If I choose to hold over, what is an average parallax setting, or is that still dialed each time?
@CopperStarPrecisionСағат бұрын
All scopes are different, but in general I'll parallax for the middle target and keep my magnification low to increase depth of field. Something in the 12x-16x range should allow for good depth of field while still being able to use the reticle hashmarks to make holds.
@CyclopsJoeVideos3 сағат бұрын
Hey man , shoot me an email . You can find it on my about section
@danayers10424 сағат бұрын
Good plan and nice setup. Does it allow enough alignment adjustment in the x,y,z to allow measurement of eye box size? That would be useful info.
@CopperStarPrecisionСағат бұрын
There is probably a way to measure that. Good suggestion. I will look into it.
@crtxdistortion6576 сағат бұрын
Awesome! Not in the market for a new scope right now, but I'll watch! 👍
@NHRCCrawl14 сағат бұрын
Different approach than most other suggestions as my focus would be on specific scope classes. Like is there something thats comparable to the og MATCH PRO for base class but includes .2 mil hash marks instead of the normal .5 and such like that.
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
Well, you're in luck because the first two scopes I will be reviewing are the OG Match Pro and a scope that I might replace it with that has 0.2 MIL hash marks. Stay tuned!
@TheZrpilot15 сағат бұрын
tracking. Some way to compare clarity, light gathering, paralax... I think tracking and paralax effects would be tops on my list
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
I definitely will be testing both of those
@wolfgangvonmueller689515 сағат бұрын
Brilliant. And your effort is appreciated.
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@Rico11b16 сағат бұрын
You need a geared head on your tripod. That way you can dial windage and elevation to get the scope perfect and level. It also needs to be stable enough that you can turn the turrets and the scope or base does NOT move at all. That awesome camera should REALLY help to give a great image.
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
Absolutely. I will be using a geared head, the ballhead was just for demonstration.
@acheeseburger736716 сағат бұрын
Rig looks like something a cartoon villain would use to shrink people or something.
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
Honey I Shrunk My Group Size!
@KoryReeves17 сағат бұрын
One thing that is important to me, that I don’t think I’ve ever seen a reviewer mention, is the ability to distinguish between the target and a noisy background whenever the parallax is not dialed perfectly. In other words, if I’m dialed for a 40 yard target and transition to a 95 yard target, could I still take the shot without having to adjust parallax. Not sure exactly how to measure that, but it is a big issue for competitive shooting and I’ve never seen any reviewer address it.
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
Definitely something I want to test. Depth of Field is going to be very magnification dependent, but I'm sure the different optical configurations used by different scopes will lend to better or worse performance.
@scottcottontx17 сағат бұрын
Main thing I would be interested in seeing is the reticle at 12x vs 18x. Some reticles look great on the manufacturers website but are too fine at 12x to make out the sub tensions. Other's are too chunky at higher magnification for shooting a 1/4" KYL at 75 yards. Glass quality and box tests are a given, but I don't see many people showing what the reticle looks like at the magnifications we use for competitions.
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
Great points. Most tests will be focused on the more real-world competition magnification ranges.
@ivanphipps723719 сағат бұрын
What bag stop / barricade stop are you using?
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
Grey Ops Bag Stop in the "shorty" configuration. Shorty is great for the CZ, but you may want the standard length for ACIS pattern mags like in the Vudoo or RimX
@ChrisKinsman19 сағат бұрын
Parallax at 25 and under. Fov at min magnification. Fov at max and maybe a few in between. Mirage at min/max. Depth of field at min and max and midway between. Dof thinking about how sensitive parallax is between a 75 and 150 target for example. I.e how parallax free could you stay on a troop line with a 100yd spread
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
Great ideas! Mirage will be a challenge as it is more weather dependent, but depth of field/parallax is something that is definitely missing from most reviews.
@RF-Canuck19 сағат бұрын
You have really upped the anti on scope reviews if this works! I have really enjoyed your other videos! Looking forward to watching the future reviews!
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
Awesome, thank you! I'm trying to get a more objective evaluation of scope performance and I think I have some good ideas to test them.
@FishOn120 сағат бұрын
Brilliant idea!
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
Glad you think so!
@tonytillman395320 сағат бұрын
I like the thought you have put into this, the "target" down range is an optical target. Maybe the color "mirage" around the reticle and at the edge of the scope, Maybe how well it tracks at 100 yds? Not just elevation but also windage.
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
Great point. I was definitely thinking of putting a color checker/color calibration chart out at distance.
