Two drivers with something in common: both got their only F1 win in Monaco

@leewat9068

3 жыл бұрын

And Trulli was Panis' last teammate in F1

@Johnny69xxx

3 жыл бұрын

Not a bad race to win 😄

@georgekountouris8059

2 жыл бұрын

They were both raced for Prost Peugeot 1999

@emankcin1701

2 жыл бұрын

Trulli replaced Panis at Prost for 3 months after the latter broke his leg at the Canadian gp 1997. Then they were teammates at Prost the next two years, and again worked together at Toyota some years later.

@rowds

10 ай бұрын

​@@hernansalto-dumbattemptracingbut what he said is still correct...Panis' last teammate in F1 (2004) was Trulli....

No DRS, Old hockenheim, V-10 sound Come back old F-1!!!

@janibba5839

6 жыл бұрын

Julian Manrique yes😥😥😥😥

@andrewjenkinson8948

6 жыл бұрын

F1 in this era sucked. Good riddance to it.

@Rosario_Verano

5 жыл бұрын

It's really funny that when someone says ''bring back old F1'' usually means F1 during the time he/she started watching.

@mrmathh3680

4 жыл бұрын

You forgot to add "no overtaking"

@Ariespradana13

4 жыл бұрын

Old Hockenheim just requires : 20% Drivers Skill 80% Engine Power

If this would happend season 2014 Panis would just wait Drs zone and then move pass Trulli. And then Jordan would tell Trulli that he have to save fuel and tyres because they are melting. Exiting? NO!. I miss this :(

@Spyker8921

7 жыл бұрын

They also had to save fuel back then...

@eddmorchids6605

6 жыл бұрын

Sure, but not to that degree they have to today.

@miro5900

4 жыл бұрын

@@ballaking1000 6

@miro5900

4 жыл бұрын

8v U

@MD-uu5nt

4 жыл бұрын

@@ballaking1000 what are you raving about? Cars in 2004 weighed 600kg and they had to use ballast to make them that heavy. This year they weigh a minimum of 750kg and that is because if the batteries. Old cars were way lighter and had just as much power, less torque though.

I miss that sound.

@TheGtrosado

9 жыл бұрын

We all miss :(

@viktorlosert79

4 жыл бұрын

Circut and sound...

@culture-nature-mobility7867

3 жыл бұрын

Me too... But I also like the punch and corner speeds of the new cars 🙃

@NeW-of4wu

3 жыл бұрын

😒

In loving memory of the REAL Hockenheim ring! Wonderful!

I really miss the old Hockenheim!

@FrittenFriseurLPs

2 жыл бұрын

Me too

@Mercedes-Benz_CLR_

3 ай бұрын

👍

The old Hockenheim circuit was unique, for sure; that's what made it great. It probably wasn't much of a challenge to drive (except for the stadium section, that must have been fun with the low downforce settings), but it often produced good races, because one could pass almost anywhere on the track. It was definitely more a spectator's track than a driver's track- and other than maybe Monza there wasn't any other track like that on the F1 calendar. I really do miss the old layout; I think if it was to be restored with better spectator facilities than it had in 2001 (particularly in the forest straights, apparently there were no restrooms for spectators out there), F1 today could race there.

@singleturbosupra7951

8 жыл бұрын

+hmdwgf Some modifications to track layout would probably be okay, as long as the ostkurve was still there. And as long as the old layout was still possible to be used for trackdays. And the forest not cut down too much. Imo the forest added to the characteristics of this track as well

@Rosario_Verano

8 жыл бұрын

but why remove the forest part? they could have added grandstands along the straights

@martinh88

5 жыл бұрын

@@Rosario_Verano They would probably be mostly empty.

@Rosario_Verano

5 жыл бұрын

@@martinh88 Yeah, access would be an issue.

@chrisr2507

Жыл бұрын

I think Canada is a similar type of track. Very high speed with chicanes so tons of passing.

This was F1... RIP Hockenheim

@werder96dav

7 жыл бұрын

In my opinion this is discrimination for the poor animals in the forrest... they loved to chill on a tree or behind the fence watching the drivers pushing to the limit and listening to the sound of V10 engines, but now they lost their first row viewing position. Im serious give the animals their raceshow back!

@Lakitu886

6 жыл бұрын

they werent allowed to race there anymore because they had to replant the trees

@mkronbauer

6 жыл бұрын

Lakitu886 Because they cutted other trees to make that generic new layout

@MrMicrolin

6 жыл бұрын

They changed the track to get more capacity.

@jigglediggle29

4 жыл бұрын

@@mkronbauer Because the stupid Greens wanted the reforestation of the old track. It was a sneaky blackmail strategy - you want money from Baden Württemberg? Eliminate the old track. Pathetic! But now the old money grubbing farts (track owners) got what they deserved - crappy Hockenheim is out! Great!

