I’ve been debating getting a muzzle device compatible with my xeno hub to put on my 16 inch faxon pencil barrel lightweight rifle. Thought about putting together another one with the faxon gunner barrel. My Rosco k9 12.5 inch barrel should run great with a can. Good video
@duMaurier1514 сағат бұрын
Sell me your Glock!!
@poortac556811 сағат бұрын
😂
@mickyashey981823 сағат бұрын
Well, I know for the Glock 43 ETS makes The seven round nine round and 12 round magazines and don’t forget shield z9 with +3 ext!!??
@poortac556823 сағат бұрын
As long as you use brass case ammo, the ETS are ok, if you keep them clean. Ive heard nothing but bad things from a lot of Shield mag users. Maybe their newest gen mags are better now though? 🤷♂️
@TheDovahkiin05Күн бұрын
After using both I can say for certain when it comes to the mounts, yes they are the same.
@Sonic3572 күн бұрын
Cylee is actually a good red dot i have to calfs for 45 degree offsets no problems
@poortac55682 күн бұрын
I really like their Ghost model for a lpvo riding red dot 👍
@Sonic3572 күн бұрын
Just got mine made the mistake of getting 1.50 instead of the 1.95 cantilever scope mount but got a 1 inch riser mount so im still happy with it because i can see over my LAM. The throw lever gets in the way of my 45 degree offset Reddot and its very stiff. Im impressed with the scope especially with the extras and the details of inspection and QC. Not a fan of the HUGE D LOL. I this is definitely my new go to budget optic didn't see the coupon part but still happy at night it has a slit glare not as bad as another brand i have but im also impressed nice review
@poortac55682 күн бұрын
yeah, the 1.95 mount is nice to have 👍 This is my favorite “budget” scope company. So far, no other optics in this price range have been as good. Thanks for watching!
@oriontrm3 күн бұрын
But is it NIR compliant or does the paint add more reflectiveness
@poortac55683 күн бұрын
Not sure, but my spray painted helmet does well under nvgs
@Fischer564 күн бұрын
change the intro. sorry
@poortac55684 күн бұрын
I change it up each video 👍
@ryanmurphy36844 күн бұрын
Can you review the Eotech Vu-Du clone they are offering now? Would love to see that in action.
@poortac55684 күн бұрын
If I can get a company to send one out, I will 👍
@omarpineda574 күн бұрын
I've got a battle belt from them and love it. Doing security work atm and have to get my own was thinking about just a normal battle belt but saw that the battle belt flexes too much so ima send it on one of these.
@poortac55684 күн бұрын
I highly suggest getting their padded interior belt. Its a lot more comfortable 👍
@agunner62625 күн бұрын
For anyone having issues with the ear pro being loose on the arc adaptor, use JB weld plastic bonder 2 part epoxy on the ends of the wire and into the holes with a toothpick. Once it’s cured, I wrapped the wire and plastic piece on the ear pro with black electrical tape to keep dirt and water out. Seems pretty sturdy for the time being I’ll update if it doesn’t work out. Costs like 7 bucks at wal mart.
@poortac55685 күн бұрын
good info!
@nesoone1785 күн бұрын
Ive tried a few knock off mounts and have had good luck, when the gbrs mount came out i didnt want to drop $500 just to find out i didnt like the height but it was fine and ended up getting a real one down the line, I want to try the wilcox eotech mount next since those are like $700-$800
@poortac55685 күн бұрын
I love these as test/trial options 👍
@StephenMiller-xv7uv6 күн бұрын
Get a chronograph and test the ammo ! I didn’t see proof of the velocities matching the box out of your 16” barreled rifle ?
@StephenMiller-xv7uv6 күн бұрын
I’ll continue to reload my ammo cheaper and more accurate then anything your buying and shooting out of your 16” barrel that you said in your video gets the velocities the box Advertised is not true period !
@StephenMiller-xv7uv6 күн бұрын
Some brands of M193/55gr3200fos out if a 20” barrel and some M855/SS109 ammo brand do get 3050 fps out of a 20” barrel but none have ever came even close to their advertised fps/ velocity out of a 16” barrel or shorter barrels the psi ratings are different between the 223/556 ammo but who’s shooting 600-1000 yards with either to kill somebody besides our military used too not anymore it’s the 277 Fury very high pressure ammo still doesn’t meet the advertised fps out of the new military weapons either !
