Superman murders his wife and unborn child, and in a fit of rage, he murders the Joker. It seems the Joker's theory from The Killing Joke is right, "All it takes is one bad day".

@mightyDavidJ

4 жыл бұрын

I have to say that while Injustice leans into that thesis pretty hard, Superman is supposed to be above that, regardless of the incarnation. I can't reconcile Siegel and Shuster's ultimate hero falling to Joker's crap.

@mlgssj763

4 жыл бұрын

@@mightyDavidJ everyone has a breaking point

@tbuckley2031

4 жыл бұрын

Nah Roy harpers had his fair share it ain’t happening

@Chance57

4 жыл бұрын

@@tbuckley2031 get him back on heroin and his next trip might be his last

@tbuckley2031

4 жыл бұрын

Corey Kinard Jason has had so many but he’s always come back

Barbara: Don't worry dad. I got the door. (Opens it to reveal a terrifying villian) Red Skull: Hello, is this Mr. Rogers apartment. Barbara: No, their room is in Room 616. Red Skull: Okay, thank you.

@ryanmadej6694

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂lol

@mr.monitor7943

5 жыл бұрын

"Room 616" Okay, you think you're funny, huh?

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

@@mr.monitor7943 yep lol

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 I was expecting it to be the Joker or at least rest Red Skull to shoot her

@moyza_

4 жыл бұрын

Now I want to see this in a 4-panel comic.

The worst part about Judas Contract is the fact that it apparently NEEDS to be redone in some form every single time Terra is included in a show.

@TheRezro

5 жыл бұрын

Because? It is simply part of character like batman no-killing rule.

@CometX-ing

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheRezro Batman not killing isn't retelling the same story over and over again. Every time Terra shows up its pretty much expected she will betray whatever team she is on, and it gets old after the third time seeing it. they could try telling a different story with her rather than rehashing the same one for the umpteenth time.

@macnut68

5 жыл бұрын

@@CometX-ing Or just stop using female characters named Terra, since there's the baggage of betrayal associated with that character.

@iChimbo

5 жыл бұрын

@@macnut68 Titans be betrayed for one of they team-mates its a old joke...

@RagnarokMic

5 жыл бұрын

I mean, if she is included, it's a pretty critical piece of her story.

One of my favourites twists was in Neil Gaiman's _Sandman- Season of Mists_. Taunted by his sister-brother Desire, Morpheus decides to rescue his long lost love Nada from Hell (a fate actually given to her by the king of dreams for breaking his heart). However, a few years earlier, Dream earned the enmity of the King of Hell when he faced him down in front of all of his demons and damned. Lucifer swore that he would destroy him for that. Due to a sense of etiquette, Dream sends an envoy to Hell, in the form of Kane, who is protected by the very punishment God bestowed upon him. Upon receiving Morpheus' message, Lucifer shrieks with laughter and proclaims to all Hell that this day would be one they all remember. The King of Dreams then arrives in Hell, prepared to do battle, only to find that the infernal realm is silent, empty. Suspecting some trick, Morpheus yells for Lucifer who promptly appears and rather calmly tells Dream what has happened- He quit.

@doomstadt2371

5 жыл бұрын

Well, I mean, it was one of the best written comics series ever lol. Hellblazer and Sandman broke me off of "hero" comics for decades. I kinda hate what's become of Constantine, but i guess he couldn't be a selfish bastard forever lol

@Metalbloodlord

4 жыл бұрын

@@doomstadt2371 I hate DC rebirth because it ruined watchmen

If I'm remembering correctly (and I don't think I've reread it since it came out so maybe not) it wasn't an actual Guardian that Hal Jordan seems to squish the head of. Rather it was a green power projection of one, telling him to stop what he was doing. Rather than squishing a Guardians napper he merely stole power from the projection. It did rather go downhill for the Guardians and the Corps from there though...

@eversuperman

5 жыл бұрын

This is mostly accurate. Hal Jordan didn't do anything to the Guardians directly. They sacrificed all the power in themselves to give Ganthet one single ring, which he gave to Kyle Raynor. Hal did decimate much of the Corps though.

@Metalbloodlord

4 жыл бұрын

@@eversuperman DC rebirth is garbage

@Metalbloodlord

4 жыл бұрын

@@eversuperman Doomsday Clock sucks

The Joker has three true names and they're all "Martha".