How I miss the old Hockenheim. And these two teams. Especially the yellow Jordans. Even though they were not as successful as the other teams, they were still so awesome to watch. And Minardi too.

@FrittenFriseurLPs

Жыл бұрын

I feel you so much... I visited Hockenheim a few month ago and looked at what's left of this beautiful track and the old layout. The "Gegengerade" which leads back into the "motordrome" is still there, but no signs that this was once part of the track are left. It's crazy to think that this part of the Track just vanished forever, and all what's left, is a part of the forest with less tall trees.

@ScoxzS

Жыл бұрын

Arrows also! :D

@rayonlaser2213

Жыл бұрын

They litteraly killed the essence of the circuit with the new layout and that’s why f1 is not going to return there. At least silverstone new layout managed to remain amazing

@CinematicHypeTV

Жыл бұрын

@@rayonlaser2213 F1's absence has nothing to do with the Track. Hockenheim is still a good track to produce fun racing and I don't know how much fun the old Hockenheim (even though I prefer it over the "new" one) would be with the new cars and DRS. Could be pretty boring. But I thing they should kept at least half of these high speed sectors.

Miss Jordan :/

Oliver Panis had one of the greatest wins in F1. Last ever win for Ligier. Pity he broke his leg. One of my favourite drivers.

An example of why DRS SUCKS. Both cars came at the corner/chicane at the same speed and they rely on their bracking and cornering habilities to gain or defend a posittion, now it's all about to press a damn button and pass the other car on a straight line

@r.a.6459

2 жыл бұрын

Passes today is so easy. Back then you need hard work with no magic buttons - you rely on basic physics.

great defensive driving from jarno, until he spun. i remember waching this race live.

@jamie2905_

7 жыл бұрын

remember burti and schumacher

@sultanabran1

7 жыл бұрын

I XxXCr7Jamie2016XxX l the crash at the start? if i remember correctly, burti went flying into the barriers at turn 1?

@norwegiantroll2480

3 жыл бұрын

How old Are you?

side by side at 350 kph....balls of steel

@rt1110

2 жыл бұрын

Panis of steel 😂

The glorious old hockenheim... A forest roaring with v10 screaming through it, where the driver floor their throttle 80% of their time in a lap, insane brake wear, squeezing every last bit of driver skills where the driver had to negotiate the twisty stadium section with a low downforce setup due to the very fast nature at the rest of the track.

that huge oil bottle feature always gets me !

I rembering this race very good (i was age 14). This fight between Trulli and Panis was exciting - especially when you know that the cars arrive more then 350 km/h (217 mph). I loved the old Hockenheimring, but the new is great too.

Brilliant track, brilliant cars, brilliant sounds. What on earth has F1 come to?

@jamesbraun9842

7 жыл бұрын

Morgan Hodgson A she'll of its former self.

@whoasked9500

6 жыл бұрын

At least the cars are faster.

@andrewjenkinson8948

6 жыл бұрын

F1 sucked in this era. It was boring, uncompetitive racing. If anything the level of competition is better now. You nostalgiatards really are ridiculous.

@whoasked9500

6 жыл бұрын

Yep.

@IrLosin

5 жыл бұрын

I am one of those people who thought F1 was better back then. But then I checked the overtake stats and I was amazed: cliptheapex.com/overtaking/ Just because the engine is louder doens't mean it races better.

Die gute alte 2000der Formel 1😢 das waren noch Zeiten

I would be mad if I was Trulli. Damn Panis wouldn´t give the place back and he lost his head.

Panis, highly underrated driver. Too bad he hasn't had a chance in a big team.

Isso era F1 !! Isso era som de F1 !! Isso era circuito de F1 !! Sdds da verdadeira F1 ....

My fav high speed circuit..I really miss this old Hockenheim!

I will never forgive they destroyed this circuit. Imagine this with the new fuel consumption regulations :)) Coast on a highway race :)

@TheColinChapman

6 жыл бұрын

karelpipa no. regarding fuel consumption, the old Hockenheim circuit had been similar to Monza (engines are running under full load for 73 to 75 percent of the lap time). Most teams do not use the entire fuel tank capacity of 100 litres, most teams only use 96 to 98 litres of it. The reason is that most of the time the cars are using the longest gear, which is good regarding fuel consumption. the tracks that are critical regarding fuel consumption are circuits like Montreal - a lot of full-load-accelerating out of medium-speed-corners. Modern F1 cars would not have to lift-and-coast on the old Hockenheim layout (if it still existed).

Everyone is talking about the old Hockenheim while I am amazed by the amount of cockpit camera perspective.. Love it

Amazing quality!

