I'm in the middle of a rebuild and cannot for the life of me find 6th clutch gear. Don't need the whole package Mopar sells (wouldn't spend $2k on it if I did), and Mercedes and Dodge , no help, it's like a phantom part. I found a part in Russia, but $304! I just bought the 5th clutch gear for $125, so why is 6th over double that?
@SWALLDOG4 күн бұрын
That’s super interesting. Thats for sharing. I’ve been running a South Bend 3250 since 2008 in my 01 Cummins 6 speed. And it’s always had problems going in to first and reverse. Maybe it’s time to try something new.
@Bob-gn8ph5 күн бұрын
What tranny fluid should we put in them because I can't find any and it gets confusing😢
@ghostrider515007 күн бұрын
I am very impressed with your workmanship and experience in these. If I ever need my 6 speed rebuilt I will have to ship mine your way. Excellent video to see.
@ghostrider515007 күн бұрын
The nv5600 is an excellent trans. If you know how to work on it. I get overly picky on mine and always ask trans guy on how many they have worked on prior to me doing a standard service.
@Ja3cques15 күн бұрын
Wondering if you would have a solution to my problem (and if its the clutch then ill be buying valair which i likely will already because my south bend shifts like garbage). I have a 12v cummins with a nv4500 i rebuilt with all high quality parts, with the south bend organic/ceramic dual disk and upgraded input. I have a np241dhd and dana 80 disc rear end that was recently rebuilt. Last year i got a 5" aluminum driveshaft made because my slip joint failed on my stock steel shaft. The aluminum shaft amplifies a god awful rattling sound that i compare to a concrete saw. Its significantly louder than my exhaust under load, especially in 4th. Would swapping to a valair eliminate this sound? Its unbelievably frustrating to spend $3k (canadian) on a clutch and $1500 for a drive shaft for it to make my truck sound broken all the time. Yes, we get absolutely screwed on cost, its Canada.
@johnchamberlin479116 күн бұрын
Good video
@justsaynrush968916 күн бұрын
I have done a lot of work "especially engine" on my 05 dually. Have a 5th wheel and travel the western mts. This has been in my plans lately But so far have just triple wrapped exh. from engine past the trans. Good maintenance and quality lube is important but heavy loads long hills and high temps are reason for added insurance.
@nickandtiffanybates834718 күн бұрын
Wish i was close to you my nv5600 2wd needs work
@tonnnyy7766Ай бұрын
Great job man 👍 Are you in Washington? Greetings from Vancouver WA
@DieselsandDirtbagsАй бұрын
aye the beanie cover lets go!!
@GregariousAntithesisАй бұрын
So curious, how do you get the heavy damn thing up on your work bench? Going to assume it takes two.
@Bob-gn8ph5 күн бұрын
The chain hoist is literally right there
@shawnwright5332Ай бұрын
Just replace it with a nv5600 problem solved for sure
@2nsane2005Ай бұрын
Damn I wish I knew not to use Luk clutches before I put one in 30k kms ago hahah.
@dirksmatАй бұрын
I had my 5600 rebuilt a couple years ago and every since it’s been rebuilt my shifter seems to float across the rack and you cannot feel the “detents” of the gear making it very difficult to find each gear. For example my shifter goes to the left past 1st and 2nd I have to come back to the right a bit to find the gears. Same goes for reverse. Any suggestions? I had the trans back at a different shop for an input shaft and they didn’t have an answer for me. Thank you !
@bryandepiazzy8679Ай бұрын
Great breakdown. Can you do a video on dos and don’ts when driving or beating on a g56?
@AuroraCambell-vs1ezАй бұрын
Thank you !!! your video was very informative and you spoke clearly and no long waits you got right to the problem
@cynicaltexan9639Ай бұрын
How does having a heavy duty case help be a oem?
@cynicaltexan9639Ай бұрын
How? I have an g56 and I’m not nice and it’s fine at 105k
@sparlin882 ай бұрын
I have a NV5600 on my 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 5.9 diesel . It has a South bend Duel Friction and the throw-out bearings makes a dry grinding sound . This is my second Throw-out and from the start the second one makes the same dry grinding sound. The mechanic said he thinks it is . So now after seeing this video maybe its time for a change . I load a 3,500 lb camper and pull a trailer that when loaded is about 3500 lb . Which Valair would you recommend for me application ? So tired of the grinding sound every time i put the clutch in . People look at me and its embarrassing What would the price be for the Valair ? Thanks
@dptp9lf2 ай бұрын
Everything looks so dry? Was it ran out of oil?
@dcmtrader2 ай бұрын
This is the junk the public gets now, likely for a gang of $$.