@StephenMiller-xv7uv6 күн бұрын
Beyond seclusion ps video proves that no 18” barrel shoots all 3 versions of AAC 5.56 ammo doesn’t shoot 2700fps 77 gr is 2500 plus and 55 gr isn’t 3175 fps it’s only 2800 plus fps out of a 18” barrel on camera ! I’ll say it again your 16” barrel will never get the advertised velocity because they test out of a 24” barrel for almost all factory ammo that I’ve seen even the reloading manuals for there data is almost always out of a 24” barrel !
@TheFasonJranklin6 күн бұрын
What light/ holster are you running in this video?
@poortac55686 күн бұрын
Streamlight TLR1-HL and Alien Gear Rapid Force (level 3) holster.
@StephenMiller-xv7uv6 күн бұрын
Watch the beyond seclusions the chronograph shows that the fps isn’t even close to what’s advertised ! Even out of his 18” barrel ! 20” doesn’t get it done either I’ve chronographed it myself it’s a 24” barrel for both 5.56x45 and 223 respectfully !
@StephenMiller-xv7uv6 күн бұрын
Last comment watch beyond seclusions video he shoots through a quarter and a dime at 100yd on camera it’s k.I.s.s. Keep it simple stupid AAC Ammo you’ll never shoot that with Winchester or Federal SS109 / M855 I reload my own ammo and get close to 1moa with the SS109/M855 bullets and I’ve reload for over 35 years
@StephenMiller-xv7uv6 күн бұрын
A 20” barrel doesn’t get the adversed fps either the chronograph on 5.56 ammo it’s out of a 24” barrel I’ve seen videos nobody’s getting what the 5.56 ammo says out of a 16”,18”,or20”barrel !
@poortac55686 күн бұрын
i wouldnt be surprised, M193 is supposed to be out of a 20 inch barrel though. regular 55gr 5.56 is anyones guess
@StephenMiller-xv7uv6 күн бұрын
I’ve watch beyond seclusions AAC 5.56 55 and 77 black sabre ammo through a chronograph and it’s out of a 18” barrel and 2565 for and 2819 for respectively so they can’t get what’s advertised in a 16” barrel it’s a 24” barrel also to get 2700-3175 fps so 5.56 and 223 are not mooch different it’s proven !
@Genieproreviewing6 күн бұрын
Yeah the Olight company is joke they lie to their customers never flow though their words to the point I don’t even want to carry their Baton 3 pro that tells me I’d rather walk in the dark because if they don’t stand by their words what else don’t they do
@terrence9467 күн бұрын
So they have the screw mounted one and the magnetic optic as well ?
@poortac55687 күн бұрын
The battery charging is magnetic, the optic is mounted to the slide with screws.
@urbanbushcrafter19247 күн бұрын
Thank you China for the garbage optics.
@briancunningham50118 күн бұрын
For 3bills I think I'll stick with holosun for now. Good vid tho, thanks
@poortac55688 күн бұрын
I agree, unless its going on top of an LPVO 👍 Holosun is my favorite mini red dot manufacturer
@gentrydebbie10408 күн бұрын
Older Must have circle & dot on a shotgun .
@poortac55688 күн бұрын
The circle is still too small for that. A 60 moa circle would be better on a shotgun.
@surfsailor20039 күн бұрын
Parallax is particularly important Not to have when using these on a rifle or slug gun as a piggyback or primary, for the longer shots using unorthodox aiming head positions. BTW I have an awesome mod for your PVS14 that few know about that will greatly increase its usability at longer ranges if your interested in getting details. Its not very expensive either you just need to know where to look
@surfsailor20039 күн бұрын
I send back any optic that displays appreciable parallax, the market is full of them
@poortac55688 күн бұрын
I re checked to make sure, but there is no noticeable parallax with this red dot. The dot doesnt move at all, even near the edge, from what I can tell. Cheaper units normally do. This one seems on par with Holosun from what I can tell (minus the mentioned negatives).
@surfsailor20039 күн бұрын
Great review....keep it up.... however you missed a few very important details that the "savvy" experienced look for. Pay attention China PARALLAX (movement of reticle off target with head shift or when reticle approaches the perimeter edges of the glass) And ALUMINUM TYPE ( Ghinaesium, 6061, 7075 and also any treatment designation eg: T6, as well as the type of hard coat anodization of which there are several) No disrespect, just making constructive criticism, Iron sharpens Iron so to speak
@poortac55688 күн бұрын
no disrespect received lol. They say its 7075 aluminum, but dont mention what kind of anodizing or coating used. I doubt its T6. Its design mitigated the need for more expensive metal though, imo. Parallax is great, no noticeable shift. It looks very similar to my Eotech, I was pretty impressed with I just checked. Most cheaper units I have tested have a noticeable shift near the edge, as you said 👍
@poortac55689 күн бұрын
I think I mention it in the video, but I received this optic with the intention of only using it in an upcoming budget pistol red dot durability test. I liked it so much, I decided it earned its own review. Cylee stated the screw hole size is the industry standard in order to fit multiple screw types. So know you will most likely not be able to use this on a Zev cut slide, unless your post are slightly larger than spec. It also looks sweet on a MP5 btw.
