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The 2024 RHD Model Y LR AWD (dual motor) is a much better vehicle than the 2024 RHD RWD Model Y (single motor) by paying the extra AU$14,600 (VIC driveaway price difference) ~ just charge the LR AWD upto 85% and enjoy a much better and smoother car ride day to day
I watched the lot, great plan b info for me. I just came back from my own model y 1800km trip. Plan A, B and C is good. Great tip for share from sbrp then apple maps then Tesla.
I watched the lot, great video
I don't have the burger button on the charge card on the car screen 🤔 has it been moved?
Well Tesla says once per week charge to 100% other times probably keep at 80% so you can do with both type of batteries
@ImIIgI - yes, that is correct charge it upto 100% and use car and let it go down to 2% to 3%, then charge it back upto 85% and only let it go down to 15% & no lower than that and charge backup to 85%. But many people charge their car upto 100% every night as they leave it plugged in overnight at home on a 7kw/11kw mid-fast EVSE wall-charger they have at home
It depends on where your Model Y is manufactured. The Model Y RWD in the US is also a NMC battery. Therefore the RWD in the US has lower range any way you look at it. Not a car guy's logic definitely applies to the US Model 3 LR (NMC battery) vs US Model 3 RWD (LFP battery) though
That's interesting, I didn't know that about US models.
The bigger, the battery, the less battery cycles
Interesting.
If you have a STD I would suggest a visit to the doctor 😂
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I have thought about this question many times. You are completely right that the standard range batteries should be charged to 100% at least once a week. However, leaving your car at high states of charge isn’t good for the battery regardless if it’s a NCM or LFP. If you want to optimize an LFP battery, you should charge it to 100% and leave as soon as the battery hits 100%. Sadly for the Australian market, you don’t get the BYD LFP batteries like we do in Europe. The CATL batteries are fine, but they don’t charge nearly as good as the BYD. I would therefore only consider the long range if you do long trips regularly, but I think the standard range is fine for most people.
All good points, I guess it does comes down to some other points that the person may consider. Seeing as it's a friend of a friend in my case, hard to know. I guess everyone has to look at their individual needs and go from there. ☺️
@@notacarguy_au @olley7692 - it seems there is a misunderstanding about LFP battery ~ it is meant to be charged upto 100% once every 200 hours (which is about 8 days, so lets say 7 days [a week]) and once its charged to 100% you are meant to let it fully run down to 2% - 3% [which people dont seem to do] and then in that 7 - 8 day period you are meant to keep the LFP battery at a charge level of between 15% - 85% [like with the NMC battery]. Most people keep charging it up to 100% and then probably letting it go down to about 55% - 60% then charging backup to 100% overnight, which is not going to be good for the LFP battery
LFP 100%
Thanks for taking the time to comment. 🙏🏻
You are right, the LFP is the better option, I charge my Model Y to 100 percent each time I charge it. Also I have been looking forward to your Melbourne to the Gold Coast and back so bring it on. Thanks Rob
I think you may be one of the few who is looking forward to the road trip videos. 🤣
I ordered a Tesla Model Y. Long Range, Dual Motor. Why "Long Range"? Because it is sometimes fun to play with the additional HP's and acceleration and it STILL brings you home! 🙂
Good point, those could also be deciding factors. I was going to mention them in the video, but forgot. ☺️
If charging is not convenient and not possible at home then buy a hybrid instead
That's an interesting perspective. I feel that hybrids are the worst of both worlds as you get all the complexities of a combustion engine and then a rather small battery which then has to work hard to drag around that combustion engine. Of course that is just my view, so it may still be a solution that works for others. I think it also comes down to the driver's needs. If they are only going to be driving around town most of the time. They probably don't need to "fill up" that often.
@@notacarguy_au toyota has had hybrids for over 20 years with little issues A yaris hybrid is about $30k , a corolla hybrid about $35k , they are down near 4.5l/100k so right round what it would cost you to public fill an ev to run wothout the inconvenience of public charging , once a Year service is a couple hundred bucks If you drive little anyway then you dont even need to fill up that often in a hybrid to bother and take a trip no issues Asking the ev mechanic and a brand new battery in a prius is $3500 fitted with decent warranty , find a 10 year old toyota hybird and lowball it for battery issues and when the time comes its a fairly cheap fix I dare say resale on a 3-5 year old toyota hybrid would kill a dolphin/ora/atto/mg As good as ev’s are if you are forced to public charge its not all that fun or convenient for many Despite the naysayers hybrids will have a good hold on the market , theres a reason why its been 2 year waits for rav4’s
I bought the MYLR. For me personally I travel frequently to my folks who are 200Kms away. The LR easily does 400Kms on a single charge so that's a big plus for me - I've never once used a supercharger in fact (home charging). Extra performance is nice, and while I can't compare it to the RWD having no experience, the AWD certainly holds the road amazingly well. The wear on the tyres so far has been perfectly even which might be another small advantage, and don't forget fog lights (is that true?). Seriously very happy with my decision.
