“You have to get use to the Honda transmission”. lol Man I’m old. I remember when we were “getting use” to CVTs in the 90s. I still hate them. Just feels less connected to the engine torque and feel.
@doncahill194Күн бұрын
Thank you. Intelligent and thorough stuff.
@thesillyquestionsКүн бұрын
The propane tried and true always pull through king quad baby.
@ronlawson5819Күн бұрын
Please do more with these two machines
@ronlawson5819Күн бұрын
Too funny I bought a KLX 300R my self…..to go on the garage with my 22 Renegade 850 XXC
@Deee7243 күн бұрын
Yamaha grizzly
@motormouth24725 күн бұрын
My dad bought a brand new Raptor this past March. I've ridden a Sportsman 850, Honda 350X, and my own Yamaha 225DX (similar to the Moto 4 mentioned in video). The Raptor is 100% the most fun ATV I've ever ridden. My dad and I usually ride on the trails and roads of Tug Hill here in NYS, and the raptor is awesome. It'll do 50 mph in the snap of a finger
@DirtObseXXionКүн бұрын
The Raptor is great 👍 I agree, most fun I've ever had on a 4wheeler!
@XVENDETTA1006 күн бұрын
Is there any difference in manual, about oil change interval ?
@Ruckus-AZ6 күн бұрын
Great video! Agree totally!
@JoeCole126 күн бұрын
I’m probably going to buy one of these. I used to be an intermediate racer but now at 59 yrs I just want to poke around. At 230lbs I’m concerned after I stiffen up the CRF it will be taller than the KLX because the CRF sags an extreme amount in stock form..?
@DirtObseXXion6 күн бұрын
We think the CRF feels taller than the KLX anyway.. The pegs are certainly higher, so standing makes it feel taller even though seat heights are similar. You're probably right about the suspension too of course.. But with your experience I wouldn't necessarily think it would be an overly concerning difference.. I can say that a 250l feels considerable lower than both of these, but it does sacrifice some power
@henriquesf307 күн бұрын
Top 10??? Only see 9. Whats the 10th?
@DirtObseXXion7 күн бұрын
10ish
@WhatsThePoint017 күн бұрын
I wished I live closer to trails like this 😭
@DirtObseXXion6 күн бұрын
Me too! It's a 2 and 1/2 drive from decent riding areas like this for me.. I know it could be worse tho!
@Panhandlefarmer19998 күн бұрын
Honda👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
@Panhandlefarmer19998 күн бұрын
Team honda 👇
@ryanc79298 күн бұрын
Awesome video!
@BackfireEmpire9 күн бұрын
Just got one yesterday for 800
@DirtObseXXion9 күн бұрын
Nice!
@Deee7249 күн бұрын
Cfmoto and Polaris and can am is better than all of
@ghost489910 күн бұрын
You four got Honda fourtrax 300
@Sully_02411 күн бұрын
I've got a grizzly 700, I got it brand new, and since then I've put 15,000 hard kilometers on it, and it's been rolled and pinned under a tree in a tornado, I've never had to do nothing besides some bushings, brakes, and oil changes, and she still runs great, I will never ever tell anyone to buy anything else, not to mention my grandfather has a Kodiak 450 with 25,000 km on it, still runs but not in the best shape
@KentwoodWarrior11 күн бұрын
Let’s get a part 2! Or a WR250R comparison with them as well!
@milenko80111 күн бұрын
If dont do not like power and torque then yeah go for the Honda.
@aaronbenns905112 күн бұрын
Sport quads are more exciting i mean unless you like putting around in a lazyboy chair through the woods and they can get through a lot more terrain then most people think changing gears is great fun i think i would get bored with no gears to rip through getting stuck in mud holes is to much like work id rather spend my time riding
@mikemiller934613 күн бұрын
I have a 2022 800xc I absolutely love it 6000km on it and I've done nothing but changed the oils. I would buy another one in a hart beat.
@DirtbikerG6313 күн бұрын
I’m looking at getting a 450 but don’t know whether to get the ds450, the trx450er, or a ltr450. What do you recommend
@DirtObseXXion12 күн бұрын
The trx450 is going have by far the best aftermarket support.. I prefer the ltr450 but they can be finicky and the 09s and up had transmission issues.. I wouldn't get a ds450 unless it was mint and fairly cheap.. They were good machines but there wasn't a ton of them so parts would be hard to find..
