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This was a vert noteworthy debate. Listening to the gentleman reasoning on the left for the special relationship reminds me of this one point: "one must sin in order for grace to abound". The Israel of old made God their keep and won battles without the assistance of any nation. Anyway, it is understood the special relationship will continue until the Mt. OLIVE accord prophesied in Scripture. ccord
@AldousFaxley3 сағат бұрын
If you read their book you know the short answer is: NO, and the long answer is: No way are you kidding me? It's a genocidal cult, do you know anything about this religion? Check history, in 1500 years they had less than a 100 years where they were a bit less violent around 1100, other than that they brought bloodlust to every area they colonized since the 7th century.
@seshpabsty714 сағат бұрын
Excellent debate, well conducted. I wonder whether Maajid Nawaz has written or rewritten the Quran to reflect his ideas of reformation. Would that not pave the way towards a more peaceful interpretation of Islam? May Allah bless him in his endeavors.
@DavidWerking4 сағат бұрын
This isn't a debate. All of these people believe the issue of legalizing marijuana should be legal in some way, be it for research purposes or out in the open. Usually when these things are "debated" they wave these things around because they already know there's a groundswell of people against it. They seriously couldn't find a Mexican mother who's kid had been killed because of this junk?
@ElGatoGrande18 сағат бұрын
Nothing like listening to an old hag witch assess a war lol
@grahamswift84529 сағат бұрын
Wherever Islam exists there is trouble.
@philosophy-of-science-and-law9 сағат бұрын
The ancients contrasted hedonism with cynicism. In other words, shared pleasure contrasted with self interest.
@Xind089810 сағат бұрын
the women represent a side that's gonna be the downfall of the US empire
@Xind089810 сағат бұрын
John when listen must be thinking "fuk my country is doomed"
@magdalenevelez75711 сағат бұрын
What an excellent debate still all these years later however, I get a kick out of Ms.Zena Khan's demeanor resting her head and chin in her hands while the opposite group was speaking 🤦♀️
@jimmylanghu798216 сағат бұрын
One thing I noticed that in any country muslims are there problem
@parthparth43316 сағат бұрын
#Ukraine is sovereign for usa deep state clowns but cuba , Venezuela, rest of global south nations is not ...why cia do regime change ops? why usa threaten sanctions on nations for doing trade with russia ...if usa establishment believes in sovereignty.
@alaxansfarm370817 сағат бұрын
Islam Is not a religion of peace violent religion
@abelcarbajal754022 сағат бұрын
por eso su sociedad esta mas podrida con los woke y utilizan la moralidad cuando les conviene cuando apoyan regímenes como en medio oriente o han hecho golpes de estados tan solo ver sus historiales de guerras , por eso su sociedad esta en declive .
@kimberlywallace614823 сағат бұрын
If there is such a wide range of interpretations of the Quran, Zeba Khan, and scholars don’t agree then what history are we supposed to look at? Put your Hijab back on and be quiet like a good Muslim woman. You are showing your hair, Zeba Khan!!
@kimberlywallace614823 сағат бұрын
Hadith and The Prophet…all the same, Muslims are still living in The Dark Ages and they can not deviate from The Quran because it’s forbidden in any time!
@JoelMangubat-gm3fc23 сағат бұрын
Islam is a religion of peace...yes
@watain990Күн бұрын
Oh, she says that Ukraine is a laboratory for the US companies to observe how their arms working on the battlefield. That some unreachable level of cynicism, I don't know how you guys in USA baring such politicians.
@watain990Күн бұрын
Putin asked Zelensky to codify neutral status in constitution probably because the opposite intentions are codified there. As well as military take over of Crimea. That's what that old lady forgot to mention.
@stesj4Күн бұрын
There are no democratic muslim country. For islam to become more peaceful we need Arab springs hundred times over. Where are the muslim freedoms fighter? Do they exist or are they all silenced and killed? In a peaceful religion of 1.8 billion there should be 1,7999 billion freedoms fighters.
@abubakarsidikidaboh175Күн бұрын
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@cheblack677Күн бұрын
Without American "aid" the war in Ukraine would neither start nor continue. It may benefit American manufacture(military industrial complex), but cost countless lives and destruction somewhere else.
