So there's no evidence this expedition ever happened at all.
@leahcahoon698716 сағат бұрын
Aww it’s just heartbreaking. They all deserve to live on but the incredibly unpredictable nature of life is heartbreaking.
@cattymajiv2 күн бұрын
NEVER eat uncooked meat (even a little bit pink) or the internal organs or brain of any animal! That certainly contributed in a big way to their death!
@cattymajiv2 күн бұрын
Such astounding stupidity every step of the way! They would get fired from a McDonald's today! But they've provided me with tons of laughs. Lol!
@dteed62822 күн бұрын
For them all to suffer pulmonary edema at the same time is strange. They all had experienced the same conditions but they all had different biological features. It seems more like poisoning of the food or water supply.
@user-gm6qf1ph4n3 күн бұрын
12:47 - Like deers or bears have an anti-fog vision or something. Oh, and good luck smelling things at this much water in the air. Damn dogs couldn't pick up a scent of a guy lying in a ditch and those were trained!
@AnthonyPoutre3 күн бұрын
Ur podcast show sucks bro
@retrovibez11763 күн бұрын
Maybe it’s rabies?
@billywall77525 күн бұрын
So let me get this straight. Jon Krakauer, who stayed in his tent instead of helping, has criticized the man who went out in a blizzard, ON EVEREST, and saved multiple people? On an American can be so damn arrogant. If Anatoli was a "red, white and blue" American, Krakauer would not have said a word.
@alexanderpodcast6 күн бұрын
I've been there in 2019...though situation I passed there. But everything is destiny. Why? That's G-d accounts. I would hope the survivor (Koren) to recognize it, but no..."I was physically strong"...sure, and the others not?
@MadMax-bq6pg6 күн бұрын
I don’t think they would have survived with more (lots of things). They had not worked together long enough to develop any team mentality or even enough experience to shield themselves from the stress of “it’s cold and someone with more initiative expects me to start taking responsibility for myself”. The two who kept getting up to clear their own tent were setting a fabulous example. Many of the others however had not made the psychological shift from “someone is looking after me” to “I’m learning by experience what needs to be done & im taking responsibility to get it done”
@Kroggnagch7 күн бұрын
Hmm. Climb it during monsoon. Yknow, since youre doing the north face anyways... might as well.
@Kroggnagch7 күн бұрын
Huh... i fail to see the similarity between this event and the Dyatlov Pass Incident. Whatsoever. There was even a survivor found and they know precisely what happened and how it happened.
@Kroggnagch7 күн бұрын
Follow the smell in the warm season... might work.
@Kroggnagch7 күн бұрын
"We hope it gets harder and there are no tracks and we want no help. Oh, wait, is there anyone we can follow? Is anyone coming up?" Come on.
@Kroggnagch7 күн бұрын
Lmfao someone complained about there not being any girls on the climb? Dude, your mind is in the wrong place if thats what youre concerned with while climbing. Also, as someone who suffers from acute acid reflux, i absolutely understand the guy not being able to do as much with a serious case of hartburn. Sometimes, especially when trying to do physical activity, heartburn just saps your strength right from the core of your being. Anyone else out there who suffers from the debilitating factors of nasty heartburn understands this to be actually quite serious.
@Kroggnagch7 күн бұрын
Im pretty sure i saw the Khumbu Ice Falls in this presentation.. which, is weird because the Khumbu Ice Falls are on Everest between Base Camp and Camp 1, at least, i may be wrong about that precise location but i do know theyre on Everest, not Denali. There may be some similar looking spots tho and i am just confused.
@overstandself99547 күн бұрын
Your videos are amazing bra. May you keep on. There's nothing as golden as actually listening to someone's actual voice in videos ❤ One love brada
@overstandself99547 күн бұрын
Wow. This made me cry. What a beautiful thing that humans can do for each other ❤ God bless them, may they be a blessing to everyone they meet because they might have not been out ever again.
