I played around on the mix station free version last night. Where's the send on faders? But I did figure it out how to assign channels to a bus which wasn't a simple task. Why not a simple button on every channel like on analog? Whatever I did on the m32 mix app, also shows on m8x station I have those channels assigned to the busses. It dawned on me. I should of been building the show straight off my m32 live desk, save, export to thumb drive then import it to the m32c. I'm still confused with routing in digital world, such as pre post eq, faders. And I've been configuring this show in the dark with no audio at the moment. I'm waiting on a shock proof rack that is supposed to be delivered today. ✌️ Where do you live? Are you in India?
@dmult232013 сағат бұрын
What is the name of your church
@danielkharrat13 сағат бұрын
Christ Evangelical Baptist Church - Fanar
@fonesrphunny724217 сағат бұрын
Great ... we just improved our sound yesterday, by looking at the RTA from our measuring mic. Guess I'll make a backup and give this process a shot. Seems more or less straight forward, to someone who's just figuring out all the technical details of setting up a music room
@davebrownentertainment719123 сағат бұрын
Not going lower than 1ms for attack time is very useful to know (I already understand how gates work). Weird artifact noises are evil. Lol.
@FreeKeenanКүн бұрын
How do you assign subgroups with the m32 app?
@OswaldPHКүн бұрын
Nice concept!
@FreeKeenanКүн бұрын
Daniel, how do you safely shut down the m32c?
@danielkharratКүн бұрын
Lock it and then turn ut off
@FreeKeenanКүн бұрын
Lock it from where?
@danielkharratКүн бұрын
@FreeKeenan either in the app or on the mixer if you press the big knob in the front and twist it all the way to the right you will see on the screen the option to lock the mixer and the screen becomes red
@FreeKeenanКүн бұрын
I actually figured out to go into settings on the iPad, save scenes, and that works. Seems like the lock setting is for locking things down when leaving the iPad or unit left unattended. I just watched your video on, peg, vs. get, vs. true eq. Great video. Now how the heck do you assign a group of drums, keys vocals to a subgroup off the iPad? I can assign from the desk, but this is the m32c. This is painful for the analog kid. 😢
@danielkharratКүн бұрын
@FreeKeenan use mixing station it's really easy to do with mixing station here's a video kzread.info/dash/bejne/jKGJzbaefZbLmco.html
@diiegopc2 күн бұрын
20:40 all above the case
@edwinoheneadu6232 күн бұрын
Can you please do a video on the effects of M32, and how to route the inserts
@dwokkel95972 күн бұрын
Something I just can't figure out is what the actual difference between de stereo and dual function is. Can you explain that to me? :)
@danielkharrat2 күн бұрын
You use the stereo effect on a stereo channel or bus (2 linked channels or busses) The dual is used as 2 mono effects on 2 different channels or busses So it's like having 2 independent effects but they are in the same slot instead of taking up 2 slots
@NightFeverVar2 күн бұрын
Great video a question can we put a snippet on a button assign button ex 8
@danielkharrat2 күн бұрын
Yes
@NightFeverVar2 күн бұрын
@@danielkharrat thank you
@Lucaskulaz2 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@JQualitymusic3 күн бұрын
Can I use AES/ EBU output to a wordclock (Black Lion Micro MK III)?
@willmcconnell60083 күн бұрын
I wish I found this sooner, thank you so much
@SuperMBARutgers20133 күн бұрын
The dimming explanation was eh...still not clear. It seems the talkback doesn't have the preamp gain(ability) of the regular channel. So, does the dim, also reduce the level of those busses it's being sent to? Or is it only dimming in the headphone/mixing monitor ? Ultimately, if the talkback input doesn't have enough gain to be louder than the band playing, they won't hear you talk.
@JQualitymusic5 күн бұрын
Can I use AES of a Midas M32 to a Micro Clock MKIII? Currently I use the USB expansion card to my computer. I’m afraid if I switch it out with a ADAT expansion card for wordclock I won’t have a way to have the Midas connect back to the computer via usb.
@JQualitymusic5 күн бұрын
How do you connect a World Clock to a Midas M32?
@ugonnandubueze56035 күн бұрын
Thank you
@CrisKanahuati6 күн бұрын
what i understand is that those files that we can download are just drag and drop? with the same level?
