the pairing is perfect, many says Rotel has a brighter sound, here is simply astonishing, very nice setup! I wonder if this little beast could pair well with my Celestion Ditton3, that are moderately open sounding
@aLiRazA-sc7tv2 ай бұрын
THIS IS BEAUTIFUL SOUND AND SETUP IF YOU ADD GOOD DAC THATS GONNA MAKE MUSIC EVEN MORE BEAUTIFUL...!!
@IsaMichas-gf6kq6 ай бұрын
One thing to keep in mind with this dac/ streamer is if the firmware gets corrupted you can loose an amplifier.The corruption affected the volume control and the gain in my system and burned the left channel of my amplifier.I recommend using this as a streamer in player mode with a seperate preamp or minimally have an amp with a volume control otherwise you may be taking a costly risk.
@Mr.Potato19627 ай бұрын
Sound's Good But No High Res From Spotify Yet !
@MrTrigovina7 ай бұрын
Is it possible to change the volume from remote in player mode? Did you try? My topping dac that i want to use with that network player is not allowed to adjust volume in dac mode. Pre mod of topping dac is allowed to adjust the volume change, but i want to use it in dac mode. My dac is topping d70 pro sabre.
@polawo7 ай бұрын
So I just checked and in the preamp mode - you can adjust the volume from your phone
@MrTrigovina7 ай бұрын
@@polawo It is not a practical solution.
@evangeloskalavritinos16248 ай бұрын
Thank you
@marioplus3218 ай бұрын
playing music via usb, can I play all the tracks ,regardless the number of folders, at random?
@polawo8 ай бұрын
So I just checked this now. Unfortunately it wont do that - you need to go into the folders 😞
@marioplus3218 ай бұрын
@@polawo thx,anyway. I'm likely to grab this device soon, your video explained a lot. BTW my Denon cdp900 can do that,so it's not a big deal.
@polawo8 ай бұрын
@@marioplus321 I think you'll be really happy with it! I still use mine after eight years of owning it!
@marioplus3218 ай бұрын
@@polawo last but not least; does it accept 512GB USBsticks?
@polawo8 ай бұрын
@@marioplus321 I don't have a usb stick that large so I cannot test it for you. Sorry about that!
@mdrumt10 ай бұрын
Great video. Looks like a great device for use with powered speakers. Although in this situation you'd have to use preamp mode which you say is not as good? Can you bypass the Yamaha smarts and just use it for volume control? Also, your accent, sounds like it flips in and out Aussie, Kiwi and Yankee 😊
@polawo10 ай бұрын
Yeah it is a very cool device! Especially for the price, it does so much in my opinion. Unfortunatly there is no way to bypass it and just use it for volume control. It would probably be better to use the volume on the active speakers and leave this in the player mode.
@mdrumt10 ай бұрын
@polawo wow was looking for a solution as a front end for some studio monitors but they don't have volume control. So I'd be stuck using the Yamaha eq filtering forget what you called it, but that's not ideal when I'm looking for something more transparent. Can you describe what it does?
@polawo10 ай бұрын
@@mdrumt You can turn off the Yamaha "Enchancer" and activate the "Direct" mode so it will be pure direct with the "preamp" option as well. That way it will wont do any processing. The only thing is, it will go through the the DAC which is slightly worse. But when I listened to both, it doesn't make a difference. So there is not reason why you couldnt use the direct mode.
@Nik-li3eg10 ай бұрын
Hello. And where is your magnificent rotel? I have the same Dali zenzor 3, in white. They play with the fx audio 802s pro amplifier. The sound is great, I thought to take rotel for comparison! I wanted to know your opinion?! I will be grateful to you!
@polawo10 ай бұрын
Ah yeah I did have the Rotel A10 - it was a really nice amplifier. Such good build quality and sounded great! But I sold it off and purchased the Sony TA-A1ES second hand for a good price. But I have not heard the FX Audio 802s
@luciendemaine515310 ай бұрын
good video.
