I used to work at Sears selling Craftsman tools. Part of my job was to rebuild those “50-year-old” ratchets, along with many of the following generation, so we could give a customer back a ratchet identical to the one they broke, rather than always having to give them a brand new one off the shelf. We still offered the brand new one as an option (free/under warranty), but 95% of our customers just wanted the same tool they had before to work again. For our most sentimental clientele, I would take the very ratchet they brought in and give it all new parts (gear/pawl/spring/bearing/lever) and fresh lube while they waited, so they could keep turning nuts and bolts with the same tool that they had trusted to use on countless jobs before.

@draginator6

2 жыл бұрын

That's cool, it's a shame the company never adapted.

@TimTheInspector

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been on the other side of that counter having brought in a sixty year old ratchet and walking out with a brand new rebuild kit to install myself back at the shop. It was a neat service.

@agrimmenace1309

2 жыл бұрын

it aint much, but its honest work.

@nicogarbella

2 жыл бұрын

I have a ratchet that doesn’t work that I bought at Sears when I was 18. How would I go about replacing the tool?

@benthego-fastkid72

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicogarbella I would call before going, but Lowes and/or Ace Hardware are two of the new craftsman dealers. They should be able to do a swap for you.

I think toughness and durability should have been measured by how many times it can be used as a hammer and how many times you can hammer on the handle to loosen a bolt.

@klwarhouse

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, yup

@hankholschuh7987

2 жыл бұрын

@X-O Kimberly nobody want a cold body

@smellysam

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes thrown at a very annoying fly at the other end of the workshop container.

@TheSkubna

2 жыл бұрын

Hammer on handle to check, never use them as hammer unless they already don't work!!!

@waylonmorristexas4851

2 жыл бұрын

🤣for sure

The main issue is the move away from user repairability. Newer tools, like everything else these days, are often designed to prevent users from fixing them If that new craftsman needs to be lubricated you need to stop what you’re doing and get it serviced or replaced; which means potentially losing the tool while it’s repaired or replaced. The older sockets could be fixed and maintained right there in the shop

@justinbriggs7560

11 ай бұрын

A lot of the new ratchets aren't even repairable or even greaseable which is stupid.

@trendkilla254

8 ай бұрын

How often does a ratchet need to be re-greased?

@warmwaffles

7 ай бұрын

​@@trendkilla254it depends on how the work environment realy. The sealed versions that can't be serviced won't ever need to be greased, but if you strip a tooth, you are shit out of luck and need to get a new one or warranty it. Honestly it's just preference. I keep all ratchets I buy and just grab the right size one for the job I'm doing

@Drago0900

20 күн бұрын

@@trendkilla254 I have been oiling mine with mineral oil/ motor oil. Works great. Not as good as grease im sure but it does make them work better in my application. I have the 50 year old craftsman and I cant bother with that snap ring.

The one problem and criteria that you did not take into account. The wear that the 50 and 100 year old tools have already endured.. If the new tool had undergone that much use, would it still have won?

@christopherfigueroa3104

Жыл бұрын

I think this is fine as its realistic. You wont be finding unused 100 yr old tools so this is a practical test.

@WilliamHearnTOEFL_Tutor

Жыл бұрын

From experience, that new Crapsman set won't endure as much use as the old ones. Not even close.

@scottb4029

Жыл бұрын

@@WilliamHearnTOEFL_Tutor that was kinda what I was inferring😊

@WilliamHearnTOEFL_Tutor

Жыл бұрын

@@scottb4029 For sure, How about that 100 yr old wrench? It failed, took it apart and reassembled it, then it still went the distance with torque. Try that when the new one fails. Thanks for the reply. Keep on wrenching!

@thewarcraftgangster

Жыл бұрын

the rebuilt the two older ratchets. For all intents and purposes its as close as you can get to a new tool. what you said isnt really my gripe with the scientific method of these tests though.

Considering the old ones have 50-100 years of use.....they did very well.

@lukas6610

2 жыл бұрын

If they were actually used daily or weekly for 50 years there would have been more damage but yeah they def got alot more abuse before these tests

@javierortiz82

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukas6610 if that wrench was used for an average of ten minutes a week during those 50 years that's still over 3000 minutes of use or 50 hours, and I'm pretty sure those tools received more abuse than that. Edit: Math is hard, keep on scrolling to find the correct numbers.

@icosthop9998

2 жыл бұрын

Yes they did ( Remember not to lend out your tools)

@twanlange2827

2 жыл бұрын

@@javierortiz82 I mean yeah, that’s true. But is 50hrs of use a threshold of some kind? You could also say 20mins a week would be 100hrs, but does that mean anything? What I’m saying is: why is it important?

@JamarcusWilliams884

2 жыл бұрын

@@twanlange2827 i think it’s just a way of putting the amount of abuse these tools have taken and turning it into a measurable amount with a unit such as hours

I used to work at a mostly empty Sears where I would repair old Craftsman ratchets and breaker bars. I would routinely see ratchets with huge cheater bars welded onto them, ratchets whose owner was the grandson of the original buyer, and ratchets that had been used as shop hammers. Most of the time, I could get the ratchets back to working order with some grease and/or a repair kit. When the store finally closed down I made out like a bandit with dozens of repair kits for all kinds of years and models, along with other archeological items I found in the long-abandoned backrooms.

@syn4057

2 жыл бұрын

Lucky!