@danielkharrat6 күн бұрын
Yes
@maduranga2586 күн бұрын
May I know the name of the song please?
@danielkharrat6 күн бұрын
قد مات في الصليب
@davebell16336 күн бұрын
Excellent! Clear and concise 👍
@jeremiahvictor47876 күн бұрын
Can you show us how to set up Reaper for livestream mix?
@danielkharrat6 күн бұрын
Yes watch this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZmSO1ZSJgMS-dtI.html
@yonimushermusic7 күн бұрын
Wow! Generally these videos cover the exact same thing in the exact same way and frankly I just don't get anything new, but you genuinely helped me to understand My X32 compressor massively.
@danielkharrat7 күн бұрын
if the level is getting too loud and it's clipping inside the gate plugin instead of doing wet +5 and dry 0 you can keep the wet slider at 0db and the dry slider at -5db and it will have the same effect but the overall level will be 5db lower so you can compensate for these 5db with a clipper plugin after the gate (threshold -6, ceiling -1)
@jonhmarke.delute36127 күн бұрын
👌🥰
@djbassick7 күн бұрын
Why would you not want to crowd mics on when the pastor is there?
@danielkharrat7 күн бұрын
Because the people rarely ever say anything during the sermon and since the mics are in the room close to the people if someone sneezes or coughs or a baby cries... i find things like these to be very distracting If you're in a pentecostal church and the people interact a lot with the pastor during the sermon then you would leave the crowd mics on
@djbassick7 күн бұрын
@@danielkharrat fair enough, thanks for the video! Without the mics it makes me feel disconnected from whats going on in the room.
@djbassick7 күн бұрын
@@danielkharrat Have you thought about a way to incorporate post fader from FOH yet?
@danielkharrat7 күн бұрын
@djbassick sure, ideally you'd have someone riding the faders of the crowd mics throughout the service
@danielkharrat7 күн бұрын
@@djbassick incorporate a post fader what?
@TimmyP19558 күн бұрын
Sorry to be a dolt, but I cannot find anything in the MS manual on how to make use of the downloaded .msz file. Please help.
@danielkharrat8 күн бұрын
I showed you how to import the file at the end of the video
@TimmyP19558 күн бұрын
@@danielkharrat Thank you. DOH! as we yanks like to say. I got excited and did not watch to the end. Won't do that again :-)
@winniethepooh99988 күн бұрын
Great! ps. Did you try M32c - Dante and LiveProfessor? :)
@danielkharrat8 күн бұрын
No
@FreeKeenan9 күн бұрын
That's a relief to know. The c should be delivered here this Thursday/tomorrow. I needed something super compact for these ridiculous micro bars. I use aes ebu out from the DL32 into the venue 360. I'll keep you posted on the outcome.
@FreeKeenan10 күн бұрын
I noticed the m32c doesn't have aes ebu out. But the stagebox has it. Will I be able to use the aes ebu out from the digital stage since the m32c rack doesn't have it?
@danielkharrat9 күн бұрын
Yes It also doesn't have 1/4 inch aux ins and outs but you can use your stagebox i/o for auxes It's the same mixer If it something shows in the control app then it works You know on the full size m32 you have an xlr tab in the routing menu to assign the local xlr outputs on the back of the mixer to something else, but that tab is empty for the m32c because it doesn't have any local xlr outs So to answer your question, yes you can use the aes/ebu on the stagebox box and you can assign a signal to it from the aux out page
@EqDior10 күн бұрын
This is very creative. Awesome job!!
@davebrownentertainment719110 күн бұрын
And here I am using 2 iPads, a 17 inch laptop, 22 inch touch screen with mini PC attached to it, and an X-Touch. Lol.
@gracenotes537910 күн бұрын
It's total loop gain that we need to control to avoid feedback. That includes microphone transducer gain, pre-amp gain, fader and EQ gains, power amplifier gain, speaker transducer gain and acoustic path gain (loss) from speaker cone to microphone diaphragm. Reducing *any* of these gains will mitigate feedback, but there is no reason to have excessive gain in the path from the mixer to the speaker voice coils, so I take your point and I like your method.
@tragus4410 күн бұрын
Brilliant explanation!!