@johnmayes92222 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video.. what is wrong if it won’t shift to any gear or won’t even come out of gear ? Please help
@GregariousAntithesis2 ай бұрын
So have you actually seen a cracked or damaged aluminum rear tail housing from use? Id take aviation form a gasket with a paper gasket or type 2 form a gasket any day over RYV.
@longrangegear2 ай бұрын
Yes I have, there’s several transmissions that have come in the shop ran low on oil from cracked housings. We only build them with cast iron housings. For sealant, Permatex MaxFlex is our choice for nv4500s and it works great.
@1g_dsm_life1542 ай бұрын
I just replaced the tail housing on my nv4500 because it was cracked and leaking I used a cast iron one
@GregariousAntithesis2 ай бұрын
@@1g_dsm_life154 my concern is the consistency of a iron casting in india or china.
@1g_dsm_life1542 ай бұрын
@@GregariousAntithesisI bought a super cheap one it was $100 dollars honestly the casting seems pretty nice and the sealing surfaces and machining all seems to be pretty nice It seems just as high quality as the original just heavier duty. I haven't noticed any leaking after my rebuild or anything.
@buildingsalvage2 ай бұрын
Is the quiet version offered for the (2002) 7.3 and ZF6 combo?
@JL___2 ай бұрын
Awesome! I'm in the process of "refreshing and upgrading" my 12v 2nd gen. Mine is a 2wd nv4500 truck and i bought a matching 4x4 donor. Already have the donor truck stripped to bare frame. Cleaned, sanded and painted. Parts collecting for the summer (Hurricanes and humidity stopping progress lol) then rebuild onto the 4x4 next winter. Looking forward to any cummins related content.
@muzzy24v892 ай бұрын
Nice 2nd gen! Can't wait to see what you do with it.I have the freedom offroad control arms and trac bar for the last 100,000 miles and love them. Quality parts for a great price.
@DonDummer-bk4fn2 ай бұрын
This is my truck, Andrew got me all fixed up and back on the road. The man knows his stuff and treats the customer right. Hopefully this will be educational for others; replace the retainer when you do a clutch replacement on a G56!
@nickkiosk55132 ай бұрын
I have a 03 dodge 2500 5.9 with a nv5600 6 speed the truck has 230k miles on it im the second owner, anytime the clutch is engaged even in nuetral i get a really loud like gear clashing noise its not noticeable when im driving or sitting in a parking lot but if you get out and stand next to it you can hear it and also when im in a drive threw its really loud with a wall being up close for the sound to bounce off of. Would you have any idea what would be causing this noise? Ive seen around on the internet from trying to diagnose it myself that it is very common to have a bit of a rattle in ur transmission but id like to make sure.
@merlepatterson2 ай бұрын
2:13 aren't those white plastic retainers on the clutch cylinder pin supposed to break (or you cut thm) after it's installed?
@longrangegear2 ай бұрын
Yes, that’s why we highlighted it. The plastic retainers are supposed to break on first depression of the pedal- the throwout was stopping the movement of the clutch fork entirely.
@merlepatterson2 ай бұрын
@@longrangegear Ah, I see. So it wouldn't even extend because the TO baring was sexed. Makes sense.
@jameswalterswalterstransmi19332 ай бұрын
I'm working on a G56 and wondering if ther is a go no go spec on the synchros
@Aleasysn2 ай бұрын
Great video, i swapped my 98 12v from a 47re to nv4500 and it has 400k miles on it and hasnt given me any issue at 450hp. This winter i plan on common rail swapping my truck is there any upgrayou can recommend specifically to handle the power of the common rail engines when i start turning it up
@longrangegear2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I can almost guarantee you start having issues if start modifying your common rail in front of an NV4500. These transmissions were never designed for the power that is now commonplace in the later 5.9’s. The factory torque rating is 460 ft-lbs… You can either be very careful with it (but what fun is that?!?) or start budgeting for an NV5600/G56/ZF6 swap.
@Aleasysn2 ай бұрын
@@longrangegear I see, i planned on tuning it and running a factory 6.7 turbo with a controller for the vgt/exhaust brake. I may definitely need to look at the 5600
@rayocaballo61222 ай бұрын
Way impressive you 2 know each other’s moves
@longrangegear2 ай бұрын
Zach and I are two pieces of a well-oiled machine 🤘🏼
@robroy57292 ай бұрын
Have you ever paired an NV4500 with a NP205 that have different input and output splines resulting in the use of a coupler which is said to interfere with the output seal on the trans? If so I'd love to know as I am in the process of swapping a 2wd NV4500 to 4wd and mating it with an NP205. Also, what is your opinion on MT90 apposed to MT85? I am told the viscosity is the only difference. Amazing video series on this by the way, seen many and this one is by far the most cut and dry and to the point!!!
