After years, it seems 2.5 GbE will finally hit its stride. Some predicted it would be 1 GbE to 10, but pricing for consumer level stuff never really came down to earth yet for 10 GbE. Hope Mikrotik updates everything to 2.5 Gbps baseline!

@level80888

6 ай бұрын

with Wifi7 reaches 46gbit and Wifi6E around 9gbit 2.5gbe looks pointless. 10gbe home network is next step.

@JeffGeerling

6 ай бұрын

@@level80888 Well... 99% of consumer WiFi 6E routers will never be pumping through even a gigabit (for various reasons), and 2.5G seems to be what most 6E and 7 vendors are settling on for this generation. Only in the enterprise realm are there models with 10G built in, and those are fairly insane in pricing. It'll be another 5-10 years, I think, before 10G could really take off for consumers. Prices still need to come down!

@DozIT

6 ай бұрын

Up here in Canada, our major ISPs have started providing ONTs and AIO Modems with 10Gbe ports. In Ottawa, Bell is offering 8Gbps home internet for $200/mo. Though at the switching level, 10Gbe is just too expensive for the home, happy to see ISPs considering the future, so that home users can 'ride the wave' up to 10Gb!

@JeffGeerling

6 ай бұрын

@@DozIT I wish American ISPs were so forward-thinking. 1 Gbps is still a pipe dream for most, and 5 GbE is barely achievable in a select few areas. At least some places are laying fiber now.

@DozIT

6 ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling My experience is based in Ottawa, Canada. From what I hear, there are still chunks of rural Canada on DSL and dial-up (with Starlink making up for it). They started fibre to the home in my city around 10 years ago, which has been amazingly reliable (and fast).

A tip for quieting the switch down without having to change the default fan: There is a fan speed control under System > Health. By default it completely stops the fan to 0 %. Increase the minimum fan speed percentage from 0 % to 15 %. It’s still very quiet at that speed but the switch won’t warm up as much as with the default 0 % which then periodically ramps up the fan to pretty loud levels.

@gmas

6 ай бұрын

I've also replaced the fan with a Noctua and connected it via the low noise adapter. This makes it bearable with an SFP+ to RJ45 transceiver that idles at 74C and basically keeps the fan at full speed non-stop.

@homersimpson6074

6 ай бұрын

I have also replaced the default fan with a Noctua one (NF-A4x20 PWM). That makes sitting next to it bearable. One key to the fan speed is if, you use RJ45-to-SFP+ modules. These get hot quickly and trigger the fan to ramp up. If possible try to use DAC cables or optical SFP+ modules. They don't get so hot >> less fan noise.

@Wahinies

6 ай бұрын

Nice call. Unoptimized fan curves have been the bane of my existence for a minute.

@chuckevans2792

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@wojciechb1602

5 күн бұрын

Since I am planning to put one of these in my bedroom - will it be safe if I just, unplug the fan? If possible I would mount it on the wall, (un)plugged fan pointing ceiling (no rack).

As a hobbyist electrical engineer I can tell you that the unpopulated components on the PCB is almost certainly for PoE in a future product.

@arudanel5542

6 ай бұрын

Good catch, I was thinking all those round marks looked like spots for caps. Was curious why, that makes total sense. Also that barrel jack being rated for so much juice would make more sense that way too.

@marcogenovesi8570

6 ай бұрын

Yeah Mikrotik always does this, they make a single board design and then "rush out" the product without PoE, then a little bit later they start offering PoE too

@Ojref1

6 ай бұрын

It better be POE+ spec too. This fails the trifecta for 2.5GB, POE+ and SPF+ to make it useful as a WIFI/Camera switch.

@DavidCNavas

6 ай бұрын

I was about to ask exactly this question. Nice.

@markbooth3066

6 ай бұрын

That's exactly what I was going to suggest.

Love this company. Not Chinese and good value. Thank you Latvia for awesome switches.

@jaywhite15_AL

2 ай бұрын

VERY much!! I love my MikroTik equipment. Also some of the best constructed equipment I know of.

10" networking cabinets are kind of a thing in privat homes here in Europe. The mentioned optional mounting solution isn't only to double mount, it's also for 10" racks. So that is a perfectly sized product for that market.