@A_A_Ron001

2 жыл бұрын

@BentoBuff for sure I have at least 3 that I'd like to rebuild

@coreymonk

2 жыл бұрын

@BentoBuff it's almost like they did that in the video you're commenting on 😂

@tstryker03

2 жыл бұрын

Some of the really old Craftsman tools can bring big money.

@elrobo832

2 жыл бұрын

Selling any cool stuff? Got an eBay store?

For me the 50 and 100 yo ones win with one feature: You can take them apart. Even if they break, you can fix them. You don't need to get a new one, and if you have a spare repair kit for them, you can fix them up right there in the shop and continue working. The ideal would be to have the new one but with the ability to take it apart and fix on the spot.

@ku8721

2 жыл бұрын

For me, the new one wins HANDS DOWN!!! The drive is literally half what the old ones are. And that may not make much sense to you but when you have your arm twisted up trying to remove the #8 bolt on an exhaust manifold you'd understand real quick. Also while yes I couldn't fix it myself I can take it to any Craftsman dealer and exchange it for a new model... for free no questions asked! Yes I'd love LOVE it if I could fix it myself but I'll trade that for a better working tool any day.

@danielfrancis7798

Жыл бұрын

The older ones win for me too. What sucks tho is back when there were Sears stores everywhere you could just take these in and people could take these things apart and replace parts for you cause they all had lifetime guarantees. Now that most are gone you can’t do that anymore.

@ku8721

Жыл бұрын

@@danielfrancis7798 They still have lifetime guarantees, and now you can take them to any Lowes, Home Depot, or Ace hardware and they all do exchanges. Way WAY more options than before and odds are one of those stores is closer to you than any Sears used to be. And that is because Sears doesn't own them anymore! It was sold to Black and Decker in 2017. And just a side note all those tools were made by different manufacturers. Sears never made the tools, they paid other companies to make them. The only factor the new one loses on was not being able to repair it, but I can go 8 minutes down the road to Ace Hardware and replace it in about the same amount of time. Honestly the much shorter drive is a way more important feature if you work in tight spaces such as on cars

@joshuapowell2675

Жыл бұрын

As someone who worked on aircraft, as long as there isn't a significant performance difference, I would always take the lifetime warranty over self-repair. Parts go out of production over time. As cool as the old ones are, the new one performed as well/better and you have that warranty. No contest in my mind

@ReNeu60

Жыл бұрын

problem is you can fix them if you can get parts which I don't think you can as they give you a new tool to replace the old.

My dad had one of the 100 year old 1/2 ratchets. I still use it to this day. It's my no more playing around ratchet. It's outlasted some of my brand new ratchets. I even busted an almost brand new ratchet with an extremely rusted bolt. I grabbed my old craftsman and it had no issues

@patrickblakesley5153

8 күн бұрын

yo my dad hass that same set too!

When it comes to the tooth count talking about the old tools not working in tight spaces. They didn’t need to back then. 26 teeth was more than enough with the space engine bays used to have

@StealthNinja4577

2 жыл бұрын

I could be wrong but what's stopping you from opening up the old boy and popping in a higher toothed gear.

@BlahBlah-wp9gr

2 жыл бұрын

engine bays making big block engines look small. good times.

@thefizz9521

2 жыл бұрын

@@StealthNinja4577 nothing

@someusername121

2 жыл бұрын

@@StealthNinja4577 the packaging of ratchets changes depending on the tooth count. Even if it's the same style of mechanism (how many pawls), they can change the height of the hub depending on how much engagement they want vs. the number of teeth engaging. So you'd probably be getting lucky if you could swap the guts but I would expect it to be an exception.

@StealthNinja4577

2 жыл бұрын

@@someusername121 I don't think there's as much diversity. The head of the ratchet is roughly the same size through out the industry from what I can tell so you have to fit that form factor. This is why I'd like to see a cut away of the new one to see if the guts are truly different. There's also modifying the parts to fit better, if the new gear is a bit too tall you can always grind it down or vise versa add spacers.

was hoping they'd dunk the tools in some sand and dirt to see how the non serviceable one stacks up against the other two. 10/10 episode nevertheless

@billywuzhere9256

2 жыл бұрын

There is also not two groups of fans whining on for deccenia about how the one they prefer is better

I know that having a high engagement ratchet is nice. But, when you're talking about 1/2 models, they do need to have high precision, as Aaron Sovey says, "toughness and durability should be measured by how many times it can be used as a hammer."

the fact that a 100 year old tool perform as well as a brand new one is in it own right amazing. i highly doubt todays new tool will perform as well in a hundred years from now

@tnc7399

Жыл бұрын

Probably will. The mechanics haven't changed much in 100 years

@icesalami

Жыл бұрын

but it didn't lol, they had less teeth. image trying to take out transmission bolts with that old junk

@CatTechSupport

Жыл бұрын

@@icesalami have used tools handed down to me by my father and my grandfather and modern day tools I got myself: there is a noticeable difference. The durability of a tool that is taken care of even if used from 40 plus years go is very much different from today when you start talking material, material composition, and material durability. Modern day metals used in tools are definitely cutting cost on production by adding chromium, vanadium, and a few other metals that decrease rust potential but limit the durability of the item, but in the past things like adding chromium or vanadium was frowned upon because it limited just that. Things are not build like they were in the past, sure materials have advanced but the actual materials used for large scale production will always cut costs due to sheer cost of newer modern day materials. Example of this is knives: try to find a die cut 1095 or 5160 spring steel pocket knife for less than 20 dollars, and then try to find one made out of 410 stainless surgical steel. You will not find one made of 1095 or 5160 under 20 dollars but you will find many made of the stainless steel that is cheaper to produce and is less durable.

