Me leí los comics tras jugar al juego y no estoy de acuerdo en que no se explore al personaje de Bigby. Si hay un desarrollo del personaje (desde el asesinato de Rosa Roja, su relación con Blanca y su padre, su huida de Fabletown...) como lo hay de otros personajes que el juego aprovecha para desarrollar en los diálogos (Además de la linea principal que sería Fables, había comics exclusivos con cuentos que explicaban los orígenes de personajes y como habían llegado de las Tierras Natales a NY, como Blanca, Jack, Beauty... Y que juego dinamiza muy bien para mostrar las relaciones de poder y dinamizar el diálogo y que te metas en la historia) El problema es querer ver el cómic como una prolongación del videojuego cuando tanto el estilo de dibujo como la narrativa corresponden a los 2000 y The Wolf Among Us es una adaptación de videojuego ubicada en los gustos de la última década de 2010 además de que en el comic todo se cuenta de poco a poco y el videojuego sintetiza muchísimo. Ahora que lo he jugado de 2 he disfrutado más por las referencias y son muchas y con relación a los comics
@BenReedStrategist2 күн бұрын
This is an awesome video, it deserve waaay more views
@alexvaillustrations86893 күн бұрын
Sometimes I wonder if the big b is just depressed and trying to shorten his life by smoking so much. Cuz Colin says in the game fables live a long time. And with all the crap he has to deal with in the game it wouldn’t shock me if he is depressed and just trying to shorten his own life by smoking but it’s just a theory of mine. (More then welcome to correct me if I’m wrong)
@mrspidey805 күн бұрын
Lets not include the Loot Train Attack in the list of tactically stupid battle depictions in GoT, please. The LTA made perfect sense from both sides from start to finish. Danny had an insane advantage attacking the Lannister Army while they were undeployed and did everything right, from cutting a breach into the impromptu Lannister shield wall and having her Dothraki roll them up from that flank, to focussing on the main objective (destroying the loot), switching to deal with anti air on the fly and finally routing the enemy. The Lannisters did what they could to mount a defense while not being prepared at all. The shield wall made sense against riders but wasn't deep enough and overstretched on account of them not having been deployed for battle.
@RustyShackleford1018 күн бұрын
I said all along that the Dothraki should have been given a means to signal either the defenders or the dragons, then harass the flanks of the army of the dead to the point where they start breaking formation or The Night King was forced to reveal himself and deal with the situation. If he doesn't go after the Dothraki then he's sending bodies away from the main fight, if he does go after them, then the dragons know where to be.
@JackHallowLantern18 күн бұрын
I totally agree with your observation that the comics are more "skin deep" than the game when it comes to exploring character relationships, conflicts, and themes. That was a big disappointment to me when I read the comics...including the spin-off comics/latest releases. I read the comics because the game seemed so interesting, and I immediately fell in love with the concepts, the world, and its characters. It's fun to rewatch playthroughs of The Wolf Among Us with knowledge pertaining to the comics because I can truly see the research and love that went into even the minor details of the game (such as letters from Weyland and foreshadowing of the Farm plot that happens in the comics). Despite my enthusiasm when I first started reading...the comics let me down. Thats not even to touch on the creator's blatant inclusion of his own political views...and the racist potrayal of the Arab Fables in the comic (which makes sense given the hot-blooded, pro-Israel creator's beliefs and the timeline of the comics being written post 9/11). I'm excited for the second game...but it just sucks that I feel almost like I wasted my time reading the comics. I'll be glad if TWAU 2 does a good job exploring nuance and themes and questions/concepts as well as the first game, or, hopefully, even better. As for my future interactions with the comics...jeez, I feel the need to re-write the story in a fanfiction or something just to fix a lot of major flaws and actually do something REWARDING with the concepts, questions, and character relationships it sets up...
@clayrobinett84019 күн бұрын
No. I disagree with all of your theories on objectivity and your proposed re writes. That all sucks hard. It’s actually great as is. I’m glad you were in no way involved in the production of it. Your ideas for a alternate version are very lame.
