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Is This Mini PC TOO SMALL?

Is This Mini PC TOO SMALL?

The NUC is BACK!

The NUC is BACK!

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  • @mankala8
    @mankala85 сағат бұрын

    They must watch your show. It's currently listed as "CWWK Magic Computer".

  • @NoneOofyourbiznesss
    @NoneOofyourbiznesss12 сағат бұрын

    put two with heatsinks facing eachother and a cold plate between hooked to cooling and then mount cpus on both sides with a sandwich like socket that snaps down like vhs rewind machine

  • @shaunerickson2858
    @shaunerickson285816 сағат бұрын

    I bought one of these and it worked great in RouterOS. I discovered, however, that the two SFP+ ports were 100% non-functional, when the switch was booted into SwOS. They worked perfectly in RouterOS, but were dead in SwOS. I opened a support ticket with Mikrotik, and they sent me a link to SwOS version 2.17rc2 (I had been running 2.16), specifically for this switch, to upgrade it to, and that got them working. Keep this in mind if you have this issue.

  • @ecotts
    @ecotts18 сағат бұрын

    Nice bit of kit.

  • @headlibrarian1996
    @headlibrarian199619 сағат бұрын

    This seems like it would make a good ceph storage cluster node, and they're cheap enough to make a five node cluster instead of the three node clusters you typically see with the MS-01.

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo15 сағат бұрын

    Yes

  • @Hugh_I
    @Hugh_I21 сағат бұрын

    Those 144 e-core chips aren't competing with Bergamo for the reasons mentioned in the video. They (and also the 288 core parts) are also not competing with Bergamo, because Bergamo is AMD's last gen part. Their actual competitor is going be Turin-Dense.

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo20 сағат бұрын

    Correct, but Turin Dense is also 5+ months off at minimum.

  • @Hugh_I
    @Hugh_I19 сағат бұрын

    ​@@ServeTheHomeVideo Also correct :) The 288 core parts won't be out much sooner than Turin-Dense though.

  • @michaelcarson8375
    @michaelcarson837522 сағат бұрын

    What sockets do the chips use? You have not actually stated THAT, in the video or ON the web site. On Page 2 of the article linked in the reply. Thanks.

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo21 сағат бұрын

    LGA4710 www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-6-6700e-sierra-forest-shatters-xeon-expectations/2/

  • @michaelcarson8375
    @michaelcarson837513 сағат бұрын

    @@ServeTheHomeVideo Page 2 Paragraph 10? I guess you can call that a paragraph. I'll edit my other post. Thank you. Still would have liked to see this mentioned in the video.

  • @calvint3419
    @calvint3419Күн бұрын

    Can I use E-Core as AI inferencing?

  • @mamdouh-Tawadros
    @mamdouh-TawadrosКүн бұрын

    You have not compared AMD vs Intel in terms of of price, consumption, and benchmarks. What you have mentioned is Intel’s own opinion.

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideoКүн бұрын

    Huh? We had benchmarks and power in there. Price was not released until after this but we have it on the main site and we talk about platform costs here. Very strange comment

  • @GEEKOMPC
    @GEEKOMPCКүн бұрын

    Why not try a GEEKOM mini PC which is equipped AMD Ryzen R9 or 13th Gen Intel Core i9/i7?😉

  • @criggie
    @criggieКүн бұрын

    I bought the non POE version, and it definitely came with rackmount ears. There are only two fan cutouts in the rear of my chassis. Management does not support IPv6. Saving changes is kinda cisco-like in that you have to hit save and they apply, but they're not saved. To save though a reboot you have to "copy running-config startup-config" either in the console or in the webgui. It DOES support SSH and HTTPS but you have to generate keys for that to work, and that single function isn't in the webui, so.... telnet it was for a short time. There is no serial console port, so in-band management only. And for the price, I don't really care. Firmware updates is the single concern - I can't find a firmware anywhere, and the switch could be hard to recover without a real console port.

  • @woodduck
    @woodduckКүн бұрын

    I'm so excited to have one of these nifty chips in my homeland in 8 years

  • @NiklasLonn
    @NiklasLonnКүн бұрын

    Just tested out one of my new purchased Horaco switches and afte a few minutes ipv4 forwarding ceases to function. IPv6 still works, replacing with another switch it works again... (so not an issue with the router...) Wonder what scary stuff its trying to do... it must be doing something on the ip layer.. anyone else had similar experience?

  • @BrokenCurtain
    @BrokenCurtain2 күн бұрын

    Got this one and am quite pleased with it. You really need to sweep the system and do a clean install, though.

  • @rudypieplenbosch6752
    @rudypieplenbosch67522 күн бұрын

    Too little too late, the damage has already been done, Epyc will crush the remaining Intel line.

