ANYONE with even half a brain will realize this madness is stupid to implement. Just because a lying Politician. like Talkbull thought it was good and CONNED people to FOLLOW LIKE SHEEP doesn't make it a sound concept. The efficiency losses are greater than the inputs for a start. A secondary school student in physics class can tell you that, but POLLIES CANNOT!
@williamcramer925114 күн бұрын
Just make the project so big and take so long that no one will notice the vast amounts of money being stolen. It seems this ply book is used world wide.
@tediousmaximus106719 күн бұрын
Nuclear power will solve our problems. We have endless supplies of uranium and thorium in Australia and nuclear has no emissions and is efficient as hell. In Finland they switched to nuclear and their power bills dropped by over 75 %.
@rayluxford810825 күн бұрын
Probably would have been better to build more dams for
@johnwilliams3555Ай бұрын
OK so this is the case 'against', now let's hear the case 'for'. Hydro is fantastic and so much better than wind and solar. If we want more people then we need more water storage and more electricity.
@clairebettington4297Ай бұрын
Fantastic!!!🥰
@arferret3 ай бұрын
This is fantastic David
@Harryandleo4 ай бұрын
Could have done without the woke homily to start with… hopefully the rest of the video is informative rather than ideologically Marxist
@RoseWhite994 ай бұрын
This project should be reassessed, it’s inefficient and costly
@bec76872 ай бұрын
It needs to be canned now!
@robertchautardjensen68464 ай бұрын
Why is anyone surprised that Snowy 2 is a dud, just look at who the sponsor was. Nothing Morrison touched has ever been a benefit to all Australians... What a waste of oxygen.
@peterdixon71444 ай бұрын
Those who follow and allow this 'green agenda' are to blame. There is no 'man made' climate change, live long enough and you will see. The green movement is destroying the very land they say they are saving. If you are over the age of 50 and still believe this lie then wake the hell up! Carbon dioxide is an essential gas - it is NOT a pollutant and it is not heating the planet in the way that they say. Trouble is these green zealots have believed that human activity is destroying the climate for more than a century (and longer) and despite the world not ending throughout their lives they continue to believe it. Remember that in the 70's it was getting too cold. In the 80's it was getting too warm. In the 90's we only had 10 years left. In the 2000's we only had 10 years left. In the 2010's we only had 7 years left. But now we are in the 2020's and we are still here and the end is nowhere in sight! I really couldn't care less if they think that the world is going to end but I care very much about what they are doing to try and stop it.
@ronedwards52585 ай бұрын
Clean safe modern molten salt modular nuclear power is the answer. China is doing it. Even Indonesia. No need for storage, the energy is already stored in the virtually unlimited Thorium fuel we have been gifted. No need for more transmission lines to be built, just use the ones we already have. Google Michael Shellenberger. We cans save the environment whilst saving the climate and stopping coal pollution.
@davidwestwater22195 ай бұрын
We have no other way to store energy. And we are in problem of global prortions.
@williamoneill95735 ай бұрын
They all forget that “ The Landscape is The Lords “. The will eventually face Him and try to explain. Not a position I would want to be in 😢
@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye2 ай бұрын
Nonsense.
@AdriOnFilms5 ай бұрын
We need to get away from fake food and poisoning land. Economic is killing our planet! Permaculture, and local first, will greatly stop so much shipping and need for equipment, that contributes to mining etc. Healthy organic is the best way to go. No more chemicals!!!!
@mavisjohnson45926 ай бұрын
Thought this was going to be a good listen, then I heard the aboriginal worship part. Next!
@1fan1646 ай бұрын
What is the power source for the pump system.
@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye2 ай бұрын
Is that an intentional loaded question? I mean you could have so easily gone the Snowy 2.0 Project Web site and read their own description. Quote from the project information page................ "Water will be pumped to the upper dam when there is surplus renewable energy production and the demand for energy is low, and then released back to the lower dam to generate energy when electricity demand is high.
@andrewday32067 ай бұрын
This project is absolutely fantastic. The amount of energy storage being built is a game changer for the nation. Having 350,000 MW/Hrs of storage is enough stored energy to power over well over 1 million houses for a week straight. Having 2,200 MW of ouput can will power well over 1 million homes. This project will turn wind and solar from intermittent sources into baseload 24/7 power without interruption. This turns wind and solar into a backbone of the electricity grid. This emissions free power will have almost as much output as 4 commercial nuclear reactors, without the nuclear waste issues.
