Hand Me Down Tech

Hand Me Down Tech

Re-use old tech for new uses. Save money buying used. With an extensive collection of videos centering on the HP EliteDesk 800 Mini PC.

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  • @wonkmisteriuz
    @wonkmisteriuzСағат бұрын

    can you test power consumption with watt meter?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntechСағат бұрын

    @@wonkmisteriuz of the monitors or the computer? I have the other video where I use the killawatt for the various models.

  • @wonkmisteriuz
    @wonkmisteriuzСағат бұрын

    @@handmedowntech with all monitor

  • @johnbowles4754
    @johnbowles47542 сағат бұрын

    Love it, got any spare ones 😊

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech2 сағат бұрын

    My problem is I just can't seem to get rid of that old tech 😉

  • @johnbowles4754
    @johnbowles4754Сағат бұрын

    @@handmedowntech there's nothing wrong with that, my wife thinks differently, carry on the great work.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntechСағат бұрын

    And here I thought I was unique 👍

  • @F0R6666
    @F0R66667 сағат бұрын

    WHY?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech5 сағат бұрын

    To answer a viewer's question on whether it could run 3 monitors 😉

  • @rockerforlife194
    @rockerforlife19420 сағат бұрын

    Great comparison! Nice job, HMDT.

  • @rockerforlife194
    @rockerforlife194Күн бұрын

    Looks like you got a good motherboard! Nice video as well, HMDT. 👍👍

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntechКүн бұрын

    @@rockerforlife194 thanks

  • @nashgich5315
    @nashgich5315Күн бұрын

    Will this work with non-NVMe SSDs but M.2 like say the WD blue ones?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntechКүн бұрын

    We're talking the two notched SATA m.2 drives?

  • @PineCoffee
    @PineCoffee2 күн бұрын

    How is the fan noise on these? I'm worried it might be too loud in a quiet room.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech2 күн бұрын

    @@PineCoffee at idle they are pretty quiet but if you start doing intensive work you definitely hear it since as you slow down the noise dissipates. But I also have two units running 247 and they are not distracting also though they mostly sit there.

  • @PineCoffee
    @PineCoffee2 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech Thanks for your reply. I was hoping to get one of these to replace my ITX machine, which is near silent. These fans are equivalent to laptop fans isn't it? The fans from my laptops can drive me nuts!

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech2 күн бұрын

    I was just comparing. Very similar, a bit taller. You do get the rev up sound when it has to do something more intense. My main unit is about 4 ft away. I would say it is not quite as annoying as a laptop.

  • @laelster
    @laelster4 күн бұрын

    Very nice video! I do have one question (if you still remember this vid hehe): I recently purchased a stock 35w version with an i5-6500T included. It ran perfect for a month before i decided to tinker and upgrade it with an i7-6700 (Non T; only reason I decided on this one was due to it being in the service manual.) I bought an upgraded power supply as well to compensate for the extra power draw, and it started throwing the 901 error (confused me for the longest time as to what it meant, but I have one on order now). However once it boots and comes under light load, it freezes up, and I have to restart the system only for the cycle to continue. Could this be due to thermals? My chassis didn't come with either the vents in the top or the secondary fan, although as mentioned earlier that fan is on the way. And if it is, would there be any way to rig those top vents?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech3 күн бұрын

    @@laelsteronly thing missing would be the copper heatsink. I did a video that compared the two kinds but that was using a T processor. I'm thinking with the non T a copper one is pretty much needed. What kind of temps are you getting?

  • @anghelitogames
    @anghelitogames4 күн бұрын

    can it support 3 monitors?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech4 күн бұрын

    You'd think that at a minimum it should give you 3 monitors for those 3 display ports. I want to see if I can use those and add 2 more via the docking station I use via the USB C port. Give me a couple days to test.

  • @daviddaniel1001
    @daviddaniel10015 күн бұрын

    What happens if you put an i7 6700k/7700k in an EliteDesk 800 G3 mini?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech4 күн бұрын

    @@daviddaniel1001 just to try it out you would need the 150w HP power adapter. The specs don't list that processor but it does share attributes with the T models. You would also need a hard core heatsink. Check out my video on putting a K model into the G5 and you'll see the special heatsink needed for that unit.

