Regarding dreamhalls deck: it is very easy to win once dreamhalls is down. Ive tested the deck vs ai many times and maybe bricked once. All the draw spells makes bricking unlikely
@oldmagemtg70083 күн бұрын
What site do you happen to use to play against an ai? I would love to give that a try.
@nathanaelswayne80243 күн бұрын
@@oldmagemtg7008 mtgforge. You cant play vs real people, but testing vs a decent ai is good when investigating a deck. MTGphil has a youtube channel where he finishes every deck tech by playing some silly games vs ai!
@oldmagemtg70082 күн бұрын
Very cool. I usually just use the playtest function on Moxfield to see how my hand evolves over several turns, but it would be nice to play against an AI. Even if it's subpar.
@nathanaelswayne8024Күн бұрын
@@oldmagemtg7008 It is nice. Keep up the videos! I love the long vids and I love the look into classic old cards and decks. MTG has such a neat history that gets forgotten with all the new shiny toys.
@nathanaelswayne8024Күн бұрын
@@oldmagemtg7008 It is nice. Keep up the videos! I love the long vids and I love the look into classic old cards and decks. MTG has such a neat history that gets forgotten with all the new shiny toys.
@nathanaelswayne80244 күн бұрын
Love these looks into classic decks and premodern! There are so many fascinating decks from magics history that get completely forgotten about
@oldmagemtg70084 күн бұрын
@nathanaelswayne8024 good to hear that you're diggin' it.
@average_melon10 күн бұрын
Hey folks, I've been following the podcast for about a month now and wanted to drop by and say thank you - keep up the great work!
@oldmagemtg70089 күн бұрын
Appreciate it! Always nice to hear that someone is listening and enjoying. You are an above average melon in my book.
@lucamacchi832911 күн бұрын
Just wated to add in regards to hakim, you can use its ability multiple time in response to itself, 'cause it checks if there are no enchantments on him only at the activation of the ability, thus, if you have 5 blue mana (and supposedly you do cause you just casted him), you can activate the ability twice and voltron up
@oldmagemtg700811 күн бұрын
Dang, excellent point that I did not consider.
@furani856011 күн бұрын
I'm surprised by the fact that there are no drain life effects to target the Phyrexian Negator after you donated it. But that is most likely a bit too janky. Also, I find it funny that Donate was deemed such a problematic card. It was later reprinted (Harmles Offering) for even less mana.
@oldmagemtg700811 күн бұрын
Haha. Maybe Maro forgot he wrote that article. Or someone else snuck it in.
@furani856010 күн бұрын
@oldmagemtg7008 I can see that happening! Or just a symptom of changing times.
@furani856015 күн бұрын
For the Adeckadeck, would Armadillo Cloak be a consideration? It sounds like a decent effect to put on the commander.
@oldmagemtg700815 күн бұрын
Sounds like a very good call. The trample would help me push that commander damage through.
@islandg024 күн бұрын
Kobolds of Kher Keep are a 0 cost red creature from legends might be the only 0 cost colored creature in old frame and sphere of law would totally negate the bombardment damage.
@oldmagemtg700824 күн бұрын
Excellent. Shameful that we forgot the Kobolds! And I wasn't familiar with Sphere of Law, but that exactly the type of effect we were searching for.
@marcrabazagairi265024 күн бұрын
In Which website are u looking at these decks?
@oldmagemtg700824 күн бұрын
Moxfield. I've been meaning to make our Moxfield public so people could browse the deck we discuss. I just made it visible (It think. Hopefully it works). www.moxfield.com/users/OldMenMagic
@marcrabazagairi265024 күн бұрын
So the squirrel opposition deck from 2002 that did good results…do you think would be competitive nowadays in premdoern format?
@oldmagemtg700824 күн бұрын
My guess is not great against the most competitive decks. Not enough firepower or control to beat either the best aggro or control decks. But iooks like a solid midrange kitchen table deck to me. Nice mix of removal, counter magic and disruption to cause some issues for an opponent. I'd probably switch up the creature package. Maybe add Deranged Hermit to work with Opposition.
@kennethbrisley192724 күн бұрын
Fruity Pebbles
@LowerDerek25 күн бұрын
Old Men Magic!!!!
@spunkytrunks29 күн бұрын
Is that riiight?
@oldmagemtg700828 күн бұрын
My actual weakness is probably depression
@oldbordergeekАй бұрын
new post for FUTURE mtg players from 2100. see? we played old stuff too. its okay.
@oldmagemtg700829 күн бұрын
I expect the pod to still be going strong in 2100
@anorouchАй бұрын
Oldest Post!
@grilledcheese2170Ай бұрын
too bad land destruction is frowned upon in commander
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
I've always enjoyed it. 60 card formats still embrace it, thankfully.