  • @YourMomSimpsForPFSense
    @YourMomSimpsForPFSense2 күн бұрын

    Lookout boys, gonna have to keep an eye out for management. Once they see that kind of consolidation, they are gonna start asking why the server rooms need to be so big

  • @protolink24
    @protolink242 күн бұрын

    This actually seems like a sweet homelab part for people who want to play around with virtualization but don't need tons of single core perf. Basically this lets people get the performance of buying an old craigslist dell server without heating their entire home with it. Can even probably squeeze into 1U without fans that your neighbors will file noise complaints about.

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo2 күн бұрын

    I think the 96 and 64 core parts might be super for this as well. Also, these days 2U makes a lot of sense and lets you use quieter fans

  • @protolink24
    @protolink242 күн бұрын

    @@ServeTheHomeVideo Yeah I agree I think for homelab the lower count parts are the sweet spot. And it's also a compelling part compared to something like Ampere M128-26.

  • @rivers5320
    @rivers53202 күн бұрын

    "most people only use the out of the box bios setting" even if this is true (I don't think home users who buy these would not look at the bios) I think you should test with the different PL settings

  • @AIEnhanced-ts5ko
    @AIEnhanced-ts5ko2 күн бұрын

    I got a refurbished one with 128GB M2 storage and 8 GB RAM for 98$.

  • @RappinAcoustic
    @RappinAcoustic2 күн бұрын

    More than these chips, I am excited about the ripple effect this release will cause in the second hand market when Cascade lake Xeons start flooding eBay at a much lower price than they currently are.

  • @demarco777
    @demarco7772 күн бұрын

    @1:35 Everyone needs to know, this is an Intel-sponsored video. If Patrick completely bashes their CPU, he won't get more $$, simple.

  • @demarco777
    @demarco7772 күн бұрын

    Patrick showing so much enthusiasm with hope Intel sponsors his hotel and plane for Computex next year, like Intel sponsored every other analyst out there. 😂😂✈️🏩 The problem here Patrick, is potential loss in trusting information when things like that happen.

  • @BR0KK85
    @BR0KK852 күн бұрын

    Now I want a ram drive in my PC please ... Like the ones with ddr1 and 2 back in the day. Gigabyte had one 😅

  • @kevikiru
    @kevikiru2 күн бұрын

    I complained last time about the title and thumbnail. I must say that I love this title and thumbnail. They are informative but also raise my curiosity. And since there is a lot of information that is in the video itself, there was no reason to be stingy on the former. Thanks Patrick. And congratulations on the new member of the family! Sorry I was so harsh the previous video around the birth of your child. I did not know.

  • @Alpine_flo92002
    @Alpine_flo920022 күн бұрын

    All the intel hate is wild in the comments. There is a reason not every company has replaced their intel servers with AMD. Intel has a TON of integrated features that AMD just doesnt have. Intel also has way more, more task optimized CPUs

  • @EER0000
    @EER00002 күн бұрын

    This looks very exciting, but it does have me wondering if you consolidate like 12 servers to a single machine, are you not creating a much bigger single point of failure in your infrastructure?

  • @hubstrangers3450
    @hubstrangers34502 күн бұрын

    Thank you....

  • @TheEnimabandit
    @TheEnimabandit2 күн бұрын

    do we have any idea on pricing on these we run a decent amount of Hyper V VMs so this might be interesting to us!

  • @ff00005
    @ff000052 күн бұрын

    My mind keeps coming back to Xeon Phi with those, and its atrocious 1T performance which made them annoying to work with for mixed HPC workloads. Back then, I thought they'd really do well with a single P-Core and I honestly don't see the difference with Sierra Forest. Care to explain? :)

  • @skaltura
    @skaltura2 күн бұрын

    Awesome overview! Looks like Intel is truly trying to catch up

  • @ALmaN11223344
    @ALmaN112233442 күн бұрын

    The only Ryzen desktop SKUs that have been found to not support ECC are the xxxxG class CPUs, with even the xxxxGE Pro APU SKUs supporting ECC memory if one is in the market for an APU. Moreover, unless these are monolithic like a 4750GE is then they'll still have Ryzen's piss poor idle power draw and will likely just be far worse homelab style server parts. It really makes you wonder who these are actually for, the chips will be more expensive with next to 0 actual benefit over their Ryzen line. If there is an 8700G Pro that'll piss all over these offerings for the typical user.

  • @OTechnology
    @OTechnology2 күн бұрын

    Can't wait till these are $100 on ebay and I can build a 288-core homelab server

  • @sloanNYC
    @sloanNYC2 күн бұрын

    The power efficiency with that many cores and that much RAM is impressive.

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo2 күн бұрын

    Yes. It is wild.

  • @demarco777
    @demarco777Күн бұрын

    I'll wait for independent benchmarks from Anandtech or something. Right now, we have to take this video content with a grain of salt, considering it is an Intel-sponsored video. Patrick ain't gonna bash Intel Xeon too much, considering Intel's paying his lunch :)

  • @yanko694
    @yanko6942 күн бұрын

    what are the limits for m.2 ssd? 2tb or can we get 2x 4tb hen3??