@dancingtrout67197 күн бұрын
whats a worse scenario.. they take parts from the plane & tell her we will be Back for you in a short while and have no intentions to do so
@dancingtrout67197 күн бұрын
One story of soviet in space they aske him on the transmission how is your food situation .. he replied what food
@dancingtrout67197 күн бұрын
When She was Found she said to her X Husband you probably Remarried By Now .. i thought that was a joke But Anna Meant what She Said .. o m g.... she needed to come too the U.S.A
@jmci53817 күн бұрын
Half witted
@tscully15047 күн бұрын
I loved hiking but rarely did it anywhere even close to real wilderness. About 3 times I'd gotten turned around and lost for a few hours even very close to roads. Hiking sounds easy and safe but it can turn bad surprizingly quickly. For that reason I am glad I never did try a really long trek. I'd probably have just ended up part of a tragic Burger King pass incident.
@n.c.8428 күн бұрын
I don't know much about diving, but I don't understand why Dave tried to put Deon's body in a bag or why he didn't take more air with him. I also don't understand why we can't just send small drones down there. We have ROVs that can go to the bottom of the ocean.
@Rod-dg7fy9 күн бұрын
Wow, nice slow talking with interestingly weird inflections. Have a pot of coffee. These videos are at least three times longer than they have to be.
@boathousejoed11269 күн бұрын
Why weren't these guys in Vietnam?
@cluideman10 күн бұрын
You were doing fine until you mentioned aliens
@dxux467910 күн бұрын
Would you please repeat that?? The avalanche like in Dyatlov pass?? Dude send me some of the weed you're smoking! 😂😂😂😂😂
@IvanDmitriev111 күн бұрын
Sounds like Evgeni Abalakov was gay and they decided to eliminate him during the Berya's postwar anti-gay purges. Same story as basically "famous aviators" back in the 1930ies. This is why no investigation was conducted and any further investigation was still denied by [the supposedly closeted gay] Andropov. USSR unfortunately didn't have its Stonewall or another gay rights moment (but could have been considering it was accepted in most Soviet republics). However I can say that of all the imperialist and therefore - state-homophobic countries (Soviet Union unfortunately included), only the French "republic" knew how to effectively utilise their gay military commanders, gay athletes and gay celebrities back in the 1930ies and 1940ies.
@user-hr3fb5qw6d11 күн бұрын
This narrator is a rotten story-teller!
@IvanDmitriev112 күн бұрын
5:18 Wow, that was a ridiculous hiking plan, in midwinter, even with modern equipment, I'm sorry to say. I've been to all those places and while Kirovsk is not remote and a winter resort these days, if anything would happen to you in Lovozero or Revda, yeah back at the time you had the option of a helicopter ambulance, only IF you warned the local authorities where you were and if you had a radio with you. Today with the decline in uranium and rare earth mining, and the deer herding, it's anyone's guess if a person lost there still would survive. 14:55 Very sad, really, and a typical representative case of the toxic masculinity culture, where a group of children, basically were told that they would be ok by someone older but not old enough to lead this kind of group, much less in this kind of environment, or this kind of conditions :( . 18:11 "exploding eyeballs, eardrums" that's a load of bullshit, entirely. Again I've been there (in Lovozero tundras + on the mountain) and in many other places - the main dangers you run is hypothermia and frostbite. I've gotten frostbite in milder conditions, traveling in a car there, in winter (that is - I've gotten frostbite, while being INSIDE the car dressed in modern winter clothing). People just don't understand that humidity + wind + cold + nowhere to hide is a recipe for becoming very dead, very quickly. 19:35 They didn't inform the organizer that the experienced hikers weren't going because they were afraid of not being allowed to go, unfortunately due to their age and invincibility bias - that is not understanding their own mortality, which is common in humans before the age of 25, not very afraid to die. 19:44 It's rarely discussed, because it's common to die in avalanches, or freezing to death or going through any of the 100000 lakes there are there while on the snowmobile: in other words, it's a very common death, unfortunately, and unfortunately every year there are people from outside the Kola peninsula (same as with people from outide the Urals, or outside the Elbrus region) who come there unprepared, and maybe a couple of them even die. In other words - it's very sad, because the system failed those hikers, but it's almost an inevitable banality even in modern times. This year 4 people already died around the Chamonix valley, also in the "safe mountains". Mountains, to put it simply, are never "safe". 