Skips Messy Workbench

Skips Messy Workbench

This channel contain some video's about my hobby of model building. I have a wide variety of interests and tend to mostly build cars, planes and SciFi.

I started building models in the early to mid 1960's and pretty much made a mess of them. Now that I'm retired I'm starting to model again and wow...the modeling world has significantly changed, so...I have a lot of catching up to do. Follow me as I learn new model building skills, create some disasters and also have many successes.

I was also blessed with a 45-year career in electronics, industrial automation and control and teaching, all of which I have a passion for and therefore going to work was fun because I made a living doing my favorite hobbies. I have another KZread Channel for my now hobby of electronics and control. It can be found at: jtodora kzread.info There are also some model builds on that channel.

My website: skipsmessyworkbench.com
My other KZread Channel: @jtodora



02 Ford T-Bird Part02

02 Ford T-Bird Part02

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  • @petermillecento4906
    @petermillecento49069 күн бұрын

    I paint the white first on that interior, masked it and spray the red.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench9 күн бұрын

    Yes. That's probably a good idea. I wasn't thinking.

  • @Bruces-Eclectic-World
    @Bruces-Eclectic-World11 күн бұрын

    Looking awesome Skippy. Pink? I just don't see it... Lol Wow, you are so right, I retired in 2016 and I agree, how did I find time to have a job... An I still don't have model time some days and others I just go not today... Lol Ramble on my friend, Ramble on! LLAP 🖖

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench11 күн бұрын

    Thanks Bruce. It is amazing, the lack of time available. And now, on top of everything else, it seems like I'm pushing a lawn mower twice per week. The grass here in the Keystone state is growing like weeds. The old time farmers used to say they could sit outside in evening and hear the corn growing. Well, I can sit on my patio and hear the grass growing. 😂🤣I guess I need to be thankful I can still push a lawn mower and remain active in all ways. I have been truly blessed and thank and praise God everyday. Thanks again and take care my KZread buddy.

  • @theintake8961
    @theintake896111 күн бұрын

    Your 56' is coming along nicely Skip! I'm looking forward to seeing your progress 😎👍

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench11 күн бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @smithgroove945
    @smithgroove94529 күн бұрын

    Lotsa work Skip. I give it another 2 years without a team. Lol. Your progress is commendable.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench29 күн бұрын

    I give it more than 2-years...LOL...😂🤣😂🤣. Actually, the blinking lights is the easy part. Even the fiber optics shouldn't be too bad. I'll be dragging my heals with the tread movement and adding RC controller...Ok...make it 10-years...LOL...😂🤣😂🤣. What matters to me is that I'm having a blast!!! Thanks for watching and I enjoy the comment(s).

  • @Bruces-Eclectic-World
    @Bruces-Eclectic-World29 күн бұрын

    For me it is white over blue with purl in them. Kinda... Lol There again I paint what I want and don't care about that " Oh it has to be this color or that one..." 🤣 Your model build it your way... Lol LLAP 🖖

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench29 күн бұрын

    Hi Bruce. I usually paint what and how I want, but this time I want to go with a factory paint scheme and factory stock. I'm leaning toward either Colonial White over Peacock Blue or Raven Black over Fiesta Red. I've actually been spending the bulk of my time on the Lost In Space B9 Robot. I'm having a blast with that kit and developing the electronics to animate as much of it as possible. Thanks for watching.

  • @Bruces-Eclectic-World
    @Bruces-Eclectic-World29 күн бұрын

    @@skipsmessyworkbench Sounds awesome! 🖖

  • @smithgroove945
    @smithgroove945Ай бұрын

    God bless your mom. Same here.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    Thank you. I have been truly blessed to have her with me yet and to be in good health. If I even make it to 92 I'd be happy to be in half her condition. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @rayrussell6258
    @rayrussell6258Ай бұрын

    Peacock Blue/ White would be my choice, although Thunderbird Green single tone or in 2-tone with White would look good, too. Looking ahead, if I had this kit, I'd deepen the panel lines rather than use Panel Liner.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    I plan to deepen the panel lines and have started around where the headlight rings meet the fenders. The lines out of box are very shallow. Thanks for watching and commenting. Thanks for the input on the color. I'm going to do some test spoons and see how they look.

