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  @ChaseRoycroft7 күн бұрын

  Another interesting data point: The Talmud gives examples of several changes the seventy(-two) translators intentionally made to the Hebrew text. AFAIK, *none* of those changes are found in our LXX.

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  @ChaseRoycroft7 күн бұрын

  I've come to the same conclusions myself. The LXX we have is not the one the seventy(-two) translators made, which only had five books.

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  @aknightwhosaysni247510 күн бұрын

  Where can I find your material now, my good man?

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  @Run2ChristLive4 күн бұрын

  This is it bro. I haven't done anything since 2020. I may in the future. God bless

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  @aknightwhosaysni24754 күн бұрын

  @Run2ChristLive Hopefully you do, I would look forward to it. God bless you too.

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  @shihtzulife110229 күн бұрын

  The newspaper article says the writer is Samantha Harvey. That is an anagram for harvest man and anathemas.

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  @Dr.Bitterbrains-xf9prАй бұрын

  The Septuagint is the original not a translation

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  @normmcinnis41022 ай бұрын

  I find that the Septuagint has a very shady history that cannot be verified.

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  @chrissysconvos3 ай бұрын

  I remember seeing this so very long ago and here it is again.

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  @JesusSaves21214 ай бұрын

  Best video on the internet

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  @Run2ChristLive4 ай бұрын

  Thank you, glad you like it! God bless.

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  @JesusSaves21214 ай бұрын

  @@Run2ChristLive thank you Brother !hope to see you come back to making content someday. God Bless you and Family !

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  @Run2ChristLive4 ай бұрын

  @@JesusSaves2121 That may come in the near future. Trying to get a camera for new types of content. Lord willing.

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  @JesusSaves21214 ай бұрын

  @@Run2ChristLive that would be awesome . Do you have a Venmo or a way for supporters to donate ?

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  @asurvila4 ай бұрын

  It is not necessarily so that by exposing logical contradictions you can get the opponent on your side. My friend disconnected from me after 40 years of friendship after I did it. He had claimed there were no absolute truths, I replied that it was an absolute claim, and he did not want to continue. He suggested we talk about something different. I immediately had doubts if any talk would make sense, if you could not agree that truth matters. What's the point of talking of anything that is not true? Believe it not, our 40-years long friendship ended after that.

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  @Run2ChristLive4 ай бұрын

  Sorry to hear about your friendship ending over one difference of opinion. Unfortunately that seems to be how things are these days, no one wants anything that threatens the truth they have decided to believe. Great counter though pointing out his own absolute truth claim.

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  @asurvila4 ай бұрын

  @@Run2ChristLive There was one more thing I realized later: if my friend had agreed with me, he would have had a conflict of views with his wife. It's another peculiarity of our times that men allow women to lead for the sake of "love" at the expense of logic and truth. I heard him say directly that last time that truth was not what mattered most.

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  @AVMamfortas4 ай бұрын

  So many fine Christian people who rely upon the Bible. Than God for His establishing the Catholic Church that compiled the Bible. Odd that so many christians reject and protest the One True, Catholic and Apostolic Church established by Christ.

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  @hosoiarchives48585 ай бұрын

  Man he really explained this like garbage Short story, the masoretic didn’t exist during the New Testament

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  @brotherbrian77785 ай бұрын

  People who say the MT wasn't made until 10th cent CE don't understand it was just the nikkudot, the pronunciation tradition was created to preserve how to read it orally. The consonantal text was not created or changed at that time, it existed centuries before. Sorry, but the Jewish adherence and respect for the letter text far surpasses the gentile adherence or respect for the Hebrew text. It seems pretty evident that the early Christians had no qualms with altering the OT text when desired, like adding Paul's words into the OT in order to "prove" he was quoting it. Now we are so far removed from it that we see it just as it was intended by those early gentile Christians. This is also evidenced by early statements about the divine inspiration for the "perfect Greek language" version, lol.

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  @TruSciencePro5 ай бұрын

  Good grief…but, he who is not against us is on our side.

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  @Charlie-op2lk5 ай бұрын

  Where is the part 2 video bro?

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  @jaredvaughan16655 ай бұрын

  The texts from the Septuagint are much older than the Masoretic texts. And much has been corrupted from the Masoretic texts that the Septuagint maintains. I would not be surprised if virgin was changed to young woman by the jews themselves in the Masoretic texts. The early Christian fathers proclaimed that the Jews corrupted their own texts in response to Christianity. The Book of Hebrews refers to portions of verses from the Septuagint that are not longer found in the Masoretic texts.

