Thanks for the video guys. KZread is a DIYer's dream as we help each other out. I just did this job on my 2008 Jetta Wolfsburg 2.0T FSI with 120kmi. I'll add my thoughts as it might help someone out. I'll hit the points using the timeline in this video. 4:27 - You can leave those hoses on as they really don't get in the way. 5:21 - On the Jetta, this hole is essentially useless, but I was hoping it wasn't! 8:45 & 9:10 - This is the hose you want to take off. Remove the clamp and then carefully work a small pick around the inside of the hose to break the glue loose. Shouldn't take much effort. 13:09 - You don't need to take the motor mount bracket out!! Here you can see as far as you need to move it. You can get the bolts in/out, cover off, the belt off, access the tensioner, idlers, and water pump! Plenty of room for tools and torque wrench with the bracket in this position. 19:59 - Lubricate the water pump o-ring first so it doesn't potentially tear on installation plus it's easier to move back and forth to line up the bolt holes. 21:40 - Clean the crank sprocket of all coolant that may have gotten on it. 25:52 - Don't bother with the bracket and save the time, frustration, extra work of moving A/C lines etc, and cussing! lol Do the right thing if you can afford it and replace the TTY bolts. Good luck!

@freakyfrank1549

3 жыл бұрын

How long did this job take you? I have a tight schedule right now that will only get tighter If my timing belt breaks

@baxrok2.

3 жыл бұрын

@@freakyfrank1549 I took my time since I wasn't in a rush. So, five or six hours I'd say. Not dicking around with the motor mount saves a bunch of time.

@158158cow

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you SO much for your additional comments (and to @FearlessMods for the video). I tackled this myself in a day and a half, including some other maintenance. I left the inner motor bracket in place and it saved me a lot of hassle. The plastic timing covers are a royal pain - honestly my biggest gripe with the entire job. My additions: - ECS Tuning has a great document with torque specs and such. It's their Audi A3 2.0T installation guide. - Removing the spark plugs will make it easier to crank the engine manually. I replaced my spark plugs and coils while I was under the hood. Ensure the engine is free of debris before doing this. - Removing the cam position sensor and tensioner gives a bit more room on the front of the engine. The lower tensioner bolt can only be removed if the tensioner is held fully open. I cut a large nail down to length and used that as my dowel pin to hold the tensioner open. Remove the lower bolt first and then the front upper and lastly rear upper. The front upper can stay in the tensioner if you plan to reuse it. - Removing the hot side (pre-intercooler) charge pipes is helpful. I had to replace 2 o-rings on them as I had an oil leak there (failed PCV = oil in intake). - Installing the timing belt can be a bit frustrating to get right the first time. Triple check that everything lines up before firing up the engine, especially after you put the crank pulley and covers back on. - I only needed 1 gallon of 50/50 mix to top the system back up, since it's not a full system flush

The mans at home doing a belt change and offering a video as help to other people for free and you’ve still got keyboard warriors criticism throughout the comments....some propper sad acts on here

I've been searching for an FSI video for ages. Plenty of TSI vids, but my 06 2.0t needs a belt job. Thanks.

Strong work guys. Like others have said, one of the few FSI timing belt videos anywhere. Thanks for taking the time. I have a MKV GTI and I'll be tackling this sometime this winter or maybe spring if I try to push it.

You can lock the tensioner in place with a pin. Use a 16mm wrench on the top of the tensioner then slide a "pin" in the hole. That way you can get the 3rd tensioner bolt out

thanks for the video; will definitely let the mechanic take care of this one

@kammullan3637

4 жыл бұрын

Haha

@daraprak6498

3 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂😂😂

Thanks for making this video. Just did the timing belt on my 06gti last night. Watched this video 3 times to get acquainted and remembered every step without having to use my manual. Went flawlessly. Please keep making repair videos of the gti :). For others: Only thing I didn’t do was remove the 3 lines connecting to the hpfp, etc. I choose to remove the pcv and take the bolts off the IM. This allowed enough room without having to worry about breaking hoses, etc.

Awesome job showing us what to expect. Pretty similar to the MK4 except they added two guides. Also, a 5/8 socket is the same size as 16mm for those that don't have one.

Thanks for the informational and entertaining video. Wish I had my old man helping me out whenever I needed help on my GTI, Can't wait to get this timing stuff done.

Thanks for having the foresight to record and post- I can see that the kit instructions seemed to miss a few VW/VAG peculiarities/Might be able to find snippets of the factory manual for torque specs online to ensure important parts are in spec and as someone else pointed out VW uses stretch bolts in places and it’s worthy to note which ones should be replaced and not reinstalled - really appreciate that this was posted - thank-you again for recording and posting

@FearlessMods

6 жыл бұрын

Happy to be of assistance @JC M. Thanks for watching!