@majstealth

6 ай бұрын

fucking 42U 800x1000mm - get gud but i see a 10" 4-6U more realisticaly in a non-it household

@gentlemanbirdlake

6 ай бұрын

yes want to see more 10” but also please double the density of ports fit in 1u half rack.

Instant click on anything 2.5GbE.

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

Totally agree. I hope there are more soon!

Had this switch in my home now for a month. Been running great with zero complaints.

I Just bought two of these on ebay for 400 bucks total. I am impressed, and these things are as good as you think they are. Also extremely quiet without a ton of load. I could see someone wanting to change out the fan to a noctua if it was running at full load, but nearly silent in my usecase (not really slamming it).

Out of band serial port probably availible on the USB port like the RB5009 switch. Use two Usb to serial adapters head to head to your pc to connect. Or get Mikrotik Wireless out of band management USB stick (Woobm-USB) is a useful assistant for any network administrator. Simply plug it into any RouterBOARD USB port and it will allow you to access the console of that device over wireless. It sets up as a wireless access point and has a simple web interface where you can access a fully featured terminal interface to configure your router, and where you can configure the Woobm itself.

I love your energy in your videos, and this switch looks great entry into the 2.5Gb market. I love a good managed switch, not least because they're a huge help in diagnostics.

I have been using it for a few weeks now. I first changed the fan to a quieter one, and it has been running fine, not getting hot, with 1x10Gbps fibers and fully 8x2.5Gbps loaded.

Thanks for the video it looks like a great value I'm glad we now have options to go past 1gbe and also having the two sfp+ ports make it useful long term! Now I must learn how to configure mikrotik's devices ahah

Interesting find. I just purchased and am using a MokerLink 2G08110GSM, a smart managed switch with 8 2.5GbE and one 10Gb SFP+ port. Not the smoothest interface for management but it works, for how long though is unknown. It is on Amazon in the $140 range right now.

Freaking wicked video Patrick !! Love this !!

We have a little 2x10G and 8x1G in our office for a few years now sadly haven't used it yet. Might have to get our guys to setup it for a few basic things it's great to see some of these little switches. We mostly run all enterprise 40/100g switches as it's in a data center.

Patrick, I think you nailed this review. And I agree on the PoE and heatsink for the next model. I also agree on a lockable power cord, and I would add a rocker power switch. I would rather see the power on the back of the device though. I can't count the times I accidently yanked a power cord while people were working. And I've had clients mix up power plug-in when unplugging several devices when the Internet goes out.

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! I think that is why at least having the retention hook to prevent that is important.

regarding routing performance, this device can in fact do L3 offloading. their own test results are done on the CPU, it's questionable why they don't provide L3 offload results. we use these switches with L3 offloading in production and they work great (although early releases were wonky, but it's ironed out now). just make sure to check limitations, don't expect to hold 1m routes in the ASIC...

@floodo1

4 ай бұрын

thx that’s a huge factor

The way that you broke down HW bases features vs SW was great!

The only thing that this switch bothers me is the power cord at the front of the machine. If they can move that to the back of the switch then this thing is goat; PoE would be nice too. And I WISH that they can make a new rack mount accessory that can mount two RB5009 and one of this on one level, that will make it absolutely the best combo.

A management port, and a blower fan would make this a clear winner. The air flow path is also sub-par. It probably comes in the vents and goes straight back to the fan missing most of the board components. A couple good channels directing the air over the heatsinks would help tremendously.

First time I see a review on anything that I already got hahah I hope they release more switches in this form-factor, would be nice to get a 6-8 port SFP+ one to go next to this one. It could also use PoE, I hope they release an updated version of this one later down the line.

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

Totally agreed. Talked about all of that in Key Lessons Learned including showing a PoE option. This switch randomly showed up without warning just as I was heading to Taiwan to film that last QCT liquid cooling video and before the studio was packed in September. The move to the new bigger studio slowed us down quite a bit.

@etimacias

6 ай бұрын

​It seems it's their first go in this market - and given the history - I'm certain they will come up with the whole line-up :) Also it's a very feature-rich switch with L3 HW offload! Did you have a chance to test the 2.5Gbps PoE on this D-Link? I heard a lot of rumors about 2.5G PoE being very problematic.

