Helpful (but sassy) Kpop infodumps, analyses, and recommendations
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ATTENTION FOREVERS VOTE for EVERGLOW on idol champ ZOMBIE deserves a win 🏆 voting will end soon so HURRY UP
No this is not the end of everglow they're just beginning to show their colors though i would say that it will take 1 w vomebacks to do it Also their new album is a bop ZOMBIE proves thatvthey can pull off any concept gheir vocals are incredible and if u say that views are low or something like that than take a look at other gg all of their views count are not wht they used to be Most big companies uses fake views vheat on award shows and album Most kpop fans are just after hype whoever's famous they will follow them song , lyrics , production and vocals nothing matters to them they are just after hype Everglow's song are always unique don't run after those trendy repeated song that are just made to be liked by west
Also one of the point lyrics in the song is ''never dying'' aka they aren't going anywhere
Everglow is not going anywhere, they literally just had a very succesfull tour around the world. Something that many groups can't do. there songs may not be as popular as they used to but their fans are very loyal. Also the song is slowly doing better and better so pretty sure they aren't disbanding any time soon. If the company wanted to disband them they would've already done that
12:58 "they didn't even bother with the choreography" ...no, All Night Ive ver dance performance video does exists
Nothing is going to happen to everglow. This is a new era for them.
they made ‘either way’ for the arts not the charts⭐️but i love it sooo much and mv is ethereal🥹
I say Yes
This is one of their best song title tracks and would have made them break in Korea if they didn’t have that long break after Pirate
I don't know much about Everglow, but as someone who to this day considers Dun Dun and La Di Da among my favorite kpop songs of all time, I'd really hope that they'd stay around for as long as possible hoping they'd come out with something to that level again. And ironically, I think their B-side Colourz unironically has the potential to fill that role! And I say this as someone who really likes Zombie too
I never got into Everglow since I only joined the K-pop fandom at the end of 2021 but I did come across their music often. Just like most fans who just got into K-pop, I was into BlackPink and then they didn't have a comeback till 2022, with Pink Venom. I was a baby stan when Pink Venom dropped so I didn't even know there are so many groups with songs I like. Now I'm seeing tons of groups with great music and one of them is Everglow. They are such a talented group and all their songs are soo good. My faves are La Di Da followed by First and now Zombie is also up there. If their company gave them comebacks more often they'd be more recognised by newer K-pop fans leading to more money for the company so it's not like they lose anything by giving them comebacks. Everglow is such a good group and if this is their disbandment song, it would be devastating for everyone. I really hope they'll continue making music with this concept because it's soo good!
Everglow was the first group I stanned, followed immediately by Blackpink! It took a while, but I eventually played out both of their catalogs and it forced me to broaden my horizons. Both groups are so talented and yet so underutilized. I am so, so grateful to hear that BP will be continuing on as OT4, even if it means that their comebacks are even more spread apart. At this point, I'm used to only one release a year from them anyway.
this is not their disbandment song tho. The company was planning to leave them in de basement until their contract ended but since fans made a lot of noise saying that everglow needs to comeback they released SLAY. After slay they went on a world tour and that was very succesfull. It's most likely that yuehua is going to keep Everglow alive now because they know they can get money of them by sending them on tour. Zombie is very different from what they did before but only because it's a new era an are willing to try different stuff now.
@@Bibble_.__.._958 If that's the case, I'm gonna have to learn all their names coz I've always wanted to stan like hundreds of groups but never act on it. Everglow is one of them. But I think I'll start later coz I just brushed my teeth lol
pls don’t jump me but I really do not think that HEYA should be on the S tier list. I think it should be on the A tier instead. I mean I have nothing to say about the MV itself like it’s a banger. But like the song…I honestly think that’s the bridge could have been better and like I needed to listen top it for sometime before it could stick to me…😂
I LOVEE Pirate and SLAY, but both were done dirty chart wise.
I could see zombie as their last realese, or last promoted one before like a fairwell single like Weki Meki.
i absolutely love this song & concept !! I dont want them to be gone, but i'd understand bc their not getting paid.