Great vid guys helped a lot. Doing a Seat Leon FR in the UK. Pretty much the same and the hard part really is just that bracket "beast". I've got the new belt on but just run out of daylight. I've been following the Haynes manual and it suggests removing the driveshafts, disconnecting the exhaust and the other engine mountings while supporting the engine with a hoist. Seeing this video helped me realise the bracket CAN be removed without lifting the engine out. Only thing doing it this way was that my plastic timing belt covers have suffered a bit of damage by yanking on the bracket.

Thank you for your time to make / post the helpful video. I'll be doing this work next week on my 2008 GTi too :-)

thanks for posting this up man, im getting ready to do my timing in my 08 gti so this will help alot.

Hey bro you guys rock! I used your videos multiple times for my B6 Passat much love 🤘

Thanks for the video guys. Really appreciate it. Made my life much easier when I did my belt on my 06 gti.

@FearlessMods

5 жыл бұрын

You bet Yash. My favorite videos are the ones that help others do it themselves and save a buck!

YOU ROCK! I shared it w/ forum, you can expect a ton more views start to end!

Just did this today, motor mount is not as tricky as these guys make it out to be.. do not be scared!! Remove upper and lower timing covers first.. remove dogbone mount to allow you to jack engine higher... came right out. I did not have to release the AC lines.. However, i did disconnect the hose you pointed out at 8:47. Basically just follow the install guide ecstuning has.. they do the job on a audi a3, but its basically the same exact thing.

@wesleyhurd3574

6 жыл бұрын

chris studi Do you have a link to the ECS tuning guide that you mentioned?

Thanks for posting this! I was looking inside the engine bay of one of these the other day and I noticed the timing belt is on the side and I was curious how the heck that could be replaced (considering on an Audi the whole front has to be taken off to access the timing belt).

Nice work - helped a lot!

You can use an open end on that tensioner and loosen it that way, and then stick an allen or torx key in the hole to keep it loose.

thank you this will be my spring project :) already saved it for future refence

Thanks for video; valuable info.

This has to be one of the most complicated videos I’ve ever seen on fixing somthing on a car , not even if I were a mechanic I would try this

anyone know what the part he is talking about that he "had a little problem with" at 4:22-4:38? Had a little problem myself, have to order a new one :(

Guys , can this belt cause a cyclic rattling sound? It seems to be coming from under the belt cover. However it lasts only about 5 min after starting the car and goes away after that?

Good work. 👍

Always crack the fuel cap to vent pressure to stop the fuel getting pushed out the hose.

How often should this be done? Thank you!

One of my bolts stripped doing this I need help

I think the 4 engine mount bolts are stretch bolts so should be replaced as well, at least that is the advice for my Audi with this 2.0 engine. Great video, nothing really scary for the diy mechanic except getting everything out the way to get access to the belt.

@novi0974

4 жыл бұрын

Not at all .. be careful what they try and sell you

THE TUBE AND HOSE THAT ARE GLUED CAN BE EASILY REMOVED BY CREATING SOME SPACE WITH A SCREWDRIVER THEN SPRAYING GOOF OFF IN THE RECESS AFTER WORK THE SCREWDRIVER AROUND THE PIPE & HOSE AND IT WILL SLIDE OFF. GOOD LUCK PEEPS.

@baxrok2.

4 жыл бұрын

That's not really necessary, just take the clamp off and drag a small pick around the inside of the hose to free it up. Don't go full gorilla on it since you don't want to damage the hose or pipe.

The best way to get the front mount 2nd part off is to remove battery, battery tray, shove a 2nd jack under the gearbox, undo the Dog bone mount, undo the rear mount under battery and then lower the gearbox and lift engine. Easy, It don't take that long.

Have you ever had to change the timing chain tensioner during the same period of time?

@FearlessMods

6 жыл бұрын

Nope, we didn't do the tensioner.

Awesome video cheahhh

Im sure ive seen a video of the belt being cut all the way round to remove half its width Sliding the new belt on then cutting the remainder of the old belt off Is it possible for this method to work

@FearlessMods

2 жыл бұрын

Well now that's an interesting concept. Could it work? I suppose, but I've never attempted doing one that way!

How frequently is the belt on that engine replaced? I know there’s an X amount of miles but how many years in between replacements?

@FearlessMods

6 жыл бұрын

From a quick web search, a UK forum was saying 60K mi/4 yrs for the MK5 GTI. It also seems this engine has an interference design, so a broken belt will likely result in bent valves. Hence the need to replace it as preventive maintenance.

Jack engine up slightly then comes out easier good vid mate👍

wow quite a lot of job.. more complicated than i expected 😅 on average how long do u think would it take for a beginner to do the whole job?