@FishOn120 сағат бұрын
Looking forward to it.
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
It will take some time to get set up, but scope videos should be out next month! Stay tuned!
@13mrex20 сағат бұрын
Hi, I recently subscribed to your channel and love your work. Thank you for asking - I would love to see scope reviews that actually show that you can see the bu!!et hole on a paper target. (Not with a go pro or a sporting scope ) I purchased some scopes before prior to doing YT research and took advice from the shop. As an example a 3-9x40 is good enough for 100y with a 22lr. However, on a white piece of paper I actually can not see the small hole in the paper. I then had to get spotting scope just to see where I was in relation to the bullseye. Eventually I would like to upgrade all of mine. I actually just did 1 of them and went with a zerotech 4.5-18x40 and I can finally see the holes on the paper target. Not great but good enough on a 100. So in short every scope review shows that you can plink a metal target with this sort of scope and that sort of rifle but no one ever then shows if you (can’t hear the impact (on metal) can you see the hole to see where on the target you ended up. I understand past 200 yards this may be an issue unless you have $2000 scope maybe but I guess reviews like you are about to do would confirm this in your findings. Peace and well done again for an awesome channel. From the land down under 👍
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
Great points. Seeing impacts on paper through the scope also makes zeroing much easier. I'll add that to the list!
@CyclopsJoeVideos21 сағат бұрын
Hey man cool setup . Man if you can give me a shout .
@CopperStarPrecision14 сағат бұрын
I'll definitely give you a shout out. No one does the turret torture test like you do!
@precisionmatchtimerКүн бұрын
I like this idea for practice. Might have to give it a try.
@biagiocozza8875Күн бұрын
Great shooting. Thank you for the video, helps me a lot since I’m a NRL, PRS rookie. Not always sure when to dial, and when to hold over. Great looking rifle, what chassis are you running?
@CopperStarPrecisionКүн бұрын
Thanks! For new competitors I always recommend dialing for each target, but learning holdovers will be important for getting higher scores. I just released a holdover practice target so be sure to check out that video. I'm running the Grey Birch chassis for the CZ 457
@1954rushingКүн бұрын
Thanks so much for the custom targets and explaining how it works. This will be a great training tool! BTW I get so much information from watching your videos. Thanks again.
@CopperStarPrecisionКүн бұрын
You're very welcome!
@FishOn1Күн бұрын
When I’m in a low kneeling position like you at 9:30, I get a lot of heartbeat bounce. How do you overcome that?
@CopperStarPrecisionКүн бұрын
Hard to say. The first thing I might try is to change the position of where the buttstock meets your shoulder pocket. With the buttstock higher you're going to have less contact with your chest which might help with the heartbeat bounce. You may have to change or adjust your cheek weld and/or length of pull so that you can still see through the scope.
@wstcstladКүн бұрын
Amazon Canada... for all us northerners... $73CAD... so about $55 USD.... great tool, but not worth the $ / value compared to other tools Thanks for the info... for $15 USD = for sure.
@CopperStarPrecisionКүн бұрын
Agreed
@albertcapizzo1332Күн бұрын
This really is brilliant!!
@CopperStarPrecisionКүн бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@xdivineHART2 күн бұрын
Wwhere is this at? Ben Avery? I did hear the RO mention Ben Avery, so I'm guessing this isn't Ben Avery
@CopperStarPrecision2 күн бұрын
This match was at Phoenix Rod and Gun Club, but there are also matches at Ben Avery and Rio Salado Sportsman's Club.
@xdivineHARTКүн бұрын
@@CopperStarPrecision I wish I started competition when I was still in AZ
@Jc582c2 күн бұрын
Are you in ouray Colorado? Saw your logo on a front license plate
@CopperStarPrecision2 күн бұрын
Nope. My logo is the state flag of Arizona so sounds like a fellow statesman is visiting.
@Jc582c2 күн бұрын
Oh I’m an idiot. I was so excited. I was like babe he’s here. He’s from Arizona too 😂
@CopperStarPrecision2 күн бұрын
Haha no worries, nice to know I have a fan club!
@dlmbharris2 күн бұрын
That's a great idea for training or challenges.
@CopperStarPrecisionКүн бұрын
Thanks!
@kentsipes37102 күн бұрын
Being new to the game, I'm always looking for better ways to improve. This is freaking awesome exercise. Thanks for putting it out there.
@CopperStarPrecision2 күн бұрын
Happy to help!