@d.l.horton209313 күн бұрын
I bought the king quad. I couldn't afford even a parts grizzly. Cost is important to poor people like me. I would like to snub my nose at cost one day but that is 2nd to what I need.
@DirtObseXXion12 күн бұрын
Kingquad is a great machine, it should be a blast!
@RK777PL13 күн бұрын
Please let me know if this is reliable it seems like everybody has electrical issues with her Can-Am ATVs what the hell is going on I have a Yamaha I have no issues but I'm 46 years old with the raptor and I look kind of stupid on a trail I'm also exhausted after a 3 and 1/2 hour ride.I want something that's for real drive but also like four wheel drive please let me know if this is a good solution for me I need reliability we go far with my kids and wife and friends.
@DirtObseXXion12 күн бұрын
I haven't seen a ton of these in the wild.. No powersteering on a machine this heavy is a deal-breaker for me.. I've personally never had a problem with canams.. I'd recommend looking at the Outlander 700 over this though
@m8sandman14 күн бұрын
CF Moto has proven to be the biggest pos on the market. Too bad cause they make some of the nicest looking machines.
@GOATED_HCR215 күн бұрын
Cfmotos are trash
@user-vj1es1ce4u15 күн бұрын
Here's the more accurate list. 1.)Honda 2.)Yamaha 3.) Suzuki 4.)kawasaki 5.)can-am 6.) Polaris 7.) Cf-moto 8.) Any other chinese crap
@jamesbecker57815 күн бұрын
Outstanding video. I bought a 2024 KLX and it is everything you described. I chose it over the Honda due to the suspension, and am convinced that it is the best dual purpose bike ever.
@DirtObseXXion14 күн бұрын
Congratulations brother! We were just out riding these things today, dual sports are the best!
@LymezoidMusic16 күн бұрын
Beautiful ATV. Randomly stumbled upon your channel earlier today, and I've been hooked since. I recently got myself an '86 Moto 4 225CC with both front and rear suspension (and the different headlight setup, more similar to sub-modern late 90s-early 00s quads with the two rectangular halogen capsules). She was originally blue, but her previous owner painted her a beautiful olive green. Little to no rust anywhere with a working speedometer, trip meter, and lights. All that I'd ever need. Thank you for making such an amazing retro review on this underrated gem of an ATV platform. Just getting into the hobby as a 16 y/o and it feels nice to see my very own (or similar) ATV depicted in appreciative and nostalgic videos such as these. :)
@DirtObseXXion14 күн бұрын
Thanks brother! Love seeing a younger fella with a taste for the classics.. I got my first wheeler when I was 16 too.. It was a clapped out Warrior 350.. I loved it!
@graemefolks942016 күн бұрын
In the griz vs KQ video you mentioned when you contacted yamaha they said they didn't re clutch for the 27" tires yet in this video they say they did? Just hoping for some clarity around an XTR with the zillas vs the base griz on 26s
@DirtObseXXion16 күн бұрын
So Pat did say that they lowered the gear ratio for the tires, but I was told when we did the comparison that the gear ratio was the same on both models.. Im assuming that when the gear ratio was changed in 2019, which coincided with the first SE model that had the Zillas, and also the return to the Yamaha 686cc motor, was that all Grizzlies have the lowered gearing.. In our comparison we put 25s on a XTR and it felt identical to the base model with 26s.. So if they are different it's negligible.. Probably because the Zillas really aren't very heavy for how aggressive they are
@graemefolks942015 күн бұрын
@@DirtObseXXion ahh gotcha! Thanks for the insight 🤘
@Scott-w4v17 күн бұрын
Pleases do a review on the argo 700 le quad.😂
@DirtObseXXion16 күн бұрын
I tried, Argo said they don't do media units in the US.
@Scott-w4v16 күн бұрын
@DirtObseXXion ok thanks. I live here in Ontario Canada. Love your content keep up the great work. 👍
@DirtObseXXion14 күн бұрын
@@Scott-w4v Thanks!
@Scott-w4v17 күн бұрын
Can you pleases do a review on the 700 ARGO le.
@IdahoEagle7717 күн бұрын
I just watched a video from a guy who went into detail as to how horrible the Polaris 450 is. Things breaking like crazy.
