amazing how much more mellow and less dramatic the Dragon's Den is than Shark Tank...no over the top acting cringy presentations, dramatic music only at key moments...quite refreshing change from watching Shark Tank.

@ExtraordinaryFate

Жыл бұрын

Shark Tank has much more enjoyable investors though. They add life to the show.

@billymabum3514

Жыл бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryFate it’s scripted

@bounmiibeagle7550

Жыл бұрын

I watched Cuban in action today in SS, shouting everyone down. It was a painful soap opera.

@chatcool74

Жыл бұрын

@@billymabum3514 Not quite ! but some parts are cut yes, to fit the show.

@12345ngb

Жыл бұрын

DD is much better than SS any day. SS Australia is the only one that I liked so far

Probably the best panel on the group at any one time. All class.

@Hiya_Pal

Жыл бұрын

Replace Debs with James Caan 👍🏽

@gdog7391

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that’s Deborah is one of the OG’s. Also, my comment was more reflective of an actual group that has actually existed at once.

@noonegirl

Жыл бұрын

What does OG mean?

@_u4ia_

Жыл бұрын

@@noonegirl Original

Honestly cruel of the other dragons to back out before Theo made an offer. Gave him all the leverage to ask for a bigger percentage

@nf6386

Жыл бұрын

A bit of a D move by Theo to signal enthusiastic interest and then pause without making an offer.

@barobaro1

Жыл бұрын

You expected millionaires to be decent and considerate human beings???. . . I'm sorry but that's your own fault cuz they'll always disappoint you in that aspect.

@scienceevolves4417

Жыл бұрын

@@nf6386 it's called "experience in business negotiations"

@hotsizler305

3 ай бұрын

​@@barobaro1 Spoken like a bitter commie

That’s a perfect pitch. Short, right to the point without bells and whistles. What a smart young man. So many entrepreneurs are over sold their product. Performing such theatrical pitch and some won’t stop talking. Often, I find that when people keep talking is because they afraid of being challenged by the other party.

@TheEsotericProgrammer

2 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot! I really needed that today: I am smart, and I know that now.

Impressive and humble young man. Wish him so much success in his venture and life overall!

Should have jumped to 25% with a view to settling at 30%. 35% was too much too quickly.

Just read an article about Christian Lane, he's done pretty well. Nice to find success stories

@jessebella9322

Жыл бұрын

@@zlatkostevanovic5891 Ok if you are going to secondee me, I ill Crocodile Dundee you, how about that

@marchumphreys3865

Жыл бұрын

@@jessebella9322 why not ?

@jessebella9322

Жыл бұрын

@@marchumphreys3865 Why not what not

@jessebella9322

Жыл бұрын

@@marchumphreys3865 Thats true

@marchumphreys3865

Жыл бұрын

@@jessebella9322 well before you deleted your first comment you asked why ? , so yeah I replied and said why not ? Lol Have a great day.

I love how they helped him. And I noticed how theo tested him by asking him about percentage

No show makes me happier than Dragons Den. Seriously.

@AliKhan-yx1dy

Жыл бұрын

Judge Judy 🤔

@ExtraordinaryFate

Жыл бұрын

@@AliKhan-yx1dy It’s called opinions my guy.

@tommydenato8863

Жыл бұрын

@@AliKhan-yx1dy Close 2nd haha

First time seeing any dragon refusing to share with Peter Jones and that too so blatantly.

@jumble-1238

Жыл бұрын

Had a feeling Theo wouldn’t budge. I think the comments all the others gave about his experience caused his arrogance to rise even higher than usual.

@bluerock9238

Жыл бұрын

They were investing in the person more than his product......

@drnureini7538

Жыл бұрын

@@jumble-1238 i actually think if peter went direct on sharing the money with Theo, then Theo would have accepted it. But the fact that he tried to negotiate and give 5% back on top of that for no clear reason when the pitcher is happy with the percentage was the reason Theo rejected it. It's like saying young man Theo is stealing you so me and him will join and we will give you 5% back lol. That's why you can also see Theo took his time to explain why he prefers to be alone and you can hint the reasons are related to the fact that peter acting like negotiating a good deal for the pitcher. I don't usually see Peter going wrong in negotiations but this one he went wrong , he should have either offered a competitive offer or just shared the percentage without the unnecessary blabla

@AbhishekSanyalTGV

2 ай бұрын

Peter back then was probably not the richest and most influential.

excellent pitch, cool calm and collective, especially from a 19 year old.he will succeed

@SECRETORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR

Жыл бұрын

This was from10-12 years ago

Super smart, no b/s, loved how he said 35pct, see how Theo smiled and appreciated it. They will have a great working relationship. This was made a while ago and so I hope Christian is doing well under Theo’s mentorship.

@TheEsotericProgrammer

2 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for the compliment!

2:41 that is the sign of respect and appreciation

Duncan declaring himself out is NOT a bombshell!!!

@butchcoolidge2445

Жыл бұрын

I'd agree with that. I do however think the bombshell was moreso him saying he didn't think it was a good product.

