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This detecting lies trhough microexpressions is a little bit overstated it's not a reliable way to say someone is lying...
@LordNerfherderСағат бұрын
I had to pay a fine for 3 months cost (30€ for me) but i can only keep the product for half a month. Absolutely disgusting attitude against longterm customers.
@LordNerfherderСағат бұрын
Absolutely disgusting attitude by adobe. Cancellationfees on monthly subscriptions and adobe attempting to use my work amd watch my private photos is absolutely unacceptable. Any pronor semiprofessional photographer should understand that it is a gross breach of most contracts to have product, modelling or boudoir photography shared with a third party where they can freely use amd watch that content. And even worse when it comes to photos of my girlfriend or nude photography. Absolutely unacceptable. I unsubscribed and suggest all to do thte same. This monopoly is power was grossly misused and we must show them that this is not okay. This was done without my knowledge. I never noticed this until after the drama started. And i was hit hard ny this. It hurts. I have had real clients shared with adobe and private stuff too.
@Skathacat0r3 сағат бұрын
Just watched a Photoshop ad.
@chazcmeekins837 сағат бұрын
I GOT AN ADODE ADVERTISEMENT ON THIS VIDEO LMAOOOOO!!!!!!
@kejhara7 сағат бұрын
Dude' gets what Adobe intended to say compared to the rest of the people who doesn't know what they are talking about.
@canadianbacon54889 сағат бұрын
Adobe is NOT transparent with their subscription model. Had I known that I would have to pay a massive cancellation fee, I never would have signed up to their subscription model for Adobe Premiere Pro. I just wanted to try the product for some personal projects. I ended up paying through the nose, including a final $110 CAD cancellation fee. I would never recommend anyone do business with this predatory company.
@Estateandassetsmaster11 сағат бұрын
I learned so much from your presentation. Valuable information. I am interested in a headshot for my digital business. Can you recommend someone in NYC? Thank you
@Mohandas.Gandhi15 сағат бұрын
More people need to be aware of this
@skyjelly979016 сағат бұрын
Where was all the backlash when they murdered Flash in cold blood?
@sammyall909117 сағат бұрын
Cancellation fee??? Wtf I'm so glad I use affinity.. but I hate the no free updates thing.. if I wanted the newer features I have to pay 25/40$ again... dumb but it beats a monthly subscription
@tori27619 сағат бұрын
There's your problem right there! You have lots of experience. I've 27+ years experience of UX Design and Graphic Design - the current working world doesn't care about your experience, they want sheeples in roles. You being passionate about good design and business actually gets in the way of their progress.
@fecklesstech929Күн бұрын
Yo Kevin--what an interesting video! I got so interested in your methods & insights I almost lost the main thread. You really do have creative ways of dissecting an issue. Your analysis seems like equal parts semantics, linguistics, and psychology. I lack your education and nuance, so I tend to focus on simpler, more tangible behaviors. "Dark Patterns", for example, provide insight into company culture. The slimy practice of making it easy to subscribe, but very difficult to unsubscribe, isn't nuanced at all: it is contempt for customers driven by shameless, unbridled greed. Adobe views their customers as idiot peons to be fleeced--bugs beneath their feet. When a business traps customers in this manner I immediately envision Scrooge McDuck, swimming happily in a pool of gold coins. I use Adobe at work, just for documents, because they provide it for free and because I have no choice. At home I use anything but--mostly open source software. My simple, untrained mind has Adobe's number loud & clear--they are a den of greedy, larcenous, double-talking con-artists. They will never get a penny out of me. You, on the other hand, have won another sub. Cheers!
@JoseEncarnacaoКүн бұрын
2:51 The proof that other people are not talking about.
@REZZA2020Күн бұрын
YES! they got done for Dark Patterning. I went off at them. Exploitative ratbags!
@natrixКүн бұрын
Time to dump Adobe
@Ed-yj8tsКүн бұрын
Irony. The KZread ad at 15 minutes was for Adobe Stock.
@Scarlett.RКүн бұрын
Dear Adobe, opt out means opt out. Goodbye Adobe.
@BillAngelosКүн бұрын
it'll be interesting to see what comes out in discovery as they get sued by their customers regarding the training ai software.
@pryles20002 күн бұрын
Well done video Sir.