@rbrown671Күн бұрын
The first part of the second amendment is not a preamble. It's an adaptation of the first clause of section 13 of the Virginia Declaration of Rights. It is a reinforcement of Congress's duty to adequately regulate the militia, and it essentially serves the same function as its equivalent clause in the Virginia Declaration. So well-regulated meant well-regulated by Congress. And the second amendment has nothing to do with self defense. In all of the historical House debates regarding the writing of the second amendment, not a word was said about individual self defense; the debates were entirely anout militia duty.
@nancychace8619Күн бұрын
"How they deny the validity of any other person -" Rings a bell after finding a lot of food missing, plants in the backyard trashed, literally someone found a way to let their dog into my backyard to do its business. Clothes missing. Overcharged double at the grocery store for something then finding it missing from the refrigerator. They have literally shit on me. Trashed part of a fence that's had a problem I was trying to resolve. Even when I try to take constructive action to improve I get shit on. Who really has the problem? Me or whomever? There's a difference between trying to work things out with someone who has a different point of view and trying to deal with someone sick and abusive. On kitchen sinking - What about trauma that builds up over time? I get what Esther is saying, but the current issue may only be the symptom of something much greater that's built up over time. You can't dismiss 40 years of abuse by only scratching the surface of an iceberg with much greater substance going on under the surface. Not trying to score. Trying to resolve but unfortunately there's a lot going on with that. Respectfully, not sure that if you are not civil or polite in how you deal with something like this, that's your character. Some people don't understand civility. The only way you can get their attention is to hand them back a dose of their own medicine. That doesn't mean there are no limits to how you can abuse others. That does mean there's a level at which unfortunately it takes fire to fight fire. I've heard stories from some European friends about how course some of the US soldiers were when they came to Europe to fight the Nazis. I don't doubt it. But I would politely and respectfully ask them to look at what those soldiers were up against. It's important to view it in terms of the greater context. They had to be fierce to fight a fierce enemy, civility be dammed. The Nazis were anything but civil. What people fight about - power, trust and value. Those who are so insecure they must trash someone's yard and steal their food to make themselves feel powerful are certainly on a toxic power trip. Extraordinarily insecure and hypocritical. If some chain yanker out there has a problem with women or is otherwise sickly sadistic, that's not my problem. That's theirs. Instead of making others take the heat for it, they need to look in the mirror. In my experience there has been no recognition of the "other". There has only been recognition of an extraordinarily one-sided, narrow-minded, hypocritical, selfish and greedy view. I'm so tired of it I could almost start projectile vomiting it right back at "them". Really agree how society seems to be cutting itself off from itself. Sometimes no matter how I look at it it only seems like lemmings heading for a cliff, but that's not the attitude to take. You can't give up. Thanks and appreciation for this video. Thank you, Esther, for being there. I'm learning a lot. "Godspeed" for better days ahead.
@NarutardPunkКүн бұрын
If you need to debate this - you know damn well that Islam is not about peace. It is about dictatorship, sexism, sexual slavery, pedophilia, and more disgusting things that should not be glorified. As a Jew, I lived 17 years in a Muslim country and then 10 years in a Christian one, before moving to Israel. I can tell you everything about Islam, it is one hell of a drug for those who lack brain cells.
@franciscosanchez3853Күн бұрын
Every time a human with a pussy wants to talk about war … I asked them . How many wars do women have won ? Honestly fuck this two cunts .. they will never win a war because bitches like them don’t go to war.
@Elioha-gt8puКүн бұрын
No way its nothing of that. Islam tells muslim man to kill judes and christians. A muslim man can lie to protect him self or Islam even to his own wife. Its called taqqyyia.
@mikemactavish1665Күн бұрын
Only 85K views . . . everyone should watch this and . . . think
@chunyuou9944Күн бұрын
I’m very sad I wasted so many minutes listening to this, these 2 ladies are not even in the real world.
@erker6423Күн бұрын
These women are real liars: Minsk I, and Minsk II - Merkel and Hollande (France) stated a year ago, that they only negociated to rearm Ukr. EU/USA have lied to RU.