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

Lol that Meme is still around

@RagnarokMic

5 жыл бұрын

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!

@frpsty189

5 жыл бұрын

Bucky... bucky is alive

@emsleywyatt3400

5 жыл бұрын

Joe Kerr.

3:05 - Hal Jordan doesn't actually kills a Guardian in this panel. He simply takes the green energy from a projection. The 3 Jokers twist might answer some questions but it raises many others.

@TheRezro

5 жыл бұрын

Just for clarity. What questions it exactly rise?

@DarkwyndPT

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheRezro Mainly continuity issues. Which of the 3 Jokers had a relationship with Harley Quinn and corrupted her? Just 1 or all 3? Did she knew about the 3 Jokers? Which one killed Jason Todd? How come Batman, the world's greatest detective, never suspected a thing?

@TheRezro

5 жыл бұрын

​@@DarkwyndPT Silver Age Joker was active earliest making mostly stupid stunts. He was sociopath but wasn't insane. Then impostor criminal genius (Bronze Age Joker) show up and he lost any relevance. At one point Joker attempt to create own copies and so third Joker (Dark Age Joker) and Joker Junior were created as result (and that probably was part of Court of Owl secret project anyway). That or he has split personality disorder, what would be cheap though. Harley Queen is new character introduced in DCAU. So there is not much problem with connecting her to all that. She was brainwashed by Bronze Age Joker and is most famous of many of his assistants. She generally don't distinguish them as part of her programming. Jason Todd was member of Red Hood gang, and so it was same gang controlled by Bronze Age Joker. It is also the reason why he needed to die as he was threat to Joker plans. In the outside materials it was also implied that he wasn't as much dead as was Joker Junior, before he snap from programming and become Red Hood. As for why Batman never find out anything? Well good question? Most likely answer is that primarily due to his presumed inanity. Joker was only villain Bruce never could fully understand. It is why he is his nemesis after all. That, and possibility that some third company was working in the background, so they did cover the tracks and keep eye on what other Jokers were doing. So they could pretend that they were present during those events or didn't clash with each other. That, or Joker has split personality what would be extremely cheap though. Also as side note in Gotham TV series we in fact have two Jokers in form of twin brother: Jerome and Jeremiah Valeska. Plus in Flashpoint Joker was no one else then Martha Kane (yes, Bruce mother). And even if it is alternative timeline, it is still grounded in the stuff from Earth-1. So Joker definitely wasn't one person.

@roryscott2941

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheRezro 3 Jokers .... Jeez, where's the Phantasm when you need him?

@TheRezro

5 жыл бұрын

@@roryscott2941 Technically there is way more, but we talking here only about prime timeline Earth-1. Also I just noticed that Superman killed Joker in Injustice, so there also was at least two there beside one from alternative universe.

I'm going to make a guess on the three Jokers or at least what will happen after this story concludes. It'll turn out that there are not in fact three Jokers but one Joker who drove two random shmucks insane for any number of reasons. But by the end, so they can trade them out at leisure, none of them truly know who's the original Joker. Until it's required for plot reasons. lol.

@johnburt7935

4 жыл бұрын

Like Doombots, only created out of human beings, with wooden clubs and broken bottles...?

@thedorkknight9684

3 жыл бұрын

Now that the book is out, i still have no idea whatsoever what happened.

@ericmiller93

2 жыл бұрын

I kinda wish you had written it because this is way better than the comic we got.

When Sabertooth raped Jean Grey, and nine issues later she later told Scott she was pregnant, it wasn't his, and left the X-Men to go be with Sabertooth with whom she fell in love.

@turkishwhiteout

4 жыл бұрын

Parallaxus this cant be real can it ?

@johnburt7935

4 жыл бұрын

@@turkishwhiteout I was pretty sure it wasn't . . . but after *_Avengers_* #200, I did a quick check before saying so definitively. www.carolastrickland.com/comics/msmarvel/

@solucaoatende

3 жыл бұрын

Not Marvell Girl, but Miss Marvell. You're a little confused...

When did people start to say that Batman definately killed Joker in Killing Joke? Wasn't the whole thing about it not to know if it actually happened?!