@Bareego2 күн бұрын
Wow, I think a lot of people missed this auto turned on option for ai models, that's even worse than what I've seen already. Thanks for catching this. That said, all of Adobe's videos to react to this situation have been full of gaslighting and condescension. And at the end you even said this is not about ownership, and technically this is true. But Adobe gives themselves licence to do pretty much anything they want that's on their cloud servers, that you work on, and even what you import. I'm not sure you understand how far reaching their licence rights are. If they have global, never ending non revocable licences to your work what's the difference in this an owning it. And no I didn't hear it from someone, I'm quite literate and know how to read licence term. So your comments at the end I found very patronizing.
@jakejoyride2 күн бұрын
it's hilarious Adobe just stole ip of all of their users and for example if you are photographing people Adobe stole your models faces this is biggest ip theft in history!
@Shamazya2 күн бұрын
Adobe has deserved to fall for a long time. Awful company.
@thepureheartofdark2 күн бұрын
It doesn't matter whether or not they own the work. That just highlights that they are giving themselves the right to freely use work not owned by them as if they own it, hence the framing "they basically owns YOUR work".
@PabloInformation2 күн бұрын
All real artist need to get together a class action law suit (targeting all these ai modeling platforms) >> who are training on copywritten material & or individuals IP / artwork. unless explicitly stated as otherwise by the IP holder.
@jpolish4202 күн бұрын
They can train on my content for a monthly fee.😂
@spamsponge2 күн бұрын
Dark Patterns began with the subscription-only model. And good luck trying to legitimately buy old software after new shenanigans presents itself.
@rvierra72352 күн бұрын
Adobe can kiss my ass. I will NEVER use Adobe again ever. BOYCOTT Adobe FOREVER.
@JoannaMalak3 күн бұрын
In my opinion, the only way out of this situation is a real alternative to Adobe. Not Gimp, not Affinity etc. We need software that really offers a high professional level. And we don't see that yet. So Adobe will continue to work like a monopolist :(. The biggest problem is Photoshop and InDesign. The other programs can be replaced in some way.
@AndreWhitbourn3 күн бұрын
Great video. Your experience shows and I learned something, thanks.
@juke96743 күн бұрын
Imagine opening explicit pictures in photoshop and suddendly its used for ai training
@pennoises49713 күн бұрын
The irony is that I got an adobe add on this video.
@SasisaPlays3 күн бұрын
You can continue using Adobe’s products, but for free, iykyk
@humberlick3 күн бұрын
I was a photo technician in the early 80's way before any Photoshop software ever existed. Today photo software is ok but nothing beats old-school ways.
@M1d.n1ght3 күн бұрын
Ah yes, it is time for p1racy. Let's see if they like everyone stealing their sh1t.
@facilde13 күн бұрын
This Jack black looking dude be spitting
@LeeHawkinsPhoto3 күн бұрын
Dude…I’m glad you had TikTok success…but I’m really surprised at how poorly you’ve grown on YT, because it should have been easier for you, and I think in the part it would have been. I’m glad I found your channel even if I don’t completely agree with your takes…you make sound arguments with evidence, and that’s what matters most to me, not agreement. Keep on keeping on 👍🏻 you remind me of how glad I am that I stopped shooting weddings back in my 30s! They’re fun…but exhausting.
@andyraeber60443 күн бұрын
For me, and many of my friends were out we will no longer being using Adobe and other that they offer.
@LeeHawkinsPhoto3 күн бұрын
I get that you can’t get some things outside Adobe software, but those of us who are stuck using their tools are definitely in an abusive relationship. I could easily walk away from Photoshop and never look back…however, I am stuck with Lightroom because I have invested so much time into the product to manage my library and it would take an enormous amount of time and effort to get out. So sadly, I relate that I’m staying in the abusive relationship right now for the kids. But as soon as I can get out safely and take my kids with me, I’m gone. I purposely avoided further entanglements with Adobe by using Affinity Designer and DaVinci Resolve. We ought to start a coop of photographers and pool our resources for a software company to develop something that takes out Lightroom. I’d gladly pay another $10 a month for it until the software is ready. And the fees would end when the software is done. I really need to look into CaptureOne.