@mobilegamersunite8 күн бұрын
I have the BULL pro and I'm testing it on my 460 rowland FNX. If it holds up my HK match will get the same treatment. I like how these keep dirt and grime out of the glass when I carry on my belt.
@poortac55688 күн бұрын
@@mobilegamersunite I still prefer a closed emitter, but this is probably my favorite open design (function wise) 👍
@mobilegamersunite8 күн бұрын
@poortac5568 yeah I might be thinking that over myself. 🤔
@spetsnaz8929 күн бұрын
All I got from this video was "I just got nightvision and look how great my tubes are"
@poortac55689 күн бұрын
I guess you need to pay better attention then 😂
@CarnalPuIpo10 күн бұрын
Could you list the items on your pc, and where you got it? I was looking to get a tacticon pc but need the other items as well.
@poortac556810 күн бұрын
The mag pouch is a Condor 6 mag pouch. I wouldn’t bother with the iphone case personally. But I got it on ebay.
@illestdomer200510 күн бұрын
Think you just convinced me to pair this with my HWS 512 on my MCX Virtus (12.5” 5.56 and 6.75” 300blk).
@poortac556810 күн бұрын
its a great combo with an Eotech for sure 👍 I really like it with my 4 dot bdc model
@99cobra288110 күн бұрын
I have always wanted one of these but I could not take Matbock seriously on their price for one From looking at their website and seeing that they sell $900 backpacks I don't see how anyone could take them seriously The Chinesium one I have now works just fine and if I break it or it gets scratched I won't care
@poortac556810 күн бұрын
Yeah, Id rather buy a couple extra cheap ones 👍
@TR00P3R8410 күн бұрын
Does anyone have a link
@poortac556810 күн бұрын
ebay is your best bet, or maybe Aliexpress.
@ChantalMartin-ro3fo12 күн бұрын
What magazine holster is that? I need one that has a soft back like that so it doesn’t dig in. Thank you!
Nice video, thanks! Between the A20 and the HHC-3C (multi-reticle) of Gowutar, which one would you prefer for a pistol, if you've had a chance to put both through their paces?
@poortac556813 күн бұрын
I really like their HHC-3C reticle, but Im also a big fanboy of the Eotech reticle. So I am a bit bias. If you like the Eotech donut of death, you will like this reticle. If you prefer a single dot, the other would save you $ 👍
@nicepojos876613 күн бұрын
@@poortac5568 Alright, thanks there. I'll look further into this one then. :)
@tony5tark13 күн бұрын
who shoots that far and doesn't use match grade ammo
@poortac556813 күн бұрын
250 yards is not far. I can make hits on steel at 500 easily with most cheap 55 grain ammo.
@Lester.M13 күн бұрын
It’s a 700$ AR-10 that functions and group’s well. Do you think you’re going to get Daniel Defense/ Knights Armament Q.C.? The complaints are laughable.
@poortac556813 күн бұрын
Expecting a properly torqued castle nut is not laughable. Thats like being fine with a car company not tightening your wheel lug nuts, and saying “well its not a Lamborghini” 🤦♂️
@Lester.M13 күн бұрын
@@poortac5568you got a sample size of one. Everyone makes a lemon. No one else making Gen-1-2-3 videos are having the same issues. Quite the opposite. Are you expecting a 200 point inspection for harbor freight prices. They have a lifetime warranty for a 700$ rifle. Let them fix it.
@JamesSmith-mc1lg14 күн бұрын
They are always out of stock
@poortac556814 күн бұрын
Sign up for their emails. At least one of their 5.56 selections goes on sale about once a week. Their 77 OTM goes on sale for around $11 about 2 times a month. They usually get new stock every few days as well.
@ozarkman29114 күн бұрын
In your experience what is the best budget/poverty tier micro dot or pistol dot that can be used for passive aiming. SIG Romeo 5 and the primary arms micro seem to not be the best from what I've seen and wanted to know what you would recommend
@poortac556814 күн бұрын
Passive aiming with night vision? On a pistol or rifle? Also, what is your price range of “poverty tier”? The answer may change based on your answer, but the Holosun 407 that PSA carriers would be the lowest price optic that I would trust my life to. Its a basic model without the solar panel. It comes in stock every now and then for under $200 if I remember correctly. palmettostatearmory.com/holosun-3moa-shake-awake-red-dot-pistol-sight-hs407a.html
@ozarkman29113 күн бұрын
@@poortac5568 use case would be a piggyback mount on top of a prism scope on a rifle. Poverty tier can be flexible I suppose, I'm trying to find something under $300 but if the quality simply isn't there at that bracket I'm willing to save. Just trying to figure out what I can get away with while still being serviceable. Maybe the wrong mindset. Also thank you for your videos, you've helped me out tremendously as I was trying to get things figured out without breaking the bank.