@izzyrebels1653

5 жыл бұрын

Technically you could say it's the opposite and that it is confirmed batman did not kill the joker because The Killing Joke made it's way into main DC canon through the physical repercussions left on Barbara aka putting her in a wheel chair and transitioning to Oracle.

@Jb-ik3pq

3 жыл бұрын

MforMovesets it’s called the killing joke...

@darrenhood4033

3 жыл бұрын

No the point of the joke is that one person is crazy enough to believe they could walk across a flashlight beam but scared that their friend would kill them by turning it off. One refuses to kill, the other is crazy enough to think they could. Batman and Joker are dark reflections of the other. Both born out of tragedy but while Batman wars on all criminals so that no 8 year old child should suffer like he has choosing not to kill since that would clash with his ideals, the Joker is who Batman could be if he chose to give into the madness of grief and sew chaos and anarky, killing being a means to an end or just fun. One knows that the song and dance will go on forever unless someone turns off the flashlight, but both know it wont.

The Gilda Dent twist actually got me as well. U never hear of it when ppl discuss the long Halloween.

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah the twist was amazing

@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL

5 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Valery it’s cuz it was foreshadowed so much. The best twist isn’t the one u don’t see coming, it’s the one u should have seen coming but u didn’t.

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

@@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL now that you think of it it actually makes sense the fact they asked me back to Gotham she told Batman to find her husband I should have seen it but I didn't she seems so innocent and also very sad at the same time and then the twist happened at the end I was like what

@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL

5 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Valery same rlly as soon as I read that last page I was like omg of course who didn’t I get this as the Falcone family were affecting her the most tbh. The stress was putting pressure on there marriage and she was always complaint about the Falcone’s through out the book so the only real way to have her husband back would be through killing them. Plus batman said about the gun being light and ideal fit for a woman and the baby bottle nib thing which is seen in her house as they were trying for children. Plus the holiday weapons found in Harvey’s basement is supposed to mislead and for us to think it’s either him or he got them as evidence but they actually belonged to Gilda and Harvey knew all along as he even said. “There were two holiday killers”. It’s Batman’s only unsolved case as he thought it was to do with Harvey’s obsession with two’s but he never caught Gilda Dent. She left Gotham without a trace never to be seen again and never to be found out as the new holiday killer.

Also re: 3Jokers, don't you actually mean it'll split us '3 ways'?

@roryscott2941

5 жыл бұрын

Ha.

@johnburt7935

4 жыл бұрын

My immediate thought.

@Metalbloodlord

4 жыл бұрын

Doomsday clock is trash

Love this channel. I don’t know why I haven’t subscribed yet, but I subbed just now! Keep up the videos!

BUUUUUT wait... If he still possesses the memories and personality of Holland... he's still Holland!! It's just a memory switch-type deal.

@johnburt7935

4 жыл бұрын

Yes and no. It meant that he had no prospect of ever reclaiming his human form, a possibility which he'd clung to for years. Also, years later he visited Heaven and met Alec Holland...and Linda, too.

@TJ52359

3 жыл бұрын

it's something of a "Ship of Theseus" debate

Injustice or any Elseworlds shouldn't count, because they are not set in DC's main continuity and are meant to be shocking...

@MRDicristofaro

5 жыл бұрын

have to agree wIth you on this 100%

@anotherhumanbeing3300

4 жыл бұрын

They are dc plot twists no one saw coming it isn’t stated in the video that it had to be apart of the main continuity

Great vid. This is the only whatculture channel I sub to

Nicely done Ewan. Also, thanks for being the only other person except me that I’ve ever heard of being a fan of Morrison’s caped crusader! Lol

While Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing run does open with a great twist, you can’t really say it shocked anyone, simply because no one was paying attention. It was Moore that put the character on the map in the first place

Saludos desde México!!! You cover all my favorite subjects Comics, Movies and wrestling

I think they don´t really get what a plot twist is.

@TheRezro

5 жыл бұрын

Yeh.. some are quite debatable..

@chad6846

5 жыл бұрын

El Sesberto yea, I don’t know how joker shooting barbara is a plot twist

@micah4029

5 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing, and then I looked up the definition of a plot twist. Technically it includes any unexpected development in the story.

I am really happy to see you guys mentioned the Gilda Dent plot twist!!!!

I don't like the *"three jokers"* idea, to be honest. DC keeps going back to the Joker well and he feels less and less special every time as a result.