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  @RealJugLY5 ай бұрын

  This video made me lose brain cells

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  @Run2ChristLive5 ай бұрын

  Not to worry you still have the other two

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  @RealJugLY5 ай бұрын

  hardy ha ha @@Run2ChristLive

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  @yeshuaslivingwordoftruth42676 ай бұрын

  YES & AMEIN thank you brother I am in complete agreeance with you I am so fed up with being attacked from both sides people claiming that Yeshua mean Satan that Jesus means Zeus from these Hebrew Roots movement that we know have no relation ethnically to the Israelites the ones that are currently there are blinded but yes they were Ruddy to show blood through the skin not as these black devils are trying to be stumbling blocks to the Saints Shalom Aleichem❤️‍🔥🕎🕊💞😇🙌

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  @mo-end-times-info6 ай бұрын

  This video and partner video content is much appreciated. God Bless.

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  @mo-end-times-info6 ай бұрын

  Ray seven - ties in with the current tyranny which George HW Bush said "the rule of law" "not of the jungle" ( not of the freedoms of our God given rights - but a totalitarian rules based dictatorship ) Not so much love and peace in the core doctrines of The New Age after all - The New Age has been deceptively marketed for years as love, peace, tolerance and non conformity etc but it's core doctrines advocate the "elimination" of people who do not conform to THEIR own set of rules. And they mock Christianity which advocates people make their own choices. ( Many misrepresent Christianity by conflating it with Roman Catholicism and it's daughter religions ) Typical satanic tricks of the devil - bait and switch.

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  @mo-end-times-info6 ай бұрын

  There do seem to be frequent stories on social media about "solar flares" and pole shifts etc Personally do not see evidence that solar flares are possible - and not sure what pole shifts are meant to be - lots of programming in the media ( Microsoft Start - is off the chain with constant amounts of programming )

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  @WgB57 ай бұрын

  This is all rather complex. To put it all simpler. This volume did not come into existence until close to 200 years after Christ. The Sep was influenced by the NT- not the other way around.

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  @Dr.Bitterbrains-xf9pr8 ай бұрын

  You might want to believe the Septuagint cause it was written two thousand years before the masoretic the masoretic was copied from the Greek into the fictional created language because the Hebrew language was dead around three thousand dead so they fabricated it and that fabricated text was what the king James was created from that's why the language is so poor

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  @Dr.Bitterbrains-xf9pr8 ай бұрын

  The Septuagint predates the masoretic by eight hundred to two thousand years

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  @catt45988 ай бұрын

  Fuck gates and these companies who think people will eat their buggy “fake meat”. Shove it up your damn asses. Weirdos. We all know these billionaire dumbasses will be eating real meat.

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  @Vulture4029 ай бұрын

  Something clicked for me at about the 15 minute mark: the LXX is a translation, just like the ESV or the NAS. Jesus and the apostles give these types of translations credence by extensively quoting a translation rather than always going back to the Hebrew.

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  @KartovOndulevitch9 ай бұрын

  Pharisians probably laugh, watching all those worshippers of the masoretic scam🙄. LXX is obviously the only one Holy Scripture.

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  @ajwu-iv2io10 ай бұрын

  Interesting how most of the secular arguments in the comments all fail to refute the main point of the speaker, insead focusing on little mistakes/sentences that really arent important to the argument

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  @Black-Circle11 ай бұрын

  veganism is malnutrition

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  @samabhistory11 ай бұрын

  You’re getting it all wrong. The purpose of the show is not to condemn the Bible or Christianity itself but rather to criticize religious fundamentalism and people who use religion for their own benefits. If you actually watch the show, you’ll notice Jesus is never mentioned. This is because Jesus is incompatible with the Gilead Regimes agenda (he’s “too forgiving”) thus gilead follows mostly Old Testament law. This is an example of theocratic dictatorships cherry picking verses out of holy books. So no, the show is not attacking Christians and religions.

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  @latinboyyy305 Жыл бұрын

  After listening to this man, I still prefer to read the Septuagint.

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  @BornAgainRN Жыл бұрын

  25:00 this is where Dr. Williams points out they were different books in early Septuaginta than there are today.