@poortac556813 күн бұрын
@@ozarkman291 no problem, thanks for the support 👍 Yeah, sometimes its better to “buy once, cry once”, but Im all for saving money where I can. If you are ok with an open emitter design and are trying to stay under $300, that dealer specific Holosun 407 model from Palmetto State Armory would be my choice. Its probably my favorite budget option, that really has no negatives, other than being an open emitter design. I dont see a practical use for the solar panel anyway, so this model saves $. An RMR type 2 would be more durable (if you dropped the rifle directly on the optic on concrete), but 3 times the price. You could try a Holosun EPS or 509, but both would most likely need an additional adapter plate. My choice personally, would be the 407. Hope that helps!
@ozarkman29113 күн бұрын
@@poortac5568 that honestly helps a lot, I'd never seen that exact holosun model, likely because it's dealer specific and I don't go to PSAs website. I'm ok with it being open emitter because one layer of cheap glass is likely better than two for passive. Thanks again for the advice.
@poortac556813 күн бұрын
@@ozarkman291 anytime!
@65philo15 күн бұрын
How much does the surefire weigh
@poortac556815 күн бұрын
14.5 ounces
@65philo14 күн бұрын
I have the 14.5 pencil barrel from faxon. And a yhm turbo k. It weighs 11 oz and my POA And POI is minimal at 50 meters. So far I'm very impressed with the faxon pencil 14.5 barrel running suppressed
@poortac556814 күн бұрын
@@65philo I like mine as well. It really helps cut down on weight 👍
@SolarGeneral15 күн бұрын
Have the same plate carrier. It glows like the Las Vegas strip under NODS. It may as well be white instead of Ranger Green.
@poortac556815 күн бұрын
Yeah, all knock off multicam does too. Thats my only real complaint with this PC. 👍
@DesertTactical15 күн бұрын
Interesting. This is gonna stir up folks who love olight equally as those who hate it. Ive watched a few vids here and there. Im neutral. I say run whatever works for the user and their budget allows. That being said… I’ll pass on this optic. Lol. Kick ass video!
@poortac556815 күн бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I dont hate Olight, because a lot of the hate comes from marketing and trumped up stories. That said, a lot of their design choices really need someone in the “tactical” community to help with. Too many proprietary designs and features that look great on paper, but not in practice. Thanks for watching!
@douglascuvillyed.s821115 күн бұрын
I have moved away from olight products in general, except for carry lights. I'm almost exclusively streamlight, tlr9 and tlr7 because of switches and I have one x300 turbo that I got in a trade. I would give it a try on my recover tactical glock on a Pic mount. Briefcase carry. USB c charging. Great vid as always
@poortac556815 күн бұрын
thanks! Im not the biggest fan of Olight either, but every now and then they make a well thought out design. This one still needs work in my opinion. 👍
@FirearmsAndFitness15 күн бұрын
The optic looks insanely tall to me to be honest. Like maybe not delta point tall but still
@poortac556815 күн бұрын
I agree. Its about as tall as the larger enclosed red dots. Their rational was to help keep the dot in the window under recoil. Which it does, but good grip/recoil management will also solve that issue. Personally, I would rather them make the lens/optic shorter. There is no reason why they couldn’t, since it was a purposeful design choice.
@javedqaisrani298315 күн бұрын
It’s not clone . Really a nice made by POF ( Pakistani Ordinance Factory) . I have Pakistan Made MP5 from 5 year . I am satisfied.
@poortac556815 күн бұрын
I love mine, but it doesnt say H&K on the side = clone
@DeskPop15 күн бұрын
Probably worth noting, I did account for screw/mount errors by using and RMR to picatinny mount for my second "smack test" you can actually see it on the optic. A secure mount won't help with turrets that don't hold zero. I also verified the issue with everyone I know who had one as well, they can't handle being smack on the side at all. We had similar results in our pistol light test and were impressed with their newer ones, unfortunately this optic is doodoo at the moment...
@poortac556815 күн бұрын
I just went and hit it on my tree a bunch of times, on all sides of the optic. It is still perfectly in line with the sights, where it was before hitting. Sounds like either you got lemons or I got lucky 🤷♂️ Ive had multiple Chinese optics not hold zero before, but the second example did. Im gonna assume its a QC thing or the turret design isn’t consistent/reliable.