@user-oq4jk1ix6yКүн бұрын
Islam is for war and killing other beliefs why i have listen to thè testimonies of many people who underwent terrible things of suffering rejection
@JARABACOA3Күн бұрын
Islam is politic religion that takes violence as the words of Muhammad
@erker6423Күн бұрын
the women do not know what they are talking about. One thing useful is to send both of them to the front in Ukr, to prove that they want to talk the talk, and walk the walk....but of course, these cowards will not go to fight, ....why should they ? Their war mongering is monthly paid by a high salary .
@JARABACOA3Күн бұрын
Read the HAMAS Manifiesto. Read the Kuran and the other Islamic writings. See the prophets biography of killing and raping. Jihad means forcing the Islam on infidels. "Muhammad's religion by soard" say it strait forwardly.
@user-uv7tz8wo2zКүн бұрын
Muslim Quran is not A Religion of peace personally I believe it is A Made up Lie. And because of this the Arab world is split down the Middle and on that other side of the Streets is communist Terrorist like in America my home land we have communist on the other side.. you ideas your Believes are Killing you the Rest of us live Good lives and Move Forward in this Life.
@fredaheunes8659Күн бұрын
2nd Speaker...BS
@RoySolomon-qq5uzКүн бұрын
Well done Ayaan and Douglas. Well done to the voters.
@RoySolomon-qq5uzКүн бұрын
Try having round two of the debate in an Islamic country. Let us know if it will be allowed.
@yossefgamerr3813Күн бұрын
You know that if you keep saying "Islam is a religion of violence" that would solve nothing, right? If we keep spreading the true message of Islam and prove that it doesn't condone violence, then we would have less violence happening overall. but if you just keep saying "islam bad, islam violence" that would solve nothing. more than 2 Billion people are already Muslim, you can't just get them out like that.
@macrosenseКүн бұрын
I had grown up in the tale end of the Cold War. From some perspectives, we were in some state of “detente” with the Soviets during the 80s. But the lesson of the cold war was we were not supposed to like the Soviets because they were Communists. The Soviet Union has been gone for thirty years and Russia has not been communist for at least as long. So, all this animosity against Russia leads me to believe most of the previous cold war ideology against the Soviet Union was just for pretend…to give Americans something to do.
@RoySolomon-qq5uzКүн бұрын
If Islam doesn't have enemies, Muslims will kill each other. Simple as that
@RoySolomon-qq5uzКүн бұрын
On Ishmael. He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.” Genesis 16:12.
@aljosa0Күн бұрын
Madam giving closing words basically said that Ukrainians want to die for US investment
@RoySolomon-qq5uzКүн бұрын
Will the outcome of this debate change anything of Islam? There are nice Muslim people simply because they are humans first.
@RoySolomon-qq5uzКүн бұрын
Well said. If Islam is indeed a religion of peace why this debate?
@pamelacook4896Күн бұрын
Christians had him jones
@pamelacook4896Күн бұрын
there's contradictory in though shall not kill but we have wars
@RoySolomon-qq5uzКүн бұрын
She says "no one actually looked at", simply means no one understood Arabic. They merely recite and not understand what it was they were uttering.
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This was a vert noteworthy debate. Listening to the gentleman reasoning on the left for the special relationship reminds me of this one point: "one must sin in order for grace to abound". The Israel of old made God their keep and won battles without the assistance of any nation. Anyway, it is understood the special relationship will continue until the Mt. OLIVE accord prophesied in Scripture. ccord
If you read their book you know the short answer is: NO, and the long answer is: No way are you kidding me? It's a genocidal cult, do you know anything about this religion? Check history, in 1500 years they had less than a 100 years where they were a bit less violent around 1100, other than that they brought bloodlust to every area they colonized since the 7th century.
Excellent debate, well conducted. I wonder whether Maajid Nawaz has written or rewritten the Quran to reflect his ideas of reformation. Would that not pave the way towards a more peaceful interpretation of Islam? May Allah bless him in his endeavors.
This isn't a debate. All of these people believe the issue of legalizing marijuana should be legal in some way, be it for research purposes or out in the open. Usually when these things are "debated" they wave these things around because they already know there's a groundswell of people against it. They seriously couldn't find a Mexican mother who's kid had been killed because of this junk?
