels, body panels (other than logo stamping) and the interior is the same minus the materials on panels. That's a huge markup for minimal gain. I would completely get it if you got better mechanicals with the price, but your buying stuff that really doesn't matter. Maybe I am just old school...

@bunz2197

7 жыл бұрын

Lake School Restoration Channel then get the lariat or xlt if you don't want all that technology.

@lakeschoolrestorationchann1567

7 жыл бұрын

Bunz21 everyone is free to get what they want, my comment was more towards how ridiculous it is to pay 30k more for what amounts to very little substance. If it had better engines/driveline/etc it would make sense. For example It's not like comparing a base model focus to a RS, the RS costs 20k more, but your getting almost 200hp extra, all new suspension/driveline, new seats/interior pieces, etc. That makes complete sense to me.

@adamg1180

7 жыл бұрын

Lake School Restoration Channel I agree 100%, in 5-7 years those plastic panels and pleather seat surfaces will hold no real value to the truck, it's all in the drivetrain. I'd rather have a good cloth interior with more power and capabilities than all of that on the inside. BTW, I'm old school like that too...

@bunz2197

7 жыл бұрын

Adam Gaines I agree with you here's another thing the new ford super duty's have a lot stronger under body then the Chevy and ram all Chevy did was put a really powerful motor into it and ram is still last in reliability the ford placed 1st to reach 200k with out issues Chevy placed 2nd, I don't think you can go wrong with the ford or Chevy but the ford has bigger under body components thing the Chevy and the ford looks better in my opinion.

@jholde04

7 жыл бұрын

Lake School Restoration Channel Agree 100%

Pretty good review, I am really glad you left Roman at home!

Nathan and Andre you guys do a great job. And i think that is the best truck in the world,

Proud owner of a 2015 F-350 KR. Love IT!!

Great review guys! How about a 2017 F250 6.2 Ike test?

I've been chevy and gmc all my life, just traded for 2 2017 250 diesels, we'll see how it goes. Never liked the look of them till now, they are great looking trucks.

@desertdieselgang7985

4 жыл бұрын

How are the trucks working out

Love the look of this vehicle. And I love the chrome and high ground clearance too. My favorite heavy duty truck by far. They should make the compact/midsize look just like this.

If only we could all afford one.

@rxonmymind8362

5 жыл бұрын

Between my wife and I we make a very good income. I still wouldn't buy it. Now it's 2019 I'll wait another year or two to buy this 2017 model and call it good. I'll ride it till my retirement.

i’ve hauled horses up that section of i-70 dozens of times. it’s pretty damn rough. just bought a 2017 f250 powerstroke and it looks like i won’t dread going over eisenhower anymore lol

It's good to finally see you guys towing everyday, realistic loads.

I could be wrong....but shouldn't the hooks for the chain criss cross...and go in through the top of the opening, not the bottom?

@derbyjr

7 жыл бұрын

D Jay T you're not wrong, they should criss cross. They didn't hook it up right

@alphonsotate2982

5 жыл бұрын

YES

@nmelkhunter1

5 жыл бұрын

You are 100% correct.

Everyone in our crew appreciated when they started leasing diesels. They made short work in the rockies passing the caravans.

I don't much care for Ford, but I like the style of the F250 and F350. I do appreciate your outro in the video. You don't cover up your video with the links to the other videos. You actually bothered to move your video to the corner of the screen so we could still watch. Far too many people just cover up that last 15 seconds of their videos with the links - after KZread revised the method for allowing links to be displayed last year. I love your videos.

I love you guys videos all the way around but have wondered for a while now, why don't you use cruise control set at the speed limit for Ike Gauntlet? That way every vehicle will preform the same and eliminate human error. You could even set the cruise on a different area prior to starting and then hit resume at the yellow merge sign to get an across the board even test. Just a thought.

Test the 6.2 please. In fact test the 2017 f250 6.2 against Kents 6.2 just to see if there is improvement like ford states

@dearmeat5386

7 жыл бұрын

Shackles totally agree myself need a full review of the 6.2

@mikehaslett3738

4 жыл бұрын

There is a big difference. The 11-16 6.2 feels pretty anemic compared to the 17-20

Thanks for pointing out the trim issue nathan good job and great video keep up the good work.

Nathan not sure why you dislike the hard surfaces I see the hard plastic as a plus for cleaning , durability and especially 15 years down the road when some kid buys it throws some armor all on it and its as good as new

@NathanDAdlen

7 жыл бұрын

Other plastics exist that are just as easy to clean, but are much thicker and, frankly, altogether better, Plus, the fitment of the plastic is poor.