@TheAdam15925 күн бұрын
The original is one of my favourite shows of all time . Only reboot that i thought decent was the 80s one. The episodes in 2019 show are too damn long. And too preachy
@user-zs6df9sb4i26 күн бұрын
Bro, it's been years now. Still not over it
@richman3424Ай бұрын
You couldn't be more wrong when saying the force isnt important to star wars haha
@IchytАй бұрын
SERLING! ROD SERLING! there is no "t" in this man’s name! Stop calling him Sterling!
@peace-yv4qdАй бұрын
Most modern TV shows and Movies feel the need to preach rather than entertain. Ironically they're preaching to the very ones who cherish the original series. Constantly drilling into the minds of the audience, white people, especially white males, bad every other race good, is tiresome and boring.
@br.writerdiary2905Ай бұрын
Yeah after I was done playing my first time with The Wolf among Us game I was obsessed with the story and heard about the comic books and after I did like and enjoy the comic books the only problem is that one of them eventually left me a cliffhanger and it was a bad one so now I'm just very curious when is the new ones coming back the comic books I mean
@justsomeguy8352Ай бұрын
One of the greatest games ever made bro
@user-bg2nx9ny2q2 ай бұрын
And R.R. Martin should have also brought the weapon ‘s called “machine guns” into the story, lol
@jacklu16112 ай бұрын
By all the gods with each and every new "fixing Game of Thrones" video I watch, my hatred of Dumb&Dumber deepens. The Night King needn't have bothered invading, D&D would have destroyed the world of Ice and Fire all the same.
@Saliha1892 ай бұрын
I genuinely love both the comics and the game. The comic is long though, as I'm a late-comer
@mcreal1092 ай бұрын
Focused too much on being woke sadly
@user-kg2xm6pn1e2 ай бұрын
Serling effort there 🙄
@arcadion4482 ай бұрын
I think the show has proved that Tyrion Lannister is a terrible strategist. He really should not be part of any part of the war planning effort after his disastrous performance in Battle of the Blackwater and Meereen. He can handle the logistics of feeding the army and government. It'd be like Tom Hagen - not a wartime counselor.
@bannedfreespeech2 ай бұрын
Peele isn't as smart as he thinks he is either
@ericnierstedt62423 ай бұрын
I think the biggest problem of this twilight zone is that it’s two on the nose and too long. Most of the episodes I figured out where the plot was going in the first 20 minutes and then I realize they were still another 40 minutes to go. Once you know where it’s going, it’s not that interesting anymore. And even on a few occasions when they did, keep me wondering if usually wasn’ a good pay off. I mean look at the Donald Trump episode to see just how painfully obvious everything was.
@vonnegutfrey87143 ай бұрын
The comic is very good its just not about the same things as the wolf among us; it's more just an incredible fantasy story. It is also probably my favorite comic series ever. In the end, wether you like the games or comics more, it comes down to personal preference and what you want from the premise.
@kylo96333 ай бұрын
Only if you directed it🙍🏻
@Outrider743 ай бұрын
There is another serious difference between this TZ and the original series: Serling was political, but not partisan. He addressed McCarthyism with "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street," but he was just as quick to address Marxism with "The Mirror" and "The Obsolete Man" (which references Stalin). Serling knew that ANY extreme of any sort, regardless of left or right on the political spectrum, could be dangerous. (BTW, Gene Roddenberry's original Star Trek series handled this the same way as well) The 2019 TZ fails in this regard. The politics are almost exclusively favorable to leftist ideas. "Not all Men" is basically a blind exercise in Misandry, and something Serling would not have approved of because of its "one-sidedness." This is beyond social commentary; it's flat out Riefenstahl-esque propaganda.
@fangsofthefenrir1349Ай бұрын
Well said.
@vicsage8903 ай бұрын
You lost me at “Calvary”.