@ChristianP_JC10 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@quameowusu10 күн бұрын
Please how can I set a talkback mic for our MD to talk to the instrumentalis through our behringer P16 thank you
@favournjoku302411 күн бұрын
Thank you for the very informative video. I have a question. how do you connect 2 mixers to a stage box? what I mean to say is I want one mixer to control audio for a live stream and one for in house and I'm gonna connect all my mics and line into a stage box and want the signal to be sent to 2 mixers. how would I do that?
@danielkharrat11 күн бұрын
Connect foh mixer from port A to AES50 A on the stage box and then connect AES50 B of the stagebox to the livestream mixer port A and go to setup on the livestream console and set the clock source to aes50 A Then you can go to your inputs page and assign 1-32 to AES50 A 1-32 on both mixers
@favournjoku302410 күн бұрын
@@danielkharrat thank you so much for the answer but I just have one more question what if you have two stage boxes like I want to use two DL 16s how would I go about connecting that now?
@danielkharrat10 күн бұрын
@favournjoku3024 same thing. FOH mixer A to A on first stage box B from first stage box to A second stage box B from second stage box to A livestream mixer
@garyjenkins916911 күн бұрын
What is the difference with turning speakers down and turning down the Master Left/Right Fader (No Matrix)?
@danielkharrat11 күн бұрын
Turning the speakers down with the knob is a lot less accurate at lower volumes You could turn your main fader down if you don't have a matrix but i would prefer to leave the main fader as the volume of the mix and have a different fader as the volume of the speakers
@jonathanperezmendoza245713 күн бұрын
Thank's man!! The problem i see is that if i only need 1 insert i have to patch 8 outputs and i cant use them as monitors outputs.
@danielkharrat13 күн бұрын
You can assign it to user out and do 1 to 1 patching in the user out page
@aaronaudioguy15 күн бұрын
Lovely video. Thank you for sharing. Do you have a sheet that shows what the "function" buttons on the left of the faders can be used for?
@just_happening215 күн бұрын
What if I can hear the noise in the recording and is ruining it. Using the audio you provided. May I decrease the levels?
@danielkharrat15 күн бұрын
The purpose of the noise at this level is to mask the distortion. If you turn it down that's defeating the purpose of using it in the first place
@munztho16 күн бұрын
Very good!
@carlosmayorca464216 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! Your channel is a real gem. You're a great teacher.
@scandinavianserialki17 күн бұрын
Very cool! Does this make the two new monitor outputs unbalanced?
@danielkharrat17 күн бұрын
Yes the headphones output is unbalanced
@scandinavianserialki17 күн бұрын
this video really helped me wrap my head around all of this
@hiimlawrence19 күн бұрын
I dont think im understanding how the EQ changes you're doing towards the end get sent to the console, Does that mean the signal flow now is audio into OpenSoundMeter, processed in sound meter then back into console?
@danielkharrat19 күн бұрын
No the filters i apply in open sound meter are a prediction of what will happen if i do the same moves on the console After i know that this filter at this frequency with this much gain and cue will do this to my sound I go and do the same eq move on the console
@fernandojuarez32921 күн бұрын
Is this the same way for the m32c?
@louwinstv332021 күн бұрын
Hi Daniel I'm one of your fans of audio lessons you explained carefully and basically. Thank you for making videos and hoping for more videos about mixing live performances... By the way, can I ask what is the brand and model you are using of audio interface and mic measurement?
@danielkharrat19 күн бұрын
Audient evo 4 and behringer ECM 8000
@SuperMBARutgers201321 күн бұрын
As a nerd, salute.
@robin_miller_music21 күн бұрын
Question - If you have the main LR routed to 15/16 separate to the mono sub on 14, doesn't that mean that when you move the master LR fader the mono sub *won't* also change in volume??
@danielkharrat21 күн бұрын
In your mixer configuration if you have checked ✅️ "M/C depends on Main LR" under your link preferences then it will follow. Otherwise it stays independent
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I played around on the mix station free version last night. Where's the send on faders? But I did figure it out how to assign channels to a bus which wasn't a simple task. Why not a simple button on every channel like on analog? Whatever I did on the m32 mix app, also shows on m8x station I have those channels assigned to the busses. It dawned on me. I should of been building the show straight off my m32 live desk, save, export to thumb drive then import it to the m32c. I'm still confused with routing in digital world, such as pre post eq, faders. And I've been configuring this show in the dark with no audio at the moment. I'm waiting on a shock proof rack that is supposed to be delivered today. ✌️ Where do you live? Are you in India?