I think for your needs the Long Range would make more sense. Though I a guessing you are able to charge at home? If so that make's it a fair bit easier. I can see how it could be less convenient if you couldn't charge at home. Certainly not a deal breaker, but less than ideal. Could still charge at shopping centers or slow council chargers once or so a week. Would be cool if gyms installed slow chargers, so you could top up the car whilst you're at the gym.
I’d be looking at what charging options they have near home, work and other frequented places. We live in an apartment, no building charging (yet) the nearest charger to us is a 5 minute walk away and a level 2 Chargefox. There are no Tesla fast chargers within 20+ mins of us so for the overwhelming majority of our charges are on the cheap level 2s so having the faster charging, longer range model would be pointless for us. Also, if you look at the recent charging grants from the Governments (State & Fed), they’re mostly targeting level 2 curb side sharing for non car park EV drivers. Now in the event you move into an apartment down the track, (a very common housing step these days in the city) then the LFP is a much easier sell to the building Luddites as they are considered a ‘safer’ battery. Finally, even if your main use case is hwy driving, your range is still limited by the placement of the charging network which, based on the RAA and NRMA rollout plans (2 of the largest Chargefox networks) then give or take your stops are going to be 150km apart. So your high level distances will be 150, 300, 450, 600 (very roughly - lots of factors a play in real life) I can’t see any advantage for the LR over the SR given the difference in range is maybe 50-80 kms let alone the additional cost. On the performance side of the argument, the SR has more than enough power around town to burn some licence points. I couldn’t see any reason to pay more chasing 2.5 seconds on my 0-100 times when most of my trips are along 50 or 40 marked roads.
I think you've thought it out very well. Lucky that you have the level 2 charger a 5 minute walk away. That should be very handy so that you can maybe leave the car there for a couple of hours once or twice a week to top up when you need to.
I ordered the RWD model Y . Could not justify the extra money for the dual motor .
I was the same. And after having it for almost 2 years, I have found the RWD to be fine.
Hi Lee I think the value proposition of the current rear wheel drive coupled with the battery charging requirements of each car would push me to the cheaper rear wheel drive model Y. I just wish the LFP model was a little faster but you can have everything!
Ain’t that the truth? We can’t always get what we want. 🤣
Memory seat buttons on the door so you can adjust the seat before you get in... great at preventing the knee crushing squeeze i have to perform after my short queen partner has driven our car. 😂
Luckily for me, my wife and I are both short. 🤣 but I still really like the seat moving back to let me out as I need the seat quite a bit forward to reach the pedals. 🤣
Got my RWD Model Y in April 24. Perfect for me in suburbs 20kms from city. No regrets and glad I didn’t get the LR as, for me, it’s just not necessary. Charge it once a week with Tesla wall charger at home 👍
That sounds a lot like what my mate’s neighbours use may be.
Get the LR if you want/need AWD. It doesn't make much sense to get it just for the extra battery capacity.
I think you’re right.
We bought a Model Y RWD in NOV 23 and have charged at home 1-2 a week from 11kW 3 Phase Tesla wall charger and still car says 430km range when at 100%, just as it did the first time we charged. I would like to see a long range with LFP Single or Dual motor and even if it needed slightly larger battery. The LFP is just set and forget charging. Easy.
From what I understand the LFP batteries can’t push out enough power at the same time to power the AWD cars.
I have a standard range LFP battery, I don't regret buying this, because of ease of use.
I am similar.
Release the road trip videos, they’re entertaining.
Thank you. Will see how the editing goes.
We are just about to order the Model Y RWD because of the LFT battery. We will probably only charge it full once a week. The long range sounds good but what turned us off was the fact you can't charge it to 100% unless you are going on a holiday, yielding a similar amount of km anyhow. (it will be our second vehicle anyhow)
Pretty much the same as I understand. Though you can charge it to 100% whenever you want but it’s not advisable.
If their current living situation is the only reason for wanting the larger battery, I really wouldn't bother for the reasons you outlined. If they want the other features of the LR, then go for it. I also vote YES for more road trip videos. The longer the better.
Good point, will see how we go with the road trip videos. ☺️
RWD is less expensive, more efficient and degrades slower. If you are doing a road trip, ask yourself, how often will you be able to skip a charging stop in a LR. Unless the chargers are less than 50 km apart, you will do the same stop, pay more to charge it and potentially wait longer if the charger is capped - e.g Tesla 120kw charger with two cars charging will be limited to 60 ish per car. Connect RWD and LR and you will get roughly the same charging speed, and a bigger battery to fill.