0:20 great sound of the Mercedes-Benz FO110K engine

IM 32 and I still got to enjoy these wonderful sunday morning. RIP good F!.

I too really loved the old Hockenheim layout.. it was very different from most tracks and presented a unique challenge. After quite a bit of reading I can't seem to find out why the track owners decided to dismantle the old layout after introducing the new one... surely that takes time and effort? Wouldn't simply blocking it off have been simpler and less expensive? Not to mention it would have left open the option of perhaps re-using it in the future. Now it's pretty much gone forever. Very sad.

@hmdwgf

10 жыл бұрын

***** That wasn't the main reason. That was a contributing factor, but the main reason was that the track was not good for spectators and it's facilities were lacking to others. There were hardly any access roads, and over at the OstKurve, there were no bathrooms for spectators, and security was often an issue- some crazy ex-Mercedes employee got onto the track during the 2000 race thanks to him nagivating his way through the forest there, which didn't have any good security measures from stopping people from getting onto the track.

@armorgeddon

9 жыл бұрын

***** Old track layout had to be abandoned because they had to compensate the big amounts of wood destroyed for the new layout. I guess it wouldn't have survived anyway, because of the tough financial situation the Hockenheim Ring got in after the new layout was built.

@armorgeddon

9 жыл бұрын

hmdwgf Eccelstone pursuaded the Hockenheim Ring management, that it would be beneficial, when the cars would drive by the spectators more often and that they should therefor shorten the track. :-(

@hmdwgf

9 жыл бұрын

--___--

@BollocksUtwat

9 жыл бұрын

armorgeddon And so master craftsman Tilke provided us with many carefully engineered track sections that are guaranteed by science to produce better racing. Germans are the most fun people, just ask them, politely.

old Hockenheim...

What a POWER!!!!!!

This is exciting and fascinating to watch without anything that defines F1 today. Just simple V10 engines and tracks that each had a unique character.

i miss that old hockenheim so much.. Unbelievable racetrack...

the sounds so astonishing

I just watched the sundays race and after I started to look for videos with old track and with monopost with some sound. It was really good race on sunday, but this sounds so much better and the old track is just great!

i miss old hockenheim and old f1

Old Hockenheim was the best and worst track to watch a Race on the grandstand. The Cars were long gone no visual cues, but hearing the roar of those V-10s and seeing them blasting back out of the Forest gave a whole different kind of tension.

Man old Hockenheim was awesome

Probably the best F1 circuit there ever was and will always miss it. The new one is a tragedy really because it isn't a particularly interesting or challenging.

@singleturbosupra7951

8 жыл бұрын

+Panopticon Probably not the best, but it's up there.

@jimb8695

7 жыл бұрын

Old Hockenheim was great for all kinds of racing. I remember watching world superbike race also on this track. Those super fast long straights always provided some cool overtaking actions. RIP Hockenheim.

@CKlasseDTM

3 жыл бұрын

I love old Hockenheim but come on, the Nurburgring, Spa, Monza... They are better tracks

I just Love watching the expansions & contractions of the front tires @ tracks like Hockenheim & Monza.

i would like to see that track back in the calendar, just to see full speed battles, it could be pretty exciting !

FANTASTIC VIDEO!!

Old Hockenheim 最高!!

amazing quality!

People bitch about the new DRS and KERS being needed, and that they make being a driver easy. The car's nowadays don't have 950hp, and the teams engines are much closer in power output than they were during the V10 era. The V10's had varying levels of power, and today's engines are for the most part all roughly the same power. In addition, all the little winglets and aero appendages that these cars have are banned, and forcing teams to regain the downforce by making the wing's angle more aggressive. Simply put, if you think it's boring watching modern F1, try to imagine it without KERS or DRS, and with nothing in their place. I'm sorry, but there's not enough passing as it is.

Der alte Hockenheimring, mir kommen die Tränen. Was habt ihr bloß mit der schönsten Rennstrecke der Welt angestellt.

Good quality. I didn't remember these engines' sound, really cool. V10??

Way too many things missing here...The old Hockenheimring, the sound of those brilliant sounding engines, events with many people.

They go full throttle for soooooo long on that first straight before that devilish chicane!

I kinda miss this version of the Hockenheim track

This was joy to watch back then

Better then watching the TRULLI TRAIN! thnx for the upload.

They killed F1 in its most and they killed this insane race track configuration.. It was mindblowing, breathtaking and incomparable configuration. I do not know what is in the heads of that old men that rule F1.

this is formula one!!

Back when drivers didn't look like they were playing a racing sim...