@shadowkora

6 ай бұрын

Perks of replying before watching the full video 😂 Was testing some stuff yesterday, the fan at full throttle is *very* loud, so I might replace it with a Noctua one. Also the LED control on this device doesn't support (and won't as confirmed by Mikrotik support) turning off interface LEDs, minor inconvenience for some, bigger for some others (like me, as I have the server rack in my room and the lights are a little annoying at night)

@concinnus

6 ай бұрын

The unpopulated pads on the board look to be for a PoE version.

@be-kind00

6 ай бұрын

Bought this 2 weeks ago. The fan noise seems to go away after a couple of minutes. I wonder if fully loaded with 2 DACS or SPF+ (not RJ45 transciever) if it will stay quiet and not need the fan repalcement?@@ServeTheHomeVideo

I have some initial thoughts after watching your review. 1. I agree where the F is the console management port? 2. I'm not a fan of barrel jack power adapters. I'd prefer to use a standard power cable. 3. I'm also not a fan of the power being in the front. As a fan of rack mounting network equipment this screams bad cable management. 4. I'd love that it has 2.5G ethernet but I'd like to see them all on the same row to make the switch wider. Bonus points if it could be long enough to be rack mountable. Sometimes you only need 8 ports and still want to be able mount it in a rack. 5. I'm with you where's the POE? 6. Since there's no POE and low power why not make it fanless? Overall, love that MicroTik released this and like Jeff Geerling said I hope they are pushing for 2.5G ethernet to be more standard and a baseline for all their products. This is definitely a step in the right direction.

Mikrotik *used* to be the inexpensive option, but they're doing exactly what Ubiquiti has done and they're moving further into the mid-range territory. Their CRS312-4C+8XG-RM switch launched at $900 in my region, now it's over 30% more expensive at $1250. Is that temporary chip shortage pricing and it will come down again, or are we stuck with nVIDIA "new normal" RTX pricing "because they can"? They might just be leaving room for the cheap Chinese manufacturers to muscle into their market segment while not being suitable for the market segment they're trying to move into.... Edit: readability correction

Very interesting channel, thanks. liked && subscribed

The thing this switch has that almost none of the others have is wire speed L3 routing. Add Poe to that and it’s basically perfect.

I actually pulled the trigger on this switch two days ago (pro tip you can get it cheaper from the EU), and that TP Link was my original first choice. But, that TP Link has also had a lot of reports of failure for the first two versions, hence why there's so many hardware versions of the sand switch, and the cost is considerably more.

Hi Patrick (and team)! Very cool. This one is very interesting. I read the review when it came out and I was waiting on the video for a better sense of the fan noise. I'm a little concerned about not having a serial port, but it is a pretty great price for a managed switch with a decent ASIC. And ya, it sure looks like unpopulated POE power on that empty side of the board. Now we just need Asus and the others to step up their game on a home router with all multigig, switched, LAN ports.

@andiszile

6 ай бұрын

Why not Mikrotik hAP series WiFi router ?

@I4get42

6 ай бұрын

@@andiszile Hello there! Ooh, that's fine too, but once 2.5gig (and maybe 5gig) are in mainstream products at local stores the economies of scale for reasonably reliable, efficient equipment can really kick in :-D . When Netgear and Asus are buying truckloads of 2.5gig ASICs, they will be cheaper for Mikrotik too.

@andiszile

6 ай бұрын

@@I4get42 Ok. Got your point. Waiting on very large scale manufacturers to bring the price down.

GREAT review

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

Ha! Thanks. Famous CS AWPer!

The name on Mikrotiks tell you his features: Cloud Router Switch - You can Use Router OS or Switch OS (dual boot) 310 -- 3 -- 300 Series -- 10 - 10 Wired Connection No wifi --- 8G+ == 8 Gigabit plus (multigigabit) ports 2S+ - 2 SFP+ Ports IN = Indoor case, also there is RM rack Mound and OUT for outdoor uses.. Same on example RB3011-UiAS-RM 3000 Series 0 - Zero Wireless 11 - Wired connections U- USB i- PoE Out on one Port usually the last one A- AP Licence (level 4) S- SFP port RM- RackMount

Perfect Video,MikroTik always made the best！

For the switch to be really interesting I'd like it to have four SFP+ ports. It doesn't seem like it makes much of a difference, but it actually do. That and the existence of PoE+ makes the CRS112 very useful at my workplace where we have an extensive optical fiber net.

