The one-arm thing is to emulate hip hop dance crews, especially from Los Angeles, who often do that to cool down while dancing (they wear heavy, baggy clothes to exaggerate the groove) …or to show off their biceps. ;)

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

TIL! It still looks dumb as hell lmao

@Currentlyprocrastinating37

2 ай бұрын

@@overthinkingkpop I agree, it looks stupid and uncomfortable. Just take it off or leave it on!

I can just see my clumsy ass trying the one arm out thing and getting caught on a doorknob or something stupid like that. xD

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

The degree to which I would get trapped in every car door I attempted to operate 😂

@SoraiaLMotta

2 ай бұрын

I have seen dancers doing the half and half to not have to leave their hoodies in unknow location in a heavy aircon place. But me too am in favor of practical clothes.

And for some reason, I’ve always NEVER found crazy K-pop fashion”weird” or anything. To me, it’s all fun. (But I kinda get annoyed and have to do my breathing exercises whenever someone describes it as stupid, or nonsensical or ugly).Especially half pant half skirt, half shorts half pant, ruffled shorts, over-ripped pants, one arm in sweater, or anything else. I love it cos I know how weird I am. And I can always count on K-pop fashion to bring all the weird looks out there.

I can never get over just how little clothes they give Kpop girls, you never realise how small the clothes are until you see it in person because on screen it looks okay, but in person wow I havent even seen Ariana Grande, Taylor Swift, megan stallion, Beyonce etc wear clothes so little to perform on stage with, and Ive seen them all live

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

We'll talk about the secret behind how Kpop idols get away with wearing some of the shortest skirts imaginable without encountering wardrobe malfunctions in part 2, dropping this Friday! 💖

It would be cool to talk about how stylists really use cloths and makeup to brand girls as certain concepts like Yuqi before and after Tomboy

2:30 gen 2 was full of matching fits but as the gens went on and more western eyes were on kpop they sought to individualise idols within groups

I’ve been a Stan for about 2 years now. I think I started stanning BTS first in April 2022 and the rest happened. I just love the way you interpret the crazy stuff that goes on in K-pop and the lovely mess that we all love. If only people like my supposed brother would stop taking them as jokes and respect them or just leave them alone if they don’t like K-pop.

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

It blows my mind that anyone could possibly regard idols as jokes because I think they make Western performers, by and large, look like a bunch of low-effort casuals. 😂

i add one more common trend in kpop styling, over sexualization of minors

@ashurasama

2 ай бұрын

In Asia miniskirts are so normalized for everyday wear, that it's not seen as sexual as long as you're not seeing the girl's ass. Keep that in mind the next time you think a skirt is too short for the idol's age. YOU are the one from a culture that sexualizes every bit of exposed skin, not them.

I hate to admit it after you bashed it so hard, but I think the half on sweatshirt thing is kinda fun. I think my initial reaction was like yours: that's stupid and impractical. But after some time, it grew on me, there's something neat about the asymmetry. It is mostly just visually interesting though, I'm not sure about the practicality. Also i had never thought about the syllable emphasis on Solar's name. I think I've been pronouncing it mostly correct but it never occurred to me. Thanks for the pro tip.

My favorite video so far! I love the research put into this, and as someone who doesn’t pay much attention to fashion/style in kpop, it’s so interesting to see all of the patterns between stylings in groups- especially the one-armed hoodies, now I won’t be able to unsee it 😭

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! This series represents a convergence of interests for me, as I am also more than a little obsessed with fashion and personal style. I took over 100 unique "Business Goth" OOTD pics for Facebook in the past year and I genuinely waffled back and forth between whether to start a Ktube channel or an OOTD channel for KZread. I still may very well launch the latter someday down the line. I had to split this particular topic into a series because I simply had too many ideas to fit in a single video. I'm already going to have to make some choices about what gets included in episode #3 and what has to get pushed out to episode #4. 😭

@soralution

2 ай бұрын

Ooo I really would love to see you try out a kinda fashion channel to beat out fashion theory some day lol :)))

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

If I do, you can definitely be sure I'll post about it to let everyone know! I've recorded some video for it but haven't done any editing yet. One part trying to get this channel off the ground properly, one part being a little shy about potentially opening myself up to a lot of negative personal attacks on my appearance. It might happen anyway, though. It has been a big confidence booster to see this channel get off to a good start.