@skipsmith96923 күн бұрын
If you measure this and find that the difference does make a difference in accuracy do you then batch the ammo accordingly? Then if so would you make the changes with bolt shims verses barrel shims for a quicker fix? I have heard this for years and I have even when loading for high power competition we would weigh each bullet, case, etc. to all match our desired needs. We did see a difference in our 600 yard shots…not so much on 300 in.
@CopperStarPrecisionКүн бұрын
Weight sorting is difficult with rimfire since you don't know if the source of the discrepancy is due to the case, projectile, powder, or priming compound so I don't bother. For competition I try to stick to the match grade ammo (Lapua Center-X, Midas+, SK Rifle Match, Eley Match, Eley Tenex) which has shown to have very consistent rim thickness across a box/brick/case. I do not yet sort by rim thickness, but might start doing so for my benchrest rifle, not my PRS/NRL22 rifles. Where I do see some potential (I am still testing and will release videos when I have conclusive findings) is to match the headspace to the rim thickness of the particular brand of ammo that you intend to use for competitions. Bolt shims decrease headspace and Barrel shims increase headspace. With my headspace of 43-43.5 thousandths it is well suited to the Lapua/SK brands. I see some marginal benefit to adding shims to get the headspace closer to 39-40 thousandths when using Eley ammo (still testing this out).
@williamleonard89983 күн бұрын
Nice job
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@douglaskohls31633 күн бұрын
Would ammo velocity change holds?
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
Short answer, no. Long answer, since all the shots are at 50 yards then no matter what velocity your ammo is at they should all be arriving at the target at around the same time. If you have a good 50 yard zero and decently consistent ammo the target will work as intended. For example, the 0.5 MIL hold, if you dial 0.5 MIL up from your zero and shoot the target, you would expect your impact to be 0.9 inches high from your aim point (50 yards = 1800 inches / 1000 = 1.8 inches x 0.5 MRAD = 0.9 inches). The center of the first (lowest) bullseye is set at 0.9 inches above the aim point. So keeping your 50 yard zero and holding over the 0.5 MIL should have the same effect and your impact should be somewhere in that first bullseye. What different velocity will impact is your ballistic solutions/DOPE for targets at different distances. So for a 100 yard target your hold or dial might be 1.8 MILS where mine might be 1.7 if we are using ammo with different velocities.
@bfox873 күн бұрын
Good challenge im currently using moa tho until i can get a mill scope
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
I just uploaded a MOA version on Patreon. Go check it out!
@bfox873 күн бұрын
@CopperStarPrecision got it thanks ill have to try this with my new setup 😀
@coreyghayes3 күн бұрын
Love this idea. Ready for my next practice session.
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
Thanks! Don't forget to report back how you did!
@KoryReeves3 күн бұрын
Brilliant idea! I know what I'll be doing at my next trip to the range.
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
Glad you like it! Don't forget to report back how you do!
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
Can you beat my score? NOW AVAILABLE IN MOA AND MRAD VERSIONS: Download your target here: www.patreon.com/CopperStarPrecision
@Jc582c2 күн бұрын
Are you in ouray Colorado right now?
@CopperStarPrecision2 күн бұрын
Nope
@paulklescht10293 күн бұрын
Looks like its time to sacrifice some match ammo
@stevemiller17083 күн бұрын
I could not find your website to download the targets. could you please post the link. thanks
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
Link is in the description and pinned comment. www.patreon.com/CopperStarPrecision
@CyclopsJoeVideos3 күн бұрын
Man that is some Awesome Stuff!!
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
Thanks! Almost as awesome as your Eley Ultra video hahaha!
@Cobrapaw19883 күн бұрын
I see a rematch in the near future 😁. Shots on paper are great training. Thanks Cyrus!
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
Paper never lies haha
@damingrail36553 күн бұрын
Love it will have to give this a try. Thanks. Very good practice for hold overs
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
You're welcome!
@Nick--_3 күн бұрын
It's not hard to measure and figure it out the correct distance, but putting "50 Yards" on the PDF would be an improvement. Cool idea. I'm definitely going to try it!
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
That's a great idea, I'll have to add it in the next version.
@AlexandStuff3 күн бұрын
This is brilliant! I really need this as I never trust holding over during a COF, I always dial.
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
Thanks! I always try to dial if there is time to do so, but some stages have so much movement that learning to use holdovers is a must if you don't want to time out. Happy practicing!
@FieroGTXX3 күн бұрын
10 Shots 10 Positions 5 Holds ( Unique each shot) 90 Sec Par time off of a pyramid or ladder going for 80%. Yeah copper star. I'm gonna run. That and post. Should be fun.