@matthewmartinez98353 ай бұрын
I can’t wait for wolf among us 2
@mortelpaolo4 ай бұрын
Almost every episode of 2019 TZ was about having your status quo changed. That showed how little we had to fear in 2019. Both the 80s and 60s TZ were afraid of war. 2002 TZ's episodes were afraid of death. If Twilight Zone wants to come back, the real world needs to be terrifying. I guess were just not there right now.
@Mr.AWESOME054 ай бұрын
How different are the comics compared to thr games? Same story or like?
@nitrohaloboss23554 ай бұрын
Basically a failed remake of minas tirith but GOT
@fatthor23964 ай бұрын
Side note, why does Bigby remind me so much of Rick Grimes season 4 through 6
@MasonOfLife4 ай бұрын
Have the men defending the castle from inside obviously, with obsidian arrow heads But have the masses of undead be pulling up against the wall like in World War Z Have the Night King attacking the dragons (on his own dragon) so that they can’t set the wights ablaze Then have the men atop the castle walls have to slice down the eights as they breach over (We can also have wights trying to chop down the main gate, successfully or not, maybe a small opening that slowly gets larger allowing more and more in Then from there they can either win somehow by dismounting and killing the Night King Or they can lose and have only a few who can manage, escape on horseback (either through an escape tunnel in the crypts or wherever, or by dragon back, perhaps on horseback if they are ableTo get out) And then the army would continue south (if it were up to me I’d have the army of the dead win)
@marlon80954 ай бұрын
Woke shit.
@chiyo-chanholocaust81434 ай бұрын
Shit that sucks, I always thought the game was super interesting but wasn't living up to it's full potential because they couldn't mess with the characters much and that the comics must be even better, but seems it's not huh
@NotYurAverageJoe5 ай бұрын
The biggest difference is the comic has ham-fisted right-wing political propaganda. For example: having a random CHILD praising Rudy Gulliani during the battle for Fabletown, and owning his parents with facts and logic when they think *a certain army* marching down the street are republican white nationalists. I WISH I WAS KIDDING. Bill Willingham has basically said it’s all about Israel/Palestine and that if he could have it sponsored by the Israeli govt he would. Hasn’t aged the greatest. Broke immersion for me unfortunately. Hope the video game just stays within the world its so interesting already without an incongruent allegory forced into it.
@Drixenol865 ай бұрын
A meteor making all males violent? How stupid can you get?
@drmott6665 ай бұрын
Dude really??? In the comics bigbys past is brought up all the time. He is basically the only 1 general amnesty doesn’t fully apply to. He isn’t allowed on the farm under any circumstances. He is even forced to miss several years of children’s lives because of it. He is guilted into letting one of the pigs sleep on his couch. He is constantly referred to as an animal and a monster. It kinda feels like you did a quick google search and didn’t actually read the comics
@ellugerdelacruz25555 ай бұрын
Years later after season 3, this video was 100% right...
@DEATH-THE-GOAT5 ай бұрын
In siege warfare, you keep your cavalry behind the walls at all times. Except when the opportunity arises for raids or shock attacks on weak enemy units. You should also dig ramparts and graves to concentrate the enemy into prepared kill zones. These must be at fixed distances for trebuchets, catapults, scorpio and bow and crossbow shooters. This is to simplify distance indication for each type of weapon.
@DEATH-THE-GOAT5 ай бұрын
*_"The Dead are Relentless"_* sounds like the title of a Black Metal song
@AerialAg5 ай бұрын
That was my biggest disappointment with Season 8. The fact that they discarded the army of the dead so quickly.. Still breaks my heart as I love a good bad guy.
@HDtothe86 ай бұрын
My problem with this was very different. The monster has 100s of hands she cut up only one of them so technically the monster will be able to enter the room!
@jarrodreaves2436 ай бұрын
My cousin was excited for this 1 too I haven't seen it But what
@popunkid6 ай бұрын
Can we all just agree that TJ is the greatest?
