"The Promise" by When in Rome

@What.its.like.

2 ай бұрын

Yeah buddy you got it I love that song =)

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

@@bradyelich2745 great story. Thank you so much for sharing that.

Gotta love the iconic vertical-split grille and the Indian-head hood ornament which were Pontiac styling hallmarks for so long. Just one glance and you know it's a Pontiac. All the little details like cowl lights, sun visor, landau bars, and metal pressing details are combined perfectly here, adding "bling" which is absent from many other cars of this era. Nobody knew it at the time, but the stock market crash was going to have a longer and deeper impact than could be imagined, and the 'bling' of the 'Flapper era' was going to go away quickly. Had Sloan tried to persist with his 'companion' concept GM would likely have been a casualty of the Depression too. If we look far ahead when many car companies merged and tried something similar with multi-level branding, we can see that they all eventually failed so maybe 'companion branding' wasn't such a good idea anyhow. The car batteries and generators of the time weren't terribly robust which is why allowing for hand-starting stayed around for so long even after electric starting became common. It proved worthwhile through the Depression where motorists might not be able to afford a new battery when needed. Perhaps the last car with this feature was the Russian VAZ 2101 aka "Lada" which had a hand-crank included as standard equipment into the 1970's, and left the provision for one till it ended in 1983. WYR The Essex looks leaner, lower, and sportier for a 'roadster' style car, but the Pontiac is just so much nicer. WYR2 The same goes for the Whippet and the Plymouth, but here I like the lines of the Plymouth better as the Pontiac body is a bit taller.

GM/Chevy's answer, to the 'Ford model A'.

That was a popular color combo for the time period, an olive green and orange. I have even seen Harley Davidson Motorcycles from those years, same color combination

That was a pretty nice car! WYR= Whippet, only because my grandfather had one, long before I was born. (Side note: the Whippet was made by Willys-Overland). That washing machine is very similar to what my aunt used up until the mid 60's. It was on wheels, and you would roll it up to the sink, attach the hoses and drain and wring out the clothes when done.

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Awesome choices =)

Many Sundays spent in the rumble seat going to church in one of these, belonged to head deacon. COLD in the winter!

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

That would be a cold winter ride🥶

I love Pontiacs , my Dad had a 1958 Starchief 4 door hard top and a 1961 Ventura that's why I love them , good video..

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Awesome Pontiac made some great cars it’s a pity they aren’t around anymore I was 21 in 2010 when they pulled the plug. They were making great cars then ( except maybe the Aztec, but some people like those they like the camping them with their tents and stuff ) Speaking of Aztec reminds me of a funny story in high school I went to prom three years I went as a junior as a senior and one year when I was outside of school the junior year that I went I borrowed my grandpa‘s Lincoln town car and they were out of town it was me and my couple and two other couples. White tux wearing a captains hat driving an 88 Lincoln town car signature series ( still one of my favorite cars ever owned by the family. I really want to get one one day and do an episode on one). Anyway coming down Washington street hill in new castle I was hit by a Pontiac Aztec he came into my lane. it didn’t do any significant damage but ironically where he hit, the car is where his ex-girlfriend was sitting. And he was the prom king. And you know me parents weren’t home at the time ( they were in the craft business so they were gone weekends most of the time I was with them, got to stay home to go to prom lol ). I didn’t say anything about the accident to no one but man word traveled fast at school somehow. And it got back to my dad which didn’t even work at the school.. just the way small towns are word travels fast. When I got home my dad‘s like how was your hospital visit and I was like I would never went to the hospital. And then said I heard of the accident wanted to see the damage which there wasn’t much just a tiny spot.. when I showed him he laughed. I miss dad

@ernestoclaudodip9671

Ай бұрын

@@What.its.like. Good story with happy end. I miss my dad too when we were in the car and he sang beautifully in tune while he was driving.

Very nice. Thank you.

A nice old Pontiac, Jay. Thank you for featuring it. And Ill take the DeSoto and the Whippet.

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Sweet choices

I’ll take the Pontiac for both WYR scenarios. That grille made me think about the split grille theme started by Pontiac starting in 1959. At any rate, a nice car even despite the missing footage. I’m another one who likes the pinstripes. Nice touch!

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Great choices =)

15:21 Those pinstriped louvres ...

The manual crank hole was basically for winter. You would hand crank the engine over a couple of times before trying to start it with the starter. Much better chance of it starting that way.

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Ай бұрын

Great information

Like the T - 34 tank - no air filter ! I guess someone must have made an aftermarket air filter kit for it? Some motorcycles didn't have air filters - Snow King snowblower engines didn't have air filters because they tended to get clogged with blowing snow and it was believed that Arctic air was clean I believe that the tank also tended to clog with snow if it had an air filter on it when operated in blowing snow which I think the T - 34 supposedly excelled at

13:50 Those are hand painted pinstripes and the cover the hood? Unusual.

@What.its.like.