So little downforce through the stadium section, amazing!

that is V10 power baby!!!

der alte Ring war der Hammer! die geilste F1 high speed Strecke..selbst zwar erst 93 geboren, - aber auch dieser Kurs - unvergessen :) ..etliche Runden dort auf Playstation1+ Formula1 96/97 gedreht >:D

@Blueangel290393

5 жыл бұрын

..ach.. und weg mit dem f***ing DRS..!

Awsome , freaking!

como extraño el antiguo circuito¡¡¡¡¡

Wow.

Was this race the race before Minardi's accident? D :

Isso sim eram autódromos, carros e motores, não essas porcarias semi elétricas sem barulho de hj em dia....

that lucky strike livery was classic

the lack of rear downforce is palpable

@Katerpillar

9 жыл бұрын

speed

Germans, why you let this legendary tack killed?!

Yeah, you're right. That was a really awesome track, not like nowadays one, that's a shit. I loved this old one

this was art

Wurz onboard at Monza around this time was also really good battles!

anyone know wich button Panis press when he tries to pass Trulli ?

Чудо машины! Чудо дороги! Показатель Экономики. Вот условия для Жизни и Размножения!!

This was fuckin racing! Hell yeah!

Auf 9 und 10 lagen die und die beiden Kommentatoren sind so enthusiastisch als ginge es um die WM. Herrlich Schulz und surer

Panis was the most underrated driver ever in rapport to his value...

Da waren noch Männer gefragt....mit 350 durch den Wald von Hockenheim. Dies waren noch echte Windschatten Schlachten. Heute unvorstellbar, drum sehe ich mir den Käse seit Jahren nicht mehr an.

Que saudade dessa época..... Isso éra Fórmula 1 de verdade !!!! Que ronco fantástico tinham esses V10 !!!! Só saudades....... Muito obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal. Abraço do Brasil.........

we miss the old Hockenheimring :(

This is what F1 really look like.. There's no need for DRS. It just the engine. More fair.

waaahhh that was the race 😍

That Honda Sound .... so F**** Amazing 😍😍😍

where are those good old times with loud engines???

that was racing!!!

Was für tolle F1 Zeiten damals mit Jaques Schulz und Marc Surer als Kommentatoren damals noch

Die haben die neue Strecke ja hauptsächlich nur gebaut, um die Zuschauerkapazität zu erhöhen (haben sie ja auch geschafft). Die haben ja immer noch Schulden, weil sie so viel "unnötiges" Geld zum Fenster rausgeschmissen haben. An Tilkes Stelle bzw. an der Stelle der Streckenbetreiber hätte ich einfach eine Schneise durch den Wald gezogen (so auf Höhe Jim-Clark-Schikane), die dann einfach zur Senna-Schikane führt, die Zufahrten modernisiert und ein paar Tribünen mehr aufgestellt. Dadurch hätte man weniger Geld ausgeben müssen, die Zuschauerkapazität wäre trotzdem größer und es hätten viel weniger Bäume sterben müssen. Aber der "Moderne Mensch" ist halt unverbesserlich :/

@dyWalti

7 жыл бұрын

Das hatte man ursprünglich auch vor, man wollte den Streckenverlauf eigentlich so belassen wie er war. Aber es gab Probleme mit dem Land, wegen den Bäumen, Der Umwelt oder so, genau weiß ich es nicht mehr. Und da man eine neue Strecke bauen musste bis zum nächsten Jahr, bzw. eine modernisierte hat man direkt eine neue Gebaut.

@erebousde

7 жыл бұрын

Und wieder dieser Umwelt-Schwachsinn... es wurden wegen der neuen Strecke viel mehr Bäume gefällt und Abgase von den Baumaschinen in die Luft gejagt als wenn man die alte bearbeitet hätte...

@johanneswetzler2861

6 жыл бұрын

Das ist Deutschland halt, wieso einfach wenns kompliziert gehen kann.

People who said and currently says this era was boring just have no clue...listen to those raging v10s, look at that fierce battle. No DRS, no KERS, no quiet turbos...

Panis dachte sich sicher auch so: "Lass ich ihn gleich in der Schikane wieder vorbei oder warte ich auf eine Anweisung?" Der Mittelweg war aus seiner Sicht sicher dis beste Entscheidung ;)

Wicked!!!!

0:30 to 0:35 dat sound

And not a single DRS was used that day

To me the old Hockenheim was the F-1's best track ever.

Two very underated drivers both i love but then i always support the underdog 2nd drivers

when the f1 was.

Vibrant racing , wuah !!

Lets make F1 great again!

More than a year in fact.

Honda engine sound - goose bumps.

@MDDeGrande1994

7 жыл бұрын

VTEC kicked in, yo!

That F1 was really fun.

This old longer circuit was better than new one....

Class due RIP Hockenheim

Former Prost- team-mates battling