Nothing like listening to an old hag witch assess a war lol
Wherever Islam exists there is trouble.
The ancients contrasted hedonism with cynicism. In other words, shared pleasure contrasted with self interest.
the women represent a side that's gonna be the downfall of the US empire
John when listen must be thinking "fuk my country is doomed"
What an excellent debate still all these years later however, I get a kick out of Ms.Zena Khan's demeanor resting her head and chin in her hands while the opposite group was speaking 🤦♀️
One thing I noticed that in any country muslims are there problem
#Ukraine is sovereign for usa deep state clowns but cuba , Venezuela, rest of global south nations is not ...why cia do regime change ops? why usa threaten sanctions on nations for doing trade with russia ...if usa establishment believes in sovereignty.
Islam Is not a religion of peace violent religion
por eso su sociedad esta mas podrida con los woke y utilizan la moralidad cuando les conviene cuando apoyan regímenes como en medio oriente o han hecho golpes de estados tan solo ver sus historiales de guerras , por eso su sociedad esta en declive .
If there is such a wide range of interpretations of the Quran, Zeba Khan, and scholars don’t agree then what history are we supposed to look at? Put your Hijab back on and be quiet like a good Muslim woman. You are showing your hair, Zeba Khan!!
Hadith and The Prophet…all the same, Muslims are still living in The Dark Ages and they can not deviate from The Quran because it’s forbidden in any time!
Islam is a religion of peace...yes
Oh, she says that Ukraine is a laboratory for the US companies to observe how their arms working on the battlefield. That some unreachable level of cynicism, I don't know how you guys in USA baring such politicians.
Putin asked Zelensky to codify neutral status in constitution probably because the opposite intentions are codified there. As well as military take over of Crimea. That's what that old lady forgot to mention.
There are no democratic muslim country. For islam to become more peaceful we need Arab springs hundred times over. Where are the muslim freedoms fighter? Do they exist or are they all silenced and killed? In a peaceful religion of 1.8 billion there should be 1,7999 billion freedoms fighters.
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Without American "aid" the war in Ukraine would neither start nor continue. It may benefit American manufacture(military industrial complex), but cost countless lives and destruction somewhere else.
The first part of the second amendment is not a preamble. It's an adaptation of the first clause of section 13 of the Virginia Declaration of Rights. It is a reinforcement of Congress's duty to adequately regulate the militia, and it essentially serves the same function as its equivalent clause in the Virginia Declaration. So well-regulated meant well-regulated by Congress. And the second amendment has nothing to do with self defense. In all of the historical House debates regarding the writing of the second amendment, not a word was said about individual self defense; the debates were entirely anout militia duty.
"How they deny the validity of any other person -" Rings a bell after finding a lot of food missing, plants in the backyard trashed, literally someone found a way to let their dog into my backyard to do its business. Clothes missing. Overcharged double at the grocery store for something then finding it missing from the refrigerator. They have literally shit on me. Trashed part of a fence that's had a problem I was trying to resolve. Even when I try to take constructive action to improve I get shit on. Who really has the problem? Me or whomever? There's a difference between trying to work things out with someone who has a different point of view and trying to deal with someone sick and abusive. On kitchen sinking - What about trauma that builds up over time? I get what Esther is saying, but the current issue may only be the symptom of something much greater that's built up over time. You can't dismiss 40 years of abuse by only scratching the surface of an iceberg with much greater substance going on under the surface. Not trying to score. Trying to resolve but unfortunately there's a lot going on with that. Respectfully, not sure that if you are not civil or polite in how you deal with something like this, that's your character. Some people don't understand civility. The only way you can get their attention is to hand them back a dose of their own medicine. That doesn't mean there are no limits to how you can abuse others. That does mean there's a level at which unfortunately it takes fire to fight fire. I've heard stories from some European friends about how course some of the US soldiers were when they came to Europe to fight the Nazis. I don't doubt it. But I would politely and respectfully ask them to look at what those soldiers were up against. It's important to view it in terms of the greater context. They had to be fierce to fight a fierce enemy, civility be dammed. The Nazis were anything but civil. What people fight about - power, trust and value. Those who are so insecure they must trash someone's yard and steal their food to make themselves feel powerful are certainly on a toxic power trip. Extraordinarily insecure and hypocritical. If some chain yanker out there has a problem with women or is otherwise sickly sadistic, that's not my problem. That's theirs. Instead of making others take the heat for it, they need to look in the mirror. In my experience there has been no recognition of the "other". There has only been recognition of an extraordinarily one-sided, narrow-minded, hypocritical, selfish and greedy view. I'm so tired of it I could almost start projectile vomiting it right back at "them". Really agree how society seems to be cutting itself off from itself. Sometimes no matter how I look at it it only seems like lemmings heading for a cliff, but that's not the attitude to take. You can't give up. Thanks and appreciation for this video. Thank you, Esther, for being there. I'm learning a lot. "Godspeed" for better days ahead.