@FearlessMods

5 жыл бұрын

Not sure I'd recommend it for a beginner. Depends what you mean...haven't done a timing belt but have done a lot of other repairs? Then I'd say you could tackle it with a friend over a weekend. If you're truly a beginner that hasn't done repairs on cars besides changing oil or rotating tires...my advice would be take it to a mechanic.

Could replacing the water pump have made my knock sensor go bad? I just got the water pump changed, drove less than 100 miles, and the knock sensor is bad code P0327.

@FearlessMods

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think it would do that but maybe it was damaged during the work?? Probably just went bad unrelated.

Okeey, on what period of time should we change the Timing Belt and Water Pump?

@FearlessMods

3 жыл бұрын

Good question. Best answer is to check the manual for your particular vehicle under the extended (dealer) maintenance schedule.

Can you tell me if the coolant bled all the air out it self? Did you leave the coolant top off wile it was at edle?? Till it warmed up to normal temp.

@FearlessMods

4 жыл бұрын

Jerry Nosowsky, its been a while, but I seem to recall that we did do that. Just kept it topped off whenever it needed it. It also seems like we actually had to drive it a time or two before it finally sucked all the fluid in and then we had to fill it back up. Be sure to check often until you've put the same amount of fluid in that you took out (clean fluid, of course!) Good luck!

@jaynosowsky9708

4 жыл бұрын

@@FearlessMods thanks for getting back with me.😄

@dakotasimons1179

3 жыл бұрын

There's a bleeder to bleed out the air instead of leaving the cap off but 90% of the time living the cap on or letting it warm up slightly and cracking the reservoir lid will let the air move to the resevor more quickly but be careful with the bleeder they EASILY break...

Hello mate I didn’t see you use a locking tool ? For the cam gear do you even need one ? Thanks

@FearlessMods

4 жыл бұрын

At 11:30 I line up the cam and at 14:15 I mark the crank. There may be a locking tool, but I used these marks to ensure alignment in lieu of having such a tool.

@robberhd3218

4 жыл бұрын

FearlessMods Ok mate so you can’t go wrong as they need allot of force to turn anyway right

@FearlessMods

4 жыл бұрын

@@robberhd3218 LOL, never say never! But yes, as long it hasn't already slipped the belt and if you are careful not to move anything while the belt is off, you'll be putting it back in the exact right orientation.

Often easier to thread the belt on without the small bearing fitted. Then just fit it before tensioning the main bearing. Hope all my advice helps. Ive done a few now.

Hi how often you will need to do this belt and water pump service on this engines ?

@FearlessMods

6 жыл бұрын

I hope that this will be the first and last time we have to do it! I would say that 100,000 miles is when you should start thinking about it.

@jessicah3450

2 жыл бұрын

The water pump on mine failed at 53k miles, it is a pretty common problem.

Should you flush the coolant before you start or just let it drain out and replace what you lost?

@FearlessMods

6 жыл бұрын

If you have the ability to flush, probably not a bad idea at this mileage. However, we didn't bother with the additional steps/work and it's fine just to drain and refill since we weren't cross-contaminating with oil or anything.

@devidanemis962

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the quick answer and a thanks for the video.

Would it not be easier to remove the motor itself and then change the belt, tensioner and water pump?

@FearlessMods

5 жыл бұрын

Yaqeen Alexander LOL...damn near!! 🤣🤣

@yaqeenalexander4052

5 жыл бұрын

@@FearlessMods I wish someone asked me that when I did my cambelt change on🙈🙈

@wesleyhurd3574

4 жыл бұрын

In a sense, it would be easier. However, you would need to disconnect a lot more hoses and electrical cables. Removing the engine from the car would add several more hours to the job and would require more equipment.

What did you torque the timing belt tensioner down to

@Buthos

5 жыл бұрын

21:27 ...19ft-lbf

Did you reuse the motor mount bolts?

@urbanfireblade

4 жыл бұрын

The 4 vertical mount bolts are stretch bolts and must be replaced. From Audi dealer they are £26.50 for the 4 bolts, presume VW dealer will cost the same as its the same engine, mount, etc.

Is necessary use the timing belt cover or not??

@poliveri0722

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. You do NOT want anything finding its way in to the timing belt, and the cover offers some protection.

Where is the turbo placed in this car?

@danielneves6729

5 жыл бұрын

Mantas Jakubonis when you're standing in front of the car it's at the back on the left side (firewall)

How many hours to do this job? Important details

@FearlessMods

4 ай бұрын

So long ago, but I think we did it in one day. Probably 6-8 hours.