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  @BlessedOne6867 ай бұрын

  Thanks

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  @bobvadney7240 Жыл бұрын

  Since this LXX...is LATE 2nd Century....they or it would be citing Paul...Paul being a 1st century writer....st al

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  @bobvadney7240 Жыл бұрын

  As for the 4 gospels...speak for herself when ya say..." we struggle over the meaning of these 4 gospels....." you may..." doesn't mean..." we all...." your limitations about God,s word....are not mine....." Dr..." what the hell ...ever....!!!!! Dan.2:22 ;Jn.14:26;15:26&16:13...Jer.33:3 Isa.1:10-20(V18);55:7,8Jer 29:13....

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  @thearamsay9578 Жыл бұрын

  Thank you, brother, for doing this podcast. Or KZread video. There was a lot of to do made about Harry Potter in the Christian community, and still is. Even though Mrs. Rowling didn’t blaspheme God, while she told her story of magic and adventure, and mostly fantasy. I have not heard except for you, I have not heard one sermon against the blasphemies of God that are promoted in the TV show. Yes, I’m watching it, and I will continue to watch it, but I am very surprised that no Christian preachers have actually come out and explain the whole Jacob, Rachel, Leah, dynamic. Even Mrs. Atwood herself, although she is an agnostic, and doesn’t know the Lord or the Bible for herself, I am angry with her because she took all the wicked stuff that was done in the name of Christianity, and portrayed that. But then she also added all the other wicked stuff from Islam like you just said. There’s no Christian Problem with women reading. As a matter of fact, we’re all supposed to know and read God’s word. Even in the Old Testament. I don’t know that women could actually read Bibles in the Old Testament like we can today. I know that they couldn’t. But still, Mrs. Atwood created a horrible thing and then put Christianity on there on its head. She labelled it Christianity. I’m not angry with her because she’s not a believer. I’m angry with her because she knowingly took elements of other religions, such as Islam, put their stench on top of Christianity, which does have a history of its own problems and sins that we have done, And she created this whole horrible tale. I am speaking as a Christian now, not as a fellow author. The work as well done. But I feel Mrs. Atwood was completely irresponsible. If you want to portray some thing, at least get it right. Now she says that she didn’t portray anything that hasn’t happened or isn’t happening in the world. That’s fine. But to portray it and then I’ll call it all Christianity? Nope. Anyway, thanks for, this I’m going to share it.

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  @Alexander-wq7qo3 ай бұрын

  Yet women weren’t allowed to read when the puritans came over and no one could under Catholic rule in europe.

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  @MissSydney81 Жыл бұрын

  As Genesis 30:1-3 goes, “And she said, Behold my maid Bilhah, go in unto her; and she shall bear upon my knees, that I may also have children by her”

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  @GizmoFromPizmo Жыл бұрын

  James may have been in favor of the Gentiles getting on the bandwagon but we know that this took the form of their becoming Jews. James was "of the circumcision" (as Paul describes in the Book of Galatians). But whether James actually believed that the Gentiles should have been circumcised or not is almost incidental. James' church in Jerusalem, by at least Acts 16 (post Council of Jerusalem) was overrun by the priests and the Pharisees who started coming in around about Acts 6 (after the money ran out and their socialist commune began to crumble). Jesus said, "Beware the leaven of the Pharisees", but James never heard that warning. (Jesus' brothers didn't believe in Him (John 7:5).) The Jerusalem church, under James' bishopric, became a defacto sect of Judaism.

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  @GizmoFromPizmo Жыл бұрын

  This guy is spending a LOT of time on semantics. It better have a huge payoff at some point. Sheesh! That was the long way around saying, "The Septuagint is not a single translation". It was a pretty good presentation, tho. I had to slow it down to 0.75 to hear the words he was using.

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  @Livin_LettinLive Жыл бұрын

  Thank You For Making This One, Shared 13 Oct. '17 (5778 Shemini Atzeret, Simchat Torah) ... Your BEST Video? YES (IMO) 👍 My Second "Thanks" To You, The First Having Somehow "Disappeared" Since Posting It Within The Last Hour, Or So 😡 Actually, I Noticed It Missing After Returning To Watch Again While Reading Thru The Comments. I Watched Multiple Times Each Time Visiting Your Channel Today. Kind Regards ( Tuesday, 2 May '23 ) From The "Far East" .

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  @Livin_LettinLive Жыл бұрын

  Thank You For Making & Sharing This Episode, But Disappointed There's No "Episode 2" Nearly 5 Years Later 🤔 Regardless, Kind Regards ( Tuesday, 2 May 2023 ) From The "Far East" 🙂 .