@longrangegear2 ай бұрын
Usually when pairing with a 6 bolt NP205 you’ll use a coupler and omit the rear transmission seal, and instead use a GM style gasket or RTV between the transmission and Tcase.
@robroy57292 ай бұрын
@@longrangegear Could leaving the seal uninstalled cause the trans and t-case to swap fluids?? If so I'm curious if the trans and t-case can run the same fluid. In this application gears are gears, the fluid is only particular to the carbon fiber synchro's in the trans?
@longrangegear2 ай бұрын
@@robroy5729 they would only begin to mix fluid if your tcase input seal failed. Your tcase requires a heavy gear oil, the trans requires a very light synchromesh-type oil. They should not be interchanged.
@haywardstewart28252 ай бұрын
What would the total bill be on a job like that ? Love your work ! I liked,save and subscribed 🖖🏻
@longrangegear2 ай бұрын
Thank you! And our NV4500 rebuild cost starts at $2650 and can increase based on damage if any exists. Check out our website at www.lrgdiesel.com
@JL___2 ай бұрын
Can't wait to start the rebuild and conversion from 2wd to 4x4 on my NV4500. Thanks for all the informative videos. Ill be re-watching them in the garage during every step. You aren't kidding about the green sleeve compound. That stuff is incredible. Used it on my 12v suburban swap for the hydro brakes to hold the gear on the power steering pump. Waited a tad to long to get it pressed fully on and man was it a bear to do afterwards.
@philip4x4guy2 ай бұрын
So interesting to see, all I've done is an np435. I'd love to see a zf5 and zf6, do you do many of those?
@longrangegear2 ай бұрын
Zf5’s rarely, but Zf6’s come in from time to time.
@designfabrication5122 ай бұрын
That was a great video… now I have to buy more tools ha. Are you getting the NV4500 rebuild kits from Torque King or do I get it from you?
@designfabrication5122 ай бұрын
Ok dammit…… A month ago when I got my 12 valve I was afraid of this little project but after watching you guys multiple times I amd confident enough to do it myself.
@thomasexeter973 ай бұрын
Can I run a 6 speed clutch on an nv4500 with the larger input shaft upgrade?
@brianshannon43683 ай бұрын
What size bearing puller are you using to putt that 3,4 hub assembly
@prevost86863 ай бұрын
I’ve ran Amsoil’s MTF for 180K . No issues so far but I do agree that Redline makes a great MTF as well.
@Ares06153 ай бұрын
Thank you for the help, my input shaft just sheared of on mine and in the middle of tearing into it had some prices fall out, being the synchro hub springs and pieces.
@1991tommygun3 ай бұрын
Wish you had something for the NV4500LD
@randyr45283 ай бұрын
Would you convert a 12 valve to a propane burner. 10.5 comp. Ford six HIE. Imco 200 carb. Volkswagen distributor gear off of acc drive. To get the timing right. ???? Now It WOULD WORK. 😊
@nickkramer39743 ай бұрын
Where are you located?
@braylinbateman43693 ай бұрын
If u can shift with out the clutch, with out any grinding are u still damaging synchros like ppl say?
@schmooot3 ай бұрын
At 1:03 you said the slider only goes on one way and that you had a video on how to assemble. do you mean there is only one orientation (taper up or down) Or only one rotational position?
@tsi87supr603 ай бұрын
Atf was used in 3 & 4 speeds back in the day. More modern stuff I'm not sure iof.
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I'm in the middle of a rebuild and cannot for the life of me find 6th clutch gear. Don't need the whole package Mopar sells (wouldn't spend $2k on it if I did), and Mercedes and Dodge , no help, it's like a phantom part. I found a part in Russia, but $304! I just bought the 5th clutch gear for $125, so why is 6th over double that?
That’s super interesting. Thats for sharing. I’ve been running a South Bend 3250 since 2008 in my 01 Cummins 6 speed. And it’s always had problems going in to first and reverse. Maybe it’s time to try something new.
What tranny fluid should we put in them because I can't find any and it gets confusing😢
I am very impressed with your workmanship and experience in these. If I ever need my 6 speed rebuilt I will have to ship mine your way. Excellent video to see.
The nv5600 is an excellent trans. If you know how to work on it. I get overly picky on mine and always ask trans guy on how many they have worked on prior to me doing a standard service.
