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Turn 8-10 you can get a tier 5 settlement if you do it right
@ArbaaltheundefeatedКүн бұрын
Not cheesing the stupid AI with BS exploit tactics neither constitutes making a mistake, nor needing to learn how to play Dwarves.
@milansvancaraКүн бұрын
At this point I honestly don't know if all the Warhammer streamers are just memeing with that skaven ''YES YES'' line, or at this point the meme phase has gotten so far that everyone is repeating it subconsciously:D
@BattleseyttvКүн бұрын
If I'm not mistaken in lore skaven don't actually repeat words but the meme is too engrained at this point not to repeat 🤷
@ditahor2 күн бұрын
2:35:01 he did not expect the VERMINTIDE in chat xD
@alphawolf19193 күн бұрын
It's cool to see how single player people interrupt the multiplayer meta when compared to commentators like turin, human boy, and tactical litch
@BattleseyttvКүн бұрын
I hope in a good way! I love the MP scene and want to put on more really cool events.
@alphawolf1919Күн бұрын
@@Battleseyttv course my man new ideas are always welcome thanks for hosting a cool event
@Nightreaper865 күн бұрын
i cant wait for sfo
@Condeycon4 күн бұрын
Same brother, vanilla just doesn't hit the same.
@SugaryCoyote5 күн бұрын
The results can't be questioned but what kind of elf fights en masse straight down the middle?
@mercb3ast6 күн бұрын
On release, Daniel could turn daemonic units into absolute murder machines, on a level no other lord could attain. His peak personal performance was as a giga mortis engine. His early game was basically just run as a mortis engine, and mid/late game, when your giga juiced up exalted bloodletters came online, well, the game was already over. He was definitely NOT bad in the campaign. He just wasn't as sexy as other campaigns, and a lot of people dislike the fact he didn't get items.
@toddoreilly7466 күн бұрын
the warhound won my sub, ggz
@pickleinspector59487 күн бұрын
Great tournament! Fun energy and props to the crazy long stream, hope there is more in the future
@TjayK27 күн бұрын
Use the recruit dead legendary lords mod and wallah. If you have the income you can take in their factions if they die.
@Har1ByWorld8 күн бұрын
With amout of cheese you just proposed just change name of the channel to "legend of total war 2.0" cuz that guy too cant play and only cheese
@ServantofBaal8 күн бұрын
The gromril thing makes sense, but that’s op from a mechanics perspective; particularly for an already super powerful faction
@Assassinss779 күн бұрын
I have an idea for the next vid: Stop taking so much damage as any faction! Run 40 minutes to waste all the ammo then do a bit more to waste all the winds of magic.
@TjayK210 күн бұрын
If you’re in the position where you can support both of these items the campaign is already over and you might as well start a new one on a higher difficulty. Just being able to support one of these items is difficult when you’re already the strongest faction. To be able to support 2 of them you’d have to of dominated almost 50% of the map. With that being said if you do end up trying to support both just frontline your Lord and invest in 5-7 range units. It’s all you will need for the entire campaign. You can just AFK on the frontline with your lord spamming the crown/sword and use the rangers to clean everything else up. Would also atleast make your fights somewhat interesting instead of steamrolling the entire map.
@jamesespinosa69010 күн бұрын
Cheesing sucks and is boring and gay. Please make a good video with actual tactics at some point please. It sucks that all you tubers are lame ass cheesers.
@magnumdong186210 күн бұрын
Will the Drazoath campaign continue?
@MrFat45510 күн бұрын
He said he would in the stream. Had a tough day and didn’t want to play a tough campaign. Fair enough.
@magnumdong186210 күн бұрын
@@MrFat455Fair cheers
@Battleseyttv10 күн бұрын
Thanks guys it will continue indeed! Glad you guys are enjoying it, The problem is one mistake can cost me 20 hours of work so I'm making sure to be ready for the challenge :p
@synth71210 күн бұрын
The last dlc of wh3 is nagash and nefertari
@gregoryshinn980510 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video
@ClumsySaunter11 күн бұрын
i have 3 armies squashing 400 grudge armies or settlements every other turn and still get skruff. this system is just broken right now
@user-sn1un2um9t11 күн бұрын
International relations left the chat
@alexxu300411 күн бұрын
I'd go for flamer build rather than chopper for early game, lots more damage, lot cheaper to be effective
@elite_rock_god229211 күн бұрын
I never used the slayer pirates, are they even worth it? Typically just use alot of cannons with grape shot and a few shotgunners and gg🤣
@shamanahaboolist9 күн бұрын
they're ok but kinda meh. like most hybrids if you have 2 of them you'd be better having 1 ranged and 1 melee that are specialised instead. 1 quarrellers with some slayers in front are better I think.
