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“I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”

It's such a shame they left out the gift giving, and how in Hobbit culture the person whose birthday it is gives gifts instead of receiving them. The whole point of the large party was so Bilbo could give away a lot of gifts, and hopefully this would make giving the ring to Frodo easier. Bilbo mentions it didn't help at all.

@JulieShock

28 күн бұрын

I understand your point and have done hobbit birthdays as one of my live languages is giving gifts. I can understand how that wasn’t part of the driving plot to get the ring out of the shire

A big change hardly anyone ever talks about - in the books, Sam and Rosie have been friends since childhood and are actually dating by the time Sam has to leave the Shire. Then later when he returns, Rosie reveals she somehow had a feeling, back in the spring (when the Ring was destroyed), that he was alive and would be coming back. All of this is so much deeper and more romantic than the shallow “hesitating to dance together” and “looks from across the bar” in the movies. You get the sense they’ve never even talked to each other and yet Sam wants to marry her? It’s almost creepy. But in the book, they know each other very well, and you get the sense that Rosie has always seen Sam’s greatness and loved him for it; he never needed to prove anything to her. When she hears of all the valiant things he did, it only confirms what she already knew was in him. Rosie is safety and comfort for Sam, someone familiar who feels like home to him. All that is totally lost in the movies, where she feels like yet another “scary and unknown” thing that Sam has to face by finally going up to her - which is ridiculous.

@factorfantasyweekly

Ай бұрын

Great point!

@stellviahohenheim

Ай бұрын

Lol you try to slot in all of that story into the movie and try to not make it look stupid. Between Bilbo's party and frodo leaving there's a romcom happening in the middle

@moon8568

22 күн бұрын

Wow! Thank you for sharing!

@12classics39

22 күн бұрын

@@stellviahohenheim it wouldn’t have been that hard considering Rosie doesn’t appear in the books until after the hobbits return. So nothing would need to be slotted between the party and Frodo leaving.

Another small change I didn't really like in the movie was that after Bilbo got home from the party Gandalf is there waiting for him, implying that Gandalf can somehow teleport. In the book, it says he came in through the door soon after. Oh and Frodo was also in on the joke of Bilbo disappearing so he shouldn't have looked shocked when Bilbo disappeared. Anyways, I'm liking what I'm seeing so far so you got yourself a nerd subscriber. 🤓

@factorfantasyweekly

Ай бұрын

Great points! Happy to have you on board 🫡

@Quirderph

Ай бұрын

I like the ”teleportation” scene on it’s own, but it would have worked better in another movie. (It also raises the question of why he never does that again.)

@factorfantasyweekly

Ай бұрын

Very true 🤔

@stellviahohenheim

Ай бұрын

It's not teleportation, Gandalf simply called the eagles to give him a ride from the party to bilbos house

I think it's funny that neither the Jackson movies nor the bakshi movie has the Flash to disguise bilbos disappearance

Very nice. Also, I agree that the extended edition is the only acceptable version to watch.

@michelleedwards1486

20 күн бұрын

Same here

The old film effect you use in the video and the next one is very uncomfortable to watch Apart from that, love the videos! Keep it up

Nice video, but the waviness of the movie scenes is sickening.

I think in the books Bilbo gave the Sackville Baggins some silverware

Fatty Bolger makes an appearance as well. He is mentioned by name when Bilbo greets him at the party. He becomes more important later in the books as you undoubtedly know, but people usually complain that he was left out of the films. Jackson was kind enough to give him a cameo.

Love this, watch the trilogy Every year but never read the books so Im learning so so much from this series, commenting and liking every video to help out and hopefully going all the way through all movies/ books

This is very well done!

The party doesn't take place under the pavillion; the feast for special guests does.

This is going to be an amazing ing video essay series, thank you for all of your hard work on this! The wavy screen is difficult to watch, however, and Tolkien is pronounced Toll-Keen as Tolkien himself has pointed out (not Toll-kin)

I don't remember half of the book details you point out and Ive read the books and listened to them a few times. But it's cool to nerd out as you say.

@factorfantasyweekly

Ай бұрын

Don’t worry, for these videos I have to dive back in and remind myself of a lot of these small details! It’s fun to look into them again and remember the amount of detail Tolkien put into his work.