Wondering if you would have a solution to my problem (and if its the clutch then ill be buying valair which i likely will already because my south bend shifts like garbage). I have a 12v cummins with a nv4500 i rebuilt with all high quality parts, with the south bend organic/ceramic dual disk and upgraded input. I have a np241dhd and dana 80 disc rear end that was recently rebuilt. Last year i got a 5" aluminum driveshaft made because my slip joint failed on my stock steel shaft. The aluminum shaft amplifies a god awful rattling sound that i compare to a concrete saw. Its significantly louder than my exhaust under load, especially in 4th. Would swapping to a valair eliminate this sound? Its unbelievably frustrating to spend $3k (canadian) on a clutch and $1500 for a drive shaft for it to make my truck sound broken all the time. Yes, we get absolutely screwed on cost, its Canada.
Good video
I have done a lot of work "especially engine" on my 05 dually. Have a 5th wheel and travel the western mts. This has been in my plans lately But so far have just triple wrapped exh. from engine past the trans. Good maintenance and quality lube is important but heavy loads long hills and high temps are reason for added insurance.
Wish i was close to you my nv5600 2wd needs work
Great job man 👍 Are you in Washington? Greetings from Vancouver WA
aye the beanie cover lets go!!
So curious, how do you get the heavy damn thing up on your work bench? Going to assume it takes two.
The chain hoist is literally right there
Just replace it with a nv5600 problem solved for sure
Damn I wish I knew not to use Luk clutches before I put one in 30k kms ago hahah.
I had my 5600 rebuilt a couple years ago and every since it’s been rebuilt my shifter seems to float across the rack and you cannot feel the “detents” of the gear making it very difficult to find each gear. For example my shifter goes to the left past 1st and 2nd I have to come back to the right a bit to find the gears. Same goes for reverse. Any suggestions? I had the trans back at a different shop for an input shaft and they didn’t have an answer for me. Thank you !
Great breakdown. Can you do a video on dos and don’ts when driving or beating on a g56?
Thank you !!! your video was very informative and you spoke clearly and no long waits you got right to the problem
How does having a heavy duty case help be a oem?
How? I have an g56 and I’m not nice and it’s fine at 105k
I have a NV5600 on my 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 5.9 diesel . It has a South bend Duel Friction and the throw-out bearings makes a dry grinding sound . This is my second Throw-out and from the start the second one makes the same dry grinding sound. The mechanic said he thinks it is . So now after seeing this video maybe its time for a change . I load a 3,500 lb camper and pull a trailer that when loaded is about 3500 lb . Which Valair would you recommend for me application ? So tired of the grinding sound every time i put the clutch in . People look at me and its embarrassing What would the price be for the Valair ? Thanks
Everything looks so dry? Was it ran out of oil?
This is the junk the public gets now, likely for a gang of $$.
Thanks for the video.. what is wrong if it won’t shift to any gear or won’t even come out of gear ? Please help
So have you actually seen a cracked or damaged aluminum rear tail housing from use? Id take aviation form a gasket with a paper gasket or type 2 form a gasket any day over RYV.
Yes I have, there’s several transmissions that have come in the shop ran low on oil from cracked housings. We only build them with cast iron housings. For sealant, Permatex MaxFlex is our choice for nv4500s and it works great.
I just replaced the tail housing on my nv4500 because it was cracked and leaking I used a cast iron one
@@1g_dsm_life154 my concern is the consistency of a iron casting in india or china.
@@GregariousAntithesisI bought a super cheap one it was $100 dollars honestly the casting seems pretty nice and the sealing surfaces and machining all seems to be pretty nice It seems just as high quality as the original just heavier duty. I haven't noticed any leaking after my rebuild or anything.
Is the quiet version offered for the (2002) 7.3 and ZF6 combo?
Awesome! I'm in the process of "refreshing and upgrading" my 12v 2nd gen. Mine is a 2wd nv4500 truck and i bought a matching 4x4 donor. Already have the donor truck stripped to bare frame. Cleaned, sanded and painted. Parts collecting for the summer (Hurricanes and humidity stopping progress lol) then rebuild onto the 4x4 next winter. Looking forward to any cummins related content.
Nice 2nd gen! Can't wait to see what you do with it.I have the freedom offroad control arms and trac bar for the last 100,000 miles and love them. Quality parts for a great price.
This is my truck, Andrew got me all fixed up and back on the road. The man knows his stuff and treats the customer right. Hopefully this will be educational for others; replace the retainer when you do a clutch replacement on a G56!
I have a 03 dodge 2500 5.9 with a nv5600 6 speed the truck has 230k miles on it im the second owner, anytime the clutch is engaged even in nuetral i get a really loud like gear clashing noise its not noticeable when im driving or sitting in a parking lot but if you get out and stand next to it you can hear it and also when im in a drive threw its really loud with a wall being up close for the sound to bounce off of. Would you have any idea what would be causing this noise? Ive seen around on the internet from trying to diagnose it myself that it is very common to have a bit of a rattle in ur transmission but id like to make sure.