@elite_rock_god22928 күн бұрын
@shamanahaboolist ye like I appreciate they are a option. But I always go with cannons and organ guns and some shotguns 🤣
@sandrothenecromancer681011 күн бұрын
The theory is that 40k is inside a bottle in the colleges of mages, atleast it makes that shame of end times less damaging.
@bigredmarchingon320011 күн бұрын
Yes
@guinnessd353312 күн бұрын
Boooring... Gyrocopter..
@Dejawolfs8 күн бұрын
it's basically how i used tictactoe until it got boring :P
@ilhamtssar12 күн бұрын
Can't wait to see your livestream again 👍
@Calswei12 күн бұрын
RIP Vlad
@jannbo433612 күн бұрын
Watch vid see dog instant like
@radimmeduna576412 күн бұрын
3:00 This is crazy, just shows how the AI that hasn't been updated since Medieval 2 and has no clue what to do against flying units 🤣🤣I hope they will make the AI better in this game before going on to a different Total War game.
@Insideoutcest12 күн бұрын
it works up until the enemy has nothing but skirmish type units in their armies or any amount of flying units that arent aggrod. it will also fail miserably in very hard combat difficulty often because of the priority targeting and other AI behavior.
@Object753312 күн бұрын
Kind of a misleading title for a video that basically only tells you "Gyros currently are OP & this is how to use them" :D ... Also I wouldn't necessarily call "not using a cheesy OP army" a mistake :D ... I utilize it because I am a lazy bastard, but many players will surely find it boring
@majorfallacy592612 күн бұрын
"Stop making these mistakes" The mistakes: playing the game as intended instead of cheesing the ever living crap out of a faulty AI. That's the equivalent of only playing stealth archer in Skyrim.
@Object753312 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video! ... it would have been nice if you had also added a few words on how the number of grudges required for the next AoR are actually calculated (bordering factions etc.?) to make it a more comprehensive guide. Most of what you explained is also not a thing I can influence very much if I play the dwarven side ... Nontheless very informative! Appreciate the time it took to dissect that system ... if only CA would value their players time more and simply add "rulebooks" for ingame mechanics, instead of making guys like you figure it out for the playerbase ...
@jacawandersmok904312 күн бұрын
see sheell wll in minature picture brain : YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!
@Thedefenses12 күн бұрын
"Stop Making These Mistakes As Dwarfs". so just recruit gyrocopters and cheese the enemy AI, yeah seems about right.
@muhammadsaduddin30812 күн бұрын
Too bad the brimstone variant is so much shit. Worst unit in the dwarf roster.
@alistairbolden634012 күн бұрын
4 units of slayers with pistols would have killed vlad a hell of a lot faster.
@R3GARnator12 күн бұрын
Cheese for the Cheese God!
@theghostoftom12 күн бұрын
This is why i just auto resolve vs dwarf air force spam. Just a broken mess of small erratically moving spread out flying entities able to dish out well over their cost in damage before an entire army of missile units can do anything to them. Add to that airships which can outrun dragons and it goes from a battle into an exercise in frustration. Someone on CA team loves dwarfs and doesn't give a 💩 about balance.
@Insideoutcest12 күн бұрын
i auto resolved malakai because i didnt want to fight a fucking ghost blimp
@Grauer3312 күн бұрын
Sorry, i did not get how to make copters hover over enemy witjout attack order. Alt + which key?
@Battleseyttv12 күн бұрын
Alt + Drag with left click :)
@Grauer3312 күн бұрын
@@Battleseyttv thank you man!
@JimRFF12 күн бұрын
@@Grauer33 just for extra clarity: hold Alt then left-click-and-hold on your unit, as long as you keep left click held down you can let go of the Alt key now; you should be able to see the formation footprint under your cursor, and you can drag it anywhere on the battlefield, wherever you "release" the click that's where the unit will walk to... but there is one more trick: while holding the left click down and moving the footprint, you can also hold the Ctrl key and then the footprint will freeze in place and moving the mouse will change the direction the unit will face; this allows you to very precisely position any unit without an attack order
@Grauer3312 күн бұрын
@@JimRFF REALLY apprecited! Have a great day, Sir!
@JimRFF12 күн бұрын
@@Grauer33 no problem! The alt-move thing is one of those tricks the game never really tries to tell you is a thing in the first place, but it's pretty simple once you learn it and it can really change how you play the game and position your units (ESPECIALLY for any flying units with "drop bomb" type abilities haha)
@Insideoutcest12 күн бұрын
this will not work if they have even one large flying entity or are dark elves. gyros get eaten alive use maybe 4-5 max. dont listen to this video.