19:45-23:01 That's just again bullshit; now - this bullshit, mostly created by the KGB, due to the fact they were the "guardians of the public property" but they were kept in check by the Communist party, the party disappearing overnight had an effect that a lot of them - let's say it plainly - the majority of them joined the mafia or sold out to the West, directly, so in creating this bullshit they had actual tangible purpose in distracting the population of the Soviet Union from robbery of "privatization" and actual theft of assets, precious metals and state secrets, which happened all over its lands in 1991-1993. As for arctic hysteria or cabin fever - they weren't there for anywhere long enough to have been affected by it, the most stressful thing they could have experienced before they froze to death was the sudden realization that this was in the middle of the polar night (the time period of around 2 months where the sun doesn't rise over the horizon) and they would never (or almost never - as you can see a bit of sun from the mountaintops) see the sun, which meant the visibility there would be nil, and they wouldn't get "better visibility" for hiking out. 24:19: Now again, this is something for which you have had to be there to undertand it - Kola peninsula is home - was home at the time, to the 2nd largest research community in the Soviet Union, and some of the researchers are a bit unhinged - that is the state paid them to think outside the box, and sometimes they thought outside the box a bit too much, which is why it was also home to (also probably the largest) integrated psychiatric internment and assisted-living housing facility. "Geopathic" "zones" for all intents and purposes don't exist - however the area is affected by radon seepage and it results in a higher than usual amount of cancers and chronic illnesses (which is probably due to the absence of light for 2 months of the year and the absence of greenery for 8).
@IvanDmitriev112 күн бұрын
The most plausible theory of outside intervention is assassination by a Russian-American saboteur group (very probably either from Finland or trained by the original participants of the Winter War), described in the book "Atomic Espionnage in the Urals" by the Rakitins ("Socialism doesn't generate crime", "Serial killers in the Soviet Union" etc.). It's very "circumstantial evidence" styled, however, given the amount of evidence available in the openly-accesible CIA HUMINT archives - just go to their site and search for it, and the fact that, I'm not exactly a bystander in the loop - my grandfather was one of the vice-ministers of the Ministry of Medium Machinery (so the USSR nuclear ministry) at the time (so - to be clear, in 1959), and I know some things about both the installations there, and elsewhere, I would classify the version of foreign clandestine operation, as very plausible. Otherwise, I'm inclined to take the Occam's razor explanation of a slab avalanche.
@sandysilva565912 күн бұрын
Tthe storm is to blame.
@Notrdeth13 күн бұрын
So...By your standards, every German from 30's-40's was a Nazi party member? Man, you're pathetic. That is like saying every Russian in Ukraine right now is a terrorist. Wrong, wrong, and wrong.
@ianclark266514 күн бұрын
I have very little sympathy for those who don't take supplementary oxygen and die on Everest, especially when they have a child waiting for them at home. Spending 3 nights in the death zone without supplementary oxygen before attempting the summit is foolhardy in the extreme.
@user-hr3fb5qw6d14 күн бұрын
Why such a fuclin annoying background noise?
@user-tt3vk7vn6l14 күн бұрын
This light from the explosion was like no other blast in history. At midnight in London City England people could sit on a chair and read a newspaper as if like broad daylight.
@user-tt3vk7vn6l14 күн бұрын
In 1908 an lady quite young then, told a story before she died in her 80's. She sat watching a fire coming to earth in space, it was a Cylinder shape with fire at one end. The Cylindrical object was in view for 15 minutes before the big explosion. It came into earth's atmosphere at an entry curve, but changed trajectory to a more up-ward flight. But seemed to be in trouble and on fire. It didn't make the emergency landing and there was a great blinding explosion, as the young lady held her hands covering her closed eye, she could still see the blood vessels and bones in her hand. At that moment when the fire seemed to hit the ground, another object was observed leaving the fire explosion and going back out through the clouds. (Was this an escape capsule?). Everyone was knocked from their feet to a great distance, some people were badly damaged.
@mitchellnelson278014 күн бұрын
How do you eat human meat and live with yourself
@mitchellnelson278014 күн бұрын
I think I will stay home to day
@kakao741115 күн бұрын
just found this channel and am really enjoying your videos, thanks for creating!!