@Sir_Tachyon

Жыл бұрын

@@CatTechSupport Clearly someone doesn’t understand material science. Also I can assure you that new craftsman ratchet is not made out of stainless steel.

@dmkmn4612

9 ай бұрын

​@@Sir_TachyonI don't think you understood his comment

Getting Jeremiah and Zach together on a show was the best thing donut could've done. Edit: didn't think this would blow up like that. Plus a like from Donut. Guess I've achieved my final form, I'm gonna stop trying now.

@MrMathoks

2 жыл бұрын

Zero chemistry

@myuncleleft3682

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrMathoks are we watching the same video??

@jessewilson6837

2 жыл бұрын

I thought they were the same person for the first year they were on the show

@TenshiR

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessewilson6837 I still think they are 🤔

@jorgebustillos8469

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrMathoks such a fool

Only Donut can make me watch a comparison between socket wrenches and be entertained by it

@frogswurld

2 жыл бұрын

Check out Project Farm.

@andrewjoe1836

2 жыл бұрын

I love donut but they will never compare to Project Farm

@313soldier313

2 жыл бұрын

You know you’re watching the right thing when you go to comment it and everyone else already has. Project farm is the gold standard

@EricTheBlue2010

2 жыл бұрын

@@frogswurld I was gonna chime in with this. 100% recommend project farm. This video was a joke compared to the systematic and scientific manner of abuse he tests the tools to..... absolute failure

Man there’s just something about turning a ratchet in your hand that is just so satisfying. Listening to it is just. Aaaahhh yessss

Donut’s sound design team is so amazing. Keep it up guys!

The only question left is, will the new one last 100 years and still work nearly the same as it did while new like the other two

@j7...

2 жыл бұрын

No

@paulcox2009

2 жыл бұрын

Guess we will have to wait 100 years to find out lol

@tylersowa3858

2 жыл бұрын

No way

@mg.mp3681

2 жыл бұрын

Find out next time on Dragon Ball Super

@joeharris6464

2 жыл бұрын

No not even close

You've also got to factor in the endurance. The new one performed the best, but the other two performed only slightly worse after decades and even a full century of use. I don't know how long the new one would last, but the 100 year old one looks like it could do another century no sweat

@mvd4436

2 жыл бұрын

The basic technology hasn't changed for 100 years. The head on the new one is smaller and better to get into places. I wonder if the heads on ones 100 years from now will be smaller yet

@mrfixitusa6165

2 жыл бұрын

@@mvd4436 100 years from now they won't have gears, it'll be Bluetooth 😝

@joshua_J

2 жыл бұрын

@@mvd4436 I agree with you but remember the head on the new one can't be disassembled like they did to the 100 year old one and these idiots didn't put it together correctly causing it to fail but once the tightened it properly it still put up the same damn numbers. They should have tested them to failure!

@RyanC_ART

2 жыл бұрын

with the lifetime warranty though you could be swapping that wrench out once every 5 or 6 years.

@urmom5835

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrfixitusa6165 nah but unironically they will probably be using ratchet bearings or some kind of weird clutch.

So much space to work on things in the old timey cars. Brought a wistful tear to my eyes. Nowadays changing sparkplugs can be a 4 hour job just getting to them.

The middle set "50 year old", I got the entire set when was going out of design in the 90's right at perfect timing. Three sizes of wrenches and about every socket you can dream of, on clearance. No issues with them 30 years later except my spark plug socket the rubber insert died 2 months ago (was soo mad, but little chunk of rubber lasted lol). I've had different brand wrenches and sockets since then randomly added, but have many many of those sockets split with usage while not a single one of my Craftman sockets have died yet. My favorite tool purchase ever and was my first big purchase (heck was half off and still over hundred, back in the 90's). I'm sure they will go on to my son.

@tsherwoodrzero

7 ай бұрын

I have the same 50 year old ones too, my dad got them for me in 2004 or 2005, with the same 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2" drive ratchets. The only issue I've had was when I cracked a socket by improper use. Entirely my fault, and I tweaked the 1/4" ratchet a bit. Still works, but doesn't catch on every tooth perfectly anymore. Never got around to getting it fixed, and it still works, so I'm just gonna leave it alone. Pretty sure the whole set was around $220 at the time.

The fact that the new one is not serviceable tells me that it is not built to last. And surely you can change the teeth on the older ones since they are serviceable. Really enjoy this series. Can't wait for more.

@EdgarHernandez-xj5mx

2 жыл бұрын

Well they have lifetime warranties so if it does break you can get a new one.

@thinkdunson

2 жыл бұрын

or maybe it's sealed to keep dust out, so it doesn't need to be serviced (by the user). and in terms of actual service by craftsman, giving out a new tool is way cheaper than maintaining a service department.

@privatemale27

2 жыл бұрын

Think of it like old serviceable bicycle bearings vs sealed cartridges. Closer tolerances / better seals that prevent the entry of contaminants let the cartridges last a very long time. I've never had one fail. I have had quite a few instances of failed bearings when it was necessary to open the hub clean and re-pack them periodically. You often wouldn't know there was an issue until damage made it obvious.