@shanent5793

6 ай бұрын

I agree, can't build a four post mesh without using some of the client ports

Hey Patrick, it Mik-rotik, not Micro-tik, those crazy Lithuanians (no seriously, they are crazy ingenious from my experience). Love this channel lots!

I liked the old days when the ports and power were on the rear of the unit, and the LED were on the front

Hopefully the packet buffer is a bit deeper. The previous switch was unusable with streaming video like NDI when going from 10g to 1G and vise verse, but more noticing going from 10 to 1.

My bet is on a PoE version of this. Notice the 8x on the board silk screen, from their nomenclature it's 8G for regular ports and 8P for PoE ports. With those missing populated components. Sprinkle some inductors, caps, transistors and a beefier power connector on to the board.

@level80888

6 ай бұрын

yeah, and double the price. No, thank you.

Almost what I'm looking for but not quite. I power my network gear with a 12V Micro UPS and while I could step it up to 19V with a simple adapter it's not exactly efficient. I'd love a 12V passively cooled 8 port 2.5G switch with VLAN support. I currently use a Netgear GS308E it works well but sadly only 1G.

The CRS family is dual boot capable. Try booting it using SwOS that is the less heavy more switch oriented software that allows management. Thanks for the review.

This might be a weird take, but I'm glad it has a fan. I have the CRS328-24P-4S, which is their 24 port 1gig and 2x SFP+ port for 200-ish bucks (these days). It doesn't have a fan. Even running a SINGLE copper based 10G SFP+ module in the summer in it will heat it to the point where that module goes into thermal protection and the link dies. I had to add a small fan myself to just get some airflow over the SFP+ cages, which is barely running but enough. Thankfully, even that switch has a fan-shaped cutout at the back (cause MikroTik is nice to us like that). So with anything SFP+ the fan isn't just about the actual switch, but the modules that can be quite power/heat intensive. My 4 port MikroTik SFP+ (that cute little thing that has only those ports) does OK with a single SFP+ since there are perforations directly above (and I just have a single copper 10G SFP+ in there), but even that gets kinda toasty and I'll throw a fan on that too once it lives in the thermally worse location it's destined for.

@marcogenovesi8570

6 ай бұрын

The copper SFP+ modules heat A LOT, and that's one of the reasons 10gbit copper is dead in the water. If you use fiber or SFP+ cable there is no overheating issue

@level80888

6 ай бұрын

@@marcogenovesi8570copper is just fine. Its SPF+ to copper transsivers overheat.

@marcogenovesi8570

6 ай бұрын

@@level80888 10gbit cards that have rj45 connectors for copper cable heat more than cards with SPF+ too. More power is needed for 10gbit copper than 10gbit optic or short range SPF+ cables

@TheCreat

6 ай бұрын

@@marcogenovesi8570 I'm aware copper 10g gets hot, but that wasn't the point. Someone might want to use a copper 10g module in these, and without a fan you basically can't unless you modify it (by adding a fan). I personally prefer DAC or fiber (for longer runs) of course, but I happen to have a copper line where I need a connection, so I'm not spending 2 weekends to somehow get fiber there, too. @level80888 No, non-SFP+ 10G "modules" or cards or chips get just as hot, they just need 2-3W of power. It has nothing to do with the form factor, it's just unsuited for cooling it well without external help since it's compact and has no fins. If you're using a 10g copper switch with multiple active ports, check power usage. It's the same. Cause it's literally the same chip just in a different housing and probably with a proper heatsink.

@marcogenovesi8570

6 ай бұрын

@@TheCreat I'm telling you why they took that shortcut, because it's not that common. Other switches also have similar issues if you use too many SFP+ copper modules even with the fans will have issues.

If I had one of these with MGig and standard gig 12-16 ports maybe 1/3rd 2/3rds WITH POE+ even just on the gig ports I'd buy a a couple of those. I'm having to use other switches to fill that lack currently and I'd rather have Mikrotik for the ease of management.