@ralphllivrah955117 күн бұрын
If you can’t decide what you want,then nobody can help you.
@p0weraid18 күн бұрын
Have a 2008 brute force 750 and looking yo upgrade to a grizzly or king quad with EPS im leaning to words the king quad
@ralphllivrah955118 күн бұрын
Why can’t anyone see the market for a big bore 2wd sport quad with auto clutch or cut option?
@DirtObseXXion18 күн бұрын
Well we've seen that with the KFX700 and it was super cool.. But even in the peak of the sportquad Era it didn't sell very well.
@sebastianlada910219 күн бұрын
I rented a cfmoto 520 in greece for a few hours and i was really happy, it had 48,000 km and the owner said he will die before the quad dies hahaha guy was only 45 years old 🤣 I want one now 🎉
@ralphllivrah955119 күн бұрын
Buying from China,nuts. Can’t even make a decent drill.
@foskco8719 күн бұрын
It sounds like the issue has everything to do with the type of wreckless idiots that choose to use side by sides rather than the actual vehicles themselves.
@aknmtbr20 күн бұрын
I just went on a ride with a bunch of wheelers while I was on my Honda dual sport. There were tons of Polarises and half them were overheating so bad they had to get towed out by my buddy’s Hondas and Yamahas.
@DirtObseXXion19 күн бұрын
Sounds about right.. Im all about the dual sport life now too
@TheObsessiveGardener21 күн бұрын
Is there a way to make the vibration of the crf less...vibratey?
@DirtObseXXion21 күн бұрын
I'm sure you could find an anti-vibe bar clamp or something.. But for proper context, we didn't really notice the vibrations very much until after riding the KLX.. So by comparison it vibrates more but it's not something I'd spend money on trying to fix...Do you already have a CRF?
@TheObsessiveGardener21 күн бұрын
@DirtObseXXion no I don't. I used to want a klx but I thought it was taller than the crf. So I started focusing more closely on the crf. I'm 5'8". Planning on buying possibly by next summer.
@DirtObseXXion20 күн бұрын
@TheObsessiveGardener Sweet.. Yeah you really can't go wrong either way. Don't let the vibration comment scare you.. It's really not a problem, just an observation.. Ride a Harley sometime and you'll experience extreme vibrations 🤣
@dblades822825 күн бұрын
have rode quads my whole life once i got a sxs im never going back to a quad again
@chrislobb93625 күн бұрын
Now I know what the up dated Brute looks like. I like the old Brute more.
@drawncept839127 күн бұрын
Dude, I love this! So nostalgic! Everything you said is spot on. Now we have things with more horses than a Texan ranch, weighs more than a single-wide trailer, has more gadgets than a plutonium farm, and costs slightly south of an original Leonardo. Yet, smiles per gallon is unequal. There is something to be said about a ride that wants to kill you every time you put your leg over the seat. The old Honda 125 that didn't have shocks is a great example; it's only 3 mph off from probably being the worlds most notorious serial killer. Anyway, keep up the awesome vids. I often wait a few months just so I can binge your channel. Cheers from KY.
@DirtObseXXion27 күн бұрын
Lol! Awesome comment, thanks brother!
@GOATED_HCR227 күн бұрын
Honda all day for sure
@mukhanglarochannel477428 күн бұрын
No one beats Honda's reliability. This is not for a drag race. It's a trail ride and I just trust the most reliable of them all. If Honda can come out with a better version of Rincon, more mainstream, then it's over for other atvs.lols
@djs_projects_repairs28 күн бұрын
I like riding old shit too
@Misteryez29 күн бұрын
Fuel consumption is directly proportional two engine life
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“You have to get use to the Honda transmission”. lol Man I’m old. I remember when we were “getting use” to CVTs in the 90s. I still hate them. Just feels less connected to the engine torque and feel.
Thank you. Intelligent and thorough stuff.
The propane tried and true always pull through king quad baby.
Please do more with these two machines
Too funny I bought a KLX 300R my self…..to go on the garage with my 22 Renegade 850 XXC
Yamaha grizzly
My dad bought a brand new Raptor this past March. I've ridden a Sportsman 850, Honda 350X, and my own Yamaha 225DX (similar to the Moto 4 mentioned in video). The Raptor is 100% the most fun ATV I've ever ridden. My dad and I usually ride on the trails and roads of Tug Hill here in NYS, and the raptor is awesome. It'll do 50 mph in the snap of a finger
The Raptor is great 👍 I agree, most fun I've ever had on a 4wheeler!