@dgh329Ай бұрын
Try it with Cataclysmic Gearhulk
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
I dig it
@cax1175Ай бұрын
The firebombers say hi
@nonlamesniperАй бұрын
Read the Time Spiral novel and You will know why.
@anorouchАй бұрын
Keldon marauders is c tier
@oldbordergeekАй бұрын
dont worry old mage well reanimate you for a game
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
🙏👼
@nathanaelswayne8024Ай бұрын
One of my favorite old flyers is seredib efreet, 3/4 flyer for 3
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
A card I didn't give proper respect back in the day.
@nathanaelswayne8024Ай бұрын
Holy crap I just discovered this channel. Ill be binging a lot of these long detailed vids in the coming days
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
Thanks for joining. Glad to have you and hope you find some things you like!
@nathanaelswayne8024Ай бұрын
Awesome vid. Love the in depth analysis! Gotta check out your other vids
@furani8560Ай бұрын
While not a common, I really enjoy the basic forests from Mirrage. I currently use V.1 in my Legacy Lands deck. For the Atog commander deck, I would personally recommend an Oversold Cemetery.
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
Mirage forests are my preferred lands in my Premodern green decks. And good call on Oversold Cemetery. That was approaching $20 when I first learned about it and I just saw that it's down to about $2. Definitely picking up one or two.
@Return2KayfabeАй бұрын
he’s great, i play him in premodern
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
Link to the full episode here --> kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmZplZprfMjQgcY.html
@lloydlineske2642Ай бұрын
Childrens card game.... What a clown.
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
Link to the full episode here --> kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmZplZprfMjQgcY.html
@zappadali8696Ай бұрын
Elves can be obnoxious in a big game. This would be a satisfying early drop.
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
Link to the full episode here --> kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmZplZprfMjQgcY.html
@MaddoxBugbee-sf7ybАй бұрын
I hate this card
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
Haha. Tough but fair.
@thejutanАй бұрын
Based take
@AiviymatocАй бұрын
consistency is the most fun part of edh. fuck the gatekeepers.
@owenschmidt5961Ай бұрын
Only card that is against the idea. Is mana crypt.
@colinderue8095Ай бұрын
“Have you ever played with a Flametongue Kavu?”….”No…”….”Neither have I!”……… I die.
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
In our defense, it wasn't printed when we did all of our childhood playing. I have since cast many Flametongue Kavus. Feels goodman.
@Aimless_cursed_scrollingАй бұрын
Still finishing the episode, but something of note is that Fluctuator was actually banned in Urza block constructed.
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@oldmagemtg7008Ай бұрын
Link to the full episode here --> kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmZplZprfMjQgcY.html
@ironchef3500Ай бұрын
Three shits for sure!
@Aimless_cursed_scrolling2 ай бұрын
Love Shivan Wurm 🤙
@oldmagemtg70082 ай бұрын
One of my current favorites
@lieutenantdelta87992 ай бұрын
Karma + Urborg create a board for you in Darien
@oldmagemtg70082 ай бұрын
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth? I'm just seeing this for the first time after reading your comment. I dig it.
@lieutenantdelta87992 ай бұрын
Yup! Your upkeep damage turns into guys. Their upkeep damage is just damage
@grantharriman2842 ай бұрын
If thespian stage and vampire hexmage didn't exist, this would be the epitome of a Timmy card. With those cards existing, this is a serious threat.
@oldmagemtg70082 ай бұрын
Learned about those two soon after I saw Dark Depths for the first time. Truly absurd combos.
@grantharriman2842 ай бұрын
@@oldmagemtg7008 In the formats where they are legal they are far from the most ridiculous things happening, so it doesn't even faze me anymore.
@oldmagemtg70082 ай бұрын
Link to the full episode here --> kzread.info/dash/bejne/jK6OrpluoZramdI.html
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Regarding dreamhalls deck: it is very easy to win once dreamhalls is down. Ive tested the deck vs ai many times and maybe bricked once. All the draw spells makes bricking unlikely
What site do you happen to use to play against an ai? I would love to give that a try.
@@oldmagemtg7008 mtgforge. You cant play vs real people, but testing vs a decent ai is good when investigating a deck. MTGphil has a youtube channel where he finishes every deck tech by playing some silly games vs ai!
Very cool. I usually just use the playtest function on Moxfield to see how my hand evolves over several turns, but it would be nice to play against an AI. Even if it's subpar.
@@oldmagemtg7008 It is nice. Keep up the videos! I love the long vids and I love the look into classic old cards and decks. MTG has such a neat history that gets forgotten with all the new shiny toys.
@@oldmagemtg7008 It is nice. Keep up the videos! I love the long vids and I love the look into classic old cards and decks. MTG has such a neat history that gets forgotten with all the new shiny toys.
Love these looks into classic decks and premodern! There are so many fascinating decks from magics history that get completely forgotten about
@nathanaelswayne8024 good to hear that you're diggin' it.