Yep, I think I agree on all of those. Of course there is the performance and AWD features, but I guess everyone needs to look at what is important for them. The LR also charges at a faster rate, but I am not sure that makes that much of a difference.
@@notacarguy_au ~TmPGEO9234234211 - The 2024 RHD Model Y LR AWD (dual motor) is a much better vehicle than the 2024 RHD RWD Model Y (single motor) by paying the extra AU$14,600 (VIC driveaway price difference) ~ the two are like chalk and cheese, the RWD is like a dude doing to gym and lifting weight and eating average food, whereas the AWD LongRange is like an athlete on steroids and much muscular. RWD is highest seller in AU and worldwide because people have really pushed themselves already to buy the Model Y RWD and can't put in that extra bit of money to get the much better version of the Model Y
Definitely Long Range. Obviously extended range compared to RWD is an advantage when travelling outside of urban areas but its performance as well as being AWD puts LR ahead of RWD imo.
AWD I agree, but for the performance side of things, I haven't found that the RWD is lacking. Of course it isn't as zippy as the LR or Performance models, but how often do you "need" that performance? I get that it's not about need, but it's only one of the many factors I think to take into account.
@@notacarguy_au you're right most people would not need the extra 1.9 seconds but it helps when merging onto freeways or gaps when turning into traffic. Personally it just makes the car a bit more interesting to drive.
Keep to the point people. Lee is asking your thoughts on LR vs RWD for someone with limited charging opportunities. Performance, AWD yada yada is not relevant to this discussion.
That’s actually my fault. I meant to mention those points in the video but forgot. I don’t know if they would make a difference to Simon’s neighbour. But I think they would be worth considering.
I'd buy a house where you can charge at home. Soooo much better. By the way, do both battery types need to charge to 100% once a week? What a pain waiting for the last 20% if charging publicly.
By your logic, why not just buy an electric helicopter and just get someone to fly you around everywhere. 🤣 Most folks can't "just" buy the house they want. 🤷🏻 As I said in the video, the LR battery recommends that you only charge to 80% on a regular basis and only go to 100% when you know you'll need the range for a long drive. On long drives you wouldn't wait for that last 20% anyways as all batteries charging rates slows once they get to around 80%. We've found that on most long drives, the car is ready before we are to get going.
Nicely explained, thanks Lee!
Thanks
Its a faster car with awd , that's the main benefit
I did mention to my mate that it does have more "vroom", but forgot to mention that in the video. 🤣
You reach a 100 in 6 seconds in RWD which is when you hit the speed limit. 2 second faster give or take on the LR
We bought our RWD Model Y which has a WLTP range of 455 km. The LR has a range of 535, but with only 80% charge on a day to day basis, you are looking at a very small difference. I also think that the dual motors must cost a bit on the effiency, but I can’t back that up. The different technology of the batteries should give an advantage to the LR on time spent at the SuC on road trips, but in a crowded SuC with all stalls occupied, you might not feel the difference. I think Tesla Bjorn made a comparison between the two models, where the LR charged faster up to 50% and from there, they were even.
Thanks for that, I forgot to mention the faster charging. Interesting that in Bjorns tests it didn't make that much difference.
Neither will actually do that distance. We're talking about 350 km for the RWD at highway speeds
I'd certainly prefer the Model Y LR over an STD!
I'm not sure. I guess the LR has it's advantages, but I haven't felt like I am really "missing out" from not having it.
What’s your real world range on your LR? I don’t know anyone who do daily road trips, and here in Denmark the average drive is 50 km a day. Personally it’s much less. I have family who bought the LR and they do not feel the advantage on a daily basis.
@@jriis2010 I was just joshing. I have a 2024 MY RWD (or standard) and it does 435 real world range in my fortnightly stats between charges! It's amazing for what I need.
Could not agree more with your comments. Im turning Tesla vision off
That does seem to be the consensus.
How do I find out when this is released? I'm in the UK, and am still on 2024.8.9 and I can't find any information about a release timetable...! Any help would be appreciated!
Unfortunately there is no timetable that I know of and it seem quite random as to how and when these get pushed out. Normally my car gets the update about 2-3 weeks after it has started rolling out.
@notacarguy_au ah okay that's so helpful to know - thanks for replying, I'll be patient...!
You have to be joking , travelling in an over expensive mibile phone. Hope you keep the ev for at least 10 years, then tell me how affordable your ev actually is to run.!!!!!!!
Does someone need a hug?🤗
I think it’s rubbish. Turned it off after persisting for a couple of days.
That does seem to be what many people are finding.