@Fullchristainname15 күн бұрын
12:40 I’ve experienced fog where there was a lot of dust/particulates in the air and when it falls on your skin it leaves a kind of sticky residue behind - maybe that’s what they mean by “sticky” fog?
@Notrdeth16 күн бұрын
20:03 you can see faces on the mountain. Pareidolia?
@Notrdeth16 күн бұрын
What you are telling me is that this mountain, Lenin peak, is a sexist? <--what a new gen would say/believe.
@mitchellnelson278016 күн бұрын
Simply Horrible
@BlueBonnie76417 күн бұрын
@14:00. Justin Bieber is top right? He looks good for his age, LOL 😆😂😂😂
@noname-hb8vk17 күн бұрын
half of the video" u reading some diary with russian accent lol... boring, i rather read book..😉
@cassleever58817 күн бұрын
Grizzly = grisly
@hillanderson650317 күн бұрын
This story didnt have a happy ending, but Elvira was certainly a strong and capable woman. Much respect for her and her desire to lead all woman expeditions to challenge woman.
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So there's no evidence this expedition ever happened at all.
Aww it’s just heartbreaking. They all deserve to live on but the incredibly unpredictable nature of life is heartbreaking.
NEVER eat uncooked meat (even a little bit pink) or the internal organs or brain of any animal! That certainly contributed in a big way to their death!
Such astounding stupidity every step of the way! They would get fired from a McDonald's today! But they've provided me with tons of laughs. Lol!
For them all to suffer pulmonary edema at the same time is strange. They all had experienced the same conditions but they all had different biological features. It seems more like poisoning of the food or water supply.
12:47 - Like deers or bears have an anti-fog vision or something. Oh, and good luck smelling things at this much water in the air. Damn dogs couldn't pick up a scent of a guy lying in a ditch and those were trained!
Ur podcast show sucks bro
Maybe it’s rabies?
So let me get this straight. Jon Krakauer, who stayed in his tent instead of helping, has criticized the man who went out in a blizzard, ON EVEREST, and saved multiple people? On an American can be so damn arrogant. If Anatoli was a "red, white and blue" American, Krakauer would not have said a word.
I've been there in 2019...though situation I passed there. But everything is destiny. Why? That's G-d accounts. I would hope the survivor (Koren) to recognize it, but no..."I was physically strong"...sure, and the others not?
I don’t think they would have survived with more (lots of things). They had not worked together long enough to develop any team mentality or even enough experience to shield themselves from the stress of “it’s cold and someone with more initiative expects me to start taking responsibility for myself”. The two who kept getting up to clear their own tent were setting a fabulous example. Many of the others however had not made the psychological shift from “someone is looking after me” to “I’m learning by experience what needs to be done & im taking responsibility to get it done”
Hmm. Climb it during monsoon. Yknow, since youre doing the north face anyways... might as well.
Huh... i fail to see the similarity between this event and the Dyatlov Pass Incident. Whatsoever. There was even a survivor found and they know precisely what happened and how it happened.
Follow the smell in the warm season... might work.
"We hope it gets harder and there are no tracks and we want no help. Oh, wait, is there anyone we can follow? Is anyone coming up?" Come on.
Lmfao someone complained about there not being any girls on the climb? Dude, your mind is in the wrong place if thats what youre concerned with while climbing. Also, as someone who suffers from acute acid reflux, i absolutely understand the guy not being able to do as much with a serious case of hartburn. Sometimes, especially when trying to do physical activity, heartburn just saps your strength right from the core of your being. Anyone else out there who suffers from the debilitating factors of nasty heartburn understands this to be actually quite serious.
Im pretty sure i saw the Khumbu Ice Falls in this presentation.. which, is weird because the Khumbu Ice Falls are on Everest between Base Camp and Camp 1, at least, i may be wrong about that precise location but i do know theyre on Everest, not Denali. There may be some similar looking spots tho and i am just confused.