5:36 Actually, it is comfortable. As a dancer, I usually do that while practicing. In my opinion, it looks pretty cool as a style element🙃

NO the arm out of the sweater is demonic and SKZ are my fave group but they're the worst perpetrators of this it makes me so mad lmaoo

QUEEN RETURNED TO GIVE ANOTHER SLAY OF A VIDEO ✨✨

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

Thank you thank you! 😘

while frowned upon as a long time fan I know that kpop girls with large chests were often made to wear more low cut necklines and would go viral and get popular for having larger chests, it's less that smaller is preferred and more that its harder to find natural big chests in Korea like here in the west or Africa so small is just the norm but when a girl does have one they don't hide how much they want to see it unfortunately, men will be men.

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

Given that plastic surgery is the official national pastime of Korea, if larger breasts were favored, I think we'd see far more idols with noticeable breast enhancements. If you compare the beauty standards in China to those in Korea, you'll see a remarkable difference in how prominently Chinese women display their breasts relative to Korean women. It is difficult to imagine that large breasts are naturally more common in China than Korea.

Good video ! Thank you for mentioning the trend of leaving one arm out of a sweatshirt 😂 Idk who started this trend but I find it so annoying, nonsensical and I can only focus on that when I see an idol do it XD Kpop fashion is so out there sometime a little bit weird (e. i : some of the zimzalabim stage outfits were so fun) but I loved it and atleast I can trust kpop for making strange combinations work or...not😶

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

Lol I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that "trend" is ridiculous. 😂 It hurts

I think the one arm out of sweatshirts only looks good on girls 😂

I usually don't care about the outfits unless the idols are uncomfortable but I never realised till today that Han's pink shirt and Rosie's shirt were even shirts- ngl I thought it looked ok until now. That shit's prolly hella uncomfortable.

@user-ij5sp4zv5h

2 ай бұрын

its not something created in Kpop though, they copied African American hiphop dance scene, people dance in tracksuits often but it gets too sweaty so there was a common theme to get 1 arm out so you could release heat Kpop just copied it from them as they do everything even when it makes no sense in kpop

@JennyRuby2011

2 ай бұрын

@@user-ij5sp4zv5h I didn't know that. Thanks for the info 🩷

The leaving one arm out of a sweatshirt thing is from dancers culture especially hiphop, its like leaving one feet out of blanket if its get hot. I noticed many dancers (not only kpop) wear sweaters or hoodie for dance practice and they tuck one arm out if its get hot and humid in the dance room. The one who did usually only wear tank top under, so they tuck one arm out bc its hot but they dont want to feel as 'exposed' as taking the hoodie off. Some dancers also use it as a style bc it looks cool and effortless (it looks like youre THAT good at dance so its all look easy, even life looks easy to you if thats makes sense). I kinda get it when they use it in dance practice videos like rose but idk why stylist using it as a 'serious' outfits for an mv lol

@user-ij5sp4zv5h

2 ай бұрын

Omg thank you finally someone who actually knows I think alot of kpop fans dont seem to know much about different genres (its okay) but they should assume beforehand nothing in Kpop is unique 9/10 times its taken from African American culture In the Hiphop scene the 1 arm sweatshirt trend is natural instinct to release heat and like you said it looks like your half bothered, clothes looks messy, makes you look almost unbothered and naturally good when you dance, I can compare it to fixing your face mic and still hitting your notes kind of unbothered talent easy

@mivey_

2 ай бұрын

@@user-ij5sp4zv5h yes and thats why its almost always the rappers of the group that get that outfits. for rose im not even suprised bc the entire YG brand was influenced a lot by hiphop culture