I think this is the part were the movie writers took the most care. They retold the story to fit on the screen. The changes work as they are conistent within the movie-universe of LotR.

This might be mentioned in a future episode but Fatty Bolger at Bilbo's party, shaking hands with him. He's a lot older compared to the book in which he's around Frodo and Sam's age. He's played by Tom Walsh, the uncle of writer and producer Fran Walsh (who is also Peter Jackson's wife). During Gandalf's visit at Bilbo's, when the wizard says that Frodo suspects something, Bilbo replies "Of course he does! He's a Baggins, not some blockheaded Bricegirdle from Hardbottle." which refers to Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, who was the one knocking on the door and calls out for Bilbo. The reference about her being a Bricegirdle from Hardbottle is in The Return of the King novel where it mentions in the aftermath of The Scouring of The Shire after Sam restores the land by planting the mallorn seed and puts on speck of Galadriel's powder which makes all the trees grow very quickly, restoring The Shire to its formal glory (if not improved). The thing with Lobelia knocking on the door and Bilbo saying that the Sackvill-Baggins wants Bag End refers to the whole conflict between Bilbo and Frodo against Otho and Lobelia-Sackville Baggins who wanted to have Bag End but didn't get it due to Bilbo making Frodo his heir.

Nice videos. Ian Holm who played Bilbo was 68 years old during filming

they balanced the Shire scenes well in the movie.

@factorfantasyweekly

Ай бұрын

Agreed!

Just finish the books while at work listen to the audio but dam the books were good and remembering the movie so much was change and left out that could of been way better done I love the movie for sure but man there could be so much more

Been a while since I’ve read the books , but since I still watch the movies (extended of course!) at least once a year, I love to learn in detail what they changed and what was accurate. Keep up the great work! 😊

@factorfantasyweekly

Ай бұрын

Thank you! I need the encouragement for a series like this. Quite the adventure!

@jassijoanna3466

Ай бұрын

@@factorfantasyweekly well you got a new subscriber that’s looking forward to it :)

Be amazing if they made all the movies exactly like the books even if they had to make way more movies, lol. I'd def watch every one!

Age differences of the Hobbits are sacrilege. Bilbo should have appeared younger, the others as they should have been, to the point of them being ten or eleven.

@factorfantasyweekly

Ай бұрын

You think it genuinely would’ve made the films better if the four hobbits were 10 year olds? Or you think they should have incorporated the 17 year gap and shown them young at first and then older once Gandalf returns?

@stellviahohenheim

Ай бұрын

@@factorfantasyweekly That's how you get a Disney version of Lord of The Ring

good video and the lord of the rings extended edition is good version and different colors to and sam always stay by his best friend either way and merry and pippin need to need to stay with frodo he is their oldest cousin and they rely on him for protection or safty

@factorfantasyweekly

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed. 🙏🏼

@jaythor70

Ай бұрын

Punctuation. It's your friend, don't be afraid to use it.

@factorfantasyweekly

Ай бұрын

💀

😍😍✅✅ Peter Jackson & Weta

There is nowhere in the books that addresses the age of either Merrie or Pippin.

Loving this series, but please remove that horrible effect you have added to the film. It awful and distracting, almost sickening.

@factorfantasyweekly

Ай бұрын

Im not going to remove it entirely, but based on other’s comments and yours, I removed the waviness of it. Which seems to be the main issue. All future videos won’t be wavy. 😂 Thanks for watching!

Pippin being 11 makes me understand why he was so annoying, yet tolerated. Still hate him tho lol. Also.. Frodo should be imprisoned. Him and Gandalf are child war criminals.

@factorfantasyweekly

17 күн бұрын

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This video made me nauseous. Please remove the seasick filter.

I hate the films, with a passion. They are 1D awful representations of a wonderful story, with empty characters and mostly terrible actors.

@jenniedarling3710

Ай бұрын

Thank you I thought I was the only one who felt the films really misrepresented the books.

@stellviahohenheim

Ай бұрын

Yeah dude the movies are really trash, all the oscars it won was from Peter Jackson lobbying the juries. Most of the people who keeps rewatching the movies every year are tasteless and illiterate people