  • @Proton_Decay
    @Proton_Decay2 күн бұрын

    Congrats on the kiddo, STH+ST_Crib, I'm still running my home nas from before we had kids and the oldest is still years away from having independent screen time, but I'm hoping to see some ideas for engaging kids with real tech stuff early on. So far 3D printing is leading the way more than compute type stuff.

  • @clou09
    @clou092 күн бұрын

    I just hope they didn't compromise on security too much for the sake of performance, only time will tell. The efficiency tho is mighty impressive, they finally have something for the competition and not just brand bs marketing.

  • @g.paudra8942
    @g.paudra89422 күн бұрын

    All E Cores? that's great for web app hosting or VPS

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo2 күн бұрын

    That is one of the target markets.

  • @BAD_CONSUMER
    @BAD_CONSUMER2 күн бұрын

    Congrats on the baby.

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo2 күн бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @alldecentnamestaken
    @alldecentnamestaken2 күн бұрын

    That efficiency is crazy. Doing some back of the envelope math servers with these new chips could pay for themselves in pretty short order. Intel is back!

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo2 күн бұрын

    Yes

  • @ClayBellBrews
    @ClayBellBrews2 күн бұрын

    So I think you are wrong on the 6700 series, I suspect it will be the primary sales driver. It’s a great replacement for data centers that have aging equipment that had lower power draws. I see this as the primary upgrade path for an enormous number of 5-6yr old racks/pods. As always, imho :)

  • @konnorj6442
    @konnorj64422 күн бұрын

    Some direct co prisons to AMDs various options inc new am5 epyc along with their 4c's and for the home lab guys toss in both some older server bits and same for systems built on consumer hardware Oh and dont forget arm for some cases will be useless for homeland use esp for many nas systems as well

  • @nhanNguyen-wo8fy
    @nhanNguyen-wo8fy2 күн бұрын

    14:10 So how efficient does this compare to Ampere Altra Arm server CPU?

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo2 күн бұрын

    We talk about it in the video and have a section of the main site article. This is much faster and uses DDR5/ PCIe gen 5, has accelerators, and 250W/ 144C. Of course Ampere can be cheaper and if you want to develop on Arm without going NVIDIA then it is still the best option out there. Perf/W this is a big upgrade

  • @nhanNguyen-wo8fy
    @nhanNguyen-wo8fy2 күн бұрын

    ​@@ServeTheHomeVideo Yeah, It has faster IO but then still. There is no number no graph to talk about their comparison in efficiency?

  • @oscarcharliezulu
    @oscarcharliezulu2 күн бұрын

    Let’s all welcome the new SFF - small form factor Patrick !

  • @manga99uk
    @manga99uk2 күн бұрын

    Still AMD CPU for Servers will blast this out of the water why make it sound like Intel will change thing okay if you say so we will forget about AMD is in the room 😅

  • @oscarcharliezulu
    @oscarcharliezulu2 күн бұрын

    Memory plugged into PCI slots! Takes me back to old PC-XT’s and microchannel PS2’s.

  • @dar1e08
    @dar1e082 күн бұрын

    No AVX isn't going to appeal to the scientific compute folks

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo2 күн бұрын

    It is not intended for that market, but it does have an AVX2 with VNNI and such

  • @dar1e08
    @dar1e082 күн бұрын

    @@ServeTheHomeVideo Ah does it now, I stand corrected - thanks!

  • @nhanNguyen-wo8fy
    @nhanNguyen-wo8fy2 күн бұрын

    9:52 No they're comparing this CPU to 64core 128 thread Epyc 9534 not 128 core Epyc.

  • @blkspade23
    @blkspade232 күн бұрын

    I think the real intent (other than a move favorable comparison) to that choice was the TDP target of 250w. The Epyc 9534 default TDP is 280w and configurable down to 240W. The 128 Core ranges 320-400w for which it better be faster. On that basis the 84 core Epyc 9634 would've been the better comparison with the same TDP range as the 64 core.

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo2 күн бұрын

    Totally correct. Also you need to be at 32c for Genoa to be at 250W default TDP or less

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo2 күн бұрын

    Yes. Note added on that slide as I caught that just before uploading this morning

  • @OVERKILL_PINBALL
    @OVERKILL_PINBALL2 күн бұрын

    *CONGRATULATIONS DAD!!*

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo2 күн бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @geesharp6637
    @geesharp66372 күн бұрын

    What cli tool was used to show the e core clocks?

  • @dieboodskapper
    @dieboodskapper2 күн бұрын

    the ultimate test will be to run a benchmark test on a only one core (rest of cpu's in idle state) that has to traverse its data across cache and PCI to off chip memory .......get the benchmark results and then duplicate this whole process in parallel across all cores using all cashes and PCI lanes and see how much slower the original benchmark is affected by IO bottlenecks. MY GUESS IS THAT IT WILL BE BETWEEN 30-50 percent. In the end buss access is still all about the resources divided by the number of CPUs