@janne28211 ай бұрын
Thx for clearing up the AUX-out questions I had and that I couldn't find any answer for anywhere else. 👍
@user-fd8rw4ky2u11 ай бұрын
Does it works with portable speakers? Any portable speaker brand and model? Thanks
@leo11877 Жыл бұрын
Which Sony amp are you using?
@polawo Жыл бұрын
It is the Sony TA-A1ES
@ThePresentpresence Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I love you. I have spent HOURS trying to find out if i can use this unit to transmit an analogue source to Musiccast wireless speakers. Your video is the only one that specifically addressed this question!!
@marcbegine Жыл бұрын
What about Qobuz, the best streaming service (24 bit/192kHz)!!!!?
@PL-oc7vn Жыл бұрын
wonderful sound demo!! There's a pair for sale here in my neighbourhood for €200 with stands in great condition. Do you think it's a good price? What did they actually cost new? thanks in advance!
@polawo Жыл бұрын
Oh I would highly recommend them! I bought mine in Australia where they were about $900 AUD brand new. But I believe these speakers are great value for money and are really pleasant to listen to. I don't think you'll regret the purchase
@PL-oc7vn Жыл бұрын
@@polawo Allright cool, thanks for the confirmation! I’ll go contact the seller and maybe give them a new home🙂
@danmcbmusic Жыл бұрын
No way to search? If you connect a USB with your 800G music library? That's a deal breaker
@AlvaroRMD Жыл бұрын
Hi, Can I use the Yamaha WXC-50 without the install MusicCast app? like a normal bluetooth device?
@dondonaldson1684 Жыл бұрын
I wish that Yamaha had put HDMI ARC into this.
@inikphoto Жыл бұрын
Hey mate, will this be able to accept audio in from my amp and then use airplay to Apple home pods?
@polawo Жыл бұрын
Oh I dont think you can do that. With this unit you can send audio from your Apple devices via Airplay to the Music Cast system BUT I do not believe you can use this unit to send audio to Apple Devices in the same way. You can output through Bluetooth though to devices.
@inikphoto Жыл бұрын
@@polawo thanks for the reply! Ok so as long as the speakers have Bluetooth this device will be able to send audio through to them?
@polawo Жыл бұрын
@@inikphoto Yeah it will be able to do that. But it may not work as well. Is there any reason why you are sending audio signal from an amp -> music cast via the network -> bluetooth output to speaker? What amp are you outputting from?
@inikphoto Жыл бұрын
@@polawo thanks mate all good sorted it out!
@vincenzo5195 Жыл бұрын
dali zensor 3 with rotel ra 12? how about?
@tamaszlav Жыл бұрын
How is this affordable?
@polawo Жыл бұрын
It is quite well priced compared to the competition. For example, the Cambridge Audio cxn v2 costs about four times as much. For this price you get many features and great sound. What would you consider an affordable price for such a device?
@alessandrosuppini943 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate for such a thorough review, really appreciated! 👍
@bfourney Жыл бұрын
What speakers are those that you have the Sony ES paired up to? They look beautiful.
@polawo Жыл бұрын
They are the Dali Zensor 3. Yeah I really like the look of them as well - Dali make some nice looking gear
@bfourney Жыл бұрын
@@polawo Looks like those aren't made anymore :(
@martinbeveridge3204 Жыл бұрын
Well done ..really good info and review. Best Wishes
@rooannaroo446 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review and analysis… big thanks.
@cygnusmedia992 Жыл бұрын
This is a very nice review. I got more than enough information on the unit to make my decision to buy one. What do you think of the WXA-50DS Amp?
@polawo Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! For the price, I reckon the Yamaha WXA-50 amplifier is great and would recommend it. It has a good form factor and has good sound for the price if you are looking for something on a budget that does it all.
@cygnusmedia992 Жыл бұрын
@@polawo Thank you for your quick response. I think I'm going to get the pair.
@johns8377 Жыл бұрын
I like the song
@sat-tv-iptv-pcservice8113 Жыл бұрын
Was wird gespielt?
@jonaspetersen7327 Жыл бұрын
Good video.. and looks be a good quality product. But for me only one optical input is a deal breaker.