After watching this video, I can 100% confirm they’re not going to disband anytime soon. This is just a new era they are heading to and with the ending of the music video, I think we can already tell that it means there’s a part 2 to what happens next as this is something Everglow has never done before and it’s dark like Dreamcatcher. This is also something Pink fantasy and Nature has done. They went from doing cute concepts to going completely dark. The signs we would know it’s a disbandment is if it’s a song like Vroom vroom that’s how we would know they will be disbanding. The chances of them disbanding is very unlikely as they aren’t being overworked and just went on a 2 year hiatus.
That's also what I think, that they are rebranding and it begun with slay cause there wasn't "everglow" at the beginning. Also people saying that promotion is bad, it's not perfect but we get a lot of dance challenges, they perform everyday, chants are always loud, there are many positive korean comments which was rare before also they performed bside. Sihyeon is debuting as actress which also will give them new fans. Clever thing from company would be giving them either one digital song during summer with summer vibe or japan/chinese/english debut and then at the end or beginning of the year next album
@@vixen8990The promo before the comeback was very bad but ever since zombie was released the promo has never been better. We indeed get so much content right now and Zombie is also starting to do better and better. Pretty sure that after their succesfull tour Everglow isn't going anywhere
Ugh!! This hurts bc I absolutely love Everglow and their discography has no skips imo…but I can’t ignore the agony that comes with thoughts of them. I wish they had a better run and better treatment. But, I do hope each member finds their peace and happiness in the end either they do disband after this comeback or in a few more. They deserve it
I don’t like the song at all. But I LOVE Everglow. It’s kinda sad they’re falling off 😢
Same
How do you know they haven't been paid. (I dont want to sound rude, but im genuinely curious)
I scoured Google to the best of my ability for any shred of evidence that they have ever received a paycheck and found absolutely nothing.
@overthinkingkpop omg..... WAIT HOW DO WE EVEN KNOW IF OTHER GROUPS HAVE BEEN PAID OMG
Hate to break it to you, but the vast majority of kpop idols never get paid.
@overthinkingkpop That's crazy af
@@eunchaessmilypotato Go check out this video of mine if you haven't already: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nJymzZOJc8XRftI.htmlsi=tZSnhxCO_ICEEf6R
The condemnation and attack on China in your video is totally unnecessary. It just shows your arrogance and prejudice as an American. If you get rid of your prejudice and understand more comprehensively, you will not make such remarks. We are angry because the art director of HEYA said on social media that he is studying traditional Chinese aesthetics, but Starship has been claiming that this is "Korean art". And although Korea and China have high similarities in culture, they can be easily distinguished. China was also invaded and colonized by Japan and Germany for many years, and we have not seen China being accused of stealing the traditional culture of Japan and Germany.
I already addressed this elsewhere in the comments.
Ok but the music video is so good?!?!?!?! Like deff one of my favs of the year (regarding the actual topic i hope they dont but id want them to be free of that damn company 😭🤧)
the music video is cheap and the song is very forgetful
@@tylerjames8502 ok🤓
@@tylerjames8502 listen to zombie on it's live i think that's what the song misses
I’m torn, because I do really love Everglow as a group, and this is my favorite title track since La Di Da. (I did love Pirate and Slay, but La Di Da was just so iconic! My love for it could also stem from being a manga and comic nerd, but I digress.) However, similar to Weki Meki, the girls don’t deserve being locked in a dungeon for nearly year long periods, to only get to release a single. Then similar to CLC, they most likely aren’t ever going to receive a light stick; which to me, is a symbol of a company willing to put money and time into you. I’m torn through, because I adore them as a group, and I know the girls love being together. But, I feel like they aren’t ever going to achieve true success with Yueha, and could pull an Iz*one; meaning they all could find immense success and happiness redebuting.
I think it's highly likely that we'll see Mia pursue a solo career post-EVERGLOW at the very least, but overall, I think of them as such a missed opportunity. They had so much potential and Yue Hua squandered it. They deserve better and I wish them so much future success.
To me there are only 3 Elite Level Top Teir girl groups on Earth: Blackpink, BabyMonster, & Everglow. If Everglow was with a company who knew how to market them (like YG) they would be as successful as Blackpink (please sign with YG or Blissoo). This comeback they gave us a masterpiece that I think is not just song of the summer, song of the year, song of the decade, or song of the century, it is song of a lifetime. Not talking about Zombie, I am talking about the B side "Colourz".