@Insideoutcest12 күн бұрын
"stop making these mistakes..." *immediately tells you to cheese* okay?
@danielgloyd452912 күн бұрын
Your mistake was not cheesing hard enough.
@faeezf12 күн бұрын
Can the vampire bats spam counter the gyrocopters?
@ryanmcfall112712 күн бұрын
yes, if you have about 1-1 numbers. Gyrocopters in melee are trash
@danielgloyd452912 күн бұрын
Bats will absolutely dumpster gyros.
@47ravenlord12 күн бұрын
I think what he meant by the title of this video was stop making the mistakes HE makes in this video, lol. Having your gyro's spaz out at all times, in all directions, while laying down ineffective fire, missing bombing opportunities, etc, etc is a good way to get a horrible battle like the one he showcases. 5 gyro's focus firing will delete a ranged unit VERY quickly.....focus your gyro's on their ranged units, erase them, and then EFFECTIVELY bomb their blobbed units when there is nothing left on the map that can even fire back. He toys with the ranged units and takes massive damage while allowing them to remain on the battlefield and even put volley's into his line while he is rushing them all over the place....not effective whatsoever. Battlesey....you seem like a nice guy, but you really should do a bit of research on how to effectively use a unit before making a video trying to tell other people how to use them.
@Insideoutcest12 күн бұрын
gyros are so bad at air defense i wouldnt try it again personally. thats about the only weakness. maybe ammo eventually.
@Loj8412 күн бұрын
It obviously depends on the army comp, but imo it’s usually better to simply take out their missile units with the gyros early on. I generally take 4 regular gyros and 1 trollhammer per army. I bait flying units away from the missile units and kill them, then take out the missile units, then the lord, then every other single entity, and the armies usually meet right around then. Obviously prioritizing only large units with the trollhammer.
@DragonsAnvil12 күн бұрын
Great video! Really been enjoying lurking in the streams! Are you still planning on releasing this as more of a guide?
@Battleseyttv12 күн бұрын
Definitely, but it's proving difficult - it'll be postponed for now :)
@DragonsAnvil12 күн бұрын
@@Battleseyttv no worries! It was interesting to see the difference between your meta start and that of ElvenPlotArmor. I definitely like having the gyrocopters so early!
@brentonherbert777512 күн бұрын
A few things i do differently in my own battles is focus fire. And iron drakes first depending on who you're fighting. In fact i forgo any income or basic buildings just to get a gyro iron drake formation going. Also yes having 5 different copters going 5 different directions is all well and good. But 5 focus firing a single unit in my opinion is WAY better. At least starting off. Why? Because instead of running from the archers all game if you take them out first (Really easily, again depending on the army but this early in game you're going to be taking out MULTIPLE models each burst) And then that leaves you fully free to engage anything else at will. When fighting skrag i like to focus him first to get the moral losses in and then it makes breaking his armies a lot easier. And all while my 3 badly damaged units are off in a bush watching a 20 stack of ogres try to figure out what is going on. Do not under estimate the ability to fully remove specific units instead of chipping away at multiple and doing arguably nothing. Oh and iron drakes are just funny period. Hide em in a treeline. Send em down city streets. Onto city walls even when attacking. Undead armies are the funniest stuff and so are greenskins to say nothing of the sheer amount of toasted rats you'll be racking up when you hit that 5 second reload speed.
@arthanor963112 күн бұрын
Too many entities, too much speed, too much ammo. Those things are busted. For a prototype, they sure look like a realized masterpiece.
@riccardo393e713 күн бұрын
The problem is filling the grudge bar
@Pall_Bearmasher13 күн бұрын
You also have to micro them so they won't shoot other units of gyros in cross fire
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Turn 8-10 you can get a tier 5 settlement if you do it right
Not cheesing the stupid AI with BS exploit tactics neither constitutes making a mistake, nor needing to learn how to play Dwarves.
At this point I honestly don't know if all the Warhammer streamers are just memeing with that skaven ''YES YES'' line, or at this point the meme phase has gotten so far that everyone is repeating it subconsciously:D
If I'm not mistaken in lore skaven don't actually repeat words but the meme is too engrained at this point not to repeat 🤷
2:35:01 he did not expect the VERMINTIDE in chat xD
It's cool to see how single player people interrupt the multiplayer meta when compared to commentators like turin, human boy, and tactical litch
I hope in a good way! I love the MP scene and want to put on more really cool events.
@@Battleseyttv course my man new ideas are always welcome thanks for hosting a cool event
i cant wait for sfo
Same brother, vanilla just doesn't hit the same.