@ServeTheHome you can also put this switch in smaller 10" racks if you use Mikrotik's P/N RMK-2/10 with it

for $250 looks ok for extension of your network to remote room. But biggest omission is lack of POE for at least few ports, AND needs few more SFP+ or rj45 10gbe for devices. Developers truly do not understand the usecase.

I am curious if this is good enough for a small dev lab to do iSCSI at near port speed. Will the buffer be able to handle it?

thanks for the video, I hadn't had Mikrotik "on my radar" before question: what is the Update/EoL Policy for Mikrotek devices?

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

Depends on the model. The CRS line with this switch chip tend to be popular so usually it is quite a long time (but varies).

The amount of unpopulated footprints for large capacitors on that board makes me think that POE+ might actually be in store for that very board, because what else would you need large amounts of large capacitors for in a switch other than power delivery :)

By the review post, you mentioned there's no retention for the power jack. It is like that on the desktop models, i Just installed One two days ago, same thing.

Just ordered another Dell R210ii to build a 2nd PFSense box. Would love to just see a 12-16 port multi gig switch that uses SFPs for the entire thing for cheap maybe a few RJ45 ethernetports. I am thinking about getting another switch you recommended the Hasivo S1100W-8XGT-SE but the price has gone up and all my servers already run fiber, so hate to get new SFP's to convert them to coper. So kinda looking at the MicroTik CRS309 just see a lot of people saying the SFP runs really hot. I am going to need some multigig stuff to interface new WAN 5gb service and 2.5gb (or higher) Wireless Access Points. So this being 2.5gb is not the right item, but I do like MicroTik stuff and would prefer to some unknown like Hasivo.

So, I want to build a 5-10G home network. My ISP currently only supports 5G. What is the least expensive way to build it? I assume the hassivo 10G switch is a good choice for additional ports but what would you recommend for a router? I have a UDM Pro but it only has 10G WAN ports and 1G LAN ports.

The custom STH "creator edition" LTT Screwdriver making an appearance ;-)

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

Ha! My creator edition is Blue/ Black.I think that is the one I made at LTT Expo this year while Linus was staring over my shoulder while filming Jeff Geerling making his

I always wanted a RJ45 10Gbe alongside the spf+ as many homes are still using cat5e to pass around 10G unofficially. I had a ubiquity switch unmanaged that does that for about 180 dollars😂 but slower ports are Gbe. Wonderful if we have 2.5 x8 sfp+ x2 and RJ45 10G x1 hopefullyx2

@post-leftluddite

6 ай бұрын

Exactly...I've got CAT6a in my walls...I'm not going to run fiber, neither is 99.99% of homeowners, and I don't want to buy expensive transceivers....is it me, or do they seem very reluctant to put a 10GBase-T port on these things?

I wish this was tested with a bench power supply instead of whatever is going on inside that provided wall wart brick. Or, even better let us see that data comparison of the difference between the wall wart and a calibrated bench power supply. Maybe next review? plz Thank you so much for all of these amazing videos !!!

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

That one is pretty close to the Extech TrueRMS power unit we used. (~0.1-0.4W from 1-200W) We actually buy like two dozen of these, test them, and then only use the one(s) that are close. For the low-cost series, we started using them since it is closer to what people will see that do not have power meters that cost hundreds of dollars.

Need more 10GBe + 2.5Gbe Managed switches reviewed.. I am thinking one of these and an POE+ one would be a perfect setup for my home servers and WiFi distribution. This one might even be too big for my structured cable cabinet.

@ServeTheHomeVideo

5 ай бұрын

We have a new round-up coming. Trying to get it all done in the new studio, so things are a bit slow right now.

Love it!

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

Thanks!!

Will you be testing the AOOSTAR / Topton NAS? I'm thinking of purchasing them and I would like your view on it. It has the Intel N100, supports 2 x 3.5 HDD, 32GB RAM and 2.5G connections.

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

We have not just because we typically test bigger NAS units. We do have the bigger Tooton NAS, but not sure if we are going to do the review since there are a few usability things our team does not love.