@LeeHawkinsPhoto3 күн бұрын
I don’t think what you’re describing sounds a whole lot different from the scenario Rossmann described. No, what is being done does not create the acute level of trauma, but it _is_ the very same style of thinking employed by those who do. I think we live in such a horrible corporate dystopia today that we may not realize just how much we’ve lost, and how much we’ve been conditioned to accept it. Over time, as even more creatives lose their livelihoods and suffer poverty and the associated traumas that comes with it, what these corporations have been doing are most definitely violent acts…they are just committed so subtly that we don’t realize their hand in things until years later when we finally realize what happened. I don’t think Rossmann is wrong for drawing the parallel. What corporate power is doing to humanity is sociopathic.
@StudioBuilder3 күн бұрын
I don't think he's wrong, either, but you've just excellently proven that there is a much better way, and less triggering way, to speak about it.
@Beauty.and.FashionPhotographer3 күн бұрын
BETA Photoshop has this checked "on by default"..... just saw it.... what a sneaky criminal thing to do....
@StudioBuilder3 күн бұрын
Adobe has said that you cannot opt out if you are using Beta versions.
@Beauty.and.FashionPhotographer2 күн бұрын
@@StudioBuilder i uncheckecd it. maybe it will reactivate at each launch...
@ZeroDepresiv3 күн бұрын
Really good video from a communications perspective.
@StudioBuilder3 күн бұрын
I appreciate that!
@commonwealthcommunitywatch60363 күн бұрын
and they raised their prices for 2024...they are just asking to get boycotted.
@notv66753 күн бұрын
bro just trust your voice you don’t have to give ur whole history emperor calus
@StudioBuilder3 күн бұрын
If I didn't, there would be a lot more comments telling me why I'm not qualified to speak on the subject. Trust me on that.
@MohammadQattan19963 күн бұрын
Excuse my naivety! But why is it a problem if they use my content to train their ai?
@StudioBuilder3 күн бұрын
If it's not a problem for you, it's not a problem for you. For many of us, it is.
@AnthonyWoodruffe3 күн бұрын
My primary photography work is weddings and although I am granted permission to publish my clients images for Social Media, I too have strict rules as to what I will post. Sure Adobe are not going to use these images not uploaded to my adobe cloud account for Ai learning. But will for those stored in the cloud and any image I use Adobe’s Ai tools on. Of course the new T&Cs state they will not. I have no hesitation in believing they will. I firmly believe the Adobe’s intention is to fully integrate Ai into their apps and with a click of a button the image will be manipulated to how you want it or what it suggests should be done. Whether that’s generative fill, spot removal, dodge & burn or any other adjustment like DOF and focal point. That would mean every single image passed through Adobe’s software would be uploaded to their database either in the future or even now potentially. This is a company that couldn’t even keep our credit card details safe, I very much doubt they will keep imagery safe. I get the company wants to lock down their Ai from violent or sexual exploitation but passing the images to a human is opening the gates to similar possibilities, like when film developers would steal, duplicate and share customers film before digital photography put an end to it. I don’t trust Adobe one bit in carrying out their duty to protect my client’s identity, which is why my 20 year loyalty to the company ended this month.
@Ariento3 күн бұрын
Adobe doesn't use your work to train AI... yet. That's my takeaway anyway.
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This detecting lies trhough microexpressions is a little bit overstated it's not a reliable way to say someone is lying...
I had to pay a fine for 3 months cost (30€ for me) but i can only keep the product for half a month. Absolutely disgusting attitude against longterm customers.
Absolutely disgusting attitude by adobe. Cancellationfees on monthly subscriptions and adobe attempting to use my work amd watch my private photos is absolutely unacceptable. Any pronor semiprofessional photographer should understand that it is a gross breach of most contracts to have product, modelling or boudoir photography shared with a third party where they can freely use amd watch that content. And even worse when it comes to photos of my girlfriend or nude photography. Absolutely unacceptable. I unsubscribed and suggest all to do thte same. This monopoly is power was grossly misused and we must show them that this is not okay. This was done without my knowledge. I never noticed this until after the drama started. And i was hit hard ny this. It hurts. I have had real clients shared with adobe and private stuff too.
Just watched a Photoshop ad.
I GOT AN ADODE ADVERTISEMENT ON THIS VIDEO LMAOOOOO!!!!!!