@iChimbo

5 жыл бұрын

I agree, its fucking retardad

@bravoalley228

5 жыл бұрын

Is it DC or the writers who are lazy by not using other characters?

@TheZephyrStorm

5 жыл бұрын

I love joker in the sense that he’s the antithesis to the detective aspect of Batman in that he’s unpredictable, brilliant, and impossible to deduce the next move of. But they really overuse him

@moyza_

4 жыл бұрын

DC even went along with the concept? Didn't heard about it for months, now.

@Metalbloodlord

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheZephyrStorm Doomsday clock is a fucking disgrace to Watchmen

I might never forgive DC for bringing back Barry the way that they did. Not because I dislike the character -- though I always thought that he was a little bland IMHO -- but because of the way his return pushed Wally to the side, eventually leading to him and his family being erased from existence in the aftermath of Flashpoint and The New 52. It took years or hard work and good writing to get fans to accept Wally as the new Flash. To earn his place as the Flash of the DCAU. And then, to just undo it all because someone at Time Warner was having a nostalgia boner for the Silver Age versions of the Flash and Green Lantern. I know that they have brought Wally back in Rebirth, but if you've read Heroes in Crisis, they're still crapping on him.

@DiamondDogApollo

5 жыл бұрын

Even worse is that when Wally returned in DC Rebirth, it was so good. I really thought they were going to fix the mess they made with New 52. Guess the jokes on me.

@micah4029

5 жыл бұрын

I agree, but at least it's confirmed Wally is the fastest of the two.

@RogueTwo

5 жыл бұрын

That's true, they haven't taken that away from him.

I love that little jam at the end of the video

Number 11: The Monarch is revealed to be Hawk. (Wait. So no one else knows about Armageddon: 2001?)

@TheRezro

5 жыл бұрын

I think everyone agree it was clusterfuck after fans guessed who it really was, as such it was hastily redone and make no sense..

@MrMcGee-yc1oq

5 жыл бұрын

What

@DiamondDogApollo

5 жыл бұрын

~quickly hiding stack of DC Annuals~ Not me!

And then at the end of Three Jokers it's revealed Batman knew who the real Joker was all along, rendering the entire thing pathetically stupid.

Ewan, given you like comics so much and seem to have quite the large knowledge pool about them, I got a question for you. What's your favorite line in comics in recent memory?

wow these are great plot twists need to read more dc!! :)

I still maintained Barry Allen flash shouldn’t have comeback why mostly because well Wally west was my flash for 23 years and to see him comeback really didn’t make any sense but that’s just my opinion, now as I mentioned before I know people like Barry Allen flash and that’s fine you’re entitled your own opinion in fact I am glad you guys have barry Allen flash back but for me personally I think barry Allen flash death was a good death and his legacy was already being carried over by his protege Wally west as the flash and people like me fell in loved with Wally west as the flash but that’s just my opinion.

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

I agree even though I like Barry on the flash most because the Flash TV show even though it's not good anymore very basic dying was they see a good day and he bet he passed on the Legacy 2 his Protege Wally West plus he was very popular fans so popular in fact when they supposedly got rid of in and replace them with Bart Allen fans were not happy about that so DC's answer was okay kill off Bart bring back Wally West his wife and his two kids DC bringing back was just like sort of van service or just kind of I guess the build hype it was a good moment to see him again but it felt unnecessary at the same time I felt they should wait until did you see that you started to bring him back have Wally be the one going into Flashpoint for some reason he messed up with the universe tries to fix it boom new teacher was born but for some reason he's no longer The Flash in this timeline and Barry Allen is The Flash in the continuity their problem solved and if you want to bring Wally West back just do what dc rebirth did

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

@@TevyaSmolka and when is Brian Michael Bendis leaving just Superman books because I feel like he's messing it up he's just like Tom King who's messing up Batman and other characters

@TevyaSmolka

5 жыл бұрын

@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 good question and honestly i have no idea

@samspurgeon4222

5 жыл бұрын

I've noticed in the current Justice League, Barry is basically acting like Wally did in the cartoon

@webs538

4 жыл бұрын

I liked Wally he was always the flash to me. I liked barry because of the nineties show but it was always Wally for me.