@liulaolao7269 Жыл бұрын
with the USB input, would dts 5.1 music files be output as multi-channel signal through the optical out (no down-mixing)?
@polawo Жыл бұрын
I don't believe this unit would support dts 5.1 files. It has a list of files it supports in the manual and they are all two channel.
@liulaolao7269 Жыл бұрын
@@polawo Lucky you told me so. Thanks.
@matt42hughes Жыл бұрын
Thanks for going over this in a lot of detail. It answered the exact question that I was looking for... I wanted the Bluesound Node, but heard that I couldn't use the optical input for my television because it has a noticeable input delay... and in your review here you covered that you're using this Yamaha with your telly and also showed off how to disable the input delay in the app. Thanks so much.
@Robjm999 Жыл бұрын
Nice Bike, What is it?
@polawo Жыл бұрын
This is a Baum Code. It is a titanium bike made in Melbourne, Australia! Check then out as they are unreal!
@offep87 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Can you tell the app that you want to go mono? Not stereo? I'm about installing in-ceiling/roofspeakers in my house, going to have three musiccast/amp diveces, and want it in mono Sound because the speakers are all over the place. Is that possible?
@polawo Жыл бұрын
The best I could find is changing the balance in the app. You can change the balance so it only comes out one channel which is the same.
@offep87 Жыл бұрын
@@polawo ok, thank you. I need to connect at least two speakers to every amp, so maybe that's not a good idé to only use one chanel. Hmm, need to think a little about it. Maybe connect them in some kind of series.
@polawo Жыл бұрын
@@offep87 I would personally just set up two speakers per device in the ceiling.
@johnsmith1474 Жыл бұрын
Can't stomach Aussies due to their ass kissing of American military. Sorry!
@deangrande7002 Жыл бұрын
great vid
@emersongraves58692 жыл бұрын
What type of speakers are you playing?
@polawo2 жыл бұрын
These are Dali Zensor 3
@emersongraves58692 жыл бұрын
What's that black box with the spectrum analysis lights you're using for.
@frantotti97542 жыл бұрын
Can I use it as Headphone amplifier ? I could not see Headphone jack input ? thanks for great video .
@polawo2 жыл бұрын
This cannot be used a headphone amplifier. You would need to have a separate headphone amplifier for this
@frantotti97542 жыл бұрын
@@polawo Thanks mate, if you could recommend me good amplifier as speaker and headphones amplifier at the same time ? I will really appreciate that, I am gonna pair it up with Elac Debut reference DBR62 speakers and shenhiser HD58x. and also subwoofer in future.
@polawo2 жыл бұрын
@@frantotti9754 If you need a subwoofer output I would recommend the following: 1. Yamaha A-S701B 2. Marantz PM6007 3. Cambridge Audio CXA61 Those are excellent options!
@lawharry23012 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reviewing, and I am now planing to get one. I just wanna ask how was it work with AirPlay Wi-Fi connection, can we play music form KZread tilda or other apps through Wi-Fi on it? I heard the Wi-Fi of it may lost time to time.
@polawo2 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried this unit with wifi as I always have it plugged into the ethernet. But I have tried Airplay over wifi and it worked well
@jawadtaheri73032 жыл бұрын
Does this unit give cd quality from Spotify??confused help needed
@ericksonengineering70112 жыл бұрын
Nice review, thanks! Is there an up-to-date replacement for the (now obsolete) WXC-50 or should I get one on Ebay?
@polawo2 жыл бұрын
Oh I didn't know they were obsolete! I have seen many sites still selling them. There is no alternative at the moment. I would recommend getting one online or ebay. I still use mine and absolutely love it! I wish it had a coax in and a better remote, but very happy with everything aside from those two points.
@berj792 жыл бұрын
hi, does this support Qobuz? Thanks.
@polawo2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I just checked my unit and this doesn't come up as an option sorry 😕
@melvinmansatainday57712 жыл бұрын
Excellent review 👌👍
@thedownunderverse2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why there are two L/R audio outs, when the one on the right (the one you point out) is of much higher quality than the other then why does the other one even exist?