2 ай бұрын

They took pride in their product back then

Hi Jay! Man! You are really killin' it with all these cooooool 1920's cars!! LOVE THEM! The Pontiac is pretty darn cool, with the split radiator shell reminiscent of the Oakland parent make. The AWESOME emblems for Pontiac of that time that look like emblems from a Native-American blanket! And on the hub caps too! Convertible Coupes are really nice (Ford called the Model A version a Cabriolet) because you actually get REAL side windows you can roll up and down. The interior of the Pontiac is quite nice and plush, too! I'm glad I'm not in your area, I might be in trouble financially if I could get to that cool Pontiac! The split head engine design is kind of clever! A lot of the older flathead engines suffered from blown head gaskets. This split head design meant you would get better torque distribution over each head and also you would have smaller head gaskets, that if one blew, you would only have to replace the one that was bad. Also it allowed the distributor to be right in the middle, but not where you would have to have a gasket to seal it from cooling passages, VERY NEAT! The horsepower rating is not too bad either, having 20 more horsepower than a Model A Ford. I just want to skip the WYR's on this one because I LOVE THEM ALL! The Pontiac, though, would have a slight advantage, being it has the roll up windows, where the other ones don't.

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

To be fair someone needs to cover these 20s cars might as well be me lol I’m happy you guys are digging these so many details to be discovered thank you so much for sharing all that insight and information

Appreciate your work Jay thanks

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2 ай бұрын

Thank you it means a lot this is all I’ve ever wanted to do so happy to finally have the opportunity to do it 1935 auburn speedster Monday

I owned and restored a 1930 Desoto CK Coupe. The Desoto would be my choice for the for the first set of choices and the Plymouth would be my choice for the second group. IMO Chrysler Corp built cars were a bit ahead of the curve engineering wise compared to similarly priced cars if their era in the late 20’s through early 40’s. Both the Plymouth and Desoto would have modern four wheel hydraulic brakes while he others were although 4 wheel, they were mechanically operate by rods or cables. The Plymouth and Desoto Lhead engines had full pressure pump driven engine lubrication and were basically the same reliable Lhead design that Chrysler would build up into the early sixties in ag/ industrial versions.

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Totally agree Thank you so much for sharing all that insight and information Chrysler is nowhere near the company they used to be it’s actually very sad when you know Chrysler history of what an epic company they were to the shit show they’ve become. Great choices

I like em all. RIP Pontiac.

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Sweet choices =)

Cool old car love the split grill Pontiac - Plymouth

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Awesome choices =) I love the grill on this actually, I love this whole car everything about it is quaint

Nice car ! I would rock that !

10:52 those pressed creases are there to provide rigidness to the panel and happens all over the sheet metal of many cars over the years. So, I disagree that they could have made those panels flat.

@What.its.like.

2 ай бұрын

If they were made today, they probably would be and they would be plastic.. It was more or less a comment about how minimalistic things are today, but they charge you more for it

Este fue respetado sus colores como eran entonces, saludos 👍

I'd kick start it too - but I soubt most people today have any idea how to pop the clutch. WYR: not entirely fair since the Pontiac was a convertible coupe and the others are roadsters, but - 1) Pontiac, 2) Pontiac

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Totally agree the Essex was a boat tail.. great choices. Yeah, it is really sad not a lot of people my age or younger know how to kickstart a car, one of the best advantages of having a manual transmission

I'm guessing they kept the hand crank starters in cars for a while because batteries were garbage in those days. I did a lot of jump starting in my day but my batteries often seemed to die at the bottom of hills. This is a cool car that I wouldn't mind owning but you've put other cool cars in the WYR and I'd choose the 1929 Essex Challenger and the 1929 Willys Whippet.

@What.its.like.

2 ай бұрын

Great choices I think they kept the hand crank around as backup a fail safe… and like you said battery technology wasn’t that great

I prefer the DeSoto and the Plymouth

Thats what a car ought'ta look like

@What.its.like.

2 ай бұрын

This car was awesome I love the mascot and all of the detail in the grill/front portion.

WYR: Pontiac (seduced by the sidemounts), Whippet (a little different. See my comment about the Metropolitan below.

I have the cowl from a 28-29 Oakland for garage art.

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Sweet =)

I bet that would be a blast to drive

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

I know right

Seems like the Pontiac was a real bargain back then . Question..... didn’t they use a mag vs the distributor shown ?

Odd thing, Pontiac "could' have survived the recession if GM chose to let it live. Chevy being the everyday car, Buick the baby Caddy... had the focused on what Pontiac was noted for, the "sport" division, the could have made a go of it. If you look at GM's line up now, each division offers the same exact thing. Heavy on SUV's. Pontiac could have filled a niche for folks who don't want a rebadged TrailBlazer. Dump the Camaro, keep (reintroduce) Firebird. Malibu becomes rental car fodder, Pontiac upcales it into Bonneville with beefed up drivetrain and optional AWD. CT4 is redesigned into a 2 door coupe only, GTO. Not an SUV to be found. Would sales be astronomical? No, probably not, but GM would offer more options than the vast array of SUV's, with little else available. Sorry, got off on a tangent. I'm not a huge fan of cars from this era, but this little cutie is adorable! I could picture me tooling around the Adirondacks on a nice summer day with this, one pup by my side, the other two in the rumble seat! My big butt would even be comfortable in it! And talk about ease of maintenance! Awesome little car!!! WYR: 1) DeSoto and Pontiac, hmmm... Pontiac by a bunny hair. 2) Pontiac!