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
That's a tall order, but a great drill to run with this target!
@R53083 күн бұрын
Looks like fun, I'll have to try it this weekend... but I'm a MOA guy it just "clicks" for me.
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
I'll work on putting together a MOA version, but for now you can multiply the holds by 3.43775 to convert MRAD to MOA.
@FieroGTXX3 күн бұрын
More lines! MOA STAND TOGETHER!! lolz
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
MOA Target now available on Patreon!
@CopperStarPrecision3 күн бұрын
MOA Target now available on Patreon!
@greghollis90064 күн бұрын
Just got to shoot this C.O.F. today. My 2nd match ever and the movement was a challenge for sure. I did manage to nearly double my score from my 1st match and probably would have if I hadn't stepped the bed on the tower and barrel stage.
@CopperStarPrecision4 күн бұрын
Awesome to hear! I also shot this COF today and it did NOT go well haha. Video will be out soon so you can watch my epic fails.
@greghollis90065 күн бұрын
Would it be quicker to use an arcade mounted bag plate so you are moving rifle and bag as 1?
@CopperStarPrecision4 күн бұрын
It might be, but you're going to want the bag with the wedge side down for the pyramid which generally won't be as stable as a bag on it's side on the barrel.
@the_madhatter84926 күн бұрын
I blame the slope for those misses on stage 4 😂
@CopperStarPrecision4 күн бұрын
Very true! It was a very wobbly position lol.
@andybob91326 күн бұрын
I really liked your match footage through the scope. Thank you 👍👍
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If I choose to hold over, what is an average parallax setting, or is that still dialed each time?
All scopes are different, but in general I'll parallax for the middle target and keep my magnification low to increase depth of field. Something in the 12x-16x range should allow for good depth of field while still being able to use the reticle hashmarks to make holds.
Hey man , shoot me an email . You can find it on my about section
Good plan and nice setup. Does it allow enough alignment adjustment in the x,y,z to allow measurement of eye box size? That would be useful info.
There is probably a way to measure that. Good suggestion. I will look into it.
Awesome! Not in the market for a new scope right now, but I'll watch! 👍
Different approach than most other suggestions as my focus would be on specific scope classes. Like is there something thats comparable to the og MATCH PRO for base class but includes .2 mil hash marks instead of the normal .5 and such like that.
Well, you're in luck because the first two scopes I will be reviewing are the OG Match Pro and a scope that I might replace it with that has 0.2 MIL hash marks. Stay tuned!
tracking. Some way to compare clarity, light gathering, paralax... I think tracking and paralax effects would be tops on my list
I definitely will be testing both of those
Brilliant. And your effort is appreciated.
Thanks!
You need a geared head on your tripod. That way you can dial windage and elevation to get the scope perfect and level. It also needs to be stable enough that you can turn the turrets and the scope or base does NOT move at all. That awesome camera should REALLY help to give a great image.
Absolutely. I will be using a geared head, the ballhead was just for demonstration.
Rig looks like something a cartoon villain would use to shrink people or something.
Honey I Shrunk My Group Size!
One thing that is important to me, that I don’t think I’ve ever seen a reviewer mention, is the ability to distinguish between the target and a noisy background whenever the parallax is not dialed perfectly. In other words, if I’m dialed for a 40 yard target and transition to a 95 yard target, could I still take the shot without having to adjust parallax. Not sure exactly how to measure that, but it is a big issue for competitive shooting and I’ve never seen any reviewer address it.
Definitely something I want to test. Depth of Field is going to be very magnification dependent, but I'm sure the different optical configurations used by different scopes will lend to better or worse performance.
Main thing I would be interested in seeing is the reticle at 12x vs 18x. Some reticles look great on the manufacturers website but are too fine at 12x to make out the sub tensions. Other's are too chunky at higher magnification for shooting a 1/4" KYL at 75 yards. Glass quality and box tests are a given, but I don't see many people showing what the reticle looks like at the magnifications we use for competitions.
Great points. Most tests will be focused on the more real-world competition magnification ranges.
What bag stop / barricade stop are you using?
Grey Ops Bag Stop in the "shorty" configuration. Shorty is great for the CZ, but you may want the standard length for ACIS pattern mags like in the Vudoo or RimX
Parallax at 25 and under. Fov at min magnification. Fov at max and maybe a few in between. Mirage at min/max. Depth of field at min and max and midway between. Dof thinking about how sensitive parallax is between a 75 and 150 target for example. I.e how parallax free could you stay on a troop line with a 100yd spread
Great ideas! Mirage will be a challenge as it is more weather dependent, but depth of field/parallax is something that is definitely missing from most reviews.