2:13 aren't those white plastic retainers on the clutch cylinder pin supposed to break (or you cut thm) after it's installed?
Yes, that’s why we highlighted it. The plastic retainers are supposed to break on first depression of the pedal- the throwout was stopping the movement of the clutch fork entirely.
@@longrangegear Ah, I see. So it wouldn't even extend because the TO baring was sexed. Makes sense.
I'm working on a G56 and wondering if ther is a go no go spec on the synchros
Great video, i swapped my 98 12v from a 47re to nv4500 and it has 400k miles on it and hasnt given me any issue at 450hp. This winter i plan on common rail swapping my truck is there any upgrayou can recommend specifically to handle the power of the common rail engines when i start turning it up
Unfortunately, I can almost guarantee you start having issues if start modifying your common rail in front of an NV4500. These transmissions were never designed for the power that is now commonplace in the later 5.9’s. The factory torque rating is 460 ft-lbs… You can either be very careful with it (but what fun is that?!?) or start budgeting for an NV5600/G56/ZF6 swap.
@@longrangegear I see, i planned on tuning it and running a factory 6.7 turbo with a controller for the vgt/exhaust brake. I may definitely need to look at the 5600
Way impressive you 2 know each other’s moves
Zach and I are two pieces of a well-oiled machine 🤘🏼
Have you ever paired an NV4500 with a NP205 that have different input and output splines resulting in the use of a coupler which is said to interfere with the output seal on the trans? If so I'd love to know as I am in the process of swapping a 2wd NV4500 to 4wd and mating it with an NP205. Also, what is your opinion on MT90 apposed to MT85? I am told the viscosity is the only difference. Amazing video series on this by the way, seen many and this one is by far the most cut and dry and to the point!!!
Usually when pairing with a 6 bolt NP205 you’ll use a coupler and omit the rear transmission seal, and instead use a GM style gasket or RTV between the transmission and Tcase.
@@longrangegear Could leaving the seal uninstalled cause the trans and t-case to swap fluids?? If so I'm curious if the trans and t-case can run the same fluid. In this application gears are gears, the fluid is only particular to the carbon fiber synchro's in the trans?
@@robroy5729 they would only begin to mix fluid if your tcase input seal failed. Your tcase requires a heavy gear oil, the trans requires a very light synchromesh-type oil. They should not be interchanged.
What would the total bill be on a job like that ? Love your work ! I liked,save and subscribed 🖖🏻
Thank you! And our NV4500 rebuild cost starts at $2650 and can increase based on damage if any exists. Check out our website at www.lrgdiesel.com
Can't wait to start the rebuild and conversion from 2wd to 4x4 on my NV4500. Thanks for all the informative videos. Ill be re-watching them in the garage during every step. You aren't kidding about the green sleeve compound. That stuff is incredible. Used it on my 12v suburban swap for the hydro brakes to hold the gear on the power steering pump. Waited a tad to long to get it pressed fully on and man was it a bear to do afterwards.
So interesting to see, all I've done is an np435. I'd love to see a zf5 and zf6, do you do many of those?
Zf5’s rarely, but Zf6’s come in from time to time.
That was a great video… now I have to buy more tools ha. Are you getting the NV4500 rebuild kits from Torque King or do I get it from you?
Ok dammit…… A month ago when I got my 12 valve I was afraid of this little project but after watching you guys multiple times I amd confident enough to do it myself.
Can I run a 6 speed clutch on an nv4500 with the larger input shaft upgrade?
What size bearing puller are you using to putt that 3,4 hub assembly
I’ve ran Amsoil’s MTF for 180K . No issues so far but I do agree that Redline makes a great MTF as well.
Thank you for the help, my input shaft just sheared of on mine and in the middle of tearing into it had some prices fall out, being the synchro hub springs and pieces.
Wish you had something for the NV4500LD
Would you convert a 12 valve to a propane burner. 10.5 comp. Ford six HIE. Imco 200 carb. Volkswagen distributor gear off of acc drive. To get the timing right. ???? Now It WOULD WORK. 😊
Where are you located?
If u can shift with out the clutch, with out any grinding are u still damaging synchros like ppl say?
At 1:03 you said the slider only goes on one way and that you had a video on how to assemble. do you mean there is only one orientation (taper up or down) Or only one rotational position?
Atf was used in 3 & 4 speeds back in the day. More modern stuff I'm not sure iof.
how mutch $ to get my rebuilt nv5600 ?