The results can't be questioned but what kind of elf fights en masse straight down the middle?
On release, Daniel could turn daemonic units into absolute murder machines, on a level no other lord could attain. His peak personal performance was as a giga mortis engine. His early game was basically just run as a mortis engine, and mid/late game, when your giga juiced up exalted bloodletters came online, well, the game was already over. He was definitely NOT bad in the campaign. He just wasn't as sexy as other campaigns, and a lot of people dislike the fact he didn't get items.
the warhound won my sub, ggz
Great tournament! Fun energy and props to the crazy long stream, hope there is more in the future
Use the recruit dead legendary lords mod and wallah. If you have the income you can take in their factions if they die.
With amout of cheese you just proposed just change name of the channel to "legend of total war 2.0" cuz that guy too cant play and only cheese
The gromril thing makes sense, but that’s op from a mechanics perspective; particularly for an already super powerful faction
I have an idea for the next vid: Stop taking so much damage as any faction! Run 40 minutes to waste all the ammo then do a bit more to waste all the winds of magic.
If you’re in the position where you can support both of these items the campaign is already over and you might as well start a new one on a higher difficulty. Just being able to support one of these items is difficult when you’re already the strongest faction. To be able to support 2 of them you’d have to of dominated almost 50% of the map. With that being said if you do end up trying to support both just frontline your Lord and invest in 5-7 range units. It’s all you will need for the entire campaign. You can just AFK on the frontline with your lord spamming the crown/sword and use the rangers to clean everything else up. Would also atleast make your fights somewhat interesting instead of steamrolling the entire map.
Cheesing sucks and is boring and gay. Please make a good video with actual tactics at some point please. It sucks that all you tubers are lame ass cheesers.
Will the Drazoath campaign continue?
He said he would in the stream. Had a tough day and didn’t want to play a tough campaign. Fair enough.
@@MrFat455Fair cheers
Thanks guys it will continue indeed! Glad you guys are enjoying it, The problem is one mistake can cost me 20 hours of work so I'm making sure to be ready for the challenge :p
The last dlc of wh3 is nagash and nefertari
Thanks for the video
i have 3 armies squashing 400 grudge armies or settlements every other turn and still get skruff. this system is just broken right now
International relations left the chat
I'd go for flamer build rather than chopper for early game, lots more damage, lot cheaper to be effective
I never used the slayer pirates, are they even worth it? Typically just use alot of cannons with grape shot and a few shotgunners and gg🤣
they're ok but kinda meh. like most hybrids if you have 2 of them you'd be better having 1 ranged and 1 melee that are specialised instead. 1 quarrellers with some slayers in front are better I think.
@shamanahaboolist ye like I appreciate they are a option. But I always go with cannons and organ guns and some shotguns 🤣
The theory is that 40k is inside a bottle in the colleges of mages, atleast it makes that shame of end times less damaging.
Yes
Boooring... Gyrocopter..
it's basically how i used tictactoe until it got boring :P
Can't wait to see your livestream again 👍
RIP Vlad
Watch vid see dog instant like
3:00 This is crazy, just shows how the AI that hasn't been updated since Medieval 2 and has no clue what to do against flying units 🤣🤣I hope they will make the AI better in this game before going on to a different Total War game.
it works up until the enemy has nothing but skirmish type units in their armies or any amount of flying units that arent aggrod. it will also fail miserably in very hard combat difficulty often because of the priority targeting and other AI behavior.
Kind of a misleading title for a video that basically only tells you "Gyros currently are OP & this is how to use them" :D ... Also I wouldn't necessarily call "not using a cheesy OP army" a mistake :D ... I utilize it because I am a lazy bastard, but many players will surely find it boring
"Stop making these mistakes" The mistakes: playing the game as intended instead of cheesing the ever living crap out of a faulty AI. That's the equivalent of only playing stealth archer in Skyrim.
Thank you for the video! ... it would have been nice if you had also added a few words on how the number of grudges required for the next AoR are actually calculated (bordering factions etc.?) to make it a more comprehensive guide. Most of what you explained is also not a thing I can influence very much if I play the dwarven side ... Nontheless very informative! Appreciate the time it took to dissect that system ... if only CA would value their players time more and simply add "rulebooks" for ingame mechanics, instead of making guys like you figure it out for the playerbase ...
see sheell wll in minature picture brain : YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!
"Stop Making These Mistakes As Dwarfs". so just recruit gyrocopters and cheese the enemy AI, yeah seems about right.
Too bad the brimstone variant is so much shit. Worst unit in the dwarf roster.