@forloop77136 ай бұрын
It will help for sure. But there must've been better sites to build such a plant
@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye2 ай бұрын
@@forloop7713 It depends on what is meant by use of the term "better" I suppose. "Better" for who, what ,when and how. When you already have an ideal scenario existing, with reservoirs at suitable elevations separation within a huge mountainous catchment region, which is competing against national park objectives and values. No easy gig to sort that out to determine what is objectively "better" from all sides.
@forloop77132 ай бұрын
@@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye I think it's bad more in terms of the economical aspect. The tunnels are just very long and expensive
@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye2 ай бұрын
@@forloop7713 Granted that is the case. At the same time, lets not forget that all sorts of nation building infrastructure projects are very costly. The project is a revenue generating facility as well once it comes online. For the general public, we are not privvy to the full value proposition pros and cons at conception.
@neilreid57 ай бұрын
Most likely work better than solar and wind
@andrewday32067 ай бұрын
It will make solar and wind baseload energy vastly improving those resources. Being able to store 350,000 MW/Hr of energy and being able to produce 2,200 MW on demand makes this a grid game changer.
@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye2 ай бұрын
What do you mean "work better than"? The reason the project exists in the first place, is to actually work in conjunction with excess wind and solar generation. To actually maximise solar and wind power generation availability and supply at times when solar and wind output may have dropped off. In other words, it actually enhances the viability of solar and wind power generation, by capturing generation capacity that would otherwise be wasted and lost. Just like andrewday explained.
@williamoneill95737 ай бұрын
Parting gift from Malcom Turner, the man who hates Australia and us Australians. Sour grapes to the max.
@williamoneill95737 ай бұрын
Turnbull.
@stevespatrol7 ай бұрын
Doesn’t the NP allow Ski Field operators to operate in these fragile environments? Without these Ski Fields National Parks would lose how much in revenue every year?
@christophermay4540Ай бұрын
Yeah , you're right. The bulldozers these people use for skying are easily as as destructive as what S2.0 is doing.
@stevespatrolАй бұрын
@@christophermay4540 the land had to be cleared in the first place and the roads and infrastructure had to be dug into the land. 🤦🏼♂️
@stevespatrol7 ай бұрын
Didn’t National Parks fail to manage fuel loadings in these parks by not allowing hazard reduction burns to be conducted ? And in failing to do so this allowed extremely high fuel loadings and the last fire to absolutely destroy these fragile Alpine Forests and killing 1000’s of animals in the process? Bit of the old Pot calling the Kettle black going on here. NP has failed to manage the number of Brumbies in these areas as well.
@helenehoward62947 ай бұрын
Politicians and friends lining their pockets
@edwardbarnett65719 ай бұрын
The Parrahub to Melbourne via Canberra and Albury underground Japanese SC maglev that earns $2m per night with overnight container trains will reduce trucks and planes while leaving no lasting footprint and using the Snowy 2 power.
@narelle486810 ай бұрын
Devastating and unbelievable.
@Blackheathenly10 ай бұрын
An absolute disgrace. This is how we treat one of our most precious National Parks? Stop the madness NOW! Tanya Plibersek DO SOMETHING!
@stevespatrol7 ай бұрын
NP can’t even manage there own backyard.
@williamoneill95737 ай бұрын
Too late, the damage is done. 😢
@andrewday32067 ай бұрын
How about the enormous amount of zero pollution energy this project enables. This project makes fossil fuel energy unnecessary for so many people.
@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye2 ай бұрын
@@andrewday3206 It's a fair and important point to raise. I expect this has had serious talk time behind closed doors. If I read things correctly at the NPAN Website, they claim that there has been other site assessments that would be better suited for pumped hydro projects external to national parks. I would need to check to be sure, but I don't think there would be any other sites that have the gross capacity that the Snowy Scheme would have. Plus have reservoirs already in place at suitable varying altitudes, which obviously would curtail project costs enormously. They are also not happy about the cloud seeding towers and practices that are employed either apparently. Yet at the same time they indeed clearly acknowledge that climate change is impacting the park. It's a dilema it would seem for NPAN and the Kosciuszko National Park, their support obviously and totally for national park objectives and values at this point.
@williamben919410 ай бұрын
This is what happens when the crazies take over the government and sucumb to the cultist ideology of the climate agenda, and lets be clear fighting climate has absolutely nothing to do with the environment, the enviroment will be dispensed with as the cult see fit. Stop Climate Change Madness NOW!
@davow811 ай бұрын
Thanks Grahame. Very informative but somewhat concerning given the trends.