Dude' gets what Adobe intended to say compared to the rest of the people who doesn't know what they are talking about.
Adobe is NOT transparent with their subscription model. Had I known that I would have to pay a massive cancellation fee, I never would have signed up to their subscription model for Adobe Premiere Pro. I just wanted to try the product for some personal projects. I ended up paying through the nose, including a final $110 CAD cancellation fee. I would never recommend anyone do business with this predatory company.
I learned so much from your presentation. Valuable information. I am interested in a headshot for my digital business. Can you recommend someone in NYC? Thank you
More people need to be aware of this
Where was all the backlash when they murdered Flash in cold blood?
Cancellation fee??? Wtf I'm so glad I use affinity.. but I hate the no free updates thing.. if I wanted the newer features I have to pay 25/40$ again... dumb but it beats a monthly subscription
There's your problem right there! You have lots of experience. I've 27+ years experience of UX Design and Graphic Design - the current working world doesn't care about your experience, they want sheeples in roles. You being passionate about good design and business actually gets in the way of their progress.
Yo Kevin--what an interesting video! I got so interested in your methods & insights I almost lost the main thread. You really do have creative ways of dissecting an issue. Your analysis seems like equal parts semantics, linguistics, and psychology. I lack your education and nuance, so I tend to focus on simpler, more tangible behaviors. "Dark Patterns", for example, provide insight into company culture. The slimy practice of making it easy to subscribe, but very difficult to unsubscribe, isn't nuanced at all: it is contempt for customers driven by shameless, unbridled greed. Adobe views their customers as idiot peons to be fleeced--bugs beneath their feet. When a business traps customers in this manner I immediately envision Scrooge McDuck, swimming happily in a pool of gold coins. I use Adobe at work, just for documents, because they provide it for free and because I have no choice. At home I use anything but--mostly open source software. My simple, untrained mind has Adobe's number loud & clear--they are a den of greedy, larcenous, double-talking con-artists. They will never get a penny out of me. You, on the other hand, have won another sub. Cheers!
2:51 The proof that other people are not talking about.
YES! they got done for Dark Patterning. I went off at them. Exploitative ratbags!
Time to dump Adobe
Irony. The KZread ad at 15 minutes was for Adobe Stock.
Dear Adobe, opt out means opt out. Goodbye Adobe.
it'll be interesting to see what comes out in discovery as they get sued by their customers regarding the training ai software.
Well done video Sir.
Wow, I think a lot of people missed this auto turned on option for ai models, that's even worse than what I've seen already. Thanks for catching this. That said, all of Adobe's videos to react to this situation have been full of gaslighting and condescension. And at the end you even said this is not about ownership, and technically this is true. But Adobe gives themselves licence to do pretty much anything they want that's on their cloud servers, that you work on, and even what you import. I'm not sure you understand how far reaching their licence rights are. If they have global, never ending non revocable licences to your work what's the difference in this an owning it. And no I didn't hear it from someone, I'm quite literate and know how to read licence term. So your comments at the end I found very patronizing.
it's hilarious Adobe just stole ip of all of their users and for example if you are photographing people Adobe stole your models faces this is biggest ip theft in history!
Adobe has deserved to fall for a long time. Awful company.
It doesn't matter whether or not they own the work. That just highlights that they are giving themselves the right to freely use work not owned by them as if they own it, hence the framing "they basically owns YOUR work".
All real artist need to get together a class action law suit (targeting all these ai modeling platforms) >> who are training on copywritten material & or individuals IP / artwork. unless explicitly stated as otherwise by the IP holder.
They can train on my content for a monthly fee.😂
Dark Patterns began with the subscription-only model. And good luck trying to legitimately buy old software after new shenanigans presents itself.
Adobe can kiss my ass. I will NEVER use Adobe again ever. BOYCOTT Adobe FOREVER.
In my opinion, the only way out of this situation is a real alternative to Adobe. Not Gimp, not Affinity etc. We need software that really offers a high professional level. And we don't see that yet. So Adobe will continue to work like a monopolist :(. The biggest problem is Photoshop and InDesign. The other programs can be replaced in some way.
Great video. Your experience shows and I learned something, thanks.
Imagine opening explicit pictures in photoshop and suddendly its used for ai training
The irony is that I got an adobe add on this video.