I still love my QNAP qsw-m408-2c.. it has more 10Gb (4x of which 2 are combo) ports but yes 8 1Gb ports

I’m looking for a 2.5g poe managed switch on a budget. Can you help me with my search? I can’t seem to find any at all! Love your videos 🎉

I liked the power cable retention on microtik switches at first But after using it for a while in the lab where i was always rewiring stuff, it got more annoying than anything Still kinda disappointed they did away with it lol

you can configure one port as management port

While the power plug can be an issue. A couple dabs of hotmelt glue can make the plug very difficult to accidently unplug

Has there been any testing of this unit as a media converter/router for Bell FTTH? Based on the bench tests published on MikroTik's website for this unit - as a switch it seems OK, but as a router, their tests indicate that with normal firewall activity and IP queries, the throughput would be about 25Mb. With Bell FTTH, an SFP module and internet speeds up to 3.0 Gbps, it appears this unit wouldn't perform very well.

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

Usually you would use another router/ firewall with this unit.

Hey great video! Makes me wonder though, if there is a market for 8port 2.5gbe poe switches. Most usecases that I know that use poe usually need way more ports, and most poe use does not require 2.5gbe. Am I missing something?

@level80888

6 ай бұрын

yes, you are. Industrial poe switches have the quantity and capacity of Poe ports you have said. For home or soho use there is a need only for few Poe ports: 1-2 AP and 1-2 phones. The latter is rare.

Havng the power connector on the front is just poor & lazy engineering and most likely due to keep costs down. I highly urge Mikrotik to change that in a rev. 2. Also, having a active fan in a 'desktop' product is just a no-go. Not counting possible additional maintenance it's also adding to the overall ambient noise profile in any SOHO scenario. Like many others I've been waiting for this product-drop, but the fore-mentioned issues are probably going to make me look for competing products, unfortunately.

@Xamy-

6 ай бұрын

Yup

Waiting for the RB5009 version.🙂

Do you have a video out for how you would design a home network with at least 2.5gb? Thanks! :)

Hello, Are you able to test the Ruijie Reyee switches? This MikroTik model similar to Reyee model RG-NBS5300-8MG2XS-UP.

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

We have tested a few that were rebranded by FS. Those are a bit harder to get in the US

Any chance you connect this to a cAP ax and go tru a WiFi 6 setup tutorial ?

how do you perform a Switch and routing test ?

To be honest, I can find a USED Cisco switch on ebay that is PoE, has 4 SFP+ ports, etc for half the price and a ton more features, just not 2.5GBE which I don't really need anyway. I use the 3560-CG series for desktop use in my office because the switch is totally silent and fanless. SWEET!

Make a PoE+ version and you have the "golden" home switch. Also hoping their firmware on their cheaper switches gets better. The CSS610-8P-2S+IN has been working stable, but it has some bugs when configuring. Auto negotiation of speed on the sfp + ports does not work etc.

@ZiggyTheHamster

6 ай бұрын

> Auto negotiation of speed on the sfp + ports does not work etc. If you have S+RJ10 transceivers, the first revision has a hardware bug where auto-negotiation doesn't work. Also the switch might be buggy too, but I figured I'd mention the transceiver bug in case that's actually what you're experiencing.

@Tempo_Gigante

6 ай бұрын

Just keep it as a separate option, I will NOT buy!

This looks like a neat device. The power connector though….that is one goofy design choice if I ever saw one. The lack of a console port and missing management port though…this is alarmingly close to being a deal breaker for me. Having either one would really have been nice.

@marcogenovesi8570

6 ай бұрын

On Mikrotiks you can plug a Prolific chipset usb serial in the USB port and it will automatically configure console over that (so you plug usb to serial in the USB on the switch, then serial cable, then serial to usb for your PC). It was used originally with the "Woobm-USB" dongle they sell. This works only inside RouterOS so it's ok for normal configuration but you can't do recovery or other advanced stuff where you need actual serial for bootloader access

@Darkk6969

6 ай бұрын

@@marcogenovesi8570 Which is the whole point of having a dedicated management port on the switch for ease of management and recovery. It's not a deal breaker for me but it's one of the features I look for in a switch.