@jayjoemat2 жыл бұрын
Dali zensor 3 or dali oberon 1?
@polawo2 жыл бұрын
These are Dali Zensor 3
@podunkman27092 жыл бұрын
This device has Bluetooth from year... 2007. Yes, hard to believe. So answer yourself if really nothing happened last 15 years in develpment of this protocol
@polawo2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the is a good point. I guess for me, I do not use Bluetooth on this device. I use network streaming for spotify and I use optical input for receiving a digital source.
@cosmins32732 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the review! If you connect a cable using the trigger output on the Yamaha, are you then able to power on and off the Sony amplifier or some other amplifier just by using the Music cast app?
@polawo2 жыл бұрын
Yes that is correct, it will be able to turn on and off amplifiers which have the trigger on input.
@1974best2 жыл бұрын
Is this box still worth it today... Seems pretty old (2015 or 2016 when it came out)??
@1974best2 жыл бұрын
And what amp is that??
@polawo2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is still working well. The amp still works with Spotify and the optical input still works stereo codec. So I believe it still works well eventhough it is 5 years old. I paired this one with a Sony TA-A1ES amplifier and the sound is great
@aRndBelgianGuy2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed review ! When using the pre outs in "player mode", will it also prevent the volume to be changed from let's say an iPhone sending audio via Airplay ? (I hope so but I'm not sure).
@polawo2 жыл бұрын
I have tested this before and I found that it is a fixed volume from the iPhone and you will change the volume from the Yamaha amplifier
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the pairing is perfect, many says Rotel has a brighter sound, here is simply astonishing, very nice setup! I wonder if this little beast could pair well with my Celestion Ditton3, that are moderately open sounding
THIS IS BEAUTIFUL SOUND AND SETUP IF YOU ADD GOOD DAC THATS GONNA MAKE MUSIC EVEN MORE BEAUTIFUL...!!
One thing to keep in mind with this dac/ streamer is if the firmware gets corrupted you can loose an amplifier.The corruption affected the volume control and the gain in my system and burned the left channel of my amplifier.I recommend using this as a streamer in player mode with a seperate preamp or minimally have an amp with a volume control otherwise you may be taking a costly risk.
Sound's Good But No High Res From Spotify Yet !
Is it possible to change the volume from remote in player mode? Did you try? My topping dac that i want to use with that network player is not allowed to adjust volume in dac mode. Pre mod of topping dac is allowed to adjust the volume change, but i want to use it in dac mode. My dac is topping d70 pro sabre.
So I just checked and in the preamp mode - you can adjust the volume from your phone
@@polawo It is not a practical solution.
Thank you
playing music via usb, can I play all the tracks ,regardless the number of folders, at random?
So I just checked this now. Unfortunately it wont do that - you need to go into the folders 😞
@@polawo thx,anyway. I'm likely to grab this device soon, your video explained a lot. BTW my Denon cdp900 can do that,so it's not a big deal.
@@marioplus321 I think you'll be really happy with it! I still use mine after eight years of owning it!
@@polawo last but not least; does it accept 512GB USBsticks?
@@marioplus321 I don't have a usb stick that large so I cannot test it for you. Sorry about that!
Great video. Looks like a great device for use with powered speakers. Although in this situation you'd have to use preamp mode which you say is not as good? Can you bypass the Yamaha smarts and just use it for volume control? Also, your accent, sounds like it flips in and out Aussie, Kiwi and Yankee 😊
Yeah it is a very cool device! Especially for the price, it does so much in my opinion. Unfortunatly there is no way to bypass it and just use it for volume control. It would probably be better to use the volume on the active speakers and leave this in the player mode.
@polawo wow was looking for a solution as a front end for some studio monitors but they don't have volume control. So I'd be stuck using the Yamaha eq filtering forget what you called it, but that's not ideal when I'm looking for something more transparent. Can you describe what it does?