What about the murder of Sue Dibny? Or Kyle Rayner finding his girlfriend murdered an shoved into a refrigerator. Or maybe the murder of Damian Wayne by his cloned half brother? The death of Superman? Mongul destroying Coast City? The death of Batman in Final Crisis?Your list is solid. These are just honorable mentions.

#10. Not a plot twist #9. Not a plot twist #8. Not a plot twist #7. Yes! Finally, an actual plot twist! #6. Aaaaaaand we’re back to Not a plot twist. #5. That is a plot twist! Good work. #4. Another plot twist, keep it up! #3. Going strong with another actual plot twist #2. A great plot twist! Let’s hope this streak continues . . . #1. Ahhh, stuck the landing. Whatculture needs to learn the difference between a plot EVENT (which happens and has consequences) and a plot TWIST (a revelation that recontextualises previous plot events)

Plot twists? Firstly Injustice was a video game first, so the comic book was just a fleshing out of that story. Secondly how is it a plot twist when the whole story was advertised as being Superman goes bad after being tricked by Joker into killing Lois? Not really a plot twist when it is the main plot point that everyone knew was gonna happen?

What's going on in the thumbnail? I can see it's Terra, but thay doesn't seem like it fits with her big reveal.

@webs538

4 жыл бұрын

RatFacedJasper it’s from a newerish comic from a few years ago but I forgot the title

Unbelievable? Yes. Shocking? True. You want more? Hell, yeah!!!

Small critique. The little blue guardian wasn't there in person. That was a projection that hal used to recharge his ring.

I wish 3 Jokers would hurry up and come out. I really want to know how Geoff will execute that

Idk why I like the swamp thing twist .

When superman kills joker.... He should've became the superman that laughs

@MrMcGee-yc1oq

5 жыл бұрын

Eh, bad show

@vonnshlabbah

5 жыл бұрын

Ha

The 3 Joker thing wasn’t shocking to me, but more annoying because it adds more of a mystery to a annoyingly mysterious character.

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

Personally I feel they did that so Batman wouldn't find out who he actually is because that would take away the mystery of the character

@HELLO_KORO

5 жыл бұрын

And they still haven't continued it

I was reading Alan Moore’s Swamp thing at the sane time as I heard u say that twist 😂.

@garretthaslam3869

5 жыл бұрын

How do you read comics and watch videos at the same time?

@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL

5 жыл бұрын

Garrett Haslam it’s very hard I read about 2 pages in 5 minutes so I had a problem doing it I then switched the video off

Whoa...wait.. Are you sure Gilda Dent is the Holiday killer? I loved that it was ambigious.

@ryanmadej6694

5 жыл бұрын

Yes she was holiday killer

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

Bro it was sent to that throughout the story we just didn't see it coming because we didn't want to believe it

@DiamondDogApollo

5 жыл бұрын

She was at least ONE of the Holiday killers. It’s also possible Harvey was as well. Long Halloween is so good.

While not quite as great, the sequel to Long Hallowwen, Dark Victory, is also a great story that deserves a read.

Batman is one of the greatest detectives of all time and yet he didn't realize that the Joker was three different men as opposed to just one? How does that make any sense?

10 forgotten marvel heroes. Please

In #3 I saw Saxton and legit thought they were talking bout the tf2 comics

Where's the Watchmen reveal from the Rebirth issue?

I swear, they came up with a better ending to Watchmen in the movie. That dumb giant alien was such a fucking letdown.

I would love if they made season 2 of swamp thing. Too bad it will never happen.

I don't think the Injustice bit is a plot twist when it's basically the starting plot point. 🤔

ALAN MOORE NEVER CONFIRMED THE "BATMAN KILLS JOKER IN THE END" OF KILLING JOKE THING. This was Grant Morrison's interpretation - which I find very poor, actually.

Indeed.

Since when do the Guardians of the Universe have "tiny" blue heads...?

I don't Count "INJUSTICE as part of the DC Continuity, Else-world Story Holiday When is that 3- Joker book suppose to come out?