4 units of slayers with pistols would have killed vlad a hell of a lot faster.
Cheese for the Cheese God!
This is why i just auto resolve vs dwarf air force spam. Just a broken mess of small erratically moving spread out flying entities able to dish out well over their cost in damage before an entire army of missile units can do anything to them. Add to that airships which can outrun dragons and it goes from a battle into an exercise in frustration. Someone on CA team loves dwarfs and doesn't give a 💩 about balance.
i auto resolved malakai because i didnt want to fight a fucking ghost blimp
Sorry, i did not get how to make copters hover over enemy witjout attack order. Alt + which key?
Alt + Drag with left click :)
@@Battleseyttv thank you man!
@@Grauer33 just for extra clarity: hold Alt then left-click-and-hold on your unit, as long as you keep left click held down you can let go of the Alt key now; you should be able to see the formation footprint under your cursor, and you can drag it anywhere on the battlefield, wherever you "release" the click that's where the unit will walk to... but there is one more trick: while holding the left click down and moving the footprint, you can also hold the Ctrl key and then the footprint will freeze in place and moving the mouse will change the direction the unit will face; this allows you to very precisely position any unit without an attack order
@@JimRFF REALLY apprecited! Have a great day, Sir!
@@Grauer33 no problem! The alt-move thing is one of those tricks the game never really tries to tell you is a thing in the first place, but it's pretty simple once you learn it and it can really change how you play the game and position your units (ESPECIALLY for any flying units with "drop bomb" type abilities haha)
this will not work if they have even one large flying entity or are dark elves. gyros get eaten alive use maybe 4-5 max. dont listen to this video.
"stop making these mistakes..." *immediately tells you to cheese* okay?
Your mistake was not cheesing hard enough.
Can the vampire bats spam counter the gyrocopters?
yes, if you have about 1-1 numbers. Gyrocopters in melee are trash
Bats will absolutely dumpster gyros.
I think what he meant by the title of this video was stop making the mistakes HE makes in this video, lol. Having your gyro's spaz out at all times, in all directions, while laying down ineffective fire, missing bombing opportunities, etc, etc is a good way to get a horrible battle like the one he showcases. 5 gyro's focus firing will delete a ranged unit VERY quickly.....focus your gyro's on their ranged units, erase them, and then EFFECTIVELY bomb their blobbed units when there is nothing left on the map that can even fire back. He toys with the ranged units and takes massive damage while allowing them to remain on the battlefield and even put volley's into his line while he is rushing them all over the place....not effective whatsoever. Battlesey....you seem like a nice guy, but you really should do a bit of research on how to effectively use a unit before making a video trying to tell other people how to use them.
gyros are so bad at air defense i wouldnt try it again personally. thats about the only weakness. maybe ammo eventually.
It obviously depends on the army comp, but imo it’s usually better to simply take out their missile units with the gyros early on. I generally take 4 regular gyros and 1 trollhammer per army. I bait flying units away from the missile units and kill them, then take out the missile units, then the lord, then every other single entity, and the armies usually meet right around then. Obviously prioritizing only large units with the trollhammer.
Great video! Really been enjoying lurking in the streams! Are you still planning on releasing this as more of a guide?
Definitely, but it's proving difficult - it'll be postponed for now :)
@@Battleseyttv no worries! It was interesting to see the difference between your meta start and that of ElvenPlotArmor. I definitely like having the gyrocopters so early!
A few things i do differently in my own battles is focus fire. And iron drakes first depending on who you're fighting. In fact i forgo any income or basic buildings just to get a gyro iron drake formation going. Also yes having 5 different copters going 5 different directions is all well and good. But 5 focus firing a single unit in my opinion is WAY better. At least starting off. Why? Because instead of running from the archers all game if you take them out first (Really easily, again depending on the army but this early in game you're going to be taking out MULTIPLE models each burst) And then that leaves you fully free to engage anything else at will. When fighting skrag i like to focus him first to get the moral losses in and then it makes breaking his armies a lot easier. And all while my 3 badly damaged units are off in a bush watching a 20 stack of ogres try to figure out what is going on. Do not under estimate the ability to fully remove specific units instead of chipping away at multiple and doing arguably nothing. Oh and iron drakes are just funny period. Hide em in a treeline. Send em down city streets. Onto city walls even when attacking. Undead armies are the funniest stuff and so are greenskins to say nothing of the sheer amount of toasted rats you'll be racking up when you hit that 5 second reload speed.
Too many entities, too much speed, too much ammo. Those things are busted. For a prototype, they sure look like a realized masterpiece.
The problem is filling the grudge bar
You also have to micro them so they won't shoot other units of gyros in cross fire