@@mdrumt You can turn off the Yamaha "Enchancer" and activate the "Direct" mode so it will be pure direct with the "preamp" option as well. That way it will wont do any processing. The only thing is, it will go through the the DAC which is slightly worse. But when I listened to both, it doesn't make a difference. So there is not reason why you couldnt use the direct mode.
Hello. And where is your magnificent rotel? I have the same Dali zenzor 3, in white. They play with the fx audio 802s pro amplifier. The sound is great, I thought to take rotel for comparison! I wanted to know your opinion?! I will be grateful to you!
Ah yeah I did have the Rotel A10 - it was a really nice amplifier. Such good build quality and sounded great! But I sold it off and purchased the Sony TA-A1ES second hand for a good price. But I have not heard the FX Audio 802s
good video.
Thx for clearing up the AUX-out questions I had and that I couldn't find any answer for anywhere else. 👍
Does it works with portable speakers? Any portable speaker brand and model? Thanks
Which Sony amp are you using?
It is the Sony TA-A1ES
Thank you. I love you. I have spent HOURS trying to find out if i can use this unit to transmit an analogue source to Musiccast wireless speakers. Your video is the only one that specifically addressed this question!!
What about Qobuz, the best streaming service (24 bit/192kHz)!!!!?
wonderful sound demo!! There's a pair for sale here in my neighbourhood for €200 with stands in great condition. Do you think it's a good price? What did they actually cost new? thanks in advance!
Oh I would highly recommend them! I bought mine in Australia where they were about $900 AUD brand new. But I believe these speakers are great value for money and are really pleasant to listen to. I don't think you'll regret the purchase
@@polawo Allright cool, thanks for the confirmation! I’ll go contact the seller and maybe give them a new home🙂
No way to search? If you connect a USB with your 800G music library? That's a deal breaker
Hi, Can I use the Yamaha WXC-50 without the install MusicCast app? like a normal bluetooth device?
I wish that Yamaha had put HDMI ARC into this.
Hey mate, will this be able to accept audio in from my amp and then use airplay to Apple home pods?
Oh I dont think you can do that. With this unit you can send audio from your Apple devices via Airplay to the Music Cast system BUT I do not believe you can use this unit to send audio to Apple Devices in the same way. You can output through Bluetooth though to devices.
@@polawo thanks for the reply! Ok so as long as the speakers have Bluetooth this device will be able to send audio through to them?
@@inikphoto Yeah it will be able to do that. But it may not work as well. Is there any reason why you are sending audio signal from an amp -> music cast via the network -> bluetooth output to speaker? What amp are you outputting from?
@@polawo thanks mate all good sorted it out!
dali zensor 3 with rotel ra 12? how about?
How is this affordable?
It is quite well priced compared to the competition. For example, the Cambridge Audio cxn v2 costs about four times as much. For this price you get many features and great sound. What would you consider an affordable price for such a device?
Thanks mate for such a thorough review, really appreciated! 👍
What speakers are those that you have the Sony ES paired up to? They look beautiful.
They are the Dali Zensor 3. Yeah I really like the look of them as well - Dali make some nice looking gear
@@polawo Looks like those aren't made anymore :(
Well done ..really good info and review. Best Wishes
Excellent review and analysis… big thanks.
This is a very nice review. I got more than enough information on the unit to make my decision to buy one. What do you think of the WXA-50DS Amp?
Glad you liked it! For the price, I reckon the Yamaha WXA-50 amplifier is great and would recommend it. It has a good form factor and has good sound for the price if you are looking for something on a budget that does it all.
@@polawo Thank you for your quick response. I think I'm going to get the pair.
I like the song
Was wird gespielt?
Good video.. and looks be a good quality product. But for me only one optical input is a deal breaker.
with the USB input, would dts 5.1 music files be output as multi-channel signal through the optical out (no down-mixing)?
I don't believe this unit would support dts 5.1 files. It has a list of files it supports in the manual and they are all two channel.
@@polawo Lucky you told me so. Thanks.