@DeskPop15 күн бұрын
@@poortac5568 possily, I have about six other reviewers with the same problem I had on both of mine so I stand by it. They’re bound to have a few good apples
@CeeWorld6915 күн бұрын
Looks like I’m RIGHT on time after JUST NOW seeing your comment on Desk Pop 😂😂😆, crazy!
@poortac556815 күн бұрын
🫡 Perfect timing, enjoy the video! Hopefully this review will balance out some of the “unboxing” videos 😉
@DeskPop15 күн бұрын
I also came from there
@CeeWorld6915 күн бұрын
@@DeskPop 😂😂🤣😆😆😆😆😆
@G.W-0115 күн бұрын
Oh no they're evolving into optics now😂 👍🏻
@poortac556815 күн бұрын
yeah, but they still have some issues to resolve with this optic 😂 I think they tried to put too many features on it, instead of making sure the QC and features were properly tested. If they can fix these issues, this would be competitive on the budget market.
@CheeseBurgerXJ16 күн бұрын
I stock ppu m193 which is a hot loading like the Winchester and ADI ss109 since it has crimped and staked primers with a temp stable powder, they both group under 2” but I haven’t been able to get a 5 shot group under 1” yet. I use the hornady black 223 75gr for home defense since it’s the same as their tap t1 loading just cheaper. The aac 75gr is actually the same t1 bullet just with a cannelure and I have some on the way to test against the hornady. I also have a couple hundred federal xf223sp which is a 62gr trophy bonded bear claw that I got from sgammo, he still has some left plus a velocity test of them on his KZread. I found they hit within 1-2” of the adi 62gr with a 16 and 12.5 barrel.
@poortac556816 күн бұрын
good info! thanks for sharing! I love SGAmmo, he has the best ammo prices 👍
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I’ve been debating getting a muzzle device compatible with my xeno hub to put on my 16 inch faxon pencil barrel lightweight rifle. Thought about putting together another one with the faxon gunner barrel. My Rosco k9 12.5 inch barrel should run great with a can. Good video
Sell me your Glock!!
😂
Well, I know for the Glock 43 ETS makes The seven round nine round and 12 round magazines and don’t forget shield z9 with +3 ext!!??
As long as you use brass case ammo, the ETS are ok, if you keep them clean. Ive heard nothing but bad things from a lot of Shield mag users. Maybe their newest gen mags are better now though? 🤷♂️
After using both I can say for certain when it comes to the mounts, yes they are the same.
Cylee is actually a good red dot i have to calfs for 45 degree offsets no problems
I really like their Ghost model for a lpvo riding red dot 👍
Just got mine made the mistake of getting 1.50 instead of the 1.95 cantilever scope mount but got a 1 inch riser mount so im still happy with it because i can see over my LAM. The throw lever gets in the way of my 45 degree offset Reddot and its very stiff. Im impressed with the scope especially with the extras and the details of inspection and QC. Not a fan of the HUGE D LOL. I this is definitely my new go to budget optic didn't see the coupon part but still happy at night it has a slit glare not as bad as another brand i have but im also impressed nice review
yeah, the 1.95 mount is nice to have 👍 This is my favorite “budget” scope company. So far, no other optics in this price range have been as good. Thanks for watching!
But is it NIR compliant or does the paint add more reflectiveness
Not sure, but my spray painted helmet does well under nvgs
change the intro. sorry
I change it up each video 👍
Can you review the Eotech Vu-Du clone they are offering now? Would love to see that in action.
If I can get a company to send one out, I will 👍
I've got a battle belt from them and love it. Doing security work atm and have to get my own was thinking about just a normal battle belt but saw that the battle belt flexes too much so ima send it on one of these.
I highly suggest getting their padded interior belt. Its a lot more comfortable 👍
For anyone having issues with the ear pro being loose on the arc adaptor, use JB weld plastic bonder 2 part epoxy on the ends of the wire and into the holes with a toothpick. Once it’s cured, I wrapped the wire and plastic piece on the ear pro with black electrical tape to keep dirt and water out. Seems pretty sturdy for the time being I’ll update if it doesn’t work out. Costs like 7 bucks at wal mart.
good info!
Ive tried a few knock off mounts and have had good luck, when the gbrs mount came out i didnt want to drop $500 just to find out i didnt like the height but it was fine and ended up getting a real one down the line, I want to try the wilcox eotech mount next since those are like $700-$800
I love these as test/trial options 👍
Get a chronograph and test the ammo ! I didn’t see proof of the velocities matching the box out of your 16” barreled rifle ?