@robertstrawser1426

Жыл бұрын

@@EdgarHernandez-xj5mxTrue, but only if the company is still in business or if you have a dealer located nearby. Also if you’re working in an environment where the tool is exposed to a lot of fine grit and solvents I could see where serviceability could be a better option. Pros and cons. For me the biggest selling point of a “Lifetime” warranty is that the company has faith in their quality.

This is now my favorite Donut show. I feel like Money Pit didn't finish, but whatever.

@AandA_Animations

2 жыл бұрын

That's cause the Miata is a project car, and you know what they say a project car is never done

@studioqueen4902

2 жыл бұрын

I feel the exact same way

@MadRaiiden

2 жыл бұрын

@@AandA_Animations That's such a great answer haha

@tomfurstyfield

2 жыл бұрын

@@AandA_Animations well they did the e36 after and that didn't feel like they finished it

@kiyosenl.3889

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomfurstyfield not at all, the miata felt like they left at a bit of a stopping point, the e36 just kinda ended and felt like a random stopping point, I also just wasn't too keen on that one anyways

I can't even stand to sit through the torture tests I'm not even gunna lie, don't wanna see that beautiful old craftsman get destroyed lmao

I love the function and look of my Craftsman Ratchets. I have the “50 year old” versions. I’m really not a fan of the rounded version with rubber/plastic handles. I like being able to smack the square-ish handles with hammer sometimes, or lock a closed end wrench around the handle for more leverage.

@benmoen

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I've got the same ones as well

@WhatnotSoforth

Жыл бұрын

I've used the "50yo" version as well. I really dislike the square-ish handle because it can be painful to use, although it's very easy to maintain your grip while you are really honking down on something. I don't get the same assurance with the ergonomic handles, and like you pointed out, you shouldn't smack em with a hammer!

@Sweet68Camaro

Жыл бұрын

@@WhatnotSoforth I smack them to brake a bolt loose. Like one or two times. Besides it’s a Craftsman, I trust them.

@darkvisiongothacked

Жыл бұрын

@@Sweet68Camaro ive broke a crafstmen doing that once. It was my dad's wrench(was using his garage to help a friend do an engine swap). It broke when i was using a "small" 4ft" long breaker bar, or sometimes jack handle on it. Sears replaced it no questions asked. Also was surprised, and said so to my dad. see this was the same ratchet i had seen him use for 20+ years WITH breaker bars, including once when we were trying to get the flywheel off my engine block where i was standing ON the block to stop it moving as much and he was standing at the end of about a 6ft" breaker bar and bouncing up and down. The craftsmen socket did not break, the wrench did not, that bolt did though. End of the day after 20 years of pure grade A abuse, it broke. It was replaced the same day with a trip to the store with no questions asked. THAT is why i only buy crafstmen. Not ONLY can you put it through decades of normal use, you can put it through decades of "its not actually meant to do that, lets do it anyway" abuse and if/when it breaks just get a brand new one. Craftsmen is the goat of hand tools, period.

@jonathanwright5550

Жыл бұрын

My pet peeve with the rubber handles is coolant getting on the rubber

Huge props to stating something that is absolutely true but few seem to understand: Good things can be made anywhere, bad things can be made anywhere.

@jackarnoldy8966

2 жыл бұрын

People like U.S.A. made tools not just because of a sense of patriotism, but because they know the worker who made it, earns living wages, and poored their heart and soul into the product

@joey_f4ke238

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackarnoldy8966 And still many usa made tools now that advertise it as a seal of quality end up being sub par quality, not because they are bad but because they are no better than others and still you pay a premium, making expectations waay higher than they should be

@ku8721

2 жыл бұрын

@@joey_f4ke238 Very VERY true, we here in the US do not have some magical way of making tools stronger and better, but too many people see that stamp and think "Well this must be the best one!" Honestly look at the price if an American tool costs LESS than a Chinese, Mexican, or German one then those guys probably put in the extra effort to make it worth that much... Or the seller is trying to rip you off, so still do your research.

@unhingedhobbyist6722

Жыл бұрын

It's more or less that we want our economy in America, not China.

@warrensteel9954

Жыл бұрын

@@jackarnoldy8966 there's no guarantee someone in the US is actually making a living wage.

Fireman's Axe Drop test? I feel we coulda done something a little more practical for the durability test

@aquarianmoonproductions5566

2 жыл бұрын

Entertaining non the less

@aquarianmoonproductions5566

2 жыл бұрын

Drop a lift arm on it

@-Jethro-

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed: Simply dropping the ratchets from various heights would be a better and much more realistic test.

@tristenbenton904

2 жыл бұрын

Is very similar to a material hardness testing though, when they test material in lab they do a similar dimple test, the bigger the dimple the softer the material.

@xrazzr1

2 жыл бұрын

i think that test was kinda dumb, the 50 and 100 year old socket wrench are a "living proof" of the durability, if they are that old and aint broken, they are durable as fuck and the usability test is also dumb, its a 50 and 100 year old tool, different time and technology, this could work on modern tools but older tools are obvious that they have different angles and range. i get that its just for entertaining but cmon.

The 50 and 100 are probably made by New Britain or Snap On. Really top quality. My Dad built P38s during the war, they used Craftsman tools.

My experience says that older stuff is usually better built, serviceable & reliable.