@Junaid-vw6zg

Жыл бұрын

@@butchcoolidge2445 he also said he could be wrong straight after

@butchcoolidge2445

Жыл бұрын

@@Junaid-vw6zg That's to save face in case it's a hit. They've been wrong before and missed out on big opportunities.

I truly think valuing the business at 230k and investing 80k for 35% is quite fair for both parties…Theo is lucky to have such a savvy , up and coming business magnate- And the young guy is extremely lucky to have Theo onboard.. Awesome 😎

@alexcalhoun1382

Жыл бұрын

Bro this is 17 years old lol

@coldestbeer

Жыл бұрын

This was 20 years ago & i still see students from architecture carrying those black mega folders over this.

@Romans8-9

Жыл бұрын

@@coldestbeer His company dissolved because of cloud storage and tablets. He started a company that focuses on smart kitchen products which is apparently doing quite well.

He was the best pitch going Theo didn’t even say anything bad and he usually does this the whole time

Boy was so clever... He knew exactly what he was looking for

Good for him, he’s going places

Fantastic young man, he will go far in life well done young man.

@itscatiooo

Жыл бұрын

keep in mind that this episode is from 10+ years ago

@Joe-Mama25

Жыл бұрын

Well I’m pretty sure his company is dissolved now so I wonder how he’s doing.

@Romans8-9

Жыл бұрын

@@Joe-Mama25 He has another company.

Truly inspiring!

Well done, laddie, a great performance!!

Patent: How to fold a paper.

A VERY bright young man. He and Theo are fortunate to have met each other.

Absolutely fantastic

Goodness gracious! What a fantastic turn of events! 🤩💖🤩

I know nothing about carrying these things but what struck me was that it could possibly do with a tube of foam along the fold to prevent accidental creasing.

@getin3949

Жыл бұрын

It's probably made of something fairly stiff but since we didn't really get to see it or test it, I agree with you.

Obviously this teenager has had guidance by an elder. Take nothing away from the guy. Amazing achievements at such a young age.

@forhimbyher2689

Жыл бұрын

Yes but also not always. I have a similar story. Started from nothing , no parents

@Dadaadad268

2 ай бұрын

@@forhimbyher2689😅

Peter should have gone for 25%. I thought that was fair.

@dtz1000

Жыл бұрын

Undercutting another dragon would be too damaging to his ego.

@stonecold6521

Жыл бұрын

@@dtz1000 I get that. That's why they very rarely undercut. It's just Theo is an expert in this area. I think 25% is fairly reasonable considering the intitial offer.

@davidhuckett5615

Жыл бұрын

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My lord, what a bright, incredible young man!

Apparently this guy is now CEO of smart home appliance company Smarter

Peters face was a picture at the end lol!

Peter was right to put that out there.

What a star!

Impressive, to say the least. The adults going into the Dragons Den should be taking notes about the way this 19-year-old conducted himself with his mannerism and pitch to the Dragons, and learn how you can make a deal.

I think because Theo was a hero of his it affected his negotiating skills. He jumped straight to 35% not really giving himself an out. If Theo had refused and not counter offered he still could have accepted. However glad to hear he is successful and yes Theo was the man for the job to fast track this. I still get the impression with this young man he would have made it anyway, it would have just taken longer.

He’s now the CEO of a company called Smarter that produces smart kitchen gadgets.

Wonder if it was re branded or if folio is a different brand.

15% to 35% clever boy but that was a silly move.... could have easily kept hold of 10% there!

@cuilcaghboardwalk5585

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Theo couldn’t believe his luck. His whole lifetime ideas for 35%.! Also he had invested 18mnths and £10,000 in the business. Theo got a bargain

Brilliant, Christian and Theo can be a perfect combination. Greetings from Danmark 🤜 🇩🇰 🤛

Why can I go through hours of watching these🤣

It’s so funny to me to go from Dragons Den to Shark Tank. ST just *oozes* America😂😂

Bottom line, Christian should have went to 25% and it would have been countered at 30%, he gave up 5% more than he needed to. Peter was simply trying to "correct" Christians mistake of offering 35%. Totally understandable on Christians part though being 19.

He is very impressive

Fair play Peter

Great

... sooo he reinvented the folder... gratz. flat, bent, folded, creased, i use them synonymously xD.

Why wouldn’t people use the cylindrical tubes over these folders? Yes there isn’t a sharp, folded crease but when he demonstrates the folder you can see a slight bend/crease in the paper in the middle which doesn’t happen with the cylindrical tubes and the paper can be then rolled up the opposite way to undo any curling? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Duncan drops a bombshell…lol

He only had eyes for Theo. & good on Theo for sticking to his guns @ 35%.

“…with _their_ pitch?” With _his_ pitch!

@jedross2136

3 ай бұрын

I thought I was getting a bout of tinnitus but thankfully it was just the sound of all the bees in your bonnet.

The dirty look Theo gave Peter That blew me away😂

Impressive, he would be around my age now I think.

@sebastiangranlund1357

Жыл бұрын

It depends if you were the same age this year he pitched ;)

@00Kuja00

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastiangranlund1357 I was 20 when it aired.

Just looking at the fella tells you he's a winner ,and will succeed .