If you need to debate this - you know damn well that Islam is not about peace. It is about dictatorship, sexism, sexual slavery, pedophilia, and more disgusting things that should not be glorified. As a Jew, I lived 17 years in a Muslim country and then 10 years in a Christian one, before moving to Israel. I can tell you everything about Islam, it is one hell of a drug for those who lack brain cells.
Every time a human with a pussy wants to talk about war … I asked them . How many wars do women have won ? Honestly fuck this two cunts .. they will never win a war because bitches like them don’t go to war.
No way its nothing of that. Islam tells muslim man to kill judes and christians. A muslim man can lie to protect him self or Islam even to his own wife. Its called taqqyyia.
Only 85K views . . . everyone should watch this and . . . think
I’m very sad I wasted so many minutes listening to this, these 2 ladies are not even in the real world.
These women are real liars: Minsk I, and Minsk II - Merkel and Hollande (France) stated a year ago, that they only negociated to rearm Ukr. EU/USA have lied to RU.
Islam is for war and killing other beliefs why i have listen to thè testimonies of many people who underwent terrible things of suffering rejection
Islam is politic religion that takes violence as the words of Muhammad
the women do not know what they are talking about. One thing useful is to send both of them to the front in Ukr, to prove that they want to talk the talk, and walk the walk....but of course, these cowards will not go to fight, ....why should they ? Their war mongering is monthly paid by a high salary .
Read the HAMAS Manifiesto. Read the Kuran and the other Islamic writings. See the prophets biography of killing and raping. Jihad means forcing the Islam on infidels. "Muhammad's religion by soard" say it strait forwardly.
Muslim Quran is not A Religion of peace personally I believe it is A Made up Lie. And because of this the Arab world is split down the Middle and on that other side of the Streets is communist Terrorist like in America my home land we have communist on the other side.. you ideas your Believes are Killing you the Rest of us live Good lives and Move Forward in this Life.
2nd Speaker...BS
Well done Ayaan and Douglas. Well done to the voters.
Try having round two of the debate in an Islamic country. Let us know if it will be allowed.
You know that if you keep saying "Islam is a religion of violence" that would solve nothing, right? If we keep spreading the true message of Islam and prove that it doesn't condone violence, then we would have less violence happening overall. but if you just keep saying "islam bad, islam violence" that would solve nothing. more than 2 Billion people are already Muslim, you can't just get them out like that.
I had grown up in the tale end of the Cold War. From some perspectives, we were in some state of “detente” with the Soviets during the 80s. But the lesson of the cold war was we were not supposed to like the Soviets because they were Communists. The Soviet Union has been gone for thirty years and Russia has not been communist for at least as long. So, all this animosity against Russia leads me to believe most of the previous cold war ideology against the Soviet Union was just for pretend…to give Americans something to do.
If Islam doesn't have enemies, Muslims will kill each other. Simple as that
On Ishmael. He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.” Genesis 16:12.
Madam giving closing words basically said that Ukrainians want to die for US investment
Will the outcome of this debate change anything of Islam? There are nice Muslim people simply because they are humans first.
Well said. If Islam is indeed a religion of peace why this debate?
Christians had him jones
there's contradictory in though shall not kill but we have wars
She says "no one actually looked at", simply means no one understood Arabic. They merely recite and not understand what it was they were uttering.