There was an electronic shifting rohloff too, I have that since 2021...
@julkkis6662 сағат бұрын
This video tought me to actually change my gears. This worked well until my rusty gears stopped working on my old bikes 😂😂 tbh this is a really good video. For the longest time i only used the biggest gear.
@stridersmythe88602 сағат бұрын
Dont be fools, just get a mountain bike. They are not faster.
@Billy-burner3 сағат бұрын
Do these take the torque from mid drive ebike motors?
@keacoq3 сағат бұрын
A gravel bike is a road bike adapted to gravel roads and hence mostly with drop bars But better a MTB adapted to gravel roads, mainly by removing suspension, hence with flat bars. I have used a flat bar, no-supension, bike using MTB hardware, for about 13 years. Wide tyres and low gears are normal. Flat bars are less expensive, more flexile and gove better control on rough ground. MTB hardware is better adapted to rough conditions. The other suggested changes, suspension and enclosed gearboxes are less important and more expensive and involve significant weight penalties. So: cut to the chase, use flat bars and 2x or 3x drivetrains and MTB hardware. Better and less expensive.
@carlrichards93334 сағат бұрын
There just road bikes with thicker tyres and now it sounds there turning into mtb bikes with drop bars....DEFINITELY NOTHING NEW HERE..... ..
@MD_il_microcanale10 сағат бұрын
meno male che io ho il primo modello LHT con sganci rapidi normali e freni cantilever su ruote da 26. mi dispiace che ci siano questi problemi con i nuovi forcellini con asse semi-passante che quando si frena energicamente coi freni a disco l'asse si sposta nel forcellino. spero che ad oggi abbiano risolto il problema o ne va del loro nome
@teabagNBG13 сағат бұрын
gates belt drive and pinion is aweseome it tried the mcu last year on the euro bike.... also a small suspension (lockable) ont he seat and the fork is pretty helpfull
@davidfernando176513 сағат бұрын
With this mechanics conceptions always follow the rule #1: If there aren't some engineers defending this concept, it's just not worth using
@vek0vek013 сағат бұрын
Awesome video. Thank you.
@uncommonsense36014 сағат бұрын
Call of the void = call of cutting the strings with scissors if I come across a parked string bike.
@satyamisbored14 сағат бұрын
Greg please do a video on ICMR Dietary guidelines published recently in India. media headlines are going crazy over it!
@yannnique1714 сағат бұрын
I think Gravelbikes will be made in more categories and not just Gravelbike. Like Road has Aero, Climbing and Endurance, or MTB has Cross Country, Trail, Downhill and Enduro, Gravelbikes could be made in categories like touring (the basic Gravelbike of today), xtra offroad (with suspension and MTB tires) and race (no mounting points, made for speed). Many already have this, like the Canyon Grail would be a race Gravelbike and the Canyon Grizzl is for touring, bike packing, commuting and so.
@beluga60015 сағат бұрын
Pay 90 dollars for a sram chain then tell me chain are cheap
@joeyjo-jojuniorshabadoo682716 сағат бұрын
Yes, gear ratios give you mechanical advantage BUT as you climb you are gaining potential energy which has to come from somewhere. On a flat surface you are fighting friction only. As you climb you fight friction and transfer kinetic energy into potential energy.
@Yeet4206916 сағат бұрын
Drive shafts are simply unreliable. You do not have the frame and weight of a car to keep it al togheter and bicycles were made with more tolerances in mind than a drive shaft. If you fall and bend the backwheel slightly it fails. If you fall and bend the frame slightly it fails. If some of the teeth gen nicked on the backwheel it fails. If you make it too light weight, it fails because of the forces working on individual teeth instead of all the teeth. If the shaft itself gets nickef by anything capable of bending it, it fails. Meanwhile solid metal chains don't fail in any of the above mentioned scenario's. Yes they fail for their own reasons, but people forget that they also bring a lot of advantages to the table.
@captainxorro855317 сағат бұрын
The hill they aren't!
@diyfamily684820 сағат бұрын
Reinventing the wheel: lets make it more complex with more parts, which means more things to go break down ?
@recyclespinning983920 сағат бұрын
The beauty of bikes is you can have a 40 year old frame, just switch out a few worn parts and off you go. I actually like shifting. My car is manual shift also 😊
@SERGIO-cr6uy22 сағат бұрын
Does anyone know the name of the bike at 3:25? I kinda liked the design, I would love to check it out.