@sierrachief1176 ай бұрын
Can't agree more. I started reading fables comics just to be utterly disappointed. The game's story elements and characters are much better. Comic bigby is a smartass whereas game's bigby is a relatable guy who's making amends and trying to better himself with whatever little support he has and has to fulfill his miserable responsibility as the sheriff.
@dakotalange28586 ай бұрын
You tend to forget that magic was “dead” in the series besides a small amount like the wargs until the dragons returned then magic became more as it was coming back as dragons are magic creatures
@raiden_1877 ай бұрын
I wildly disagree that the comic is weak. It's amazing but I think your idea was tainted by expectations of a different genre.
@deadpuddle867 ай бұрын
Why do you believe that they are in Antarctica? Did I miss something? I believe that they are on another planet. They had to use breathing apparatus when they were outside and the base and the lore all seem like they are on another world. Are we supposed to be told that they are in Antarctica in some way or are you just making an assumption??
@JellisX8917 ай бұрын
In the game he's shrieff because of heroics he did when they all were leaving the homelands. I'm guessing he fought off enemies giving fables time to escape.
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This show is full of woke garbage
Me leí los comics tras jugar al juego y no estoy de acuerdo en que no se explore al personaje de Bigby. Si hay un desarrollo del personaje (desde el asesinato de Rosa Roja, su relación con Blanca y su padre, su huida de Fabletown...) como lo hay de otros personajes que el juego aprovecha para desarrollar en los diálogos (Además de la linea principal que sería Fables, había comics exclusivos con cuentos que explicaban los orígenes de personajes y como habían llegado de las Tierras Natales a NY, como Blanca, Jack, Beauty... Y que juego dinamiza muy bien para mostrar las relaciones de poder y dinamizar el diálogo y que te metas en la historia) El problema es querer ver el cómic como una prolongación del videojuego cuando tanto el estilo de dibujo como la narrativa corresponden a los 2000 y The Wolf Among Us es una adaptación de videojuego ubicada en los gustos de la última década de 2010 además de que en el comic todo se cuenta de poco a poco y el videojuego sintetiza muchísimo. Ahora que lo he jugado de 2 he disfrutado más por las referencias y son muchas y con relación a los comics
This is an awesome video, it deserve waaay more views
Sometimes I wonder if the big b is just depressed and trying to shorten his life by smoking so much. Cuz Colin says in the game fables live a long time. And with all the crap he has to deal with in the game it wouldn’t shock me if he is depressed and just trying to shorten his own life by smoking but it’s just a theory of mine. (More then welcome to correct me if I’m wrong)
Lets not include the Loot Train Attack in the list of tactically stupid battle depictions in GoT, please. The LTA made perfect sense from both sides from start to finish. Danny had an insane advantage attacking the Lannister Army while they were undeployed and did everything right, from cutting a breach into the impromptu Lannister shield wall and having her Dothraki roll them up from that flank, to focussing on the main objective (destroying the loot), switching to deal with anti air on the fly and finally routing the enemy. The Lannisters did what they could to mount a defense while not being prepared at all. The shield wall made sense against riders but wasn't deep enough and overstretched on account of them not having been deployed for battle.
I said all along that the Dothraki should have been given a means to signal either the defenders or the dragons, then harass the flanks of the army of the dead to the point where they start breaking formation or The Night King was forced to reveal himself and deal with the situation. If he doesn't go after the Dothraki then he's sending bodies away from the main fight, if he does go after them, then the dragons know where to be.