@rexisretro

Жыл бұрын

i always thought of this to be true because we all know companies need to make more money and to do that they have to find new ways to make stuff cheaper

I think what this proves overall is that you don't NEED to get brand new tools to get the job done. But it also shows that a quality tool stays quality

@TwizztidAngel

2 жыл бұрын

The difference comes into play when you use them everyday professionally. Trust me when I say this a craftsmen sockets dimensions are not as precise as a snap on or matco.

@Monuments_to_Good_Intentions

2 жыл бұрын

I have been buying old tools at auctions for pennies on the hundreds of dollars. No warranty on many, but still find craftsman, mac, and matco, some snap ons also. I bought a box of tools for $15, some wrenches, had a broken Mac flex head ratchet, they replaced it for free. So I got a $130 tool for $15 with a bunch of free wrenches. All kinds of good stuff at auctions

@mylifeisajokeorisit

2 жыл бұрын

You still need high end tools. They said craftsman best tooth is 50. Snap on, Mac, Milwaukee, and dewalt are 90 teeth. Way more useful.

@TwizztidAngel

2 жыл бұрын

@Hardware John I can't remember the company but I had to get a 12 pt 30 mm heavy socket for axle nut at work. But with my Milwaukee 1/2 inch impact there hasn't been an axle nut that I can't take off. It is very well made and fits with very little slop. Came with the tool to pry out the safety bend.

I think there's something to be said about the 100 year old one in the last test because you had an issue with it and were able to take it apart, check it out, put it back together, and test it again. If the same would've happened to the new one you wouldn't have that option. The big problem with the old ones is the fact that parts for repair will be more difficult to find, more expensive, and if they're reproduction they'll most likely be made to a lesser standard.

@GODZREAP3R

Жыл бұрын

Huh what are you talking about I've taken my craftsman rachets apart an fix them

@timarc9895

Жыл бұрын

A whole lotta nonsense

@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks

Жыл бұрын

you say the reproduction will be of lower quality but there are many instances where that is just not true. in this instance if someone is selling a repair kit for a 100 year old ratchet, it's likely using new materials and new alloys, and if you pay attention to what alloys are being used and you will likely get the same quality or durability if not better because of the new materials. hell it's even possible to update and upgrade older ratchets with a 50 tooth gear and pawl set. those that propose the argument that "finding parts is hard" haven't actually spent the time to look into where or how you can get parts for the ratchet or get them made. at the end of the day the mechanics of a ratchet are pretty simple. if you know the dimensions and the specs of the internal components, you can find them or get them made. often in an afternoon from a skilled machinist.

@guily6669

9 ай бұрын

@@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks I don't know hows their warranty but if you purposely break a new one doing over tightening test and if the brand just replace or fix for free it's all the same as long as they are in business then you can just keep sending them and get it fixed or a new one... Now having modern not very repairability stuff without lifetime warranties is a whole different problem.

@Kafedaki

9 ай бұрын

Probably the point is “Buy this brand! It’s even better today”! We do not get confused any more Right?

My grandfather was an RAF engineer in ww2 and was given a plomb ratchet by a US engineer (I believe standard issue at the time) he used it throughout his career and I still use it now. 80 years strong.

I have socket sets, pipe wrenches, adjustable spanners, pipe threaders. All my dads from the 1960's and all used to fit out power stations, so they're massive. Serious quality compared to the stuff from today

Gotta remember there's 50 and 100 years of use one the old tools. Be cool to see the new tool tested after a 100 years of simulated use

did not like the last test, considering the first test was takeing them apart, and i seemed to work fine after re-tightening i would write it off as human error at the service part.

@kiyosenl.3889

2 жыл бұрын

Personally id doubt that, Its likely just due to all the damaged teeth, that gear is pretty banged up, they just hit a few bad ones in a row, they finally snagged a good one and it worked great, id like to see what that ratchet could do with a rebuild kit thrown in though tbh

@dirtcheapmedia3390

2 жыл бұрын

@@onyxphantom6762 agreed possible the grease they used could have prevented the pawl from engaging properly as well

@HNemo880

2 жыл бұрын

@@kiyosenl.3889 they even mentioned that they made sure the screws were tightened down as much as they could. To me that means that the first time they did it the screws weren’t properly tighten down. They probably didn’t tighten it as much because it’s such an old tool and didn’t want to strip a screw out. I seriously doubt that it went from barely being able to hold 80 pounds to being able to hold 450+ within the same ratchet

@keithadoodle

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigboreracing356 I donno man, I've got a wrench made in Japan that's around 150 years old and I wouldn't give it up for anything.

@thinkdunson

2 жыл бұрын

but human error should also be taken into account in these tests. the new tool was designed specifically to take human error out of the equation. if a tool was designed in a way that human error can affect its performance, i think that should count negatively.

I've been on KZread nearly every day for the last 15 years watching videos such as this... How is it i'm just now coming across this channel with nearly 8 million subscribers ? This just goes to show how VAST KZread really is !

In 1947, my dad bought his Craftsman tool set from Sears to work in a Hudson car dealership in Detroit, the tool kit included 1/2 and 3/8 ratchets, sockets, breaker bars and extensions in a metal box all for $14.95. In 1975 most of the worn out sockets were replaced free of charge by Sears. My brother still has that tool set after my dad passed away in 2020.

These guys are just brilliant together I love em

Donut releases a new video Everyone: This is now my favorite Donut show.