@marcogenovesi8570

6 ай бұрын

@@Darkk6969 as I said management and configuration works with the dongle so for 99% of the job you can get by if you have to. For "recovery" I mean actual recovery, so ROuterOS does not boot or something like that. Imho on a serious managed switch the lack of serial console is offensive and very close to be a deal breaker. Having to use the same USB port "method" that I use for their modems is kind of meh

@timschonherr7674

6 ай бұрын

Yea the missing dedicated console port and especially the powercord. position is a dealbreaker for me.

I'll wait for the PoE version of this switch for the RB5009 and a couple of hap ax3s that I already have. :)

grabbed one for ~$170 USD here in canada, look for better prices if you have a local distributor

@ServeTheHomeVideo

5 ай бұрын

Nice!

This may be the perfect switch for me. 2 10Gbe and 8 2.5gbe covers my needs well. Would need to move to a new AP as my link says wrt3200 has great router functionality but the Wi-Fi sucks. Adequate but would be better to upgrade all my network infrastructure at once.

@level80888

6 ай бұрын

Wifi6E limit is 9gbe, and Wifi7 approx 46mbit - how 2.5Gbe will help you?

7:19 seeing all of the cap footprints makes me think that it will be something with poe

If I was ready to switch to 2.5 GbE, this MikroTik seems like a relatively tempting option. Maybe if I upgrade my NAS and my WiFi AP this would make sense.

Actually its a Desktop Cloud Router / Switch, but you wouldn't use it as a router due to routing is rather bad, as for the switching overall throughput the CSS326-24G-2S+RM is faster. But if you are wanting the 2.5Gbit ports then yeah this might be better.

Awesome. Is this rackmountable?

@marcogenovesi8570

6 ай бұрын

it comes with rack ears or you can get the "RMK-2/10" adapter that lets you make a single 1U rack with two of these

@scienceontheright

6 ай бұрын

@@marcogenovesi8570 Thank you!

I needed something with POE so went with the Ubiquiti Enterprise 8 PoE USW-Enterprise-8-PoE (120W) instead!

Not Ideal but I'd use the slots above the power port to cable tie the dc cable as some level of prevention.

If you know Mikrotik's naming scheme, and look at the silkscreen on the PCB, it's clear that this switch was designed to get a PoE version called CRS310-8P+2S+IN, that's why it says CRS310-8x+2S+ on the PCB.

The unpopulated components on the circuit board looks like power management so a PoE version might not be far off.

I always get link down and link up at 10G speed on the SFP+ port with Mikrotik DAC cable. The LAN port of another device became 100M half duplex. Bad series?

@ServeTheHomeVideo

5 ай бұрын

Very strange. We did 100TB of data transfer through the SFP+ ports last week.

Can you confirm this bug with this switch? An Intel X550-T2 can only automatically connect to the switch with 1 GbE, using the latest ethernet adapter firmware and drivers from Intel’s ethernet software package 28.2.1. Only when forcing the connection to 2.5 GbE manually on both ends it then works. Using RouterOS 7.12.

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

Need to find a X550-T2 in the boxes that the studio is still in :-/ We have tried other Intel NICs (X710-T2L?) and Marvell Aquantia NICs at 2.5GbE speeds on this.

@abavariannormiepleb9470

6 ай бұрын

2.5 GbE also works fine automatically with the I225-V, it’s only the X550-T2 I’ve encountered that issue with. (It works fine with the same cables and a different switch with 10 GbE)

@bastian433

6 ай бұрын

That's caused by the Intel card, it sort of has half support for Nbase-T but not fully.

oh god, i did not know about the randomized password. this is going to be a nightmare in the future when managing customer edge devices.

Hi, please a quick question, what switch do you recommend to work with RB5009: CRS326-24G-2S+RM or CRS310-8G+2S-IN? I have 2Gbps upload and download speed connexion.

Can this "dial up" PPPoE with VLAN tag? Thanks. I am searching for the cheapest (working) router or switch to connect to my ISP (2/1gbps) and I would need at minimum 2x 2.5GB LAN ports. I either need a device that can do the dialup + switch, or one device combining both.

@gompie71

5 ай бұрын

RB5009 is what you want?

The fan is to cool the sfp+ to 10gbase-T adapters. If they didn’t there would be lots of problems.

@brodriguez11000

6 ай бұрын

Borrow the cooling design from motherboards.