Thanks for going over this in a lot of detail. It answered the exact question that I was looking for... I wanted the Bluesound Node, but heard that I couldn't use the optical input for my television because it has a noticeable input delay... and in your review here you covered that you're using this Yamaha with your telly and also showed off how to disable the input delay in the app. Thanks so much.
Nice Bike, What is it?
This is a Baum Code. It is a titanium bike made in Melbourne, Australia! Check then out as they are unreal!
Hi. Can you tell the app that you want to go mono? Not stereo? I'm about installing in-ceiling/roofspeakers in my house, going to have three musiccast/amp diveces, and want it in mono Sound because the speakers are all over the place. Is that possible?
The best I could find is changing the balance in the app. You can change the balance so it only comes out one channel which is the same.
@@polawo ok, thank you. I need to connect at least two speakers to every amp, so maybe that's not a good idé to only use one chanel. Hmm, need to think a little about it. Maybe connect them in some kind of series.
@@offep87 I would personally just set up two speakers per device in the ceiling.
Can't stomach Aussies due to their ass kissing of American military. Sorry!
great vid
What type of speakers are you playing?
These are Dali Zensor 3
What's that black box with the spectrum analysis lights you're using for.
Can I use it as Headphone amplifier ? I could not see Headphone jack input ? thanks for great video .
This cannot be used a headphone amplifier. You would need to have a separate headphone amplifier for this
@@polawo Thanks mate, if you could recommend me good amplifier as speaker and headphones amplifier at the same time ? I will really appreciate that, I am gonna pair it up with Elac Debut reference DBR62 speakers and shenhiser HD58x. and also subwoofer in future.
@@frantotti9754 If you need a subwoofer output I would recommend the following: 1. Yamaha A-S701B 2. Marantz PM6007 3. Cambridge Audio CXA61 Those are excellent options!
Thanks for your reviewing, and I am now planing to get one. I just wanna ask how was it work with AirPlay Wi-Fi connection, can we play music form KZread tilda or other apps through Wi-Fi on it? I heard the Wi-Fi of it may lost time to time.
I haven't tried this unit with wifi as I always have it plugged into the ethernet. But I have tried Airplay over wifi and it worked well
Does this unit give cd quality from Spotify??confused help needed
Nice review, thanks! Is there an up-to-date replacement for the (now obsolete) WXC-50 or should I get one on Ebay?
Oh I didn't know they were obsolete! I have seen many sites still selling them. There is no alternative at the moment. I would recommend getting one online or ebay. I still use mine and absolutely love it! I wish it had a coax in and a better remote, but very happy with everything aside from those two points.
hi, does this support Qobuz? Thanks.
Hi, I just checked my unit and this doesn't come up as an option sorry 😕
Excellent review 👌👍
I don't understand why there are two L/R audio outs, when the one on the right (the one you point out) is of much higher quality than the other then why does the other one even exist?
Dali zensor 3 or dali oberon 1?
These are Dali Zensor 3
This device has Bluetooth from year... 2007. Yes, hard to believe. So answer yourself if really nothing happened last 15 years in develpment of this protocol
Yeah the is a good point. I guess for me, I do not use Bluetooth on this device. I use network streaming for spotify and I use optical input for receiving a digital source.
Many thanks for the review! If you connect a cable using the trigger output on the Yamaha, are you then able to power on and off the Sony amplifier or some other amplifier just by using the Music cast app?
Yes that is correct, it will be able to turn on and off amplifiers which have the trigger on input.
Is this box still worth it today... Seems pretty old (2015 or 2016 when it came out)??
And what amp is that??
Yeah it is still working well. The amp still works with Spotify and the optical input still works stereo codec. So I believe it still works well eventhough it is 5 years old. I paired this one with a Sony TA-A1ES amplifier and the sound is great
Thanks for the detailed review ! When using the pre outs in "player mode", will it also prevent the volume to be changed from let's say an iPhone sending audio via Airplay ? (I hope so but I'm not sure).
I have tested this before and I found that it is a fixed volume from the iPhone and you will change the volume from the Yamaha amplifier
@@polawo Thanks !