@louisebrodie3569 Жыл бұрын
Great story
@jimmyjamjar10101 Жыл бұрын
2:29 🤣
@anastasiaguise12872 жыл бұрын
The only candidate who didn't provide a comment was the incumbent? Did I miss something?
@VietnamWalkingTV2 жыл бұрын
Great video/ Thanks my friend
@jamiemackenzie95022 жыл бұрын
This is mega cool and exciting. No way in the world would I have thought there would be Koala's in Heathcote NP.
@cue32413 жыл бұрын
1.) What is the current percentage of Full MPA Sanctuary Zone Status (no take) worldwide? It was said 30 % is needed. 2.) Have (best) locations (for Full MPA Sanctuary Zone Status) been determined? 3.) What are the 22 nations that support the 30% Full MPA Sanctuary Zone by 2030 (30x30)? 4.) Would it make more sense to have integrated swaths of area vs. fragmented zones for Full MPA? Please explain. 5.) The question is in 3rd paragraph, if you don't count this as a paragraph. Saddened, disappointed, and only slightly shocked that the Australian government doesn't support the 30x30 target because Australia is an island and because of their abysmal record of caring for koala habitat, livestock ex. sheep (muesling and live export trade), and animals in general. Same for what happened to the cuttlefish gathering. : ( Because of the rampant fires, especially the horror of 2019-2020 fire, it IS shocking that Australia is still pro-coal & still NOT pro-environment! I hope it has opened their minds to reason. California has really been ramping up on pro-environmental, sustainable actions because of the fires there. Hawaii is very pro-environmental because of the wildlife and tourism there. I think both of those states also really love their states natural beauty too. The Film Industry fame is also very vocal, wealthy, influential, and proactive with the government in California and Nationally. I think getting stars to be public for a cause has a big impact due to their notoriety and influence. I live in Cleveland, Ohio, USA along Lake Erie (One of the Great Lakes.) The Great Lakes are of great concern and care for all of us that live along the Great Lakes, whether it be American or Canadian. I think that part of the reason is because they are freshwater, easy to stock fish (walleye & perch) in regards to fishing, and probably not as complicated in terms of biodiversity. Are they? Suggestions for additional topics: 1.)Specific courses of action people can do (ex. letter writing campaigns - provide them with a form letter) as a native and Non-Native Australian. 2.) Educate and explain (provide as a printable resource) the different types of fishing, fishing gear and alternative's (ex. Turtle Excluder Devices - TED's). I will add more later if I think of some more.
@lizardears48614 жыл бұрын
The worst thing we could do for our wildlife is to convert more State Forests into the already 6 million hectares of national parks. National parks and their associated environmental activist groups are underpinned by an entrenched lock it up and leave it ideology. This views human intervention as unnatural and denies the need for active fire management. NPWS managers are less than enthusiastic about using fire as a management tool. We then see unprecedented levels of forest fuel leading to high intensity mega fires that kill everything in their path ie. Nov 2019- North Coast NSW.
@liisakajala85075 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing the Australian / NSW development work on improving access to nature areas. You are doing great work there! - Liisa from Parks & Wildlife Finland
@erikavanschellebeck43965 жыл бұрын
The Great Koala National Park would be awesome for our mid-north coast of NSW and bring in $300 million a year!
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ANYONE with even half a brain will realize this madness is stupid to implement. Just because a lying Politician. like Talkbull thought it was good and CONNED people to FOLLOW LIKE SHEEP doesn't make it a sound concept. The efficiency losses are greater than the inputs for a start. A secondary school student in physics class can tell you that, but POLLIES CANNOT!
Just make the project so big and take so long that no one will notice the vast amounts of money being stolen. It seems this ply book is used world wide.
Nuclear power will solve our problems. We have endless supplies of uranium and thorium in Australia and nuclear has no emissions and is efficient as hell. In Finland they switched to nuclear and their power bills dropped by over 75 %.
Probably would have been better to build more dams for
OK so this is the case 'against', now let's hear the case 'for'. Hydro is fantastic and so much better than wind and solar. If we want more people then we need more water storage and more electricity.
Fantastic!!!🥰
This is fantastic David
Could have done without the woke homily to start with… hopefully the rest of the video is informative rather than ideologically Marxist
This project should be reassessed, it’s inefficient and costly
It needs to be canned now!
Why is anyone surprised that Snowy 2 is a dud, just look at who the sponsor was. Nothing Morrison touched has ever been a benefit to all Australians... What a waste of oxygen.