Your videos are amazing bra. May you keep on. There's nothing as golden as actually listening to someone's actual voice in videos ❤ One love brada
Wow. This made me cry. What a beautiful thing that humans can do for each other ❤ God bless them, may they be a blessing to everyone they meet because they might have not been out ever again.
whats a worse scenario.. they take parts from the plane & tell her we will be Back for you in a short while and have no intentions to do so
One story of soviet in space they aske him on the transmission how is your food situation .. he replied what food
When She was Found she said to her X Husband you probably Remarried By Now .. i thought that was a joke But Anna Meant what She Said .. o m g.... she needed to come too the U.S.A
Half witted
I loved hiking but rarely did it anywhere even close to real wilderness. About 3 times I'd gotten turned around and lost for a few hours even very close to roads. Hiking sounds easy and safe but it can turn bad surprizingly quickly. For that reason I am glad I never did try a really long trek. I'd probably have just ended up part of a tragic Burger King pass incident.
I don't know much about diving, but I don't understand why Dave tried to put Deon's body in a bag or why he didn't take more air with him. I also don't understand why we can't just send small drones down there. We have ROVs that can go to the bottom of the ocean.
Wow, nice slow talking with interestingly weird inflections. Have a pot of coffee. These videos are at least three times longer than they have to be.
Why weren't these guys in Vietnam?
You were doing fine until you mentioned aliens
Would you please repeat that?? The avalanche like in Dyatlov pass?? Dude send me some of the weed you're smoking! 😂😂😂😂😂
Sounds like Evgeni Abalakov was gay and they decided to eliminate him during the Berya's postwar anti-gay purges. Same story as basically "famous aviators" back in the 1930ies. This is why no investigation was conducted and any further investigation was still denied by [the supposedly closeted gay] Andropov. USSR unfortunately didn't have its Stonewall or another gay rights moment (but could have been considering it was accepted in most Soviet republics). However I can say that of all the imperialist and therefore - state-homophobic countries (Soviet Union unfortunately included), only the French "republic" knew how to effectively utilise their gay military commanders, gay athletes and gay celebrities back in the 1930ies and 1940ies.
This narrator is a rotten story-teller!
5:18 Wow, that was a ridiculous hiking plan, in midwinter, even with modern equipment, I'm sorry to say. I've been to all those places and while Kirovsk is not remote and a winter resort these days, if anything would happen to you in Lovozero or Revda, yeah back at the time you had the option of a helicopter ambulance, only IF you warned the local authorities where you were and if you had a radio with you. Today with the decline in uranium and rare earth mining, and the deer herding, it's anyone's guess if a person lost there still would survive. 14:55 Very sad, really, and a typical representative case of the toxic masculinity culture, where a group of children, basically were told that they would be ok by someone older but not old enough to lead this kind of group, much less in this kind of environment, or this kind of conditions :( . 18:11 "exploding eyeballs, eardrums" that's a load of bullshit, entirely. Again I've been there (in Lovozero tundras + on the mountain) and in many other places - the main dangers you run is hypothermia and frostbite. I've gotten frostbite in milder conditions, traveling in a car there, in winter (that is - I've gotten frostbite, while being INSIDE the car dressed in modern winter clothing). People just don't understand that humidity + wind + cold + nowhere to hide is a recipe for becoming very dead, very quickly. 19:35 They didn't inform the organizer that the experienced hikers weren't going because they were afraid of not being allowed to go, unfortunately due to their age and invincibility bias - that is not understanding their own mortality, which is common in humans before the age of 25, not very afraid to die. 19:44 It's rarely discussed, because it's common to die in avalanches, or freezing to death or going through any of the 100000 lakes there are there while on the snowmobile: in other words, it's a very common death, unfortunately, and unfortunately every year there are people from outside the Kola peninsula (same as with people from outide the Urals, or outside the Elbrus region) who come there unprepared, and maybe a couple of them even die. In other words - it's very sad, because the system failed those hikers, but it's almost an inevitable banality even in modern times. This year 4 people already died around the Chamonix valley, also in the "safe mountains". Mountains, to put it simply, are never "safe". 19:45-23:01 That's just again bullshit; now - this bullshit, mostly created by the KGB, due to the fact they were the "guardians of the public property" but they were kept in check by the Communist party, the party disappearing overnight had an effect that a lot of them - let's say it plainly - the majority of them joined the mafia or sold out to the West, directly, so in creating this bullshit they had actual tangible purpose in distracting the population of the Soviet Union from robbery of "privatization" and actual theft of assets, precious metals and state secrets, which happened all over its lands in 1991-1993. As for arctic hysteria or cabin fever - they weren't there for anywhere long enough to have been affected by it, the most stressful thing they could have experienced before they froze to death was the sudden realization that this was in the middle of the polar night (the time period of around 2 months where the sun doesn't rise over the horizon) and they would never (or almost never - as you can see a bit of sun from the mountaintops) see the sun, which meant the visibility there would be nil, and they wouldn't get "better visibility" for hiking out. 24:19: Now again, this is something for which you have had to be there to undertand it - Kola peninsula is home - was home at the time, to the 2nd largest research community in the Soviet Union, and some of the researchers are a bit unhinged - that is the state paid them to think outside the box, and sometimes they thought outside the box a bit too much, which is why it was also home to (also probably the largest) integrated psychiatric internment and assisted-living housing facility. "Geopathic" "zones" for all intents and purposes don't exist - however the area is affected by radon seepage and it results in a higher than usual amount of cancers and chronic illnesses (which is probably due to the absence of light for 2 months of the year and the absence of greenery for 8).