@Cyclingabout22 сағат бұрын
Mando Footloose
@ValkaneerКүн бұрын
This is only true if you are a well fit cycler. If you are riding normally around in 5-6 gear range you will have to petal so fast in 1st gear that you certainly will doing more work just in how fast you have to petal to maintain enough speed to balance.
@StepDubКүн бұрын
I used one for several years. One drawback was diving when braking. Despite this I greatly preferred the bike with it than without.
@luca_dierksКүн бұрын
A lot of those bikes are darn close to XC hardtails with drop bars. Fluidity in bike categories is a GOOD thing, IMO. It's just funny to hear 'gravel bikes are getting better' when they really just get more similar to bikes designed for offroad / mountain use.
@VolkanTaninmisКүн бұрын
in 5 years, 26' mtb's will be popular... Again..
@derekeadie6230Күн бұрын
I own a gravel bike, and a couple of mtb’s, use them entirely differently. I don’t understand these Road bikes with fat tyres and suspension. Gravel bike, cyclocross bike fine for canal, dirt roads, grassland etc. not for doing cross country requiring the bike to take hits. Gravel bikes are for doing road kinda stuff on dirt roads, end.
@dreadmink8577Күн бұрын
So you are telling me hills are easy, on bikes with more than one gear. Wonderful could have never figured that out on my own truly brilliant
@moose56Күн бұрын
Don’t know about most people but I have 1 bike and will likely always only have one bike. I got a gravel bike 3 years ago that was way closer to road than MTB and it suits me really well. Since then gravel bikes have just moved more and more towards MTB. There is a gap now between road and “gravel” I honestly don’t know what I would buy now.
@user-ub7wu6hv2pКүн бұрын
What a load of crap on this video
@tingtongcroz2639Күн бұрын
Gravel bike is for gravel. Gears, suspension and tires of a front MTB don't make a better gravel bike, it makes a very uncomfortable bike when it comes to go downhill because of the handle bar and the brake's position...but hey, it looks cool!
@LevinsTheКүн бұрын
Isn't it like for old people?
@cfcfan72Күн бұрын
If you’re on open pancake-flat ground with a strong headwind it’s the worst. And possibly more demoralising than hills because you see exactly how much farther you have to go. And if there are no interesting features that 3 mile boundary doesn’t appear to move
@floring480Күн бұрын
I have one on my old hard tail, but I bought a new one, I took a short ride, I didn't ride it again for one week until the suspension seatpost arrived for it. Best upgrade and a must have for a hard tail.
@cypvh74Күн бұрын
Is that tube mounted shock system compatible with many frames?
@dt76sfКүн бұрын
There’s only so many gears on my cassette so once I’m at the biggest cog there is no more dropping down a gear. It’s up to my stamina then. Luckily I recently lost 30 pounds and hills “seem” easier now 😂😂
@SJNaka101Күн бұрын
Okay so to break down what he's saying: You should be in a low enough gear on a hill such that you're expending the same amount of energy on the hill as on flat ground over *time.* He is not saying it takes the same amount of energy to climb the same distance of a hill as to ride on flat ground. It should just not really be more effort in a given time to climb compared to flat ground. If the lowest gear on your bike does not provide this equalization of effort, there's one of 3 problems 1. The hill is too steep 2. Your gears dont go low enough 3. You're too weak (git gud) You cannot change the steepness of a hill, but there are ways to improve the other 2 problems.
@takhonri4225Күн бұрын
Great video!
@cypvh74Күн бұрын
Why don’t gravel bikes have suspension?
@TinLeadHammer2 күн бұрын
Turned this video off 10 seconds in because of the music. Disliked.
@fapmashina12 күн бұрын
Great analysis! You've pointed on interesting aspects of each bike configuration! 👍 I've almost always had flat bars bikes and like them a lot! I've recently bought new Trek FX 2 disk with 2x9 drivetrain and I'm very satisfied with it's flat bars and how it behaves. It is quite fast, stable and fun to drive bike although it has cheap but still smooth Altus m2000 rear shifter. Only minor problem is that original grips aren't as comfortable as they should be on longer rides (over 15-20 km or more). Greetings from Croatia
@giespel682 күн бұрын
Just curious.. Doesn't the free floating goo cause any trouble, like infections?
@Donkey_Ate_Uncle2 күн бұрын
As a Turk I'm happy to see a book that is Turkish :)
@andia68652 күн бұрын
I got to say that I love Alfine 8 spenden hub. I had one on a used bike that I added 60k km on without an oil chance. Never had a problem. Sold the bike after first oil change after 10 years, probably still running.