Be very careful to inspect the sprung tensioner and observe the arrow for the correct way to spin it. On the VW mk4 diesel they decided to spin it the other way and many mechanics including myself got caught out. Lasted 3 months with the spring bending the wrong way then it snapped............not good that one. One other bearing is a bit funny too. It has the arrow like the others but that isn't the way you set it there are other marks further down you line up. Beware of VW's. They can bite. Study the sprung tensioner and don't over torque the little 13mm nut!

Just buy a Spline set. Cheap as. And you don't need to crack the big center bolt unless you do the oil seals. If you dont need to do the seals, don't do them. At 200km belt do them. All shops dont do the oil seals unless they are weeping, Its just trouble. VW oil seals are quite tricky too, you need a plastic sleeve cheater, as they haven't worked out to give a leading edge yet like the Japanese always do.

@10:18 clear as day boost solenoid snapped right at the T Bridge.... so sad.

@FearlessMods

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll take your word for it. I’m not sure what I’m looking at in that screenshot…

you didn't show how to get the motor mount out!!! That's the part I'm stuck at.

@FearlessMods

7 жыл бұрын

@smokindav 8:16-10:24 points out the bolts, brackets, and lines you need to remove or move in addition to jacking the engine up and down to get it out. It took us about 4 hours, so when it finally came out I didn't have a camera running. I sequenced those 2 minutes out of order to try to help you get it done quicker (notice the bracket is actually still in following that "removal" sequence). It still isn't easy!

@smokindav

7 жыл бұрын

ctcrhenderson I figured it out. The trick to getting the motor mount out is to fully remove the lower timing belt cover. Then you can jack the engine up high enough to get the mount out.

@Wolfpack310

6 жыл бұрын

u need to raise or lower the motor a bit than u can work the bracket out

You be sanding a long time to remove any material laddie. the sand on sand paper is not hard enough to remove that steel, it will just clean it.

Get u some triple squares

Man why'd I get a German car this looks so complicated 😔

@FearlessMods

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

Why are you doing this job if you haven't got the correct tools? You don't have 16mm socket for the engine mount bolts, triple square socket for the crank pulley bolts, torx sockets for the timing cover bolts, 19mm 12 point socket for the crank sprocket bolt... Is there anything else missed? You may have succeeded in removing everything, but chances are you've rounded the heads off on all the fasteners so when putting everything back together you wont be able to torque any of the fasteners to spec.. Nice job!

@FearlessMods

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching from start to finish @wizkid01!

@wizkid01

6 жыл бұрын

ctcrhenderson resale value of car now is zero. Safety risk too, I bet you didn't replace the torque to yield bolts - I bet nothings been torqued to spec, they don't specify torque values for no reason you know.

@thatrabbitguys314

6 жыл бұрын

Well that train of thought is surely stupid. Who cares if the bolts aren't torqued to spec. Mk5s value doesn't depend solely on if the timing is done correctly or not. Theres no way of knowing any kind of work was done properly on any mk5 gti out there for sale,Dealer or some random mom and pop shop. Also Actually go and work on a car before you comment negatively like that. Even if you go to the dealer right now and get the timing done, you won't know if everything was "torqued to spec" VW gives the spec just so people out there don't hand torque it. But at the end of the day if it works it works. I bought my mk5 gti with all of its maintenance done at the dealer and I'm confident the timing was done also but guess what? Im still going to do the timing.

@wizkid01

6 жыл бұрын

ThatRabbitGuy I have only ever bought vws and audis, I do all the work on my cars hence I think I know what I am talking about. Some of those stretch bolts are for the engine mount, so they must be replaced.. So yea, who cares?!

@billunneegaming

6 жыл бұрын

ThatRabbitGuy “Who cares if the bolts aren’t torqued to spec” Pretty much says it all What a cabbage

Total time 10hrs! lol if I took more than 2 id get the sack!

Thank you for this but WHAT IN THE HOLY FUCKING HELL VW. THIS IS NOT A ONE MAN JOB YOU WILL HAVE MULTIPLE MENTAL EPISODES

The motor mount is a real son of a b*** but its alot easier to get out if you push up the engine as far as you can without cracking the gearbox mount on the other side.. then its possible bus still sucks tho lol

@420shayaa

6 жыл бұрын

MrMHead555 had a lot more luck pulling face off and removing motor and trans as a unit. Takes maybe 20 mins to do.

put the camera on a tripod please...

You don't have the right tools for the job more than likely why you guys struggled

@FearlessMods

3 жыл бұрын

You are correct sir. Part of the DIY experience. However, we made it happen and got 'er dun! No dealer involved!

@IzAndy69

3 жыл бұрын

@@FearlessMods you didn't even have the right size sockets 😂. But good on yous for being able to improvise.

put a pin in the tensioner so you have access to all bolts, no need to go underneath.