I’m partial to the “50-year old” set. My dad has 2 sets of these guys, and he’s used them on I would guess at least a few thousand jobs, and I grew up using them my entire life. They are now part of my tools and I use them constantly. I won’t buy another set of ratchets ever until they finally let go. I hope they last me another 50 years as well. ☺️

I received all of my grandfathers tools after he passed because I’m the only one still doing automotive in the family and almost every tool is the vintage craftsman stuff. I still have some new stuff I use but sometimes those craftsman wrenches or ratchets give me what I need. Love em to death and they’ve come through for me on some tough spots when my other tools couldn’t

I wonder how that rubber coating on the new ratchet holds up after 50 years

@StealthNinja4577

2 жыл бұрын

Wonder if it's actual rubber or a plastic and rubberized coating. I've seen the latter turn into a sticky mess in 5-10 years

@andrewjoe1836

2 жыл бұрын

Ever used a 50yr old condom? That will give you an idea.

@oldscratch3535

2 жыл бұрын

@@StealthNinja4577 Those coatings are terrible. I found an original Motorola Droid the other day and the entire back was a melted, sticky mess where it had that rubberized coating on it.

@StealthNinja4577

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldscratch3535 yea a thin coating on an old device was completely eaten through so some alcohol freed it and wiped it off

@winfortheworld

2 жыл бұрын

Even Snap-on ratchet grips become junk quickly. The combination of hitting things/oil/dropping etc. means they don't last long. Snap-on will replace the grip though, so that has to be taken into account when considering value.

It looks like the 100yo version came with a breaker bar that was the same size as the ratchet. Makes me think they weren't really expecting you to put 400 ft lb of force on the ratchet itself, you'd use the small breaker until it was loosened.

@warrensteel9954

Жыл бұрын

After 100 years the teeth were a bit worn down. Once they adjusted it to the less worn teeth it performed pretty good. But yes I was taught to never use a ratchet to break a nut free. Surprisingly enough my newest breaker bar is rated to 400ftlbs and has a ratcheting head.

@UndefinedStasis

Жыл бұрын

@@warrensteel9954 lmao I try my hardest to avoid using a socket wrench as a breaker bar but sometimes there's just places a socket wrench will fit and a breaker bar won't. For example a singular bolt on my alternator broke 4 socket wreches before it came lose all because all my breaker bars won't fit

@warrensteel9954

Жыл бұрын

@@UndefinedStasis okay, maybe I'll rephrase that. Never use a ratchet you care about to break a nut free.

@dubmob151

Жыл бұрын

Surprisingly enough, test to destruction trials show that the driving head actually fail by shearing before the ratcheting mechanism does. Regardless of that, I'll still always use a breaker bar instead of a ratchet with a cheater bar, which is generally what's needed to get to the torque required to break them.

@georgerosebush9754

Жыл бұрын

Using it in a way it wasn't designed for, where it would see much more load than usual, well why would that be in a torture test?

I use that 50 year old ratchet as my main 1/2 ratchet at work. Literally found it in a scrap metal bin, it was all jammed up and didn't ratchet at all. Took it apart, gave it some fresh grease, it's good as new. Serviceability is great. Free is great. I do still keep a cheap Chinese fine tooth ratchet for tight spots where that matters though.

Remember that more teeth means shallower, weaker teeth, like fine, shallow threads vs coarse deep threads. There used to be regular and 'fine-toothed' ratchets available for that reason.

Original title: 100 Year-Old Socket Wrench TORTURE TEST

@Warrison_

2 жыл бұрын

Alright

@hyakkimarufluff534

2 жыл бұрын

i like how this comment was just bombarded by sex scam bots

@_zedf656

2 жыл бұрын

@@hyakkimarufluff534 Looks like it's most/all comments...

I love the metal cases the old tools came in...my dad has a metal box set, was painted red, but paint has lots of battle damage scars.... My father in law worked on trucks and damn, the metal boxes he has....I dont know, I'm not even a mechanic, but I love those old metal boxes. They will outlast generation of families.

Craftsman was my Grandfather's brand (machinist and electrical engineer) because lifetime guarantee. Grew up with tools in the tin cases. A childhood dream, I suppose looking back. Got to put that lifetime guaranee to the test once back when Sears was still at think. Snapped a 7mm allen wrench. Walked into Sears (Winter Haven, FL), showed them the pieces and they handed me a new set (when they still had 7mm in them) no questions asked. Beautiful.

Honestly one of the best shows you have ever done

I'd love to have that 100 y/o wrench in my collection.

"V-Series" is Stanley Black & Decker's (SBD-current owner of Craftsman) way of capitalizing on the USA made V coded tools Sears Craftsman made in the mid to late 1900s, which are plentiful and widely regarded as some of the best out there. I have a bunch of Made in the USA Craftsman tools and the newer ones (Sears or SBD) work but don't stack up in terms of fit and finish.

@theupscriber65

2 жыл бұрын

Eh

@mercury0214

2 жыл бұрын

My new vseries craftsman curbstomp anything I’ve ever gotten power tool wise. Craftsman was never strong in power tools now there pretty good

@elultimo102

2 жыл бұрын

@@mercury0214 I found at least some of their corded power-tools to be relabeled Skil.

@mercury0214

2 жыл бұрын

@@elultimo102 yup now most are just relabeled dewalts but can you complain that’s all anything is nowadays lol everything’s owned by one or two big sluggers

@Mattwiistand

2 жыл бұрын

My craftsman power drills are pretty meh. But they were 100 bucks with two batteries for an impact and drill. I keep them around and take them to do dirty jobs. I keep my nicer power tools for nice jobs or home projects.

as an old tool guy I'd ad a couple more categories- which "feels" better in your hand, and which one looks like it was made by hand with the love of a craftsman? I've got an antique Snap-On socket set that gives me a warm fuzzy every time I use it, new tools simply don't do that! Great show!