@Billy-burner3 сағат бұрын
60k? Bs dude
@andia68652 сағат бұрын
@@Billy-burner Yes,why lie?
@astronomenov992 күн бұрын
Those Vittoria Randonneur tyres are horrendously draggy! Once I discovered that fact, I used them so I could train with my girlfriend so we could ride together.
@aeromtb24682 күн бұрын
just get a hard tail mtb
@recyclespinning98392 күн бұрын
My Schwinn Paramount mountain bike has a 3x9, Deore groupset, takes wide tires, and rack mounts for touring. . I have a Titanium road bike, and thinking of a new Lynsky titanium gravel. I like the new geometry and bigger head tube for stability, disc. Etc.
@magnus91652 күн бұрын
Not if they still have derailleur gears. People are done with derailleurs. Mickey Mouse technology that is way past DONE.
@jazzrat20002 күн бұрын
After having 1100 cc and a 750CC shaft drive Yamaha's I'm sold on them.
@TheRobo1013 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video for sure buying one of these when my car finally breaks!
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There was an electronic shifting rohloff too, I have that since 2021...
This video tought me to actually change my gears. This worked well until my rusty gears stopped working on my old bikes 😂😂 tbh this is a really good video. For the longest time i only used the biggest gear.
Dont be fools, just get a mountain bike. They are not faster.
Do these take the torque from mid drive ebike motors?
A gravel bike is a road bike adapted to gravel roads and hence mostly with drop bars But better a MTB adapted to gravel roads, mainly by removing suspension, hence with flat bars. I have used a flat bar, no-supension, bike using MTB hardware, for about 13 years. Wide tyres and low gears are normal. Flat bars are less expensive, more flexile and gove better control on rough ground. MTB hardware is better adapted to rough conditions. The other suggested changes, suspension and enclosed gearboxes are less important and more expensive and involve significant weight penalties. So: cut to the chase, use flat bars and 2x or 3x drivetrains and MTB hardware. Better and less expensive.
There just road bikes with thicker tyres and now it sounds there turning into mtb bikes with drop bars....DEFINITELY NOTHING NEW HERE..... ..
meno male che io ho il primo modello LHT con sganci rapidi normali e freni cantilever su ruote da 26. mi dispiace che ci siano questi problemi con i nuovi forcellini con asse semi-passante che quando si frena energicamente coi freni a disco l'asse si sposta nel forcellino. spero che ad oggi abbiano risolto il problema o ne va del loro nome
gates belt drive and pinion is aweseome it tried the mcu last year on the euro bike.... also a small suspension (lockable) ont he seat and the fork is pretty helpfull
With this mechanics conceptions always follow the rule #1: If there aren't some engineers defending this concept, it's just not worth using
Awesome video. Thank you.
Call of the void = call of cutting the strings with scissors if I come across a parked string bike.
Greg please do a video on ICMR Dietary guidelines published recently in India. media headlines are going crazy over it!
I think Gravelbikes will be made in more categories and not just Gravelbike. Like Road has Aero, Climbing and Endurance, or MTB has Cross Country, Trail, Downhill and Enduro, Gravelbikes could be made in categories like touring (the basic Gravelbike of today), xtra offroad (with suspension and MTB tires) and race (no mounting points, made for speed). Many already have this, like the Canyon Grail would be a race Gravelbike and the Canyon Grizzl is for touring, bike packing, commuting and so.
Pay 90 dollars for a sram chain then tell me chain are cheap
Yes, gear ratios give you mechanical advantage BUT as you climb you are gaining potential energy which has to come from somewhere. On a flat surface you are fighting friction only. As you climb you fight friction and transfer kinetic energy into potential energy.
Drive shafts are simply unreliable. You do not have the frame and weight of a car to keep it al togheter and bicycles were made with more tolerances in mind than a drive shaft. If you fall and bend the backwheel slightly it fails. If you fall and bend the frame slightly it fails. If some of the teeth gen nicked on the backwheel it fails. If you make it too light weight, it fails because of the forces working on individual teeth instead of all the teeth. If the shaft itself gets nickef by anything capable of bending it, it fails. Meanwhile solid metal chains don't fail in any of the above mentioned scenario's. Yes they fail for their own reasons, but people forget that they also bring a lot of advantages to the table.
The hill they aren't!
Reinventing the wheel: lets make it more complex with more parts, which means more things to go break down ?
The beauty of bikes is you can have a 40 year old frame, just switch out a few worn parts and off you go. I actually like shifting. My car is manual shift also 😊
Does anyone know the name of the bike at 3:25? I kinda liked the design, I would love to check it out.