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  @NuevaCriaturaValera Жыл бұрын

  The preface of the Septuagint marketed today points out that the stories surrounding the B.C. (before Christ) creation of the Septuagint (LXX) and the existence of a Greek Old Testament are based on fables. All of the Septuagint manuscripts cited in its concordance were written after A.D. 200 and represent Origen’s Hexapla, in kind. The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics elaborates, calling “the letter of the pseudo- Aristeas, a manifest forgery and the fragments of Aristobulus highly suspect.” It also points out many of the LXX’s Gnostic and Platonic readings. The fable of the Septuagint arose from the counterfeit letter of pseudo- Aristeas. It said that seventy-two scholars were called, around 250 B.C., by Ptolemy, king of Egypt, to create a Greek Old Testament. This Egyptian ruler supposedly asked them a number of questions related to pagan philosophy and pagan theology. If they could answer these questions, they could be on the Septuagint “committee.” The fable further states that six Jews from each of the twelve tribes were involved. The word Septuagint means seventy, however, not seventy- two. The Septuagint (LXX) cannot be the word of God for several reasons: 1. Only the tribe of Levi was permitted by God to write the scriptures (1 Chron. 16:4). 2. Any Jew living in or returning to Egypt was in direct disobedience to God’s command in Deuteronomy 17:16. “But he shall not... cause the people to return to Egypt... forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way It contains apocryphal books such as Tobit, The Prayer of Manasses, 2 Esdras, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, 1 and 2 Maccabees; there are also additions to Esther and Daniel. Jesus never quoted the Apocrypha and the Jews rejected it also. (Corrupt manuscripts followed by the NIV and NASB contain these false books within the Old Testament text itself!) 4. Origen’s six-column Old Testament, the Hexapla, parallels O.T. versions by Theodotian, Symmachus, and Aquilla. All three were Gnostic occultists. The NIV’s three letters could be changed to OOO, “Old Origen’s oracles

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  @Berean_with_a_BTh5 ай бұрын

  So how do you explain the NT quotations from the OT that agree with the Septuagint rather than any known Hebrew text?

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  @NuevaCriaturaValera Жыл бұрын

  All corrupt Bibles are built on the unbelief of these two men... and to think there are actually evangelicals out there who not only claim these Bibles as their final authority, but also promote the use of them. Westcott ● Was a Bishop of the Anglican church ● Believed in the apostolic succession of Anglican Priests through the Roman Catholic succession "through Peter". ● Worshipped the virgin Mary. ● Did not believe in the atonement of Christ for mankind's sins. ● Believed the first three chapters of Genesis to be a parable. Hort ● Saw Protestant evangelicals as being perverted. ● Had issues with the Bible as being his final authority. ● Equated Mary worship with Jesus worship. ● Believed in salvation by sacraments. ● Believed in baptismal regeneration. ● Believed in evolution. ● Believed in purgatory. ● Scoffed at scripture being infallible. ● Denied the fall of Man through Adam, thus denying the depravity of Man. During the time when Westcott and Hort were translating, the Roman Catholic Vaticanus and Sinaticus always took precedence over other texts when they encountered contradictions, and in so doing became guilty of - ● Slandering God's words. ● Attacking His deity. ● Denying, denigrating and demeaning the Lord Jesus Christ. The nvi and Bibles are based on the critical catholic Codex Sinaiticus and Codex which are critical texts and they include missing whole verses And questioning the diety of Jesus Christ The word of God has been copied and preserved in the Majority received text in the English language in the Authorized King James Bible in Spanish we have today the Valera 1602 Purificada Both are God's preserved copy of his word for us today Amen Psalms 12:6-7 (KJB) The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. Valera 1602 Purificada Salmos:12 [6] Las palabras del SEÑOR, palabras puras; plata refinada en horno de tierra, purificada siete veces. [7] Tú, Oh SEÑOR, las guardarás; las preservarás por siempre de aquesta generación.

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  @amosmgz Жыл бұрын

  For those of you who are confused: His point is that it would be best and most beneficial to understand "the Septuagint" not as a single-volume translation work done by "70 (or 72) elders," but instead as a wide collection of Greek translations/ and manuscripts that were in use and circlated before, around, and after the time of Jesus that were trying do justice to the original Hebrew text of the already-canonized Hebrew Bible (Old Testament)... Because that is how the New Testament writers would have understood "the Septuagint" back then.

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  @thelimatheou Жыл бұрын

  The Masoretic text was deliberately altered by Christ hating Jews. The fact that the Western churches base their Bible translations on this speaks volumes - their theology is corrupted.