What is the name of your church
Christ Evangelical Baptist Church - Fanar
Great ... we just improved our sound yesterday, by looking at the RTA from our measuring mic. Guess I'll make a backup and give this process a shot. Seems more or less straight forward, to someone who's just figuring out all the technical details of setting up a music room
Not going lower than 1ms for attack time is very useful to know (I already understand how gates work). Weird artifact noises are evil. Lol.
How do you assign subgroups with the m32 app?
Nice concept!
Daniel, how do you safely shut down the m32c?
Lock it and then turn ut off
Lock it from where?
@FreeKeenan either in the app or on the mixer if you press the big knob in the front and twist it all the way to the right you will see on the screen the option to lock the mixer and the screen becomes red
I actually figured out to go into settings on the iPad, save scenes, and that works. Seems like the lock setting is for locking things down when leaving the iPad or unit left unattended. I just watched your video on, peg, vs. get, vs. true eq. Great video. Now how the heck do you assign a group of drums, keys vocals to a subgroup off the iPad? I can assign from the desk, but this is the m32c. This is painful for the analog kid. 😢
@FreeKeenan use mixing station it's really easy to do with mixing station here's a video kzread.info/dash/bejne/jKGJzbaefZbLmco.html
20:40 all above the case
Can you please do a video on the effects of M32, and how to route the inserts
Something I just can't figure out is what the actual difference between de stereo and dual function is. Can you explain that to me? :)
You use the stereo effect on a stereo channel or bus (2 linked channels or busses) The dual is used as 2 mono effects on 2 different channels or busses So it's like having 2 independent effects but they are in the same slot instead of taking up 2 slots
Great video a question can we put a snippet on a button assign button ex 8
Yes
@@danielkharrat thank you
Thank you!
Can I use AES/ EBU output to a wordclock (Black Lion Micro MK III)?
I wish I found this sooner, thank you so much
The dimming explanation was eh...still not clear. It seems the talkback doesn't have the preamp gain(ability) of the regular channel. So, does the dim, also reduce the level of those busses it's being sent to? Or is it only dimming in the headphone/mixing monitor ? Ultimately, if the talkback input doesn't have enough gain to be louder than the band playing, they won't hear you talk.
Can I use AES of a Midas M32 to a Micro Clock MKIII? Currently I use the USB expansion card to my computer. I’m afraid if I switch it out with a ADAT expansion card for wordclock I won’t have a way to have the Midas connect back to the computer via usb.
How do you connect a World Clock to a Midas M32?
Thank you
what i understand is that those files that we can download are just drag and drop? with the same level?
Yes
May I know the name of the song please?
قد مات في الصليب
Excellent! Clear and concise 👍
Can you show us how to set up Reaper for livestream mix?
Yes watch this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZmSO1ZSJgMS-dtI.html
Wow! Generally these videos cover the exact same thing in the exact same way and frankly I just don't get anything new, but you genuinely helped me to understand My X32 compressor massively.
if the level is getting too loud and it's clipping inside the gate plugin instead of doing wet +5 and dry 0 you can keep the wet slider at 0db and the dry slider at -5db and it will have the same effect but the overall level will be 5db lower so you can compensate for these 5db with a clipper plugin after the gate (threshold -6, ceiling -1)
👌🥰
Why would you not want to crowd mics on when the pastor is there?
Because the people rarely ever say anything during the sermon and since the mics are in the room close to the people if someone sneezes or coughs or a baby cries... i find things like these to be very distracting If you're in a pentecostal church and the people interact a lot with the pastor during the sermon then you would leave the crowd mics on
@@danielkharrat fair enough, thanks for the video! Without the mics it makes me feel disconnected from whats going on in the room.
@@danielkharrat Have you thought about a way to incorporate post fader from FOH yet?
@djbassick sure, ideally you'd have someone riding the faders of the crowd mics throughout the service
@@djbassick incorporate a post fader what?
Sorry to be a dolt, but I cannot find anything in the MS manual on how to make use of the downloaded .msz file. Please help.
I showed you how to import the file at the end of the video
@@danielkharrat Thank you. DOH! as we yanks like to say. I got excited and did not watch to the end. Won't do that again :-)
Great! ps. Did you try M32c - Dante and LiveProfessor? :)
No
That's a relief to know. The c should be delivered here this Thursday/tomorrow. I needed something super compact for these ridiculous micro bars. I use aes ebu out from the DL32 into the venue 360. I'll keep you posted on the outcome.