Those who follow and allow this 'green agenda' are to blame. There is no 'man made' climate change, live long enough and you will see. The green movement is destroying the very land they say they are saving. If you are over the age of 50 and still believe this lie then wake the hell up! Carbon dioxide is an essential gas - it is NOT a pollutant and it is not heating the planet in the way that they say. Trouble is these green zealots have believed that human activity is destroying the climate for more than a century (and longer) and despite the world not ending throughout their lives they continue to believe it. Remember that in the 70's it was getting too cold. In the 80's it was getting too warm. In the 90's we only had 10 years left. In the 2000's we only had 10 years left. In the 2010's we only had 7 years left. But now we are in the 2020's and we are still here and the end is nowhere in sight! I really couldn't care less if they think that the world is going to end but I care very much about what they are doing to try and stop it.
Clean safe modern molten salt modular nuclear power is the answer. China is doing it. Even Indonesia. No need for storage, the energy is already stored in the virtually unlimited Thorium fuel we have been gifted. No need for more transmission lines to be built, just use the ones we already have. Google Michael Shellenberger. We cans save the environment whilst saving the climate and stopping coal pollution.
We have no other way to store energy. And we are in problem of global prortions.
They all forget that “ The Landscape is The Lords “. The will eventually face Him and try to explain. Not a position I would want to be in 😢
Nonsense.
We need to get away from fake food and poisoning land. Economic is killing our planet! Permaculture, and local first, will greatly stop so much shipping and need for equipment, that contributes to mining etc. Healthy organic is the best way to go. No more chemicals!!!!
Thought this was going to be a good listen, then I heard the aboriginal worship part. Next!
What is the power source for the pump system.
Is that an intentional loaded question? I mean you could have so easily gone the Snowy 2.0 Project Web site and read their own description. Quote from the project information page................ "Water will be pumped to the upper dam when there is surplus renewable energy production and the demand for energy is low, and then released back to the lower dam to generate energy when electricity demand is high.
This project is absolutely fantastic. The amount of energy storage being built is a game changer for the nation. Having 350,000 MW/Hrs of storage is enough stored energy to power over well over 1 million houses for a week straight. Having 2,200 MW of ouput can will power well over 1 million homes. This project will turn wind and solar from intermittent sources into baseload 24/7 power without interruption. This turns wind and solar into a backbone of the electricity grid. This emissions free power will have almost as much output as 4 commercial nuclear reactors, without the nuclear waste issues.
It will help for sure. But there must've been better sites to build such a plant
@@forloop7713 It depends on what is meant by use of the term "better" I suppose. "Better" for who, what ,when and how. When you already have an ideal scenario existing, with reservoirs at suitable elevations separation within a huge mountainous catchment region, which is competing against national park objectives and values. No easy gig to sort that out to determine what is objectively "better" from all sides.
@@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye I think it's bad more in terms of the economical aspect. The tunnels are just very long and expensive
@@forloop7713 Granted that is the case. At the same time, lets not forget that all sorts of nation building infrastructure projects are very costly. The project is a revenue generating facility as well once it comes online. For the general public, we are not privvy to the full value proposition pros and cons at conception.
Most likely work better than solar and wind
It will make solar and wind baseload energy vastly improving those resources. Being able to store 350,000 MW/Hr of energy and being able to produce 2,200 MW on demand makes this a grid game changer.
What do you mean "work better than"? The reason the project exists in the first place, is to actually work in conjunction with excess wind and solar generation. To actually maximise solar and wind power generation availability and supply at times when solar and wind output may have dropped off. In other words, it actually enhances the viability of solar and wind power generation, by capturing generation capacity that would otherwise be wasted and lost. Just like andrewday explained.
Parting gift from Malcom Turner, the man who hates Australia and us Australians. Sour grapes to the max.
Turnbull.
Doesn’t the NP allow Ski Field operators to operate in these fragile environments? Without these Ski Fields National Parks would lose how much in revenue every year?
Yeah , you're right. The bulldozers these people use for skying are easily as as destructive as what S2.0 is doing.
@@christophermay4540 the land had to be cleared in the first place and the roads and infrastructure had to be dug into the land. 🤦🏼♂️
Didn’t National Parks fail to manage fuel loadings in these parks by not allowing hazard reduction burns to be conducted ? And in failing to do so this allowed extremely high fuel loadings and the last fire to absolutely destroy these fragile Alpine Forests and killing 1000’s of animals in the process? Bit of the old Pot calling the Kettle black going on here. NP has failed to manage the number of Brumbies in these areas as well.