I’ll continue to reload my ammo cheaper and more accurate then anything your buying and shooting out of your 16” barrel that you said in your video gets the velocities the box Advertised is not true period !
Some brands of M193/55gr3200fos out if a 20” barrel and some M855/SS109 ammo brand do get 3050 fps out of a 20” barrel but none have ever came even close to their advertised fps/ velocity out of a 16” barrel or shorter barrels the psi ratings are different between the 223/556 ammo but who’s shooting 600-1000 yards with either to kill somebody besides our military used too not anymore it’s the 277 Fury very high pressure ammo still doesn’t meet the advertised fps out of the new military weapons either !
Beyond seclusion ps video proves that no 18” barrel shoots all 3 versions of AAC 5.56 ammo doesn’t shoot 2700fps 77 gr is 2500 plus and 55 gr isn’t 3175 fps it’s only 2800 plus fps out of a 18” barrel on camera ! I’ll say it again your 16” barrel will never get the advertised velocity because they test out of a 24” barrel for almost all factory ammo that I’ve seen even the reloading manuals for there data is almost always out of a 24” barrel !
What light/ holster are you running in this video?
Streamlight TLR1-HL and Alien Gear Rapid Force (level 3) holster.
Watch the beyond seclusions the chronograph shows that the fps isn’t even close to what’s advertised ! Even out of his 18” barrel ! 20” doesn’t get it done either I’ve chronographed it myself it’s a 24” barrel for both 5.56x45 and 223 respectfully !
Last comment watch beyond seclusions video he shoots through a quarter and a dime at 100yd on camera it’s k.I.s.s. Keep it simple stupid AAC Ammo you’ll never shoot that with Winchester or Federal SS109 / M855 I reload my own ammo and get close to 1moa with the SS109/M855 bullets and I’ve reload for over 35 years
A 20” barrel doesn’t get the adversed fps either the chronograph on 5.56 ammo it’s out of a 24” barrel I’ve seen videos nobody’s getting what the 5.56 ammo says out of a 16”,18”,or20”barrel !
i wouldnt be surprised, M193 is supposed to be out of a 20 inch barrel though. regular 55gr 5.56 is anyones guess
I’ve watch beyond seclusions AAC 5.56 55 and 77 black sabre ammo through a chronograph and it’s out of a 18” barrel and 2565 for and 2819 for respectively so they can’t get what’s advertised in a 16” barrel it’s a 24” barrel also to get 2700-3175 fps so 5.56 and 223 are not mooch different it’s proven !
Yeah the Olight company is joke they lie to their customers never flow though their words to the point I don’t even want to carry their Baton 3 pro that tells me I’d rather walk in the dark because if they don’t stand by their words what else don’t they do
So they have the screw mounted one and the magnetic optic as well ?
The battery charging is magnetic, the optic is mounted to the slide with screws.
Thank you China for the garbage optics.
For 3bills I think I'll stick with holosun for now. Good vid tho, thanks
I agree, unless its going on top of an LPVO 👍 Holosun is my favorite mini red dot manufacturer
Older Must have circle & dot on a shotgun .
The circle is still too small for that. A 60 moa circle would be better on a shotgun.
Parallax is particularly important Not to have when using these on a rifle or slug gun as a piggyback or primary, for the longer shots using unorthodox aiming head positions. BTW I have an awesome mod for your PVS14 that few know about that will greatly increase its usability at longer ranges if your interested in getting details. Its not very expensive either you just need to know where to look
I send back any optic that displays appreciable parallax, the market is full of them
I re checked to make sure, but there is no noticeable parallax with this red dot. The dot doesnt move at all, even near the edge, from what I can tell. Cheaper units normally do. This one seems on par with Holosun from what I can tell (minus the mentioned negatives).
Great review....keep it up.... however you missed a few very important details that the "savvy" experienced look for. Pay attention China PARALLAX (movement of reticle off target with head shift or when reticle approaches the perimeter edges of the glass) And ALUMINUM TYPE ( Ghinaesium, 6061, 7075 and also any treatment designation eg: T6, as well as the type of hard coat anodization of which there are several) No disrespect, just making constructive criticism, Iron sharpens Iron so to speak
no disrespect received lol. They say its 7075 aluminum, but dont mention what kind of anodizing or coating used. I doubt its T6. Its design mitigated the need for more expensive metal though, imo. Parallax is great, no noticeable shift. It looks very similar to my Eotech, I was pretty impressed with I just checked. Most cheaper units I have tested have a noticeable shift near the edge, as you said 👍
I think I mention it in the video, but I received this optic with the intention of only using it in an upcoming budget pistol red dot durability test. I liked it so much, I decided it earned its own review. Cylee stated the screw hole size is the industry standard in order to fit multiple screw types. So know you will most likely not be able to use this on a Zev cut slide, unless your post are slightly larger than spec. It also looks sweet on a MP5 btw.