What you seem to be failing to realize about the Vision based park assist with it telling you to stop when you can still back further into the space, is that it has trouble differentiating between curb and other random things It see's objects, not necessarily "Height", so a weird patch in the lot can appear to be a possible danger. Like when you first turned it on, you could see that it was having trouble making out what was with the piles of leaves and stuff that was in the space, so the "blob" moved to show that as being something that you could potentially hit. Same with when you were backing into the charge point. It saw the small rubber stop bar, but couldn't judge what it was or how high it was, so it was just telling you to stop just in case. This is why backup cameras are there, too... for you to decide whether what it sees is REALLY a possible problem or not.
That's a lot of words.
I have USS sensors and after the update it switches to TeslaVision. I don’t have the option to turn it off
That's odd
I nearly reversed into my brick garage wall. I miss the cm measurements massively. I used to stop at 45 cms from the wall, but trying to judge the exact distance now is really hard. I will try to adjust to it, but if it's not helpful (and I nearly crash into the wall again), then I will turn this off.
Yes, it doesn't seem to be working well for most folks who are commenting.
Had it on for 24 hours then turned it off. Looks like a three year old grabbed a crayon and is colouring around the car.
LOL 😂 agree, looks like s@#!
That does seem to be what many people are finding.
It’s utter shit, looks like a kid trying to sketch clouds…
I changed back to standard park assist after 1 day. I would rather see the measurements than grey blobs.
That does seem to be what many people are finding.
Still waiting
Sorry to hear that.
I think , this system will improve over time. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the comment. Improving would be good. But seeing at there is potential of damaging my rather expensive car (though not as expensive as it was last week🤣😭) I’m not sure it’s wise to release a system that is worse than what was there before. I’m assuming Tesla realise this as they’ve left the option for those of us with the sensors to choose which to use. At least they did leave us the option.
I think it will NOT improve over time, at least not in its current iteration. It needs more cameras or ‘something’. What kind of company removes a proven technology to experiment on its customers? We know it won’t get better because it didn’t work when it was released to the public. You don’t release a unproven solution and say we’ll figure it out later. People were buying and driving these cars for months without USS or anything while Tesla promised to figure it out….really? And Tesla fan boys then say, “yeah, it’s not bad”. It not good!
I’ve been using it in my highland and actually prefer it over the USS in my previous car (which had auto park). I like how it shows the lines in the carpark, and as you mentioned at the start of the video you can see objects like poles which USS will miss and there is a risk of hitting. The combination of the vision park assist and hw4 cameras is awesome, it’s interesting to see it retrofitted to older cars and work (to some extent!) objects appearing as blobs is a reminder to actually look out the window and be aware what is out there :) keep trying it every now and then to see how you feel once the initial hesitation lowers ;) I look forward to your videos, real world experiences:)
Unfortunately you seem to be in the minority, at least in the comments here. I’m glad it’s working for you. For me I think the blobs are an issue. Makes it seem very imprecise. Again that could simply be my perception, but that is how it seems to me. And I’m not confident trusting my paintwork on an imprecise blob. 🤣
I'm with you. I have the Highland after a year with a Y will USS. Whilst it is indeed over cautious, I'd prefer that to hitting a low object that the sensors haven't picked up. I find the ability to see what's all around very helpful and just know that I can back in further than it initially tells me I can.
can we agree that you don’t have a choice with the M3? 🤡
@@hungryalpaca4058 I'm not sure if I'm correct, but I think you don't have a choice in the newer Model Ys as well? Since they don't have the sensors? I'm not sure.
@@notacarguy_au yes, I’m aware. But Tesla vision is a poor execution. I also expected more out of the map update and the wipers. Fix those two things and the car is perfect. But that ain’t happening innit
Tried it. Turned it off. Both systems still inferior to the 360 degree systems used by other manufacturers.
It would be nice to have 360, but I think as there is no front camera in the fender, 360 is not possible.
Absolutely spot on. Teslas are inferior at parking compared to even many cheap cars with excellent 360 degree cameras. I've been saying this for a long time and software updates have not changed my mind.
I’ve turned it off after a day. Back to sensors 🇦🇺
That does seem to be the consensus. 😀
I lasted a hour,back to uss
That does seem to be the consensus. 😀
I left it too. So much prefer my USS.
That does seem to be the consensus. 😀
how is your ventilated seat cover holding up? would you still recommend it?
Yeah still going ok. Though I may remove them in winter as I can’t really feel the heated seat through them. 🤣 will see how I go.
Drove Mel to Adelaide and back these last 2 days. Tried Tesla vision but I’ve turned it off and have gone back to using my USS. Most annoying it told me to stop to far from a couple of Tesla chargers???
I did think that may be an issue. Thanks for letting us know.