I totally agree with your observation that the comics are more "skin deep" than the game when it comes to exploring character relationships, conflicts, and themes. That was a big disappointment to me when I read the comics...including the spin-off comics/latest releases. I read the comics because the game seemed so interesting, and I immediately fell in love with the concepts, the world, and its characters. It's fun to rewatch playthroughs of The Wolf Among Us with knowledge pertaining to the comics because I can truly see the research and love that went into even the minor details of the game (such as letters from Weyland and foreshadowing of the Farm plot that happens in the comics). Despite my enthusiasm when I first started reading...the comics let me down. Thats not even to touch on the creator's blatant inclusion of his own political views...and the racist potrayal of the Arab Fables in the comic (which makes sense given the hot-blooded, pro-Israel creator's beliefs and the timeline of the comics being written post 9/11). I'm excited for the second game...but it just sucks that I feel almost like I wasted my time reading the comics. I'll be glad if TWAU 2 does a good job exploring nuance and themes and questions/concepts as well as the first game, or, hopefully, even better. As for my future interactions with the comics...jeez, I feel the need to re-write the story in a fanfiction or something just to fix a lot of major flaws and actually do something REWARDING with the concepts, questions, and character relationships it sets up...
No. I disagree with all of your theories on objectivity and your proposed re writes. That all sucks hard. It’s actually great as is. I’m glad you were in no way involved in the production of it. Your ideas for a alternate version are very lame.
The original is one of my favourite shows of all time . Only reboot that i thought decent was the 80s one. The episodes in 2019 show are too damn long. And too preachy
Bro, it's been years now. Still not over it
You couldn't be more wrong when saying the force isnt important to star wars haha
SERLING! ROD SERLING! there is no "t" in this man’s name! Stop calling him Sterling!
Most modern TV shows and Movies feel the need to preach rather than entertain. Ironically they're preaching to the very ones who cherish the original series. Constantly drilling into the minds of the audience, white people, especially white males, bad every other race good, is tiresome and boring.
Yeah after I was done playing my first time with The Wolf among Us game I was obsessed with the story and heard about the comic books and after I did like and enjoy the comic books the only problem is that one of them eventually left me a cliffhanger and it was a bad one so now I'm just very curious when is the new ones coming back the comic books I mean
One of the greatest games ever made bro
And R.R. Martin should have also brought the weapon ‘s called “machine guns” into the story, lol
By all the gods with each and every new "fixing Game of Thrones" video I watch, my hatred of Dumb&Dumber deepens. The Night King needn't have bothered invading, D&D would have destroyed the world of Ice and Fire all the same.
I genuinely love both the comics and the game. The comic is long though, as I'm a late-comer
Focused too much on being woke sadly
Serling effort there 🙄
I think the show has proved that Tyrion Lannister is a terrible strategist. He really should not be part of any part of the war planning effort after his disastrous performance in Battle of the Blackwater and Meereen. He can handle the logistics of feeding the army and government. It'd be like Tom Hagen - not a wartime counselor.
Peele isn't as smart as he thinks he is either
I think the biggest problem of this twilight zone is that it’s two on the nose and too long. Most of the episodes I figured out where the plot was going in the first 20 minutes and then I realize they were still another 40 minutes to go. Once you know where it’s going, it’s not that interesting anymore. And even on a few occasions when they did, keep me wondering if usually wasn’ a good pay off. I mean look at the Donald Trump episode to see just how painfully obvious everything was.
The comic is very good its just not about the same things as the wolf among us; it's more just an incredible fantasy story. It is also probably my favorite comic series ever. In the end, wether you like the games or comics more, it comes down to personal preference and what you want from the premise.
Only if you directed it🙍🏻
There is another serious difference between this TZ and the original series: Serling was political, but not partisan. He addressed McCarthyism with "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street," but he was just as quick to address Marxism with "The Mirror" and "The Obsolete Man" (which references Stalin). Serling knew that ANY extreme of any sort, regardless of left or right on the political spectrum, could be dangerous. (BTW, Gene Roddenberry's original Star Trek series handled this the same way as well) The 2019 TZ fails in this regard. The politics are almost exclusively favorable to leftist ideas. "Not all Men" is basically a blind exercise in Misandry, and something Serling would not have approved of because of its "one-sidedness." This is beyond social commentary; it's flat out Riefenstahl-esque propaganda.
Well said.
You lost me at “Calvary”.