YG cant even manage BP properly.
@@celestialmaiden4606 Just because they are not managed how you think they should be managed does not mean they are not being managed properly. The proof is in the pudding and they have the best and most recognizeable pudding on Earth = YG knows how to market.
This notion of "elite level top tier gg" is so stupid. I hate to break it to you, but BP is on the brink of another long hiatus, BM is... god knows what YG is doing at this point but that company sucks at managing anyone. Ever Glow lost alot of their hype and cannot keep up with the saturated market; they were only able to sell 10k albums for Zombie. But in the delusional minds of kpop fans who engage in nonsensical fan wars over who's the ELITE girl group, I guess there's no logic to ya.
@@FlopCoutureI agree with you except the part of BabyMonster. I think he has been managing them pretty well, and doing better. Could be better, but at least better compared to the past years how he managed his groups.
@@AimingLV I think he could be doing better. They definitely deserve more music show appearances and one of the BM girls mentioned how YG doesn't allow them to film tiktoks with other idols - which is crucial for dance challenges and marketing. Personally, I think he's trying to make them follow in the same path as BP and make them feel "exclusive". But I don't think that's gonna work in this market today, with power houses like Illit, LSF, and NewJeans. Take for example, Nmixx is barely surviving despite being from a top 4 company. It's definitely possible that BM will not succeed with the BP forumla.
As a chinese person, it's really sad to see the discourse around the Heya music video. It is common for neighbors to share cultures around the world. But, a lot of the stuff in the mv had things that were undoubtedly Chinese. Plus, it is not our fault that our government is shitty. Separate the state from its people. We can't do anything about the fact that we "fucking invaded them 19 times." that happened hundreds of years ago. Chinese culture is already being labeled as Korean and japanes in Western media and it's sad to see ive do it too. It's not the myth that's the problem. The tiger sun myth is Korean and nobody is debating that. It's the items being shown in the video that's the problem. Kpop is really popular in China, and the Chinese voices aren't being heard.
I know I should touch some grass, but this topic is sensitive to us since IVE is really popular in China
Imho Off The Record is pretty underrated. It has Cupid kinda vibe, with fresh, romantic, and innocent incorporated at the same time.
Also if this is you proposing that this is everglow disbanding we will be fighting. I’m not losing everglow this early
Just reporting what I saw! EVERGLOW holds a very special place in my heart 💖
@@overthinkingkpop we’re about to lose Monsta X and maybe a few other Starship groups and idols, I’m not letting everglow disband, it would be my thirteenth reason 😭 (also I’m perfectly fine I would never do the thing, I’m just being over dramatic)
Ready to listen podcast style and then watch it eventually
How are yo everywhere!? This is like at least the fifth channel I found your comment.
your opinion on the HEYA stealing Chinese culture is INSANE lmaoooooo. it's frigging true the Chinese netizen needs to stfu atp. we love u girl ❤❤❤
It was a little edgy, but, like, China is the intellectual property theft capital of the world. It's kind of rich for them to be so up in arms that a group took inspiration from one of their fables.
this is just my opinion but honestly IVE has such a solid, no-skip discography. literally every song is perfect and on repeat constantly. my custom youtube mixes are just 95% IVE and 5% whatever else i've been listening to those days 😭 also the either way thing... ME TOO IT'S SO NOT CASH MONEY 😭 i cannot listen to either way without turning my brain off because i will start crying otherwise.
13:40 this is so fucking true, they invade everything across asia (up until now like how they are messing around at west philippines sea). If they don't want their culture sweeping around the world they shouldve not done it earlier.
Idk if the Metallica thumbnail is intentional, but if it is, I got a video idea. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eYdrpNayeLrMlJc.htmlsi=5mgn5kYRuXli6fI0 basically a BLACKPINK music video that looks kinda like an Iron Maiden music video
Hahaha, it definitely was a Metallica reference! Thanks for catching it!