  • @rayrussell6258
    @rayrussell6258Ай бұрын

    @@skipsmessyworkbench to make myself clearer, I meant doors and trunk lines, but you probably knew that.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    @@rayrussell6258 yah, I know that. 🙂

  • @user-bt3fy5gd3n
    @user-bt3fy5gd3nАй бұрын

    Black with a red roof brother 😊

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    That is definitely an option. I saw one at a show with those colors and it was really sharp looking. Like I told another, I'm going to paint some test spoons and see how they look with actual paint. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @user-bt3fy5gd3n
    @user-bt3fy5gd3nАй бұрын

    @skipsmessyworkbench no problem brother!

  • @rayrussell6258
    @rayrussell6258Ай бұрын

    I would suggest just painting the rim of the steering wheel (and the column supports where necessary) rather than stripping all the chrome off. The 1:1 steering wheel and column has a lot of chrome. If your interest is the convertible, AMT's '57 T-Bird kit has the soft-top for top-up and a boot for top-down display.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    Thanks. I'll consider that; however, acrylic water based paint does not adhere well to a chromed surface, so I have to give that some thought. Thanks for the tip on the rag top. I didn't know the '57 kit from AMT offered the rag top.

  • @AmateurScaleModelBuildi-lj3so
    @AmateurScaleModelBuildi-lj3soАй бұрын

    Wow! Had no idea how much work would be going into his lights. Really amazing

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    It could be that I'm anal 😂🤣. But really, there isn't a lot of room and I want to try doing the whole animation with Arduino's. I say Arduino's because the MP3 player seems to use a lot of Arduino resources so at this time I'm planning on the sound having it's own Arduino. Thanks for watching. Updates will be coming soon.

  • @THROTTLEPOWER
    @THROTTLEPOWERАй бұрын

    Nice unboxing Skip

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    Thanks Tim.

  • @michaelcooke2559
    @michaelcooke2559Ай бұрын

    Nice look at the kit. Thanks for sharing.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    You're welcome. Thanks for watching.

  • @lancerevell5979
    @lancerevell5979Ай бұрын

    I have this kit in my stash, but haven't built it. I too love the 1955 through 1957, hate the 1958 through 1960, then love the 1961 through 1966 Birds. Then they botched it again. I have mixed views on the later "Retrobird". 😊

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    Yes...Ford really made some bad decision on this beautiful car, at least in my opinion and apparently yours. 😊

  • @dalekloka7069
    @dalekloka7069Ай бұрын

    Hi, I have that kit, and can’t wait to see what you do with it.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    Did you build it? If so, is it on your KZread channel?

  • @dalekloka7069
    @dalekloka7069Ай бұрын

    Haven’t built it yet. I don’t have a channel.

  • @rayrussell6258
    @rayrussell6258Ай бұрын

    If it's a body that's only available in diecast, and sometimes that happens, I wouldn't be against buying and building a diecast like this. Really you should be more proud of this, Skip. It really looks good. I'm sure if you took just a bit more time, you'd work out the fit and paint issues like the hood, and be greatly satisfied with the diecast, even to the point you'd try another. I would display that if I'd built it, definitely. The old 1:1 Model A's have some paint and fit issues, don't they? 😃

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    Thanks for the encouragement. I am happy with it, but I really don't like working with die cast. I do have another one just like this. I bought two at the time. One box was marked 1928 Model 'A' and the other 1931 Model 'A'; however, in the box they are identical kits, so maybe down the road I'll build the other one. I also have a 1:16 scale 1931 Model 'A' made by Minicraft. I wanted to build them because I had helped my neighbor restore a 1929 Model 'A'. I had such a good time doing that restoration, although his was all black. I guess that's why I always love those years of Model 'A's. His niece still has the car in the garage and I've been after her to sell it to me, but she won't budge. Thanks again my friend.

  • @lancerevell5979
    @lancerevell5979Ай бұрын

    Looks pretty good. 😊 I've only built one model car kit with a diecast body, back in the late 1970s in my Airforce enlistment. It was an MGTC, about 1/20 scale I think. Haven't had a hankering to do another, though I have bought a few 1/18 and 1/24 diecast cars.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    It was an experience. It's a good kit, I just learned that I don't like working with die cast.

  • @JazzStrat781
    @JazzStrat781Ай бұрын

    Looks like a great job 👍 I love those Hubley Model A's! Best to you and yours

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    Thanks. It is a good kit and although I say I don't want to display it, I will because it did turn out better than I expected. What I learned is that I don't like working with die cast.