I can’t wait for wolf among us 2
Almost every episode of 2019 TZ was about having your status quo changed. That showed how little we had to fear in 2019. Both the 80s and 60s TZ were afraid of war. 2002 TZ's episodes were afraid of death. If Twilight Zone wants to come back, the real world needs to be terrifying. I guess were just not there right now.
How different are the comics compared to thr games? Same story or like?
Basically a failed remake of minas tirith but GOT
Side note, why does Bigby remind me so much of Rick Grimes season 4 through 6
Have the men defending the castle from inside obviously, with obsidian arrow heads But have the masses of undead be pulling up against the wall like in World War Z Have the Night King attacking the dragons (on his own dragon) so that they can’t set the wights ablaze Then have the men atop the castle walls have to slice down the eights as they breach over (We can also have wights trying to chop down the main gate, successfully or not, maybe a small opening that slowly gets larger allowing more and more in Then from there they can either win somehow by dismounting and killing the Night King Or they can lose and have only a few who can manage, escape on horseback (either through an escape tunnel in the crypts or wherever, or by dragon back, perhaps on horseback if they are ableTo get out) And then the army would continue south (if it were up to me I’d have the army of the dead win)
Woke shit.
Shit that sucks, I always thought the game was super interesting but wasn't living up to it's full potential because they couldn't mess with the characters much and that the comics must be even better, but seems it's not huh
The biggest difference is the comic has ham-fisted right-wing political propaganda. For example: having a random CHILD praising Rudy Gulliani during the battle for Fabletown, and owning his parents with facts and logic when they think *a certain army* marching down the street are republican white nationalists. I WISH I WAS KIDDING. Bill Willingham has basically said it’s all about Israel/Palestine and that if he could have it sponsored by the Israeli govt he would. Hasn’t aged the greatest. Broke immersion for me unfortunately. Hope the video game just stays within the world its so interesting already without an incongruent allegory forced into it.
A meteor making all males violent? How stupid can you get?
Dude really??? In the comics bigbys past is brought up all the time. He is basically the only 1 general amnesty doesn’t fully apply to. He isn’t allowed on the farm under any circumstances. He is even forced to miss several years of children’s lives because of it. He is guilted into letting one of the pigs sleep on his couch. He is constantly referred to as an animal and a monster. It kinda feels like you did a quick google search and didn’t actually read the comics
Years later after season 3, this video was 100% right...
In siege warfare, you keep your cavalry behind the walls at all times. Except when the opportunity arises for raids or shock attacks on weak enemy units. You should also dig ramparts and graves to concentrate the enemy into prepared kill zones. These must be at fixed distances for trebuchets, catapults, scorpio and bow and crossbow shooters. This is to simplify distance indication for each type of weapon.
*_"The Dead are Relentless"_* sounds like the title of a Black Metal song
That was my biggest disappointment with Season 8. The fact that they discarded the army of the dead so quickly.. Still breaks my heart as I love a good bad guy.
My problem with this was very different. The monster has 100s of hands she cut up only one of them so technically the monster will be able to enter the room!
My cousin was excited for this 1 too I haven't seen it But what
Can we all just agree that TJ is the greatest?
Can't agree more. I started reading fables comics just to be utterly disappointed. The game's story elements and characters are much better. Comic bigby is a smartass whereas game's bigby is a relatable guy who's making amends and trying to better himself with whatever little support he has and has to fulfill his miserable responsibility as the sheriff.
You tend to forget that magic was “dead” in the series besides a small amount like the wargs until the dragons returned then magic became more as it was coming back as dragons are magic creatures
I wildly disagree that the comic is weak. It's amazing but I think your idea was tainted by expectations of a different genre.
Why do you believe that they are in Antarctica? Did I miss something? I believe that they are on another planet. They had to use breathing apparatus when they were outside and the base and the lore all seem like they are on another world. Are we supposed to be told that they are in Antarctica in some way or are you just making an assumption??
In the game he's shrieff because of heroics he did when they all were leaving the homelands. I'm guessing he fought off enemies giving fables time to escape.