@@overthinkingkpop Nice. But yeah, I think that's a good video idea
Ngl I'll be offended if Ive doesn't get a big award for their songs or album this year they literally dropped An album with total no skip songs Double title tracks that are top 😊
HYPNOSIS IS THE BEST FINALLY SOME APPRECIATION
NAURRRR I love OTR SOOOO MUCH it's their best song for me 😭
i know that all has different taste but after like is my top 2 song in ive discography. i never skip any of their song(except all night)
So surely you can understand why I felt like I had to whisper my disagreement 😂
@@overthinkingkpop yes right
coming from a chinese netizen we’re not trying to be imperialist, but our netizens have been especially sensitive towards cultural theft since the dior scandal. Personally I think Heya shouldn’t be flamed like that when you compare it to other more offensive things like wearing Hanfu instead of Hanbok in K-dramas (and calling it hanbok when it’s actually very obvious) and the ive HK concert on 7.7 (sorry but just like how you don’t have concerts in Poland on 9.1, you aren’t supposed to get people all excited and crazy on a day for mourning)
coming from a chinese netizen we’re not trying to be imperialist, but our netizens have been especially sensitive towards cultural theft since the dior scandal. Personally I think Heya shouldn’t be flamed like that when you compare it to other more offensive things like wearing Hanfu instead of Hanbok in K-dramas (and calling it hanbok when it’s actually very obvious) and the ive HK concert on 7.7 (sorry but just like how you don’t have concerts in Poland on 9.1, you aren’t supposed to get people all excited and crazy on a day for mourning)
Thanks for sharing your perspective. With regards to IVE's Polish concert date, it's difficult for me to relate because that isn't even remotely a cultural norm in America, so I'm sympathetic to how that might have happened because I would probably have made the same mistake. 😅 One of my favorite festivals back in Florida, Sunset Music Festival, is specifically held over Memorial Day weekend every year, which is theoretically supposed to be a "day of mourning," too. Even 9/11 is fair game these days. The only holiday that is off-limits for unrelated events is Christmas, really.
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God forbid anyone on the internet have opinions that don't directly align with yours!
@@overthinkingkpop its not meant to be taken this seriously
I could say the same to you
Finally someone hates 'Either Way' THEY ARE CHOCKING
It's NOT that I hate the song... it's that I hate how the song makes me feel.
@@overthinkingkpop ohhh... I thought you hate it like me. Sorry😓
@@ylgn9561I hate u
The evil ive and good ive battle made me remind of good precures and evil precures!
My faves of ive songs is eleven, i am, and baddie and for bsides is my satisfaction, lips, heroine, cherish
The editinggggg
I think it came out all right for having been slapped together while I was on vacation with the worst internet imaginable 😅
I love tier list videos! I mean, now I won't be able to unhear that "r*pe" misheard lyric in I WANT, but overall great video 😂 As for future tier list videos, I'd love to see you do one for Purple Kiss as they have quite the extensive discography. Zombie is basically their perfect kpop song like LOVE DIVE from IVE. And PK also have a bunch of other underrated tracks like Sweet Juice, Love is Dead, Nerdy, and agit.
I've also been dying for Purple Kiss to blow up and go viral, but they just haven't unfortunately.
Purple Kiss is a great suggestion for a future ranking! I, too, enjoy them a great deal and consider them vastly underrated. I already have a different script written but waiting to be produced that contrasts Goeun's and Swan's vocal technique, so they'll definitely get some airtime on this channel one of these days! I will say, having now done a numerical discography ranking and a Tier List, I think I prefer this format, so I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it as well! I have most of an episode ranking LE SSERAFIM's comebacks written already, so they'll probably be next up to the plate, but who knows.
Oh wow, looking forward to it then! That Goeun/Swan video sounds interesting!
GIRL YOU DID NOT CALLED OFF THE RECORD FORGETTABLE
I said what I said. It's not bad, but it's not great and I've never once had it stuck in my head.
@@overthinkingkpop it hurt like You called love dive mid
@@LALISA.M7896 Hey, we don't all have to agree here. Me having different taste in music isn't a personal attack on you. I will never please everyone so I'd rather just stick to being honest.
either way is my favorite ive song of all time 🥲(no one will ever be able to beat it in my heart)
I can respect that! It genuinely is a beautiful song. I just don't like sad songs, as a rule