I have the BULL pro and I'm testing it on my 460 rowland FNX. If it holds up my HK match will get the same treatment. I like how these keep dirt and grime out of the glass when I carry on my belt.
@@mobilegamersunite I still prefer a closed emitter, but this is probably my favorite open design (function wise) 👍
@poortac5568 yeah I might be thinking that over myself. 🤔
All I got from this video was "I just got nightvision and look how great my tubes are"
I guess you need to pay better attention then 😂
Could you list the items on your pc, and where you got it? I was looking to get a tacticon pc but need the other items as well.
The mag pouch is a Condor 6 mag pouch. I wouldn’t bother with the iphone case personally. But I got it on ebay.
Think you just convinced me to pair this with my HWS 512 on my MCX Virtus (12.5” 5.56 and 6.75” 300blk).
its a great combo with an Eotech for sure 👍 I really like it with my 4 dot bdc model
I have always wanted one of these but I could not take Matbock seriously on their price for one From looking at their website and seeing that they sell $900 backpacks I don't see how anyone could take them seriously The Chinesium one I have now works just fine and if I break it or it gets scratched I won't care
Yeah, Id rather buy a couple extra cheap ones 👍
Does anyone have a link
ebay is your best bet, or maybe Aliexpress.
What magazine holster is that? I need one that has a soft back like that so it doesn’t dig in. Thank you!
Safariland double mag pouch 👍 safariland.com/products/model-79-slimline-open-top-magazine-pouch-double-30584/
Nice video, thanks! Between the A20 and the HHC-3C (multi-reticle) of Gowutar, which one would you prefer for a pistol, if you've had a chance to put both through their paces?
I really like their HHC-3C reticle, but Im also a big fanboy of the Eotech reticle. So I am a bit bias. If you like the Eotech donut of death, you will like this reticle. If you prefer a single dot, the other would save you $ 👍
@@poortac5568 Alright, thanks there. I'll look further into this one then. :)
who shoots that far and doesn't use match grade ammo
250 yards is not far. I can make hits on steel at 500 easily with most cheap 55 grain ammo.
It’s a 700$ AR-10 that functions and group’s well. Do you think you’re going to get Daniel Defense/ Knights Armament Q.C.? The complaints are laughable.
Expecting a properly torqued castle nut is not laughable. Thats like being fine with a car company not tightening your wheel lug nuts, and saying “well its not a Lamborghini” 🤦♂️
@@poortac5568you got a sample size of one. Everyone makes a lemon. No one else making Gen-1-2-3 videos are having the same issues. Quite the opposite. Are you expecting a 200 point inspection for harbor freight prices. They have a lifetime warranty for a 700$ rifle. Let them fix it.
They are always out of stock
Sign up for their emails. At least one of their 5.56 selections goes on sale about once a week. Their 77 OTM goes on sale for around $11 about 2 times a month. They usually get new stock every few days as well.
In your experience what is the best budget/poverty tier micro dot or pistol dot that can be used for passive aiming. SIG Romeo 5 and the primary arms micro seem to not be the best from what I've seen and wanted to know what you would recommend
Passive aiming with night vision? On a pistol or rifle? Also, what is your price range of “poverty tier”? The answer may change based on your answer, but the Holosun 407 that PSA carriers would be the lowest price optic that I would trust my life to. Its a basic model without the solar panel. It comes in stock every now and then for under $200 if I remember correctly. palmettostatearmory.com/holosun-3moa-shake-awake-red-dot-pistol-sight-hs407a.html
@@poortac5568 use case would be a piggyback mount on top of a prism scope on a rifle. Poverty tier can be flexible I suppose, I'm trying to find something under $300 but if the quality simply isn't there at that bracket I'm willing to save. Just trying to figure out what I can get away with while still being serviceable. Maybe the wrong mindset. Also thank you for your videos, you've helped me out tremendously as I was trying to get things figured out without breaking the bank.
@@ozarkman291 no problem, thanks for the support 👍 Yeah, sometimes its better to “buy once, cry once”, but Im all for saving money where I can. If you are ok with an open emitter design and are trying to stay under $300, that dealer specific Holosun 407 model from Palmetto State Armory would be my choice. Its probably my favorite budget option, that really has no negatives, other than being an open emitter design. I dont see a practical use for the solar panel anyway, so this model saves $. An RMR type 2 would be more durable (if you dropped the rifle directly on the optic on concrete), but 3 times the price. You could try a Holosun EPS or 509, but both would most likely need an additional adapter plate. My choice personally, would be the 407. Hope that helps!