Is there any difference in manual, about oil change interval ?
Great video! Agree totally!
I’m probably going to buy one of these. I used to be an intermediate racer but now at 59 yrs I just want to poke around. At 230lbs I’m concerned after I stiffen up the CRF it will be taller than the KLX because the CRF sags an extreme amount in stock form..?
We think the CRF feels taller than the KLX anyway.. The pegs are certainly higher, so standing makes it feel taller even though seat heights are similar. You're probably right about the suspension too of course.. But with your experience I wouldn't necessarily think it would be an overly concerning difference.. I can say that a 250l feels considerable lower than both of these, but it does sacrifice some power
Top 10??? Only see 9. Whats the 10th?
10ish
I wished I live closer to trails like this 😭
Me too! It's a 2 and 1/2 drive from decent riding areas like this for me.. I know it could be worse tho!
Honda👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
Team honda 👇
Awesome video!
Just got one yesterday for 800
Nice!
Cfmoto and Polaris and can am is better than all of
You four got Honda fourtrax 300
I've got a grizzly 700, I got it brand new, and since then I've put 15,000 hard kilometers on it, and it's been rolled and pinned under a tree in a tornado, I've never had to do nothing besides some bushings, brakes, and oil changes, and she still runs great, I will never ever tell anyone to buy anything else, not to mention my grandfather has a Kodiak 450 with 25,000 km on it, still runs but not in the best shape
Let’s get a part 2! Or a WR250R comparison with them as well!
If dont do not like power and torque then yeah go for the Honda.
Sport quads are more exciting i mean unless you like putting around in a lazyboy chair through the woods and they can get through a lot more terrain then most people think changing gears is great fun i think i would get bored with no gears to rip through getting stuck in mud holes is to much like work id rather spend my time riding
I have a 2022 800xc I absolutely love it 6000km on it and I've done nothing but changed the oils. I would buy another one in a hart beat.
I’m looking at getting a 450 but don’t know whether to get the ds450, the trx450er, or a ltr450. What do you recommend
The trx450 is going have by far the best aftermarket support.. I prefer the ltr450 but they can be finicky and the 09s and up had transmission issues.. I wouldn't get a ds450 unless it was mint and fairly cheap.. They were good machines but there wasn't a ton of them so parts would be hard to find..
I bought the king quad. I couldn't afford even a parts grizzly. Cost is important to poor people like me. I would like to snub my nose at cost one day but that is 2nd to what I need.
Kingquad is a great machine, it should be a blast!
Please let me know if this is reliable it seems like everybody has electrical issues with her Can-Am ATVs what the hell is going on I have a Yamaha I have no issues but I'm 46 years old with the raptor and I look kind of stupid on a trail I'm also exhausted after a 3 and 1/2 hour ride.I want something that's for real drive but also like four wheel drive please let me know if this is a good solution for me I need reliability we go far with my kids and wife and friends.
I haven't seen a ton of these in the wild.. No powersteering on a machine this heavy is a deal-breaker for me.. I've personally never had a problem with canams.. I'd recommend looking at the Outlander 700 over this though
CF Moto has proven to be the biggest pos on the market. Too bad cause they make some of the nicest looking machines.
Cfmotos are trash
Here's the more accurate list. 1.)Honda 2.)Yamaha 3.) Suzuki 4.)kawasaki 5.)can-am 6.) Polaris 7.) Cf-moto 8.) Any other chinese crap
Outstanding video. I bought a 2024 KLX and it is everything you described. I chose it over the Honda due to the suspension, and am convinced that it is the best dual purpose bike ever.
Congratulations brother! We were just out riding these things today, dual sports are the best!
Beautiful ATV. Randomly stumbled upon your channel earlier today, and I've been hooked since. I recently got myself an '86 Moto 4 225CC with both front and rear suspension (and the different headlight setup, more similar to sub-modern late 90s-early 00s quads with the two rectangular halogen capsules). She was originally blue, but her previous owner painted her a beautiful olive green. Little to no rust anywhere with a working speedometer, trip meter, and lights. All that I'd ever need. Thank you for making such an amazing retro review on this underrated gem of an ATV platform. Just getting into the hobby as a 16 y/o and it feels nice to see my very own (or similar) ATV depicted in appreciative and nostalgic videos such as these. :)
Thanks brother! Love seeing a younger fella with a taste for the classics.. I got my first wheeler when I was 16 too.. It was a clapped out Warrior 350.. I loved it!