You have really upped the anti on scope reviews if this works! I have really enjoyed your other videos! Looking forward to watching the future reviews!
Awesome, thank you! I'm trying to get a more objective evaluation of scope performance and I think I have some good ideas to test them.
Brilliant idea!
Glad you think so!
I like the thought you have put into this, the "target" down range is an optical target. Maybe the color "mirage" around the reticle and at the edge of the scope, Maybe how well it tracks at 100 yds? Not just elevation but also windage.
Great point. I was definitely thinking of putting a color checker/color calibration chart out at distance.
Looking forward to it.
It will take some time to get set up, but scope videos should be out next month! Stay tuned!
Hi, I recently subscribed to your channel and love your work. Thank you for asking - I would love to see scope reviews that actually show that you can see the bu!!et hole on a paper target. (Not with a go pro or a sporting scope ) I purchased some scopes before prior to doing YT research and took advice from the shop. As an example a 3-9x40 is good enough for 100y with a 22lr. However, on a white piece of paper I actually can not see the small hole in the paper. I then had to get spotting scope just to see where I was in relation to the bullseye. Eventually I would like to upgrade all of mine. I actually just did 1 of them and went with a zerotech 4.5-18x40 and I can finally see the holes on the paper target. Not great but good enough on a 100. So in short every scope review shows that you can plink a metal target with this sort of scope and that sort of rifle but no one ever then shows if you (can’t hear the impact (on metal) can you see the hole to see where on the target you ended up. I understand past 200 yards this may be an issue unless you have $2000 scope maybe but I guess reviews like you are about to do would confirm this in your findings. Peace and well done again for an awesome channel. From the land down under 👍
Great points. Seeing impacts on paper through the scope also makes zeroing much easier. I'll add that to the list!
Hey man cool setup . Man if you can give me a shout .
I'll definitely give you a shout out. No one does the turret torture test like you do!
I like this idea for practice. Might have to give it a try.
Great shooting. Thank you for the video, helps me a lot since I’m a NRL, PRS rookie. Not always sure when to dial, and when to hold over. Great looking rifle, what chassis are you running?
Thanks! For new competitors I always recommend dialing for each target, but learning holdovers will be important for getting higher scores. I just released a holdover practice target so be sure to check out that video. I'm running the Grey Birch chassis for the CZ 457
Thanks so much for the custom targets and explaining how it works. This will be a great training tool! BTW I get so much information from watching your videos. Thanks again.
You're very welcome!
When I’m in a low kneeling position like you at 9:30, I get a lot of heartbeat bounce. How do you overcome that?
Hard to say. The first thing I might try is to change the position of where the buttstock meets your shoulder pocket. With the buttstock higher you're going to have less contact with your chest which might help with the heartbeat bounce. You may have to change or adjust your cheek weld and/or length of pull so that you can still see through the scope.
Amazon Canada... for all us northerners... $73CAD... so about $55 USD.... great tool, but not worth the $ / value compared to other tools Thanks for the info... for $15 USD = for sure.
Agreed
This really is brilliant!!
Glad to hear it!
Wwhere is this at? Ben Avery? I did hear the RO mention Ben Avery, so I'm guessing this isn't Ben Avery
This match was at Phoenix Rod and Gun Club, but there are also matches at Ben Avery and Rio Salado Sportsman's Club.
@@CopperStarPrecision I wish I started competition when I was still in AZ
Are you in ouray Colorado? Saw your logo on a front license plate
Nope. My logo is the state flag of Arizona so sounds like a fellow statesman is visiting.
Oh I’m an idiot. I was so excited. I was like babe he’s here. He’s from Arizona too 😂
Haha no worries, nice to know I have a fan club!
That's a great idea for training or challenges.
Thanks!
Being new to the game, I'm always looking for better ways to improve. This is freaking awesome exercise. Thanks for putting it out there.
Happy to help!
If you measure this and find that the difference does make a difference in accuracy do you then batch the ammo accordingly? Then if so would you make the changes with bolt shims verses barrel shims for a quicker fix? I have heard this for years and I have even when loading for high power competition we would weigh each bullet, case, etc. to all match our desired needs. We did see a difference in our 600 yard shots…not so much on 300 in.