Mando Footloose
This is only true if you are a well fit cycler. If you are riding normally around in 5-6 gear range you will have to petal so fast in 1st gear that you certainly will doing more work just in how fast you have to petal to maintain enough speed to balance.
I used one for several years. One drawback was diving when braking. Despite this I greatly preferred the bike with it than without.
A lot of those bikes are darn close to XC hardtails with drop bars. Fluidity in bike categories is a GOOD thing, IMO. It's just funny to hear 'gravel bikes are getting better' when they really just get more similar to bikes designed for offroad / mountain use.
in 5 years, 26' mtb's will be popular... Again..
I own a gravel bike, and a couple of mtb’s, use them entirely differently. I don’t understand these Road bikes with fat tyres and suspension. Gravel bike, cyclocross bike fine for canal, dirt roads, grassland etc. not for doing cross country requiring the bike to take hits. Gravel bikes are for doing road kinda stuff on dirt roads, end.
So you are telling me hills are easy, on bikes with more than one gear. Wonderful could have never figured that out on my own truly brilliant
Don’t know about most people but I have 1 bike and will likely always only have one bike. I got a gravel bike 3 years ago that was way closer to road than MTB and it suits me really well. Since then gravel bikes have just moved more and more towards MTB. There is a gap now between road and “gravel” I honestly don’t know what I would buy now.
What a load of crap on this video
Gravel bike is for gravel. Gears, suspension and tires of a front MTB don't make a better gravel bike, it makes a very uncomfortable bike when it comes to go downhill because of the handle bar and the brake's position...but hey, it looks cool!
Isn't it like for old people?
If you’re on open pancake-flat ground with a strong headwind it’s the worst. And possibly more demoralising than hills because you see exactly how much farther you have to go. And if there are no interesting features that 3 mile boundary doesn’t appear to move
I have one on my old hard tail, but I bought a new one, I took a short ride, I didn't ride it again for one week until the suspension seatpost arrived for it. Best upgrade and a must have for a hard tail.
Is that tube mounted shock system compatible with many frames?
There’s only so many gears on my cassette so once I’m at the biggest cog there is no more dropping down a gear. It’s up to my stamina then. Luckily I recently lost 30 pounds and hills “seem” easier now 😂😂
Okay so to break down what he's saying: You should be in a low enough gear on a hill such that you're expending the same amount of energy on the hill as on flat ground over *time.* He is not saying it takes the same amount of energy to climb the same distance of a hill as to ride on flat ground. It should just not really be more effort in a given time to climb compared to flat ground. If the lowest gear on your bike does not provide this equalization of effort, there's one of 3 problems 1. The hill is too steep 2. Your gears dont go low enough 3. You're too weak (git gud) You cannot change the steepness of a hill, but there are ways to improve the other 2 problems.
Great video!
Why don’t gravel bikes have suspension?
Turned this video off 10 seconds in because of the music. Disliked.
Great analysis! You've pointed on interesting aspects of each bike configuration! 👍 I've almost always had flat bars bikes and like them a lot! I've recently bought new Trek FX 2 disk with 2x9 drivetrain and I'm very satisfied with it's flat bars and how it behaves. It is quite fast, stable and fun to drive bike although it has cheap but still smooth Altus m2000 rear shifter. Only minor problem is that original grips aren't as comfortable as they should be on longer rides (over 15-20 km or more). Greetings from Croatia
Just curious.. Doesn't the free floating goo cause any trouble, like infections?
As a Turk I'm happy to see a book that is Turkish :)
I got to say that I love Alfine 8 spenden hub. I had one on a used bike that I added 60k km on without an oil chance. Never had a problem. Sold the bike after first oil change after 10 years, probably still running.
60k? Bs dude
@@Billy-burner Yes,why lie?
Those Vittoria Randonneur tyres are horrendously draggy! Once I discovered that fact, I used them so I could train with my girlfriend so we could ride together.
just get a hard tail mtb
My Schwinn Paramount mountain bike has a 3x9, Deore groupset, takes wide tires, and rack mounts for touring. . I have a Titanium road bike, and thinking of a new Lynsky titanium gravel. I like the new geometry and bigger head tube for stability, disc. Etc.
Not if they still have derailleur gears. People are done with derailleurs. Mickey Mouse technology that is way past DONE.
After having 1100 cc and a 750CC shaft drive Yamaha's I'm sold on them.
Thanks for the video for sure buying one of these when my car finally breaks!
[09:39]
Bloody nonsense, i tell thee