In the griz vs KQ video you mentioned when you contacted yamaha they said they didn't re clutch for the 27" tires yet in this video they say they did? Just hoping for some clarity around an XTR with the zillas vs the base griz on 26s
So Pat did say that they lowered the gear ratio for the tires, but I was told when we did the comparison that the gear ratio was the same on both models.. Im assuming that when the gear ratio was changed in 2019, which coincided with the first SE model that had the Zillas, and also the return to the Yamaha 686cc motor, was that all Grizzlies have the lowered gearing.. In our comparison we put 25s on a XTR and it felt identical to the base model with 26s.. So if they are different it's negligible.. Probably because the Zillas really aren't very heavy for how aggressive they are
@@DirtObseXXion ahh gotcha! Thanks for the insight 🤘
Pleases do a review on the argo 700 le quad.😂
I tried, Argo said they don't do media units in the US.
@DirtObseXXion ok thanks. I live here in Ontario Canada. Love your content keep up the great work. 👍
@@Scott-w4v Thanks!
Can you pleases do a review on the 700 ARGO le.
I just watched a video from a guy who went into detail as to how horrible the Polaris 450 is. Things breaking like crazy.
If you can’t decide what you want,then nobody can help you.
Have a 2008 brute force 750 and looking yo upgrade to a grizzly or king quad with EPS im leaning to words the king quad
Why can’t anyone see the market for a big bore 2wd sport quad with auto clutch or cut option?
Well we've seen that with the KFX700 and it was super cool.. But even in the peak of the sportquad Era it didn't sell very well.
I rented a cfmoto 520 in greece for a few hours and i was really happy, it had 48,000 km and the owner said he will die before the quad dies hahaha guy was only 45 years old 🤣 I want one now 🎉
Buying from China,nuts. Can’t even make a decent drill.
It sounds like the issue has everything to do with the type of wreckless idiots that choose to use side by sides rather than the actual vehicles themselves.
I just went on a ride with a bunch of wheelers while I was on my Honda dual sport. There were tons of Polarises and half them were overheating so bad they had to get towed out by my buddy’s Hondas and Yamahas.
Sounds about right.. Im all about the dual sport life now too
Is there a way to make the vibration of the crf less...vibratey?
I'm sure you could find an anti-vibe bar clamp or something.. But for proper context, we didn't really notice the vibrations very much until after riding the KLX.. So by comparison it vibrates more but it's not something I'd spend money on trying to fix...Do you already have a CRF?
@DirtObseXXion no I don't. I used to want a klx but I thought it was taller than the crf. So I started focusing more closely on the crf. I'm 5'8". Planning on buying possibly by next summer.
@TheObsessiveGardener Sweet.. Yeah you really can't go wrong either way. Don't let the vibration comment scare you.. It's really not a problem, just an observation.. Ride a Harley sometime and you'll experience extreme vibrations 🤣
have rode quads my whole life once i got a sxs im never going back to a quad again
Now I know what the up dated Brute looks like. I like the old Brute more.
Dude, I love this! So nostalgic! Everything you said is spot on. Now we have things with more horses than a Texan ranch, weighs more than a single-wide trailer, has more gadgets than a plutonium farm, and costs slightly south of an original Leonardo. Yet, smiles per gallon is unequal. There is something to be said about a ride that wants to kill you every time you put your leg over the seat. The old Honda 125 that didn't have shocks is a great example; it's only 3 mph off from probably being the worlds most notorious serial killer. Anyway, keep up the awesome vids. I often wait a few months just so I can binge your channel. Cheers from KY.
Lol! Awesome comment, thanks brother!
Honda all day for sure
No one beats Honda's reliability. This is not for a drag race. It's a trail ride and I just trust the most reliable of them all. If Honda can come out with a better version of Rincon, more mainstream, then it's over for other atvs.lols
I like riding old shit too
Fuel consumption is directly proportional two engine life