Weight sorting is difficult with rimfire since you don't know if the source of the discrepancy is due to the case, projectile, powder, or priming compound so I don't bother. For competition I try to stick to the match grade ammo (Lapua Center-X, Midas+, SK Rifle Match, Eley Match, Eley Tenex) which has shown to have very consistent rim thickness across a box/brick/case. I do not yet sort by rim thickness, but might start doing so for my benchrest rifle, not my PRS/NRL22 rifles. Where I do see some potential (I am still testing and will release videos when I have conclusive findings) is to match the headspace to the rim thickness of the particular brand of ammo that you intend to use for competitions. Bolt shims decrease headspace and Barrel shims increase headspace. With my headspace of 43-43.5 thousandths it is well suited to the Lapua/SK brands. I see some marginal benefit to adding shims to get the headspace closer to 39-40 thousandths when using Eley ammo (still testing this out).
Nice job
Thanks!
Would ammo velocity change holds?
Short answer, no. Long answer, since all the shots are at 50 yards then no matter what velocity your ammo is at they should all be arriving at the target at around the same time. If you have a good 50 yard zero and decently consistent ammo the target will work as intended. For example, the 0.5 MIL hold, if you dial 0.5 MIL up from your zero and shoot the target, you would expect your impact to be 0.9 inches high from your aim point (50 yards = 1800 inches / 1000 = 1.8 inches x 0.5 MRAD = 0.9 inches). The center of the first (lowest) bullseye is set at 0.9 inches above the aim point. So keeping your 50 yard zero and holding over the 0.5 MIL should have the same effect and your impact should be somewhere in that first bullseye. What different velocity will impact is your ballistic solutions/DOPE for targets at different distances. So for a 100 yard target your hold or dial might be 1.8 MILS where mine might be 1.7 if we are using ammo with different velocities.
Good challenge im currently using moa tho until i can get a mill scope
I just uploaded a MOA version on Patreon. Go check it out!
@CopperStarPrecision got it thanks ill have to try this with my new setup 😀
Love this idea. Ready for my next practice session.
Thanks! Don't forget to report back how you did!
Brilliant idea! I know what I'll be doing at my next trip to the range.
Glad you like it! Don't forget to report back how you do!
Can you beat my score? NOW AVAILABLE IN MOA AND MRAD VERSIONS: Download your target here: www.patreon.com/CopperStarPrecision
Are you in ouray Colorado right now?
Nope
Looks like its time to sacrifice some match ammo
I could not find your website to download the targets. could you please post the link. thanks
Link is in the description and pinned comment. www.patreon.com/CopperStarPrecision
Man that is some Awesome Stuff!!
Thanks! Almost as awesome as your Eley Ultra video hahaha!
I see a rematch in the near future 😁. Shots on paper are great training. Thanks Cyrus!
Paper never lies haha
Love it will have to give this a try. Thanks. Very good practice for hold overs
You're welcome!
It's not hard to measure and figure it out the correct distance, but putting "50 Yards" on the PDF would be an improvement. Cool idea. I'm definitely going to try it!
That's a great idea, I'll have to add it in the next version.
This is brilliant! I really need this as I never trust holding over during a COF, I always dial.
Thanks! I always try to dial if there is time to do so, but some stages have so much movement that learning to use holdovers is a must if you don't want to time out. Happy practicing!
10 Shots 10 Positions 5 Holds ( Unique each shot) 90 Sec Par time off of a pyramid or ladder going for 80%. Yeah copper star. I'm gonna run. That and post. Should be fun.
That's a tall order, but a great drill to run with this target!
Looks like fun, I'll have to try it this weekend... but I'm a MOA guy it just "clicks" for me.
I'll work on putting together a MOA version, but for now you can multiply the holds by 3.43775 to convert MRAD to MOA.
More lines! MOA STAND TOGETHER!! lolz
MOA Target now available on Patreon!
MOA Target now available on Patreon!
Just got to shoot this C.O.F. today. My 2nd match ever and the movement was a challenge for sure. I did manage to nearly double my score from my 1st match and probably would have if I hadn't stepped the bed on the tower and barrel stage.
Awesome to hear! I also shot this COF today and it did NOT go well haha. Video will be out soon so you can watch my epic fails.
Would it be quicker to use an arcade mounted bag plate so you are moving rifle and bag as 1?
It might be, but you're going to want the bag with the wedge side down for the pyramid which generally won't be as stable as a bag on it's side on the barrel.
I blame the slope for those misses on stage 4 😂
Very true! It was a very wobbly position lol.
I really liked your match footage through the scope. Thank you 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it!