@CherryBomb_Games

3 жыл бұрын

Injustice isn't part of the main continuity. It's a "what-if" story in an alternate universe

Only missed 2 of the comics. But i agree , all are great storys with reading again. And some with excellent artwork. The joker. What a bad man. Must be one the top 5 earthbound villains in dc . If not the worst.. lex luthor, being 2nd. That a good idea. Top 10 Worst villains without super powers in D C. 😊

Bro three jokers I'm done

I don't see at all that Batman killed the Joker in "The Killing Joke". Indeed, the fact that the events of TKJ are in continuity, and yet the Joker was still alive afterwards, is kind of proof positive that Batman didn't kill him. Plus of course, how killing the Joker would not only go against everything we know about Batman, but would go against Commissioner Gordon's wishes. Basically, "Batman totally killed the Joker, dude" is a 1990s-grade fan theory that just doesn't hold up.

@TheRezro

5 жыл бұрын

It was Silver Age joker in TKJ. At the time Batman deal mostly with either Bronze Age or Dark Age Joker. Also whole point of Killing Joke was that he did break Batman. Something what his impostors couldn't do, even if they were designed for that by Court of Owl. That is the joke.

@kingbeauregard

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheRezro The Joker was trying to break Commissioner Gordon. He failed: Commissioner Gordon still insisted on having the Joker taken in alive. Hell, even the illustration in the comic shows Batman holding the Joker by the shoulders, not the neck. I don't understand this drive to turn Batman into a hypocrite who goes against the explicit wishes of one of his closest friends; lord knows it's not supported in TKJ itself or the comics that deal with its aftermath.

This 3 Joker BS needs to get retconned ASAP

I'm not sure if the killing joke is exactly a plot twist

@TheRezro

5 жыл бұрын

He included also Injustice so no, it is not..

@DiamondDogApollo

5 жыл бұрын

I would argue that yes, Killing Joke is a plot twist. Nobody was expecting Batgirl to be shot and brutalized, and for it to ultimately create lasting consequences. Remember this was the 80s, before characters got killed off or “forever changed”, then resurrected and changed back on a weekly basis. Injustice is not a plot twist. It was advertised on the premise of Evil Superman, this it did not “twist” the plot once he became so.

In what comic does Batman ask what the Joker's true name is?

i thought it will have the truth of krypton

there are local comic books stores still...??? thought it was all digital now...LOL

@Whizkidd2025

5 жыл бұрын

Lars loves Tech • I drove pass one over the weekend.

@larslovestech

5 жыл бұрын

@@Whizkidd2025 where...i actually only know of one here in nw london that's mega city comics in camden...there used to be so many but they all seem to have slowly gone away

@KipdoesStuff

5 жыл бұрын

I know of several within an hour of me, I'd never waste money on digital. If I can't hold it in my hand, its crap.

There are actually 6 Jokers; Romero Joker, Leto Joker, Phoenix Joker, Nicholson Joker, Hamil Joker and Ledger Joker.

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

You forgot about Gotham's Joker

@punkwrestle

5 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Valery That was a different Earth.

I really really want to see the Maker vs Infamous iron man but it’s a scam

@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Chen what do u mean?

@wednesday1336

5 жыл бұрын

You don’t really see The real Maker vs Iron doom in Infamous iron man

@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Chen oh don’t u, I’ve never read it.

@wednesday1336

5 жыл бұрын

But it’s still good to read because iron man with magic is cool and doom is badass

@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Chen is it actually a good story then?

I feel like terra working with deathstroke should be ranked higher only young justice ruined it

The only DC Comics stories that shocked the world were Death of Robin and Superman. That's it.

First Hyperion copies Superman then Superman copies Hyperion

Interesting list, but most of them aren't what I'd consider plot twists.

Batman, doesn't kill the Joker. There is no proof supporting that. He breaks character laughing, while Joker is having a more serious moment.

@woodgatejack

5 жыл бұрын

I think it's open to interpretation. If you treat it as canonical, then of course Batman _doesn't_ kill the Joker, but I think, if you regard it as a stand-alone story, the idea that Batman kills the Joker is perfectly acceptable. Joker was trying to prove than anyone can be driven over the edge by one bad day. We as the reader are lead to believe that his target is Jim Gordon. However, it turns out that, naturally, his focus was Batman all along. Having said that, it could be also interpreted that The Joker is _wrong_. Not _everyone_ can be brought down by one bad day, as we saw in the comic- Jim Gordon wasn't and the only reason the Joker was successful driving Batman over the edge was that he was close to the edge to begin with (he is a man who experienced childhood trauma, obsesses with the Joker, and dresses as a bat, after all) Throughout his comic writing Moore has examined and deconstructed the idea of the super-hero. In this very list he dismantled Swamp Thing and numerous super-hero tropes in _Watchmen_ and has gone on to do so in his more recent work, so the idea of him having Batman finally cave in to his id is totally in keeping for Moore.