  • @michaelhintzmikesminiature1812
    @michaelhintzmikesminiature1812Ай бұрын

    I'm behind on videos. Hope your feeling better. Love ling the rescue. I'll be watching

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbenchАй бұрын

    I too am waaaaay behind on video's. Thanks and I'm almost 100% again.

  • @plasticbuzzardmodelshop9715
    @plasticbuzzardmodelshop97152 ай бұрын

    Get well soon Skip.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench2 ай бұрын

    That is my plan.

  • @seamybmw
    @seamybmw2 ай бұрын

    Get well soon Skip👍👍

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench2 ай бұрын

    Thank. I hope to.

  • @Jeffsmodelgarage
    @Jeffsmodelgarage2 ай бұрын

    Hope you feel better soon skip

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench2 ай бұрын

    Thank. It is my plan.

  • @garyparker2969
    @garyparker29692 ай бұрын

    Sorry To Hear You're Down Skip . Sounds Like You Need To Take Some Emergen-C 1,000,mg Vitamin C Daily Immune Support. They're @ Walmart, Walgreens, I'll Do a Couple Packets a Week & They Seem To Me Stay Healthier. Well I'll Be Praying For God's Speed In Your Recovery Amen and Amen, Jesus Christ LIVES ❤️❤️❤️🙏🤗 Gary.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for suggestion. This is the first time I've been sick in well over 10-years. The last time was also bronchitis.

  • @linkpoison5511
    @linkpoison55112 ай бұрын

    Nice build. I have that kit and I'm looking forward to building it.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench2 ай бұрын

    Thanks! It's a nice kit and a good build. If you want to see my build photos please visit my website: www.skipsmessyworkbench.com/54_Hudson.html I also found a few issues with the kit. I have them listed on my website: www.skipsmessyworkbench.com/54_Hudson_Issues.html. My website is best viewed on a computer. Because of the number of photos the site can sometimes take a few minutes to load everything.

  • @smithgroove945
    @smithgroove9452 ай бұрын

    Very cool. 👍Great work on the Electronics. I would look into a simple alternating blinking LED circuit using a simple IC chip and battery. It's a much smaller package for the body. Great experiment with the Servo👍 Last time I had looked at an oscilloscope wave from was my pulse modulation days😂

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench2 ай бұрын

    Thanks. Yes...I'm still looking around for alternative methods so that everything can be self contained, especially since I would like to add moving feet tread and using an RC controller. I'm having FUN!!!! Thanks for watching and thanks again for the feedback. I truly appreciate it. Any help, any time is very much appreciated. Thanks again!!!!

  • @ungurdani8346
    @ungurdani83462 ай бұрын

    Salut my friend super car super video subscribe subscribe .

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench2 ай бұрын

    Thanks. It's almost finished. Just waiting for a warm day so that I can put a coat of gloss clear on it out side.

  • @thomasneal7126
    @thomasneal71262 ай бұрын

    I have started using Rust Oleum automotive primer on my diecast cars and it has been great. It adheres great to the metal and dries very fast. I was having trouble with the previous primer peeling off when I needed to do any tape masking for paint jobs and I have not had that problem since I started using the Rust Oleum Automotive primer. It also goes on thin so as not to cover fine details in the diecast. Overall very happy with it. Your mileage may very.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the suggestion. I can't use solvent based paint because I can't vent my spray booth to the outside world, and, it's been too cold here in PA to paint outside. I found that using Vallejo primer and paint is Ok. However, when masking, the Tamiya masking tape will pull the primer and paint off, but painters blue tape will not. I'm almost finished with it. I just need to wait for a warm day to put a coat of clear on the body. Vallejo paints dry flat. Like I said in my video, it's a nice kit, but I will not be doing a die cast again anytime in the near or distant future. Thanks again for the tip, I appreciate it.

  • @WAL_DC-6B
    @WAL_DC-6B2 ай бұрын

    Does that "Scale Models" Model A kit include windows of any sort?

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench2 ай бұрын

    No. There are no clear parts.

  • @WAL_DC-6B
    @WAL_DC-6B2 ай бұрын

    @@skipsmessyworkbench Thanks for your response! I purchased a built-up "Scale Models" Ford Model A in taxicab markings yesterday at an antique shop in Wisconsin. The model was very nicely put together and decorated. It's just that it didn't have any windows and I was wondering if the original kit had any which apparently is not the case (at least for you and me!).