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  @taxiarch Жыл бұрын

  To me, it's almost like saying we shouldn't say "The New Testament" because there is no "it" there is a "them"-an Alexandrian text family and a Byzantine text family, etc.

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  @Run2ChristLive Жыл бұрын

  Well the name new testament is synonymous with new covenant denoting the periods each testament covers, that being, covenental Israel and then the end of that with Christ bringing the new and better covenant.

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  @chriscurtis1578 Жыл бұрын

  Here are a couple of questions out of curiosity. Did the Jewish scribes responsible for the Masoretic Text accept Jesus as the Messiah or did they hate him? Did these scribes agree with the New Testament writings, or did they reject it? I have used the KJV for most of my life, but I have discovered things in it that bring confusion rather than clarity. The Septuagint does not do that. If these scribes were against the Church would it be reasonable that they might change certain verses to discredit Christ? I personally believe that had to have happened. Any thoughts on this. Anyone?

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  @latinboyyy305 Жыл бұрын

  That's exactly what happened, they set out to discredit him, and they continue to do so today.

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  @thefellowheirs11 ай бұрын

  Idk. These jews were willing to die for the preservation of their book. You think they'd corrupt their own writings?

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  @latinboyyy30511 ай бұрын

  @@thefellowheirs Which Jews are you talking about, the ones that accepted Christ or the ones that rejected him. Remember the first Christians were Jews, and they died to spread Christianity, and continue to die today, so dying for "their" book is not exclusive to Jews, and dying for a book is different than dying for Christ, one gives eternal life, the other gives you nothing, since it's a book and is therefore in animate object and without life. People have died for many things, causes, and other mortal beings, but none of those categories gives eternal life, so dying for Christ is the only thing worth dying for.

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  @thefellowheirs11 ай бұрын

  @@latinboyyy305 it doesn't matter does it? If they're jews who reject Christ but believe in the OT. And would die for the OT. Why would they corrupt their own word of God? I understand if they were involved in the NT but the tanakh being preserved through the masoretic text process would involve jews. And these jews were handling their text with extreme care. I agree everyone has died for their book. Muslims too. But would a Muslim corrupt the Quran to spite Jesus? Or would they just reject Jesus? That's how I'm viewing this masoretic text conversation. Devout jews rejecting Christ and willing to die for their OT doesn't sound like they'd corrupt it just to spite Christ. They'd just reject Him wouldn't they?

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  @chriscurtis157811 ай бұрын

  @@thefellowheirs why yes, I do think they corrupted their own writings. One thousand years before these writings certain Jewish Scribes and Pharisees gave false testimony at an illegal hearing under the cover of darkness to condemn an innocent man who just happened to be the promised Messiah. Falsely accusing someone is the same as lying and if you read the prophesies about Jesus in the Masoretic and then compare them to the Septuagint, they are different. I believe these scribes who re-wrote the Hebrew Bible knew full well who Jesus claimed to be, they had access to the New Testament writings of the miracles He performed, miracles that no other man has ever done yet they refused to believe even though the prophesies lined up with everything accomplished in Christ, so they tweaked certain passages to create doubt and confusion of just who Jesus was. They even went as far as calling angels sons of God in the book of Job when the Septuagint had always said angels of God. Our KJV and all western Bibles since the writing of the Masoretic Text call angels' sons of God which is a complete contradiction to Hebrews 1:5. I sincerely believe these scribes wanted people to believe Jesus was an angel and not the Son of God. They were aware of Gabriel's visit to Mary, and they couldn't deny the miracles Jesus performed, to many eyewitnesses so in their minds he had to be an angel. Now half of the Church believes that somehow fallen angels can transform themselves into humans, have sex with the daughters of men and create a race of hybrid giants. That is nothing more than a fable created to destroy the Deity of Christ. If angels can create life, then why did Jesus have to come and die on a cross, why not just use a sinless angel as the perfect sacrifice? Yes, I believe parts of the Masoretic Text is corrupt.

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  @veritas399 Жыл бұрын

  So people referred to the Greek translation of the OT as the translation of the 70 elders or differently than "Septuagint" as we refer to it today. ok, what does referring to the translation have to do with the quality of the actual translation?I am at 28:07 and have still not heard why he "does not believe in the Septuagint". . .

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  @repentofidols Жыл бұрын

  Isaiah 65:22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands. 2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat 2 Thessalonians 3:12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.