Politicians and friends lining their pockets
The Parrahub to Melbourne via Canberra and Albury underground Japanese SC maglev that earns $2m per night with overnight container trains will reduce trucks and planes while leaving no lasting footprint and using the Snowy 2 power.
Devastating and unbelievable.
An absolute disgrace. This is how we treat one of our most precious National Parks? Stop the madness NOW! Tanya Plibersek DO SOMETHING!
NP can’t even manage there own backyard.
Too late, the damage is done. 😢
How about the enormous amount of zero pollution energy this project enables. This project makes fossil fuel energy unnecessary for so many people.
@@andrewday3206 It's a fair and important point to raise. I expect this has had serious talk time behind closed doors. If I read things correctly at the NPAN Website, they claim that there has been other site assessments that would be better suited for pumped hydro projects external to national parks. I would need to check to be sure, but I don't think there would be any other sites that have the gross capacity that the Snowy Scheme would have. Plus have reservoirs already in place at suitable varying altitudes, which obviously would curtail project costs enormously. They are also not happy about the cloud seeding towers and practices that are employed either apparently. Yet at the same time they indeed clearly acknowledge that climate change is impacting the park. It's a dilema it would seem for NPAN and the Kosciuszko National Park, their support obviously and totally for national park objectives and values at this point.
This is what happens when the crazies take over the government and sucumb to the cultist ideology of the climate agenda, and lets be clear fighting climate has absolutely nothing to do with the environment, the enviroment will be dispensed with as the cult see fit. Stop Climate Change Madness NOW!
Thanks Grahame. Very informative but somewhat concerning given the trends.
Great story
2:29 🤣
The only candidate who didn't provide a comment was the incumbent? Did I miss something?
Great video/ Thanks my friend
This is mega cool and exciting. No way in the world would I have thought there would be Koala's in Heathcote NP.
1.) What is the current percentage of Full MPA Sanctuary Zone Status (no take) worldwide? It was said 30 % is needed. 2.) Have (best) locations (for Full MPA Sanctuary Zone Status) been determined? 3.) What are the 22 nations that support the 30% Full MPA Sanctuary Zone by 2030 (30x30)? 4.) Would it make more sense to have integrated swaths of area vs. fragmented zones for Full MPA? Please explain. 5.) The question is in 3rd paragraph, if you don't count this as a paragraph. Saddened, disappointed, and only slightly shocked that the Australian government doesn't support the 30x30 target because Australia is an island and because of their abysmal record of caring for koala habitat, livestock ex. sheep (muesling and live export trade), and animals in general. Same for what happened to the cuttlefish gathering. : ( Because of the rampant fires, especially the horror of 2019-2020 fire, it IS shocking that Australia is still pro-coal & still NOT pro-environment! I hope it has opened their minds to reason. California has really been ramping up on pro-environmental, sustainable actions because of the fires there. Hawaii is very pro-environmental because of the wildlife and tourism there. I think both of those states also really love their states natural beauty too. The Film Industry fame is also very vocal, wealthy, influential, and proactive with the government in California and Nationally. I think getting stars to be public for a cause has a big impact due to their notoriety and influence. I live in Cleveland, Ohio, USA along Lake Erie (One of the Great Lakes.) The Great Lakes are of great concern and care for all of us that live along the Great Lakes, whether it be American or Canadian. I think that part of the reason is because they are freshwater, easy to stock fish (walleye & perch) in regards to fishing, and probably not as complicated in terms of biodiversity. Are they? Suggestions for additional topics: 1.)Specific courses of action people can do (ex. letter writing campaigns - provide them with a form letter) as a native and Non-Native Australian. 2.) Educate and explain (provide as a printable resource) the different types of fishing, fishing gear and alternative's (ex. Turtle Excluder Devices - TED's). I will add more later if I think of some more.
The worst thing we could do for our wildlife is to convert more State Forests into the already 6 million hectares of national parks. National parks and their associated environmental activist groups are underpinned by an entrenched lock it up and leave it ideology. This views human intervention as unnatural and denies the need for active fire management. NPWS managers are less than enthusiastic about using fire as a management tool. We then see unprecedented levels of forest fuel leading to high intensity mega fires that kill everything in their path ie. Nov 2019- North Coast NSW.
Thank you for sharing the Australian / NSW development work on improving access to nature areas. You are doing great work there! - Liisa from Parks & Wildlife Finland
The Great Koala National Park would be awesome for our mid-north coast of NSW and bring in $300 million a year!