@@poortac5568 that honestly helps a lot, I'd never seen that exact holosun model, likely because it's dealer specific and I don't go to PSAs website. I'm ok with it being open emitter because one layer of cheap glass is likely better than two for passive. Thanks again for the advice.
@@ozarkman291 anytime!
How much does the surefire weigh
14.5 ounces
I have the 14.5 pencil barrel from faxon. And a yhm turbo k. It weighs 11 oz and my POA And POI is minimal at 50 meters. So far I'm very impressed with the faxon pencil 14.5 barrel running suppressed
@@65philo I like mine as well. It really helps cut down on weight 👍
Have the same plate carrier. It glows like the Las Vegas strip under NODS. It may as well be white instead of Ranger Green.
Yeah, all knock off multicam does too. Thats my only real complaint with this PC. 👍
Interesting. This is gonna stir up folks who love olight equally as those who hate it. Ive watched a few vids here and there. Im neutral. I say run whatever works for the user and their budget allows. That being said… I’ll pass on this optic. Lol. Kick ass video!
Thanks! Yeah, I dont hate Olight, because a lot of the hate comes from marketing and trumped up stories. That said, a lot of their design choices really need someone in the “tactical” community to help with. Too many proprietary designs and features that look great on paper, but not in practice. Thanks for watching!
I have moved away from olight products in general, except for carry lights. I'm almost exclusively streamlight, tlr9 and tlr7 because of switches and I have one x300 turbo that I got in a trade. I would give it a try on my recover tactical glock on a Pic mount. Briefcase carry. USB c charging. Great vid as always
thanks! Im not the biggest fan of Olight either, but every now and then they make a well thought out design. This one still needs work in my opinion. 👍
The optic looks insanely tall to me to be honest. Like maybe not delta point tall but still
I agree. Its about as tall as the larger enclosed red dots. Their rational was to help keep the dot in the window under recoil. Which it does, but good grip/recoil management will also solve that issue. Personally, I would rather them make the lens/optic shorter. There is no reason why they couldn’t, since it was a purposeful design choice.
It’s not clone . Really a nice made by POF ( Pakistani Ordinance Factory) . I have Pakistan Made MP5 from 5 year . I am satisfied.
I love mine, but it doesnt say H&K on the side = clone
Probably worth noting, I did account for screw/mount errors by using and RMR to picatinny mount for my second "smack test" you can actually see it on the optic. A secure mount won't help with turrets that don't hold zero. I also verified the issue with everyone I know who had one as well, they can't handle being smack on the side at all. We had similar results in our pistol light test and were impressed with their newer ones, unfortunately this optic is doodoo at the moment...
I just went and hit it on my tree a bunch of times, on all sides of the optic. It is still perfectly in line with the sights, where it was before hitting. Sounds like either you got lemons or I got lucky 🤷♂️ Ive had multiple Chinese optics not hold zero before, but the second example did. Im gonna assume its a QC thing or the turret design isn’t consistent/reliable.
@@poortac5568 possily, I have about six other reviewers with the same problem I had on both of mine so I stand by it. They’re bound to have a few good apples
Looks like I’m RIGHT on time after JUST NOW seeing your comment on Desk Pop 😂😂😆, crazy!
🫡 Perfect timing, enjoy the video! Hopefully this review will balance out some of the “unboxing” videos 😉
I also came from there
@@DeskPop 😂😂🤣😆😆😆😆😆
Oh no they're evolving into optics now😂 👍🏻
yeah, but they still have some issues to resolve with this optic 😂 I think they tried to put too many features on it, instead of making sure the QC and features were properly tested. If they can fix these issues, this would be competitive on the budget market.
I stock ppu m193 which is a hot loading like the Winchester and ADI ss109 since it has crimped and staked primers with a temp stable powder, they both group under 2” but I haven’t been able to get a 5 shot group under 1” yet. I use the hornady black 223 75gr for home defense since it’s the same as their tap t1 loading just cheaper. The aac 75gr is actually the same t1 bullet just with a cannelure and I have some on the way to test against the hornady. I also have a couple hundred federal xf223sp which is a 62gr trophy bonded bear claw that I got from sgammo, he still has some left plus a velocity test of them on his KZread. I found they hit within 1-2” of the adi 62gr with a 16 and 12.5 barrel.
good info! thanks for sharing! I love SGAmmo, he has the best ammo prices 👍