Throwback to the offseason when Troy Watson (Blue Jays MiLB) and Bradford Webb (Free Agent) threw a velo off against each other. How hard are you throwing in bullpens vs in games?

@jenker9993

3 ай бұрын

3 miles less in bullpen

I hear every inch shorter the shorts = 5mph

@SightsThePro

3 ай бұрын

😂

@piperin1620

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@simonsays525

3 ай бұрын

Speed balls

@JV-df9em

3 ай бұрын

Even when he throws a strike, it’s a balls

@philipschifano5876

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. Remember they are called SHORTS

I love the reactions in the back😂

The 100 was where I kept waiting for it.

@GrimBrother

3 ай бұрын

100.2 on trackman.

These guys got some insane talent!!!

No numbers don't change to the new anything😮. 100 is 100

Mmkay, mmkay, there you go baby, there you go. That's it right there baby, that's it right there. Cmon now, cmon baby, that's what I'm talking about. That's it right there. There it is.

The worst out pitcher is the loudest 🤣😭🤣 the Murica way 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Blue shirt is calm and cool. Red shirt is blowing himself when he leaves

He got some heat 🔥

respect to the catcher

Blue shirt is legit

Dude in the blue shirt is super consistent. Holy fastball Batman.

What is Troy’s wingspan? It’s crazy he throws so hard with that frame. He’s like Pedro Martinez

I see TJS in all thier futures

What goes into why these guys are not in a rotation? I feel like it's a question that probably doesn't have just one answer. When you have velo up to 100 MPH, does the club want them to gain more movement or control? Is it more of an off speed pitch? When you have someone come in like this with as much talent as they have, what do you as instructors work on in sessions?

@imaxdigital7052

3 ай бұрын

This isn't the year 2000 anymore. Throwing in the high 90s is far more common than it used to be. So it could be any number of factors, but those factors are driven by more competition. You can't just throw 98 and be picked up anymore. You have to throw 98 and have good movement, good accuracy, good perceived velo, etc. Guys can lack in categories as long as they make up for the deficit in other ways, but there are far more guys out there today who have it all. Look how hard this guy is working to throw 95. The other guy exerts less effort and gets more velo. There are guys who look far more relaxed than that dude and they throw 96-99.

@Integriteees

3 ай бұрын

Besides, most of those pitches thrown, weren't strikes. I don't care how hard you throw, if you don't throw strikes you're useless until you can. In another year, they'll both need "The Tommy."

@manager4409

Ай бұрын

you only see a few pitches. its possible they can't really maintain it for several innings and locate effectively. It's like lifting weights, your max-out number isn't what you normally do. His average fastball could be 4mph slower than what you see here, plus maybe he can't throw strikes worth a shit

Webb has some fantastic hair

I wish you could overlay both the tracking systems on the screen so we could see them both instead of just pointing to a screen we can't see. But still a great video!

This is some of the cutest stuff I have ever seen

This catcher wanted to shoot both of them that whole time

Do you mind answering these quick questions guys? ..... How long are your/those guy's arms and how long are their fingers or how big are their hands? Just wondering if arm length and and finger/hand length is key to be able to throw that fast and if I'm screwed with bad genetics.

@treadathletics

2 ай бұрын

Arm length is part of it; the rest really isn't going to affect it that much. If you're 5'10 with a 6'3 wing span, that's definitely better than a 6'3 guy with a 5'8 wingspan.

@manager4409

Ай бұрын

finger size does affect the movement you can get. for example pedro martinez had long fingers thats why at 5'10 he had sick movement on his changeups and curves.

That Troy is nasty nasty

i didnt know tommy john had a scent

Every ball player rhese days seems to have hair like a NC squat truck owner

Blue shirt has a fuckin laser rocket arm!...damn😮

@Mechanarian

3 ай бұрын

Dawg the red guy is only like 2-3mph behind him

@BigBass-xf5yi

3 ай бұрын

And better form

Crazy velo. Who these guys with?