I have always loved craftsman warranty. I have had them replace many screwdrivers. You can't go wrong with that. I have a socket set about 30 years old, still working well . I have a really old one also about 70years old that still works but I don't use it that much, it doesn't ratchet as well as the newer ones. But cool video and I'm glad to hear that they are still building them as strong as they used to be.

The destructive test on those beautiful old tools was painful to watch, but a good episode. I like the servicability of the older tools appeals to the desire in me to keep what works, and not just throw things away and get new ones, even if they are under warranty.

A few months back, I found a handful of old Snap-on sockets, wrenches and breaker bars from my Grandpa's shop. Man they are great!

I can honestly say I've never really had problems even with cheap ratchets. I've had more sockets fail than ratchets. The one thing I will say is that compared to old ratchets, the new fine-tooth ratchets are definitely more convenient especially in vehicles today since everything is so much more packed in and hard to reach.

That is a great statement that most people seem to forget, "Good things can be made anywhere and bad things can be made anywhere".

I think the reliability factor is already taken by the older tools. The fact that you have 2 forged steel tools that can still hack 400+ ftlbs no problem is something I doubt the mild steel new boy could hack every day or even over time. Yes there is lifetime warranty but serviceability and just the feel of a tool you've used for a long time can't be beaten, especially for those folks who don't have a automotive tools shop down the road to pick up another one in.

taking apart the ratchet is one of the coolest things i learned in my auto tech class, my teacher only taught like 3 people a year and i was one of the only girls he taught. so fun and useful for my hand-me-down tool set

@tbozzz8785

2 жыл бұрын

If only more girls/women took interest in wrenching when i was growing up lol

@YungSteambuns

Жыл бұрын

Why was that piece of information (one of the only girls he taught) at all important to what you where talking about? Honestly curious

@CrazyBarks

Жыл бұрын

@@YungSteambuns pride? prestige? does it truly matter any? people tend to include irrelevant or useless information when telling anecdotes, the human mind values some arbitrary details over others, but a lot are still ultimately arbitrary.

I had a couple of those 50 year old ratchets... I actually still do. The internal spring wears out after awhile causing it to slip at the worst time. Otherwise a very reliable ratchet. The new ones cannot hold up to shop environments. The rubber handle will soon wear out from oil contamination. you should also test handling (grip) comfort.

I would take a look at Project Farm's videos and how he does some of his testing and maybe apply that to this series. the 'Practicality' chapter felt... underwhelming.

@SlapperGlutesTwice

2 жыл бұрын

project farm and/or torque test channel. i love donut but their tool tests are garbage

@AlbinoFuzWolf

2 жыл бұрын

Project farm took the wrenches till they snapped, or in old craftman usa's case, the welded bolt snapped.

@abelq8008

2 жыл бұрын

Plus project farm would incorporate a weird mannequin somehow.

@aadams3316

2 жыл бұрын

I think Project Farm has spoiled us by how good his comparison tests are. The Donut versions are definitely trying to capitalize on the production value to make up on the substance shortcomings. Appreciate their efforts, but I'd rather watch them for high-low or other semi-technical content.

I love the dynamic and how these guys just nerd out together and get lost in the engineering together. It’s similar to how Hammond and May would completely ignore Jeremy and dive into a project. Great show just for the dynamic!

The banana for scale really helped put things in to perspective for me. Thank you.

Really love this tool comparison series. Keep these coming!!!

I feel I use my old school ratchets about 10% of the time now that battery powered tool have gotten pretty good

@ghostpunkkilla

2 жыл бұрын

Same, been wrenching for a while now (20+ years hobby) and the electric dac-dacs make life a whole lot easier.

Awesome video. i collect vintage Craftsman ratchets and one thing I've noticed is that they don't like thick grease (like wheel bearing grease). My go to is multi-purpose super lube and it's gotta be put on light. Another thing I always do when I get a old ratchet is replace the pawl springs. They tend to weaken over time and don't get proper teeth engagement and can slip.

@junkcollector93

2 жыл бұрын

Also I've bought 2 new 3/8 Craftsman ratchets last year. they might be stronger in their design but they seem to wear faster, one of mine already sound pretty unhealthy and that's just under normal use without a cheater pipe.

I've got some old Craftsman sockets, ratchets and wrenches. They've outlasted newer ones and are still being used daily

Lost it at the post greasing ASMR "Oooh, ahhh" ✨⚙️🎵🤤✨

Great show guys... It's like an irreverent 'Project Farm'😂

Donut media will and WILL always be stored in my heart, they are my homies even if I never met them or talked to them. Every video I smile who ever is on the show :) makes everything better ❤️

I work as a tool tech at a car factory and they are right. Reliability and ease of use are top priorities in the industry.

You two fellas are fibbin, the Imperial DOES run!! For those of y'all that DON'T know, about a year or so ago, Kevin & Mook from JunkyardDigs came out from Iowa & helped Nolan not only diagnosed the engine, but DID actually get it running & runnin WELL!!

Absolutely love when these two do videos together. They both have so much knowledge from different mechanical backgrounds, it's great to see them working in action together!