5:26- I don’t know if it’s the same for Girl groups but the hoodie situation for most boy groups is to help conceal perky nipples and or skin that may look unflattering for the choreography. Also well not a common case some stylists will do it with a designer hoodie so they could use a cheaper shirt and or a shirt from a brand they can’t show for the styling

You should talk about hair

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

Will be in pt 2 for suuuure 💖

I remember for a good while, there was a phase where the idols wore other accessories as part of their outfits (think back to the matching backpacks seen in omg by newjeans or even those animal hats with the various ears on it) although very cute in theory, its probably not the most practical of clothing options performance wise Another part of kpop styling which i find to be a factor that no other styling industry tends to like doing (and definitely one of the more risque ones ill admit) is gathering ridiculous short shorts onto the safety shorts that is brought for kpop idols in case of accidentally flashing someone on stage. And honestly i want this trend to be gone immediately, like how is korea still present itself as a modest industry yet have this, it seriously baffles me 😭😭😭

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

Great suggestions. Safety shorts are actually the first entry in part 2 🥰 I'm planning on roasting the impractical accessories in another episode about Seven Unforgivable Kpop Styling Sins hahaha.

How FUN this video was to watch! Thank you for this one, I'm genuinely so excited to be a subscriber of yours

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

Truly means so much coming from you, because your channel is one of my very favorites. 🥰

I cackled out loud at the "like the stereotypical new money folks they're inclined to show it off whenever possible" cuz that so reminds me of brown culture (yes as a brown person myslf i can attest to this fact) cuz yes we love it when show our rich privileges to other aunties and uncles and cousins twice removed ;) 😂😂😂😂 Anywho, so far the vid is really informative, always love and always will love the commentary you bring out towards kpop 💙💙

@user-ij5sp4zv5h

2 ай бұрын

thats why designer brands are growing in Asia, but falling in Europe and US

Great video. Also I love your voice

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

Aww thanks! I'm pretty self-conscious about how deep it is so I really appreciate that reinforcement more than I can say. 🥺

As a luxury fashion nerd and K-pop Stan I see this video as an absolute win

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

There is sooo much more where this is coming from! 🥰 Episode 2 is already done and will be dropping in a couple of weeks. The hardest part of launching this channel is definitely waiting for all of the content I've been working on to post!

@CatNagTaylorsVersion

2 ай бұрын

@@overthinkingkpop the content is worth the wait, honestly your whole channels concept is something I both wanted to do for awhile now (full disclosure I’m not posting content on my channel anymore and also if I did comeback I still wouldn’t make this type of content because I wasn’t happy with most of the scripts I had written for that particular series and also I hate editing longer videos with a burning passion) all though not hyper focused on kpop and something I think has really been missing from fandom and niche content genres on KZread but particularly ktube. But now that I know part 2 is coming I will start working on my comments now so I don’t sound like a luxury fashion a**hole in the comments because even one coach bag would probably send me into crippling debt at this point and so I can actually leave informative comments to help actively blend both worlds together

on multiple levels, I know this has to do with my personality disorder (I wish i was joking), but hearing you describe "chaotic neutral" fashion makes me feel so valid because I AM chaotic neutral AND what could be a stylistic mess to the wrong person. Also, this was so informative, even as a longtime fan. I must be unobservant as hell though because I never noticed everyone didn't have sweatshirts on fully. I either thought the shirt only had one sleeve like that or didn't notice period.

@overthinkingkpop

2 ай бұрын

Lol now that you're looking for the half-on sweatshirts, you'll start seeing them everywhere 😂 Thank you so much for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed it! I'm really excited about this series. It has been fun scoping examples for it over the past few months. If you ever find anymore bad sweatshirt examples let me know 😂

@nayeonchantix

2 ай бұрын

@@overthinkingkpop this is an aspect of kpop that I really do not know a lot about, so I'm excited to see part two!