The most plausible theory of outside intervention is assassination by a Russian-American saboteur group (very probably either from Finland or trained by the original participants of the Winter War), described in the book "Atomic Espionnage in the Urals" by the Rakitins ("Socialism doesn't generate crime", "Serial killers in the Soviet Union" etc.). It's very "circumstantial evidence" styled, however, given the amount of evidence available in the openly-accesible CIA HUMINT archives - just go to their site and search for it, and the fact that, I'm not exactly a bystander in the loop - my grandfather was one of the vice-ministers of the Ministry of Medium Machinery (so the USSR nuclear ministry) at the time (so - to be clear, in 1959), and I know some things about both the installations there, and elsewhere, I would classify the version of foreign clandestine operation, as very plausible. Otherwise, I'm inclined to take the Occam's razor explanation of a slab avalanche.
Tthe storm is to blame.
So...By your standards, every German from 30's-40's was a Nazi party member? Man, you're pathetic. That is like saying every Russian in Ukraine right now is a terrorist. Wrong, wrong, and wrong.
I have very little sympathy for those who don't take supplementary oxygen and die on Everest, especially when they have a child waiting for them at home. Spending 3 nights in the death zone without supplementary oxygen before attempting the summit is foolhardy in the extreme.
Why such a fuclin annoying background noise?
This light from the explosion was like no other blast in history. At midnight in London City England people could sit on a chair and read a newspaper as if like broad daylight.
In 1908 an lady quite young then, told a story before she died in her 80's. She sat watching a fire coming to earth in space, it was a Cylinder shape with fire at one end. The Cylindrical object was in view for 15 minutes before the big explosion. It came into earth's atmosphere at an entry curve, but changed trajectory to a more up-ward flight. But seemed to be in trouble and on fire. It didn't make the emergency landing and there was a great blinding explosion, as the young lady held her hands covering her closed eye, she could still see the blood vessels and bones in her hand. At that moment when the fire seemed to hit the ground, another object was observed leaving the fire explosion and going back out through the clouds. (Was this an escape capsule?). Everyone was knocked from their feet to a great distance, some people were badly damaged.
How do you eat human meat and live with yourself
I think I will stay home to day
just found this channel and am really enjoying your videos, thanks for creating!!
12:40 I’ve experienced fog where there was a lot of dust/particulates in the air and when it falls on your skin it leaves a kind of sticky residue behind - maybe that’s what they mean by “sticky” fog?
20:03 you can see faces on the mountain. Pareidolia?
What you are telling me is that this mountain, Lenin peak, is a sexist? <--what a new gen would say/believe.
Simply Horrible
@14:00. Justin Bieber is top right? He looks good for his age, LOL 😆😂😂😂
half of the video" u reading some diary with russian accent lol... boring, i rather read book..😉
Grizzly = grisly
This story didnt have a happy ending, but Elvira was certainly a strong and capable woman. Much respect for her and her desire to lead all woman expeditions to challenge woman.