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Great choices I totally agree. Pontiac could have survived Chevy just let it die… there were hawks of bringing back the Firebird, but they never did, or I should say they made kits for the Camaro

Essex and Plymouth. Toodaloo!!!

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Sweet choices =)

👍🏻

GM has a LONG history of wasting money.experts in competing amongst themselves.the sad part is they've learned nothing from their past mistakes.sometimes i think a learning disability is a job requirement for upper management.

Pontiac 6-29, '29 Plymouth.

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Sweet choices

WYR: All of them.

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Sweet

Pontiac for both. What is the blue sedan park next to it?

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Sweet choices I went back and looked. I’m not 100% sure what that car is. I’m planning on going there maybe next week if it’s still there I will let you know what it is.

Wyr the Essex and the Whippet

@What.its.like.

2 ай бұрын

Sweet choices. The Essex was a boat tail.

1900 dude just how you going to put it on top of that hill????If you was 30miles BFE you would be dam glad to have that crank....

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

I live in a hilly area where there are hills everywhere in Texas you’d need someone to push you

@kcstafford2784

Ай бұрын

@@What.its.like. and whom would do this push ...you'd want that crank...

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Very true

I also found out Cadillac was bought from Henry Ford. Is there not a car or engine not involved with Ford design?

@What.its.like.

2 ай бұрын

The original Henry Ford company was taken over by Cadillac.. and a guy named Henry Leland. It’s a long story, but long story short, Henry leland would sell Cadillac to General Motors and then he would stay with General Motors under William Durant when World War I happened Henry Leland wanted to build the liberty V12 engine under contract because it was free money from the government essentially to build stuff. Billy Durant didn’t want to do that. Leland left General Motors to start. A new company called Lincoln. Lincoln built the liberty engines under contract, and then he would get into the luxury car market with Lincoln, but Lincoln wasn’t profitable and Henry Ford would end up buying Lincoln from Henry Leland. The guy that took his first company away from him.

@bradyelich2745

2 ай бұрын

@@What.its.like. Cool tldr. Still a Ford design. Most other 'manufacturers' bought existing tooling and were just businessmen. Henry was a bad businessman, but a great engineer. Ford (the company or the man) designed the SBC, the Cadillac, and the proper airport, the first with paved runways in 1929, Ford invented the wheel brakes for airplanes. Oh, and Ford trucks, with GM trucks helped Germany in WW2. Ford sued US government for 3 million for bombing his factories in Berlin and won. I am here all week for the SBC convo people.

@kennethanway7979

2 ай бұрын

Please... tell me more!​@@bradyelich2745

@stanwbaker

Ай бұрын

Guys. Old dude here. The Henry Ford Company got rid of crude Henry. He had this insane idea about mass-producing popularly priced cars. He wouldn't shut up about it. Ford, the person, immediately formed a shell called Ford Motor Company and formed an alliance with machinists Horace and Elgin Dodge. Leland was brought in to helm the old company which was renamed after the founder of Detroit. After Cadilac was stable, largely due to the innovation of standardized parts just like H. Ford wanted, Leland was shown the door. This business about standardized parts in mass production was called the "standard of the world". Leland went on to start another premium car company with other investors who all had failed car companies named after themselves; red flags anyone? This endeavor was named Lincoln after the POTUS. It was like pulling teeth to get Henry to agree to keep the Lincoln in production and improving, using Ford methods, the design after Ford bought the entire company allegedly just for the factory space. The Dodge brothers went on to make their own entire car with H. Ford, and some other names you might know, as investors. In the first quarter of the 20th C. the Dodge Brothers car was the finest car that could be acquired without regard to price. After the brothers died in quick succession, the company was bought by some random guy who used to run a machine shop for locomotives and had been brought in to reform Maxwell. Exactly how Chrysler Corp. missed the trick of hiring the world's most famous Maxwell owner into doing some kind of promotion for them in the post-war years remains a mystery.

29 Essex 29 Plymouth

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Sweet choices

Toodle Loo twist ... spoiler

@What.its.like.

2 ай бұрын

Hahaha she’s been wanting to do it for a while =)

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

I really want to buy a metropolitan this year if I get the opportunity to do that I’m going to let her be in the episode.. I think she would really love that car because it’s small and she’s small lol

@bradyelich2745

Ай бұрын

@@What.its.like. Cool. I hope u get it done. But, I think she is into Harleys.

@bradyelich2745

Ай бұрын

@@What.its.like. Boys drive u made growing up, girls drive u mad when u think u know what is going on and u find out ur stupid ... WW2 wargaming, they let highschool girls game agianst the admirals and the girls won. those same girls deduced the germans had sounding torps. Lyndybiege has a vid on them.

@bradyelich2745

Ай бұрын

@@What.its.like. Be very careful around her, I am whispering so she doesn't hear my warning to you. Just buy her a Harley and she will let some of her power over you disperse.