You can continue using Adobe’s products, but for free, iykyk
I was a photo technician in the early 80's way before any Photoshop software ever existed. Today photo software is ok but nothing beats old-school ways.
Ah yes, it is time for p1racy. Let's see if they like everyone stealing their sh1t.
This Jack black looking dude be spitting
Dude…I’m glad you had TikTok success…but I’m really surprised at how poorly you’ve grown on YT, because it should have been easier for you, and I think in the part it would have been. I’m glad I found your channel even if I don’t completely agree with your takes…you make sound arguments with evidence, and that’s what matters most to me, not agreement. Keep on keeping on 👍🏻 you remind me of how glad I am that I stopped shooting weddings back in my 30s! They’re fun…but exhausting.
For me, and many of my friends were out we will no longer being using Adobe and other that they offer.
I get that you can’t get some things outside Adobe software, but those of us who are stuck using their tools are definitely in an abusive relationship. I could easily walk away from Photoshop and never look back…however, I am stuck with Lightroom because I have invested so much time into the product to manage my library and it would take an enormous amount of time and effort to get out. So sadly, I relate that I’m staying in the abusive relationship right now for the kids. But as soon as I can get out safely and take my kids with me, I’m gone. I purposely avoided further entanglements with Adobe by using Affinity Designer and DaVinci Resolve. We ought to start a coop of photographers and pool our resources for a software company to develop something that takes out Lightroom. I’d gladly pay another $10 a month for it until the software is ready. And the fees would end when the software is done. I really need to look into CaptureOne.
I don’t think what you’re describing sounds a whole lot different from the scenario Rossmann described. No, what is being done does not create the acute level of trauma, but it _is_ the very same style of thinking employed by those who do. I think we live in such a horrible corporate dystopia today that we may not realize just how much we’ve lost, and how much we’ve been conditioned to accept it. Over time, as even more creatives lose their livelihoods and suffer poverty and the associated traumas that comes with it, what these corporations have been doing are most definitely violent acts…they are just committed so subtly that we don’t realize their hand in things until years later when we finally realize what happened. I don’t think Rossmann is wrong for drawing the parallel. What corporate power is doing to humanity is sociopathic.
I don't think he's wrong, either, but you've just excellently proven that there is a much better way, and less triggering way, to speak about it.
BETA Photoshop has this checked "on by default"..... just saw it.... what a sneaky criminal thing to do....
Adobe has said that you cannot opt out if you are using Beta versions.
@@StudioBuilder i uncheckecd it. maybe it will reactivate at each launch...
Really good video from a communications perspective.
I appreciate that!
and they raised their prices for 2024...they are just asking to get boycotted.
bro just trust your voice you don’t have to give ur whole history emperor calus
If I didn't, there would be a lot more comments telling me why I'm not qualified to speak on the subject. Trust me on that.
Excuse my naivety! But why is it a problem if they use my content to train their ai?
If it's not a problem for you, it's not a problem for you. For many of us, it is.
My primary photography work is weddings and although I am granted permission to publish my clients images for Social Media, I too have strict rules as to what I will post. Sure Adobe are not going to use these images not uploaded to my adobe cloud account for Ai learning. But will for those stored in the cloud and any image I use Adobe’s Ai tools on. Of course the new T&Cs state they will not. I have no hesitation in believing they will. I firmly believe the Adobe’s intention is to fully integrate Ai into their apps and with a click of a button the image will be manipulated to how you want it or what it suggests should be done. Whether that’s generative fill, spot removal, dodge & burn or any other adjustment like DOF and focal point. That would mean every single image passed through Adobe’s software would be uploaded to their database either in the future or even now potentially. This is a company that couldn’t even keep our credit card details safe, I very much doubt they will keep imagery safe. I get the company wants to lock down their Ai from violent or sexual exploitation but passing the images to a human is opening the gates to similar possibilities, like when film developers would steal, duplicate and share customers film before digital photography put an end to it. I don’t trust Adobe one bit in carrying out their duty to protect my client’s identity, which is why my 20 year loyalty to the company ended this month.
Adobe doesn't use your work to train AI... yet. That's my takeaway anyway.
Corporations under fire? Happy days for me! 🤸
Does anyone have anything better than Affinity?