I noticed the m32c doesn't have aes ebu out. But the stagebox has it. Will I be able to use the aes ebu out from the digital stage since the m32c rack doesn't have it?
Yes It also doesn't have 1/4 inch aux ins and outs but you can use your stagebox i/o for auxes It's the same mixer If it something shows in the control app then it works You know on the full size m32 you have an xlr tab in the routing menu to assign the local xlr outputs on the back of the mixer to something else, but that tab is empty for the m32c because it doesn't have any local xlr outs So to answer your question, yes you can use the aes/ebu on the stagebox box and you can assign a signal to it from the aux out page
This is very creative. Awesome job!!
And here I am using 2 iPads, a 17 inch laptop, 22 inch touch screen with mini PC attached to it, and an X-Touch. Lol.
It's total loop gain that we need to control to avoid feedback. That includes microphone transducer gain, pre-amp gain, fader and EQ gains, power amplifier gain, speaker transducer gain and acoustic path gain (loss) from speaker cone to microphone diaphragm. Reducing *any* of these gains will mitigate feedback, but there is no reason to have excessive gain in the path from the mixer to the speaker voice coils, so I take your point and I like your method.
Brilliant explanation!!
Thanks!
Please how can I set a talkback mic for our MD to talk to the instrumentalis through our behringer P16 thank you
Thank you for the very informative video. I have a question. how do you connect 2 mixers to a stage box? what I mean to say is I want one mixer to control audio for a live stream and one for in house and I'm gonna connect all my mics and line into a stage box and want the signal to be sent to 2 mixers. how would I do that?
Connect foh mixer from port A to AES50 A on the stage box and then connect AES50 B of the stagebox to the livestream mixer port A and go to setup on the livestream console and set the clock source to aes50 A Then you can go to your inputs page and assign 1-32 to AES50 A 1-32 on both mixers
@@danielkharrat thank you so much for the answer but I just have one more question what if you have two stage boxes like I want to use two DL 16s how would I go about connecting that now?
@favournjoku3024 same thing. FOH mixer A to A on first stage box B from first stage box to A second stage box B from second stage box to A livestream mixer
What is the difference with turning speakers down and turning down the Master Left/Right Fader (No Matrix)?
Turning the speakers down with the knob is a lot less accurate at lower volumes You could turn your main fader down if you don't have a matrix but i would prefer to leave the main fader as the volume of the mix and have a different fader as the volume of the speakers
Thank's man!! The problem i see is that if i only need 1 insert i have to patch 8 outputs and i cant use them as monitors outputs.
You can assign it to user out and do 1 to 1 patching in the user out page
Lovely video. Thank you for sharing. Do you have a sheet that shows what the "function" buttons on the left of the faders can be used for?
What if I can hear the noise in the recording and is ruining it. Using the audio you provided. May I decrease the levels?
The purpose of the noise at this level is to mask the distortion. If you turn it down that's defeating the purpose of using it in the first place
Very good!
Thank you so much for this video! Your channel is a real gem. You're a great teacher.
Very cool! Does this make the two new monitor outputs unbalanced?
Yes the headphones output is unbalanced
this video really helped me wrap my head around all of this
I dont think im understanding how the EQ changes you're doing towards the end get sent to the console, Does that mean the signal flow now is audio into OpenSoundMeter, processed in sound meter then back into console?
No the filters i apply in open sound meter are a prediction of what will happen if i do the same moves on the console After i know that this filter at this frequency with this much gain and cue will do this to my sound I go and do the same eq move on the console
Is this the same way for the m32c?
Hi Daniel I'm one of your fans of audio lessons you explained carefully and basically. Thank you for making videos and hoping for more videos about mixing live performances... By the way, can I ask what is the brand and model you are using of audio interface and mic measurement?
Audient evo 4 and behringer ECM 8000
As a nerd, salute.
Question - If you have the main LR routed to 15/16 separate to the mono sub on 14, doesn't that mean that when you move the master LR fader the mono sub *won't* also change in volume??
In your mixer configuration if you have checked ✅️ "M/C depends on Main LR" under your link preferences then it will follow. Otherwise it stays independent
@danielkharrat Ah, cool. That's easy then! Thanks.