@gerardford9706

Жыл бұрын

Listen up MickTheDick, in this life you're either a smart fella or a fart smella

I never really watched it back then. It seems more more business like more scary like a dragons den should be

you have to be born tall, jbw, iq to have the early bird start and major competitive edge all down to luck

When u don't have enough dips for your domino's....

But Theo owns him now. All his future inventions are now with theo and his kids.

@sambou6286

Жыл бұрын

to secure the inheritance ........😁😁

@Romans8-9

Жыл бұрын

No they aren´t. His first company dissolved.

Please put these old/new series on Britbox !

Love this show everyday more. First comment 🥇 yeah! 👏

The dragons probably discussed this pitch beforehand that Theo maybe best dragon to get his stationary invention off of the ground.

Big future for that young lad... Not sure about the folder ..

RIP Staples. Atleast the branch where i am. I think the company is still going strong. Also, since when do Dragons care about experience in the field?! Isn't this all about money...?

@Paaraadox

Жыл бұрын

The experience part is basically this: Theo has immense competence in this field, meaning essentially any competitive offer some other Dragon could put forward wouldn't be worth it for them, because Theo would still be a preferred investor, even at let's say double the price. Now, if Theo chooses *not* to invest, that essentially means he doesn't see potential in the product, in a field where has lots of knowledge. So some other Dragon thinking "hey, this is a good product" now sees the most knowledgable person in the room not wanting anything to do with it. So why would someone who has *less* knowledge think to know better than him?

@tgchikukwa6947

Жыл бұрын

Theo owns stationery chain Ryman and Robert Dyas.

Well there was not really any 'export". Just import. Buying from China cheap and sell for more domestic.

@theautomotivecompany1142

Жыл бұрын

Well done!

@jiwachhetri4165

Жыл бұрын

Export his money to import goods

Theo has finally found his long lost son

I think that the Dragons have a secret code to tell each other what their intentions are. A sign for 'this is mine' or 'I'll go halves with you.' What do you think?

Peter almost torpedoed it

Company status Dissolved

Incorporated on 3 November 2006 / dissolved 8 September 2015

Impressive young lad. How is he doing now?

@zaidahmed9527

Жыл бұрын

@Lee Claxton CEO of Smarter, smart kitchen appliances company generating £mm revenues

@barsnack7999

Жыл бұрын

Selling 50$ wifi kettles for 129 pound

@zaidahmed9527

Жыл бұрын

@@barsnack7999 lol yes wouldn't say its a company I'd use 😂

@patricktate4782

Жыл бұрын

Batty boy

RIP Chris Kaba

Peter, ouch.

if you noticed he really wanted Theo by handling over sample first

His*

Duncan pure jealosy 😂😂😂

Jenny: Scissors beats paper. I'm out.

@anchorsound2

Жыл бұрын

hahaha! 😂 Classic Jenny!

@RockyDave

Жыл бұрын

Blunt.

I feel like this one was more an investment in Christian himself more than the product

Say what you want Dragon's Den is always better to me than Shark Tank.. love the dark.. serious tone of this than its sister shows.

Thank god for peter for jumping in, and making greedy Theo squirm in his chair

The title says their, it should be his

He could've offered 30%, not 35%.

And this, people, is how Theo the Phoetus became a millionaire. 😂

That must have hurt Peter's ego lol

Why does it look like 200 pixels of resolution

@stuartcommon4651

Жыл бұрын

Because you're watching on a Nokia 3310

@seanjosephhayes

Жыл бұрын

Because it was broadcast around 16 years ago apparently. Before the time of such good picture quality we have these days. Probably before the time of even 720p or 1080p.

Just roll it and put it in a tube

Back to the analog era, now all you need is usb flash drive.

Unintentional ASMR

His pitch

" but Duncan bannatyne" that phrase is always followed usually by some downfall lol

his pitch

Our man be dropshopping but calling it import/Export from mainland china

@Dadaadad268

2 ай бұрын

Before 'drop shipping'

Oh my word those folders are huge, what a struggle that must not have been 🙄

This is just a binder.

Uploader, the word you're looking for is 'his'.

He is young and to offer him all future creations/inventions was not a good idea.

What i really like about dragons den is when dragons know theres another dragon better suited they say that and declare themselves out rather than tryin to be greedy themselves they know whats best for the new entrepreneurs

I have this in China

Christian was in a bind until Theo stepped up to the crease with some folding stuff 🍻

@BenjaminGoose

Жыл бұрын

I don't think he was in a bind

Theo ripped him off blindly

Reggae reggae folder

well groomed and well learnt pitch with a half decent product = investment youth = brownie points BUT: Why mot just put your UNFOLDED sheet of paper in a carry all that is SQUARE but won't squash. Duncan is correct again. ANY right minded designer won't see why he should buy it. HOW DID THEY DO IT UNTIL NOW ? Roll it up and put it in a solide tube. DUH.

@greatbalance

Жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts! It's just the novelty of a new product that will appeal to the unthinking masses suffering from "chronic consumeristic boredom".

@team3383

Жыл бұрын

@@greatbalance And a bunch of wealthy guys with overly developed ego's who have the wherewithal to PUSH a product upon the unthinking masses.