@Roger-to2mn

7 жыл бұрын

Nathan I can totally understand if they don't fit correctly because that's part of the reason I dislike square fender wells over round tires and again its just my opinion but I like the hard plastic dash boards and the door panels are fine with me too. The trucks with soft materials where working men lay their sweaty arms on the door panels after a day of work wears and discolors the soft material out faster

test the 6.2!!!!

@BreckoniousMaximus

7 жыл бұрын

I second that. Bring on the 6.2!

@TheBakeryism

7 жыл бұрын

with the 4.30s testing the 250 and 350 would be great too since they are different transmissions

@MrBuddyballs79

7 жыл бұрын

Let's see the 6.2 tow the same trailer for a true comparison. Not everybody needs 925 ft lbs of torque!

@RideWithJosh696

7 жыл бұрын

yeah at the flywheel....not the wheels, ford always does that so youre losing probably 10% from there to the wheels lol.

@coreyrandall7610

6 жыл бұрын

They all "do that"

TFL There is a lot of confusion about the max trailering of the trucks and the payload could you clarify why your numbers are different from the manufactures

1 application of the brake??? That's insane. But how come it doesn't have the TFLtruck of the Year award? It did extremely well!

I like that manufacturers are adding auxiliary switches because they know a lot of folks will deck out their truck with accessories

Nathan- The "Fawn Leibowitz" color on the Ford?! bwahaahaaa! I wonder how many other people got that? hehe

I don't follow Dodge or Chevy as closely, but don't they share a cab between 1500 and HD series? He acts like his mind is blown that Ford is doing that but I'm pretty sure that most everybody does that to save costs. Also, I hate to be the one to break it to him, but a $76k truck is going to share some features with the work trucks (XL). Which means a panel or two will be plastic. They aren't going to add 2" of padded rubber covered to suede on every body panel inside a King Ranch. Both the cab sharing and the cheaper parts of the interior are to save money. Neither one of these are news in the HD truck industry

In what trailer configuration could you ever pull 15,000 lbs and not go over the GVWR of 10,000 lbs? Seems like its a number for marketing to me.

Anyone complaining about them not testing base model gasser trucks needs to understand that they do not choose the trucks the manufacturers send them. They can ask for a truck but if they don't get sent one they can't test it.

Love the Rockies hat Nathan! keep up the good work guys

I am impressed with how well the PowerStroke goes downhill..... Usually, they wait until after the warranty.

I have one and I couldn’t agree more. This coming from a guy who’s driven GM for the past 20 years.

Not everyone can afford a diesel where are the f250 and f350 6.2 gas review of towing?

@alphonsotate2982

5 жыл бұрын

YES

hey guys love the video but we all can afford a 80k truck can you do a gas 6.2 XLT 4x4

@SteveLord

7 жыл бұрын

Explained many times. The makers choose the trucks and often the higher trims to show off the most options possible.

Andre, very relaxed, natural person. great review.

@TFLtruck

7 жыл бұрын

+Stuart Marshall Thanks!

such a bad ass truck. thank you guys for doing the test! great video!!

i think u need to test the 6.7 Ford F350 dully again.

@bunz2197

7 жыл бұрын

Jan Bartos I agree.

@Trevorl-fo7vr

7 жыл бұрын

Jan Bartos yep, just make sure it's not the same they used with the three different dually's. Something seemed wrong with it.

@yoddy0

7 жыл бұрын

Well it's a Ford of course something seemed wrong with it. Lol all jokes aside the numbers didn't seem to add up so hopefully there will be more runs and possibly at its full capacity this time since everyone was bitching about it. They are all great trucks btw

@chadharmon5716

7 жыл бұрын

A guy you don't know making fun of Ford is easy when you are jealous

@Trevorl-fo7vr

7 жыл бұрын

All I know is I have two fords combined over 300,000 miles and both running great.

FYI the manual lockers are a backup for autolockers.

If I spend $10,000 on my 7.3 idi non turbo I would have a better truck than any $80,000 modern vehicle hands down. Let's talk about this truck in 30 years.. Compared to the idi which is completely bomb proof and still going.

I understand that hooking up the chains is a little annoying if it doesnt just hook in but im not basing my purchase on if the chains hook up easy. I, personally, wouldnt care if you stopped that segment of the videos. Thanks.

I tune out every time Nathan starts talking about hard plastics. I don't like the soft touch surfaces. They are hard to clean and easy to damage. Also, I guess Nathan does not know that the current F150 cab is larger than any Super Duty exclusive cab before it... I am glad they reviewed the diesel. I don't get buying a 3/4 or 1 ton gas truck...

Torsion hitch is $200 my drop down hitch extremely heavy duty no rubber crap at$150 and was worn out in a 2 years. I can't imagine if you actually pull everyday how long it would last with a torsion hitch

You guys should test a 6.7 vs 6.2 with a 10000 lbs trailer each one following the other that would be awesome and would make our life much easier when deciding which one to buy gas or diesel.