@TaurineDippy

3 ай бұрын

Troy Watson (Blue Jays MiLB) and Bradford Webb (Free Agent)

95,98,100 they all would knock you the heck out.

The guy in the blue needs to join the MLB as soon as he learns change ups, sliders, curves at least. You got to know how to at least throw 5 different kinds of pitches with 2 kinds of fastballs. He needs to learn how to throw wind up pitches. He's only been throwing from a stretch position for like when a runner is on base.

@treadathletics

2 ай бұрын

He's currently in Triple A with the Blue Jays.

teammates make us better

snowball fight with these guys is not going to be fun 😂😂😂

guy in blue a monster.

WITHOUT CLEATS WTF 🔥🔥

guess its "velo day"...I also guess that latest scientific breakthroughs did show that oopmhing a few during normal scheduled bullpen sessions is not the way to go anymore.... no. its better to have a pure velo session to go all out for 20-30 pitches and call it a day. it also seems to be great to have all kinds of wacky body movement , then come to a complete stillstand to only re-introduce additional movement. but ok. whatever helps the young guns to get into their groove I suppose. I just wish we had the same acces to analytics, biomechanics and "science" way back when I played. and all the mistakes we made in our throwing schedules.... makes you wonder what would have been possible. I am just a sour old dog howlin at the moon

no

Catcher's a lil... Limp-wristed, lol.

the new way to hae TJ surgery more like it

@treadathletics

2 ай бұрын

🤔

Is this being measured at the plate or out of the hand? If it’s out of the hand, they arent throwing any harder than pitchers 20 years ago. If it’s 100 at the plate, then we can talk.

@Beenhereawhile1001

3 ай бұрын

Nobody wants to mention this for some reason. I guess so we can all ignore the truth and hype up arms like this compared to the guys from the past. Truthfully very few people even know they changed how it’s recorded so maybe it’s that.

@cnote9233

3 ай бұрын

Yes that’s a huge factor…

@sweaterwearingsquirrel9302

3 ай бұрын

It’s always at the hand now. Nolan Ryan used to get almost 100 at the plate. You do the math.

@Sliqhs

2 ай бұрын

whatever makes you feel better old man

It's almost impossible to throw More than 110mph mechanically And physically ..

Just take the hat off bro. Or turn it around so it stays on. Please

Too bad this stuff wasn’t around back when…….

His arm won’t last long

@ChungTing2003

3 ай бұрын

They’re trying their best to make it to the fastest pitches as possible as they can and I don’t think that’s how pitchers work😅

Isn’t that a balk!?!? That thing the guy in red does before his delivery…..

Training the next generation of throwers. After watching this, it’s honestly a shock that the injury rates among pitchers are what they are.

@SleepyJoesDiaper

2 ай бұрын

Just get TJ & add a few mph. DeGrom about to come back from second TJ surgery

@prestonbucher18

2 ай бұрын

@@SleepyJoesDiaper 🙄 Brilliant….

Shoug

Cocky dude should maybe not wear a hat

Yeah, guys in shorts after a few beers throwing 100. Uhh yeah. Keep dreaming

Sure - until arms break. Happy to see they are focused on mph and at the same time not looking at the stress on arm telemetry. These guys are hacks related to the physiology of body mechanics and when arms will break down. Sorry - these “coaches” are clowns unless they are getting certified by Greg Rose at TPI (OnbaseU).

@packjackisback

3 ай бұрын

This is regulated and worked into a regime. Keep your armchair advice and blatant shilling to yourself.

@prestonbucher18

3 ай бұрын

Thank you. I see these videos and it’s not hard to figure out why the elbow and shoulder injury rates are sky high…

@EricBussman

3 ай бұрын

Lmao.. What a tool 🤣🤣

@prestonbucher18

3 ай бұрын

@@EricBussman ?

Aww, not a good place for the windows placement in that place.

@treadathletics

2 ай бұрын

We believe in our nets.