According to a german Amazon review the fan in his switch seems to be very loud. Hopefully it is not a general issue. I guess workaround would be to buy a silent fan from another vendor. Lets hope for a passive cooled Rev2 edition. 🙂

@level80888

6 ай бұрын

the remedy already published in this thread yesterday. No need to flip the fan.

The internal sticker is probably there because mikrotik often sells their routers naked as well.

Now Mikrotik, Give me a Poe++ version of this exact switch.

@ServeTheHomeVideo

5 ай бұрын

Agreed

The only downside of it is it's loud even with just two 2.5Gbe ports connected - not a bench/quiet office switch :(

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

It is sitting on my desk right now with five 2.5GbE ports connected to mini PCs, one to another 2.5GbE unmanaged switch, a SFP+ to a workstation and a 10Gbase-T to SFP+ adapter and it is nearly silent. If I push all ports it will get loud, but at idle it is not that simple.

@etimacias

6 ай бұрын

​@@ServeTheHomeVideo I have two of those and both start spinning the fan even when I only have 10Gb port (SFP+ WDM module) and one or two 2.5Gb ports connected to my PC/NAS/10G switch. I found that a lot depends on ambient airflow and temperature. I had to add a fan in my rack or 12mm blowing directly at the case to keep it at fan speed=0 Also - can you confirm in System->Health that your fan is not spinning?

@abavariannormiepleb9470

6 ай бұрын

I just posted a comment about adjusting the integrated fan speed control under System > Health, increase the minimum fan speed from 0 % to 15 %, still quiet but prevents the annoying ramping up of the fan because the heat doesn’t build up in the switch.

@etimacias

6 ай бұрын

@@abavariannormiepleb9470 Interesting! Will give it a go!

I'd love to see 8x 2.5G + 2x sfp+ in a rb5009 case (with PoE IN, and a full 8x PoE out version)

@ServeTheHomeVideo

4 ай бұрын

I think it would need a new chip to be cooled in that form factor

Interesting 👍 Close to QNAP QSW-M408-2C. I will compare them :)

LRF support confirmed!

I would like yo have seen this be a lev 3 switch with pppe forwarding allowing work from home and family to share a single source but meet business requirements on secure premises connection, and a second gen model 16 port that can do higher output for Poe++ for higher output wifi points , telephones and small business offices zones, nas aggregated where 8 port isn’t enough

I wonder if the extra parts will make this a PoE Switch, which would be sweet.

@cl4998

6 ай бұрын

That's usually what mikrotik does, they release a new model, then following that they release a poe version.

@marcogenovesi8570

6 ай бұрын

that's what they usually do

does the MikroTik CRS310-8G+2S+in function as a router or just a switch? I'm looking to upgrade my network to 2.5 from my basic modem and eero wifi with 1gb backhaul. Just trying to figure out what hardware I'll need. Appreciate any guidance!

3 ай бұрын

While its primary function is switching, it is capable of NAT routing at an average rate of 200 Mbps (50 kpps). Rather, consider using it as a switch and pairing it to a router/firewall, such as an RB5009, which is at least 15 times faster.

POE reserved option for the unpopulated components?

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

No idea yet. Time will tell.

competition is good hope to see more products especially unmanaged to enter the market and lower the price MORE. 🤔

@ServeTheHomeVideo

6 ай бұрын

We have looked at dozens of cheap unmanaged 2.5GbE switches this year

Damnit Patrick, now I have to decide between 10GBase-T unmanaged switch or something like this. I'm moving my network stack to a dedicated UPS down in the basement, along with my NAS/HomeLab gear so I need to grab another switch to connect the upstairs office to the "Basement Tech Hub" where my Comcast comes into the house. I see the MicroTik branded 10GBaseT transceivers are running $50-$60 online, will any brand work? Trying to mull total buy in cost. My gut says go cheap and just get unmanaged, but my inner nerd wants to break stuff.

@level80888

6 ай бұрын

dont waste your time: new 16 port qnap (8xrj45 10gbe + 8xSFP+) for $600 managed ($550 unmanaged) has much better value.

@FrenziedManbeast

6 ай бұрын

@@level80888 That's a sexy looking piece of tech, thanks for the link.

be lucky also of the older high end switches sound like Jets