I dont think nathan knows what wipe open throttle means. At the end he said he could have went faster but when they were measuring sound he said it was wide open throttle

I agree if you spend 70k plus, the fit and finish should be great. But, performance is my biggest concern. I plan to buy the F250 diesel this year.

WOW, just think how well the Cummins would do here. Remember the Dyno Competition video?

The thing I hate about this channel is your inconsistency in your tests. If you're going to test for things like fuel milage in a truck vs truck comparison, you need to have as close to the exact same conditions as possible. Same guy driving the truck, same overall final drive ratio for flat ground mileage tests, same total combined weight, same rear gear ratio for hill climbing and mpg while climbing, same atmospheric conditions. Fuel milage is the final result of many factors like the ones I've listed but the single, and usually largest one, is the nut behind the wheel. If you accelerate wide open and then pedal drive it, you're going to have a completely different result than if you accelerate at a modest rate and then turn on cruise control. I understand not all trucks are smart enough to be able to be left on cruise control and so in that case the nut is just going to have to do their best job. Overall though, most cruise controls are way smarter and more efficient than any human could ever be if a constant speed is your desired test medium in obtaining mpg. You guys just have way too many variables in your "tests" for them to be considered accurate in head to head testing and so they are misleading at best, and flat out dishonest at worst. I know that it's impossible to have a truly exact head to head test but you need to try to take out as many variables as possible. The only variable that should and needs to exist is your personal feelings on each truck about what you liked and what you disliked.

loaded and unloaded MPG loops please!

You guys should do a test of the new F-250 with the XLT package for those of us who don't want to spend $76,000 on a new truck.

@Icutmetal

6 жыл бұрын

Offroad 101 And that would offer more validity in a towing test how?

I read on the Ford site that max towing for this truck is 18,000, not 12,500

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, I’m learning. The reason they couldn’t tow more than 12,500 pounds (besides the trailer not being strong enough) was because they maxed out the GVW of the truck? So how could the truck tow 15,000 pounds without exceeding this number? (10,000 lbs.)

@MikeNaples

5 жыл бұрын

The reason is that particular F250 has very little payload capacity. 2080 lbs is not much payload for a heavy duty truck. My F150 is rated at 2037 lbs payload. The payload in this vid gets used up by the tongue weight of the trailer which should be ~10-15% of the weight of the trailer and the two riders. That truck can pull a mountain, just can't carry it. The companies usually publish max stats though they will vary vehicle to vehicle.

Hello TFL Truck, when can we expect to see the Cummins & Duramax 3/4 ton Ike runs? In the works?

Why all the hate for chrome? I love it!

@tommytruth7595

5 жыл бұрын

Chrome is good.

The B-Roll in this video was incredible. The production of this channel has evolved so much since the beginning.

Why is the payload only 2000 pounds????

@TFLtruck

7 жыл бұрын

+Mc13oner Because the truck weighs 7,920 lbs and GVWR is 10,000 lbs

Id like to see the same hill test with a tuned and deleted version of the same truck

Was this truck equipped with air bags? Rear of truck looked extremely level for being fully loaded...

The chrome looks good on this truck

My little pet peeve is that it's called a super duty and a stamp in the body everywhere.

How hot did the trans get?

Hey guys, how come no material on the F350, the single tire that is.

Hey guys like the vids great work, is there any possibility of doing an Ike gauntlet challenge towing a travel trailer, 5th wheel I just bought a travel trailer an would like to see comparison of sway etc... Thanks

Can manually lock the front hubs, but it still has shift on the fly

We have a 6.7 powerstroke at work . It has had so many problems. Thousands and thousands of dollars in repairs. Also have 2 6.7 cummins. The cummins have had almost no problems just the def systems once or twice and they have more miles!! I would never ever buy a power stroke for personal use

@dedreman2227

6 жыл бұрын

double eagle funny, oboists exist for us. The Cummins have been tons of problems. Number 6 cylinder dropping.

@grassgobbler7214

6 жыл бұрын

My 08 cummins is a piece of shit.

Did the King Ranch editions replace the old Eddie Bauer editions?

any chance you guys can test the super duty's and HD's in gas configurations.

where are the cup holders in the second row seats if 3 people are there?

i tried looking into other trucks they dont look the same and i dont get excited as much i do with ford i guess im a ford guy at heart.

You guys should show the scores for other trucks in the class so we get a perspective for the scoring system. 85 points means nothing to me.

Nathan. Can't help but notice the shaking in your voice as you go down the hill! Lol. How you like that FX4 package dawg?! By the way andre'. The FX4 package will make it ride rougher down the highway, not smoother.

Was the exhaust brake engaged throughout the drive or just prior to needing it?