  • @AmateurScaleModelBuildi-lj3so
    @AmateurScaleModelBuildi-lj3so3 ай бұрын

    Great up date, lookin' great. Praise God that the chrome was interchangeable

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench2 ай бұрын

    Actually, I'm not sure if it is interchangeable? The two kits look the same, but we'll see. Actually, if it isn't, I don't think I really care. Like I mentioned in my video intro, these die cast kits are not my cup of coffee.

  • @user-bp8kx1ul6m
    @user-bp8kx1ul6m3 ай бұрын

    I’ve built 15 of these die cast models and find them to be very difficult. The actual Hubley kits go together far better than either the Scale Model or Gabriel kits. The hardest part for me is the pre-assembly prior to painting. Every screw is an enormous struggle but has to be done before you have paint on the model.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench2 ай бұрын

    I haven't found it difficult...yet. The little bit of assembly that I did was not difficult. What I do find annoying is that because I use water based acrylic paint, it looks like it's not going to stick well to the surface, I was adding some detail to the engine yesterday and noticed that just my finger nail made a small paint nick on the transmission. Like I said in my video intro, I won't do another one. I wouldn't even finish this one, but I have a thing about finishing what I start. 😀

  • @JazzStrat781
    @JazzStrat7813 ай бұрын

    Looks awesome 👍 keep up the great work!

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @charlie418791
    @charlie4187913 ай бұрын

    Excellent progress. 👍

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thanks Charlie! I'm catching up on watching your tank build. I think I have 4-more to watch. It looks great!

  • @mattomon1045
    @mattomon10453 ай бұрын

    It ts looking great fill gaps in the body with C A glue it works great !

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thanks. Yes...I know CA glue would work but at this time I'm not going to seal them up. Of course, once it's together I might change my mind. Things like that [do] bother me. 😁

  • @AmateurScaleModelBuildi-lj3so
    @AmateurScaleModelBuildi-lj3so3 ай бұрын

    Lookin' pretty great! I'm looking forward to seeing how Robot is comin along. I love the end screen brother! Amen

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thanks. I just finished the first round of clean up on the '28 Ford and now need to wash and prime. There is/was A LOT of clean up on the die cast parts. I've also been experimenting with the electronics for the robot. I will most likely be making a video about that in a day to so. Life has just been busy. Thanks again.

  • @mattomon1045
    @mattomon10453 ай бұрын

    With the body and the hood usa some c a glue and activator even to fill the seams

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thanks. I was thinking about doing that, so thanks for confirming it.

  • @GrumpyGregsModelsandToys
    @GrumpyGregsModelsandToys3 ай бұрын

    Looks like a great project, Skip 👍 What area of PA are you if you don’t mind? I just subscribed and look forward to seeing more 😎

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the sub. I'm in Northampton County, in what's called the Lehigh Valley, which is Eastern PA about 50-miles north of Philly and about 6-miles from the Jersey border. You might know the town if I tell you I live about 1/4-mile away from Mario Andretti and when I was working I did some controls work for Martin Guitar Company. Thanks again.

  • @GrumpyGregsModelsandToys
    @GrumpyGregsModelsandToys3 ай бұрын

    @@skipsmessyworkbench Nazareth! We pass through there quite often on the way to NJ 👍 I am in Western New York 😎

  • @charlie418791
    @charlie4187913 ай бұрын

    Like I said....clean up's a bitch. Nice progress. 👍

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Oh...I believed you Charlie. It's really not too bad. I see that there is a small gap between the back of the roof and the body, so I'm not sure how I'll handle that? Any suggestions?

  • @dorfsteen
    @dorfsteen3 ай бұрын

    Aren't the Mobius kits really really expensive.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    I guess it's all relative as to what you call expensive. They are not much more than any other kit. As an example, The B9 robot is $43.99 at Burbank House of Hobby. They are out of stock at this writing. I've paid more than that for AMT or Revell cars. Prices have been going up on everything. Actually, I paid more for the Aoshima Back to the Future DeLorean's than any of the Moebius kits I've bought. The other thing about Moebius and Aoshima kits. They are high quality. I've never had any warped parts and everything fits well with very little filing and/or sanding. It's the old adage...you get what you pay for.