Hey folks, I've been following the podcast for about a month now and wanted to drop by and say thank you - keep up the great work!
Appreciate it! Always nice to hear that someone is listening and enjoying. You are an above average melon in my book.
Just wated to add in regards to hakim, you can use its ability multiple time in response to itself, 'cause it checks if there are no enchantments on him only at the activation of the ability, thus, if you have 5 blue mana (and supposedly you do cause you just casted him), you can activate the ability twice and voltron up
Dang, excellent point that I did not consider.
I'm surprised by the fact that there are no drain life effects to target the Phyrexian Negator after you donated it. But that is most likely a bit too janky. Also, I find it funny that Donate was deemed such a problematic card. It was later reprinted (Harmles Offering) for even less mana.
Haha. Maybe Maro forgot he wrote that article. Or someone else snuck it in.
@oldmagemtg7008 I can see that happening! Or just a symptom of changing times.
For the Adeckadeck, would Armadillo Cloak be a consideration? It sounds like a decent effect to put on the commander.
Sounds like a very good call. The trample would help me push that commander damage through.
Kobolds of Kher Keep are a 0 cost red creature from legends might be the only 0 cost colored creature in old frame and sphere of law would totally negate the bombardment damage.
Excellent. Shameful that we forgot the Kobolds! And I wasn't familiar with Sphere of Law, but that exactly the type of effect we were searching for.
In Which website are u looking at these decks?
Moxfield. I've been meaning to make our Moxfield public so people could browse the deck we discuss. I just made it visible (It think. Hopefully it works). www.moxfield.com/users/OldMenMagic
So the squirrel opposition deck from 2002 that did good results…do you think would be competitive nowadays in premdoern format?
My guess is not great against the most competitive decks. Not enough firepower or control to beat either the best aggro or control decks. But iooks like a solid midrange kitchen table deck to me. Nice mix of removal, counter magic and disruption to cause some issues for an opponent. I'd probably switch up the creature package. Maybe add Deranged Hermit to work with Opposition.
Fruity Pebbles
Old Men Magic!!!!
Is that riiight?
My actual weakness is probably depression
new post for FUTURE mtg players from 2100. see? we played old stuff too. its okay.
I expect the pod to still be going strong in 2100
Oldest Post!
too bad land destruction is frowned upon in commander
I've always enjoyed it. 60 card formats still embrace it, thankfully.
Try it with Cataclysmic Gearhulk
I dig it
The firebombers say hi
Read the Time Spiral novel and You will know why.
Keldon marauders is c tier
dont worry old mage well reanimate you for a game
🙏👼
One of my favorite old flyers is seredib efreet, 3/4 flyer for 3
A card I didn't give proper respect back in the day.
Holy crap I just discovered this channel. Ill be binging a lot of these long detailed vids in the coming days
Thanks for joining. Glad to have you and hope you find some things you like!
Awesome vid. Love the in depth analysis! Gotta check out your other vids
While not a common, I really enjoy the basic forests from Mirrage. I currently use V.1 in my Legacy Lands deck. For the Atog commander deck, I would personally recommend an Oversold Cemetery.
Mirage forests are my preferred lands in my Premodern green decks. And good call on Oversold Cemetery. That was approaching $20 when I first learned about it and I just saw that it's down to about $2. Definitely picking up one or two.
he’s great, i play him in premodern
Link to the full episode here --> kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmZplZprfMjQgcY.html
Childrens card game.... What a clown.
Link to the full episode here --> kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmZplZprfMjQgcY.html
Elves can be obnoxious in a big game. This would be a satisfying early drop.
Link to the full episode here --> kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmZplZprfMjQgcY.html
I hate this card
Haha. Tough but fair.
Based take
consistency is the most fun part of edh. fuck the gatekeepers.
Only card that is against the idea. Is mana crypt.
“Have you ever played with a Flametongue Kavu?”….”No…”….”Neither have I!”……… I die.
In our defense, it wasn't printed when we did all of our childhood playing. I have since cast many Flametongue Kavus. Feels goodman.
Still finishing the episode, but something of note is that Fluctuator was actually banned in Urza block constructed.
Thanks for the info.
Link to the full episode here --> kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmZplZprfMjQgcY.html
Three shits for sure!
Love Shivan Wurm 🤙
One of my current favorites
Karma + Urborg create a board for you in Darien
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth? I'm just seeing this for the first time after reading your comment. I dig it.
Yup! Your upkeep damage turns into guys. Their upkeep damage is just damage
If thespian stage and vampire hexmage didn't exist, this would be the epitome of a Timmy card. With those cards existing, this is a serious threat.
Learned about those two soon after I saw Dark Depths for the first time. Truly absurd combos.
@@oldmagemtg7008 In the formats where they are legal they are far from the most ridiculous things happening, so it doesn't even faze me anymore.
Link to the full episode here --> kzread.info/dash/bejne/jK6OrpluoZramdI.html