Barry Allen should've stayed dead: his resurrection destroyed Wally West.

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

No it didn't destroy Wally West they just focused more on Barry when he came back instead of Wally and the stories that happen after reflect that it didn't destroy his character DC realize their mistake and bomb back in rebirth

@HELLO_KORO

5 жыл бұрын

Barry should've stayed dead bringing him back just had them make Wally sone background character they didn't know what to do

Hi everyone

What Teen Titans is that shown?

"There are three Jokers" should not be here. It belongs at the top of a list of "Stupidest, unneccessary plot twists in comics". It literally does not work, no matter the mental gymnastics its proponants insist upon to explain it.

I’m through the first 3 and none of them could even remotely be considered a plot twist. Dafuq is this list?

Wally West kills the heroes and frames Booster Gold and Harley Quinn

Did Batman really kill the Joker in The Killing Joke

@DrFoggyPants

5 жыл бұрын

Think that is up to the reader to believe whether or not he kills him. There's no definitive answer

@TheRezro

5 жыл бұрын

@@DrFoggyPants Though according to three Joker theory. It was Silver Age Joker, who wasn't mostly active anyway after impostors show up, and so technically he totally could be dead after that, as it doesn't change balance anyway. Also it is comic, death is always temporal state.

The whole world was shocked? People even in India were shocked? Even China?

@bhaskarjamwal1696

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah even in India.

@The_Str4nger

5 жыл бұрын

even Speedwagon?

!!! Wakanda Forever !!!

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

5 жыл бұрын

!!I never freeze!!

The three Joker idea is stupid though, Scott Snyder making him an immortal was stupid, the Killing Joke version is best.

He did not kill Joker at the end of Killing Joke! It was written as part of continuity. They specifically wrote ' The last as batgirl' story specifically to set this up. Just cause Grant 'hyperbole' Morrison says something doesn't make it true

becoming evil sounds like fun

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KRYPTON IS EARTH!!!!!!!

Literally just finished the Sexton Batman book lol. Unpopular opinion: it’s just okay.

I saw swamp thing pilot episode. It was terrible I can see why they canceled that shit.

DC > Marvel

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There is no indication at the end of The Killing Joke that Batman snaps and possibly kills The Joker. It's ludicrous to say so. Fail.

@TheZephyrStorm

5 жыл бұрын

It’s implied that the joker pushed Batman too far and got killed. At the last moment, the only laughter on the panel is coming from Batman’s direction while the joker’s is silent, which we know is never true when the joker is alive

ok but now with marvel

Batman Family has the World's Greatest Detective and 4 or 5 of the smartest characters in all of DC but they took 75 years to realize there are THREE JOKERS. Such shitty writting...

Doomsday clock sucks

Barry Allen was the WORST p[lot twist and totally needlessly done.

@RagnarokMic

5 жыл бұрын

Really did take away all that was special about the Flash mythos. Well, that ball started rolling when Didio made Johns force Wally out prematurely for Bart. Up to then, the Flash was the one super hero comic with a true sense of progression, always felt like it'd move to the next generation. Then Bart didn't work out because it really wasn't his time yet, and Wally had to come back, and then they brought Barry back, and then it was just every other super hero comic again. Died the best hero death in comic book history, one that actually mattered for decades, and it's all undone.

@ianmason6867

5 жыл бұрын

@@RagnarokMic Agreed!

If there are 3 Jokers, how many Harley Quinns are out there?

@TheRezro

5 жыл бұрын

Excluding paralel universes, most likely one. People forget that she is relatively new character introduced in DCAU, so her history is relatively straightforward.

Emerald Twilight was one of the lamest and disappointing storylines ever printed.

Terraaaaaaaa😍

Hello Ewan I am first. 😁

You may be Josh's son But you really don't do it for me Ewan

Doomsday clock is trash

Ugh... most of these aren't shocking, they are just poor writing.

DC rebirth and Doomsday clock are awful and no one should ever read it