  • @EmmettLBrown2015
    @EmmettLBrown20153 ай бұрын

    Awesome build my friend!

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thanks! it was a fun build. I'm thinking of getting another one so make it with the rail wheels on it.

  • @mattomon1045
    @mattomon10453 ай бұрын

    I have the victoria I built it back in 1973 yes I still have it it is a great kit but you need a good file. if a 13 year old can assemble it so you !

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    I've started doing the clean up. There is a lot of clean up that I didn't see at first. I'm using a dremel tool to do some of it and files in tight places. I had to use Loctite on the engine halves. The one screw wasn't enough to hold the halves together without a large gap. But so far so good. Thanks!!!!

  • @brianlewis6926
    @brianlewis69263 ай бұрын

    Thats cool, How tall is it?

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    I think it should stand just over a foot tall. An unofficial source states that the original B9 stood 6'8". At 1:6 scale that would put it at just over 12".

  • @dmgscalemodels2825
    @dmgscalemodels28253 ай бұрын

    I built several when I was a kid. Where did you find this?

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Ebay. I bought it several years ago. I checked the other day and they still have some.

  • @dmgscalemodels2825
    @dmgscalemodels28253 ай бұрын

    A clean workbench means you haven't started a new project yet! I am STILL waiting for the Robot model kit to come in to the Model store!

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    I got this one at Burbank House of Hobby's. They seem to have everything I ever searched for, although yesterday (2/10/24) I went online to buy another one and they were sold out. I rarely buy at my local hobby shop because they are always understocked and the place is a mess. I've been buying almost everything online. I hate to do that to the local shops, but if they're not going to keep stock and keep the store clean and organized, they're biting their own nose off to spite their face.

  • @thescalemodelcarguychannel8681
    @thescalemodelcarguychannel86813 ай бұрын

    Very cool projects Skip❤😊

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    It should be fun. Thanks

  • @charlie418791
    @charlie4187913 ай бұрын

    I've built several Hubley kits. The hardest part was the clean-up. As to painting it , you need to prime it first. Most of it screws together. You also may have to use Super Glue on the plastic. Regular glue didn't work on the Hubley. Good luck.

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thank Charlie. I knew I'd be using super glue and I also knew I'd be priming. Did you have to treat the die cast with anything first? I'm assuming it should be sanded before priming?

  • @charlie418791
    @charlie4187913 ай бұрын

    Nope. Wash it. Sand it. Prime it.

  • @basicminiaturepainting
    @basicminiaturepainting3 ай бұрын

    Looks good

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thanks. These were really run builds.

  • @terrykerswell9121
    @terrykerswell91213 ай бұрын

    I had this kit once many years ago but I never built it, I was not into model cars back then and now I could kick my butt for losing it. I want to build a model A four door I but now I can’t even find one 🥴. I plan on following you one this project 🪄🌧️👍👍

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    I saw a couple on ebay recently. They range from $30 to $50 if you're interested.

  • @jtodora
    @jtodora3 ай бұрын

    Interesting kit. Good luck. 😀

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thanks, you too!

  • @jtodora
    @jtodora3 ай бұрын

    Looks really great!!!

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @scalemodeloutlaw
    @scalemodeloutlaw3 ай бұрын

    Just found your channel and gave you a sub. Great content i look forward to following along

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your kind words and thank you for the sub.

  • @pappytinkers
    @pappytinkers4 ай бұрын

    Sweet! I saved some of the great looking ones from the USACC build till last. Man that's a bummer about the paint! I think you can still save it tho. And either way it's gonna look good on the shelf!

  • @skipsmessyworkbench
    @skipsmessyworkbench3 ай бұрын

    Thanks. Yes, it is a bummer. My weak spot in the hobby is painting. I'm getting better, but as you can see... It's also the first time I used Vallejo Gloss Varnish (their clear coat). I should have used more thinner and I think I should have shot it at a higher psi. I live in eastern PA and if it was warm I would have sprayed Krylon Clear outside, but it's too cold to paint outside this time of the year. Anyway...thanks.

  • @pappytinkers
    @pappytinkers3 ай бұрын

    @@skipsmessyworkbench I'm new to these water based clears too, but they are very temperature sensitive. I did mine when it was 53 degrees and still had trouble. I used to live in in Ohio so I know what it's like trying to paint in the winter lol