BIG BLUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE huge powerstroke fan

Hi guys love your show can you guys tell me if height on 2016 f150 limited is same as 2017 f250 super duty . if it will fit in my underground garage

Man what a difference 4 years makes. How much more can they tweak these things.

Why is the FX4 package $1000 less on the 250 than the 150?

time to start changing your scoring system since trucks are getting so good.

these guys do great reviews but trucks these days are like a plush living rooms on wheels, i dont think id ever want a truck newer than 2000, but its still neat to see the stuff they come out with.

it has esof the hubs are auto with a man lock option

i am just wondering what the rear end is in this truck

It's sad that the truck needs a weight distribution hitch to sit level with that load. Not enough truck in my opinion if it needs a wdh

Image if fit and finish were spot on. Not to mention the stupid chain hook receiver being a bit too big...I mean REALLY! Its the little things that piss me off. However, engine and trany combo is now fairly advanced (finally).

love the panoramic roof

TFL Truck, what were the headlights doing ? It looks like the headlights have strobes in them. And not a big fan of chrome?! Lol I thought everyone likes chrome

My 19 f250 Lariat Crew Cab 4x4 Diesel is the best pick for the money. (See my vids of it)...it has Heat/cooled leather, power everything, snow plow pkg, dual alternators, rapid heat supplemental heater, all for sticker price of $66,950. If you don’t do 20” wheels and sunroof and Lariat ultimate pkg and the tailgate fold step, you can still be out the door for under $66k for a 19. There’s no reason to go to $76k and more ...you don’t get enough extra value for the 10 grand. I put sweet LED headlights in for most all the exterior lamps. You don’t need Fords $1300 LED package or Adaptive Cruise for $7000 lol That should be free by now, all the new dumb Toyota’s have it included standard lol

Don't take off points for fit and finish. Base it only on towing performance.

6.7 is best in the biz right now

Is it frecking awesome?

What's wrong with hard plastic

@bunz2197

7 жыл бұрын

Bad Drivers of Hurst Euless Bedford nothing wrong with hard plastic and it last a lot longer than soft stuff.

@otm646

7 жыл бұрын

Bad Drivers of Hurst Euless Bedford At this price point it should have near Range Rover interior quality materials not plastic from the base truck.

@otm646

7 жыл бұрын

You may give Range Rover a hard time for their mechanicals but their interior quality is top notch. When you're paying this much for a truck with an identical drivetrain to the base truck your money should go somewhere besides the chromed plastic badge.

@OverlandTT

6 жыл бұрын

Bad Drivers of North Texas Fisher Price springs to mind lol

What does Ike gauntlet mean?

Why is the subjective on this truck so much higher then you gave the 350? They are the same interior.

@NathanDAdlen

7 жыл бұрын

They have a different ride, feel and overall - the 250 felt better,

@BamaShinesDistillery

7 жыл бұрын

Well, looking at all of your vids, the GM and Dodge are consistent. The Ford, not so much. The 450 looked like it handled the 30k like a boss, the 250 handled 12k with no issues. Do you not think something was off with the 350 test? You stated its sluggishness with 22k is why you gave it such low scores, with no mention of the interior like you did here(and they should be identical with the only differences in small detail). I would like to see another run with the 350 at that weight, or better yet, it and the dodge and max capacity to see if the Ford is just set up to run that way.

@NathanDAdlen

7 жыл бұрын

starcommtrey We've discussed it. I want to see what the Ford will do maxed-out. It will depend on what Ford and Ram have scheduled for us.

@BamaShinesDistillery

7 жыл бұрын

That would be awesome, also, FWIW, I really appreciate the education you give people on what vehicles are actually rated to tow. It is nice knowledge to have.

What truck has received the highest score ever?

Try the 6.2L gas engine

Cost as much as a house I agree on the fitment issues

@TR33ZY_CRTM

7 жыл бұрын

CamperMike If cost is your concern, then don't buy a high end model.

@johnw391

7 жыл бұрын

CamperMike must be a small house or a tralior

@ih1206

7 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Watts depended on where you live. You can buy a really nice 1500 sq ft house in my area for $40k. Prices come down a lot when you get out of the cities.

@spamfried894

7 жыл бұрын

+ih1206 The rate of people marring outside the family also comes down a lot when you get out of the cities.

@dchawk81

7 жыл бұрын

ih1206 I'm not in a city and 40k only gets you a mold infested dump.

All of these trucks nowadays have SO MANY things to go wrong in the future!

Andre, manually locking front hubs??? On a 2017?

@johnwheeler1209

6 жыл бұрын

Omar is Rad they are just incase the electroics fail

This would be cool to compare to the 6.2

What’s the song that starts at 5:35?

I love the color.

What I find amazing is that this truck burns as much diesel as a Peterbilt with a Cat engine running 80K lbs.