While the permanently sealed assembly of the new ratchets is an overall negative aspect there is an argument for it greatly reducing the amount of grit building up inside in the first place so I would've given it a 1/5 personally.

@twanlange2827

2 жыл бұрын

0/5 in serviceability, but maybe higher scores on durability because of it?

@Stg4100

2 жыл бұрын

@@twanlange2827 everything is serviceable, it's probably a recessed snap ring.

@BigWheel.

2 жыл бұрын

Id argue If a ratchet is put together well it shouldn't get dirt inside easily in the first place. Serviceable or not. A sealed head is theoretically good, but what if it's not put together good enough and dirt can still get inside?

Wow! I Didn't know 1933 was 100 years ago! You learn more each day

1:22 Rikishi has really slimmed down since giving up wrestling.

Love these series. Super helpful especially when you are on the budget. Thanks for putting out great content.

I wanna see this same test across price points. Like Pittsberg, vs Craftsman/Kolbalt vs Snap-on

@Epotheros

2 жыл бұрын

Lookup the channel Project Farm. He does all sorts of cross brand testing.

@Khan.WrathOf

2 жыл бұрын

Kobalt sucks across the board.

@keiichi1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Khan.WrathOf ive never had issue with any of their tools.

I love y'all's channel, (I'm drunk) but honestly y'all have good content, and teaches young kids and adults alike that being a mechanic, ( at least a slight mechanic) is a good thing to know

Man I felt kinda dumb when Jobe said "wow I've never seen a ratchet like this" and that's the ONLY kind I've ever used. I guess my dad just had really old tools when I was growing up 😅

I don't have any non-serviceable ratchets. I didn't even know they existed. I'm sorry, did you say 50 teeth? 50? In a modern ratchet?

@ninjawombat4154

2 жыл бұрын

Harbor freight ratchets are 72 teeth now lol.

1:45-As a mechanic named Brice i had to laugh at that one. And yes I’m the guy that won’t step foot inside the old snap-on rape wagon and use craftsman 90% of the time. Still work circles around those snap-on fan boys. Tools don’t make the mechanic and anyone who says they do probably doesn’t turn wrenches for a living.

@HarleySLA

Жыл бұрын

I feel like most of us have a healthy mix of tools. It's all about getting the job done, not breaking the bank to do it.

@crimcyan3037

Жыл бұрын

I used to think like you but after spending more time fucking around with cheaper tools with them breaking or just not working great I've quickly learned snapon is usually worth it most of the time, especially for being a heavy duty mechanic my tools get extremely abused

You fellows are one of my main go to for tests, reports and great presentations. Thanks

These two are the best duo ever

The editors of these videos are doing a fantastic job. All of the team do a great job and that's why I love this channel

@ksmedina

Жыл бұрын

Donut's editors are in another level

Would love to see a head to head of the wrenches you can buy today. Like your screwdriver test. Snap-on in the crosshairs.

I think we need Jobe and Nolan to work on getting the Imperial up and running. Lots of juicy content.

I have a couple of the "100" year old ratchets. I love them and still use them today. Some fresh oil and grease and maybe some wire wheeling when needed and it'll last forever.

This is the 2nd video I've watched with these guys and I have to say their videos are fun and cool. I have to admit I was rooting for the 100 year old socket, but on the other hand, you would hope there would be some innovation and improvement over that time period. I think the evaluation was fair enough. Still, I have my 30+ year old Craftsman set which is working just fine.

Durability test would've been way better with a test of the head of the ratchet, for all the times I have to use it as a hammer

You have the best 2 guys doing a video together Im so happy to see that

You had me at "Now that we've serviced them, ...*click* *click* *click* *click* oooh that's nice"

It'd be much more useful to compare existing ratchets and their technologies, since people can easily access them. Brands like Snap-On, Pittsburgh, ICON, Ko-Ken, Matco, Husky, Cornwell, Tekton, etc. Obviously price point would be a good comparison, drive-size (3 episodes alone: 1/4", 3/8", 1/2"), swing arch, and a practical durability test. No one is worried about dropping an axe on a ratchet. But testing them for comfort and absolute failure in the gears or body is more useful. Don't get me wrong I LOVE this KZread channel and have been following it for years. But these tool tests aren't all that useful in my opinion.

@johnhorner5711

2 жыл бұрын

Torque Test channel and others do that sort of thing all the time. No really value add in another YT channel doing the same thing IMO.

I the edits and the graphics and animations are great. Props to the editors they do a killer job. Neat video to show that new is good as well.

I love the sponsor bits and never feel the need to skip them

I grew up never caring or appreciating older nouns. Now that I'm 55, I get it. Especially since I've been working factory, assembly, and welding and fabrication, I've come to realize the older tools are damn near indestructible. And last almost forever. Some new ones are pretty badass. But I'll take older quality over today's. I had to sub to ya'll. Thank you for the information and laughs!💯💪🇺🇸🙏💛

I thought Linus was the only one who used the “banana for scale”

This was a fun watch! The only gripe in the toughness tests were as follows! Lol... 1: The axe point was sharpest on first drop. 2: The gears in the older wrenches had that many years of wear but, still held up! Love this channel bc it has a little of everything and it's all worth the 10-25 minutes every time! 👍👍👍👍

In a societal collapse I'd want the old ones.

Love watching these 2 nerds together

Hidden health benefit of waking up early: Catching Donut videos as soon as they post 😎

@metalsniper61

2 жыл бұрын

I like seeing the thumbnail before they change it