  • @daviddaniel1001
    @daviddaniel10012 күн бұрын

    About the fan, taking the top cover off, can't be put back on The whole fan needs to be replaced instead of gluing it

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech2 күн бұрын

    @@daviddaniel1001 seems to work ok. The top is not part of the working mechanism.

  • @USArmyVet91
    @USArmyVet915 күн бұрын

    Oh yes.. I built up a few of these "barebones" kits myself. Yeah the feeling of accomplishment is the biggest thing for me for sure. Kind of make it your own. Good stuff!

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech5 күн бұрын

    Thanks for tuning in. I've done normal sized PCs in the distant past but that can be a daylong affair - these EliteDesks give enough of a challenge but you still have time for other things :)

  • @user.A9
    @user.A95 күн бұрын

    How to physically support the 2230, since there is no standoff for the screw end of the 2230?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech5 күн бұрын

    @@user.A9 mine has one. Actually the G3 is the only one with a decent one. The G4 has some odd standoff.

  • @user.A9
    @user.A95 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech I had to use a stack of fiber washers.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech5 күн бұрын

    @@user.A9 for an EliteDesk 800 G3 Mini? Doesn't sound right.

  • @user.A9
    @user.A95 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech prodesk.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech5 күн бұрын

    I looked at a prodesk mobo and also my EliteDesk and they are the same. You're right. Not a proper standoff but it still works pretty good and is at least a standard sized screw hole as opposed to the G4

  • @datafeedexpert9172
    @datafeedexpert91725 күн бұрын

    Hey Dude it's Great Tutorial , Simply Life saving .....Hats Off Boss....

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech5 күн бұрын

    @@datafeedexpert9172 thanks!

  • @wonkmisteriuz
    @wonkmisteriuz6 күн бұрын

    test fan without case fan please 😂

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech5 күн бұрын

    @@wonkmisteriuz are you talking about the fan used with the caddy?

  • @wonkmisteriuz
    @wonkmisteriuz5 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech I watched this video and saw the fan casing opens when you touch it, I just want to know if the fan without casing is still effective

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech5 күн бұрын

    @@wonkmisteriuz unfortunately I glued it shut. It did work before I glued it though and most likely I could have left the top off but then the air would go all over the place.

  • @wonkmisteriuz
    @wonkmisteriuz5 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech do you have hp series 260 g3 mini? i plan to buy it

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech5 күн бұрын

    I don't have one but I was looking at the specs and it is very "entry level" - no USB C, Realtek port instead of Intel, and only two cores for the highest CPU. How were you thinking of using it?

  • @anisnafa3959
    @anisnafa39596 күн бұрын

    Depuis ma nessence

  • @anisnafa3959
    @anisnafa39596 күн бұрын

    J pas pc chez moi

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech6 күн бұрын

    Avec quelque chose d'aussi bon marché, vous pourriez en avoir un.

  • @snejksig
    @snejksig6 күн бұрын

    Добрый день, у мкня есть ProDesk 600 g2 mini,i5-6500T, какой максимальный процессор я смогу в него установить ?, спасибо.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech6 күн бұрын

    Вы должны иметь возможность использовать i7-6700T am4computers.com/Documents/4aa6-1279eee.pdf

  • @snejksig
    @snejksig6 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech Спасибо за быстрый ответ, а возможно ли установить 7е поколение интел ?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech6 күн бұрын

    Для этого вам понадобится G3.

  • @snejksig
    @snejksig6 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech спасибо, значит буду использовать как есть, на алиэкспрессе заказал модуль вайфай 6е с блютуз 5.3, для домашнего использования еще на долго хватит, еще раз спасибо

  • @ramongayo1032
    @ramongayo10327 күн бұрын

    BIOS DRIVER NVME UPDATE

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech6 күн бұрын

    @@ramongayo1032 not sure what that means.

  • @jbucata
    @jbucata7 күн бұрын

    Gotta wonder, with whatever the current prices on the older models vs the G4 are, how long it would take for the extra cost of the G4 to pay for itself in power savings. Depending on your local cost per kWh, a dirt-cheap G1 might still be cheaper in TCO for several years--unless the G4's themselves are all dirt cheap now as well. 😉

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech7 күн бұрын

    @@jbucata prices are always a bit weird. I've seen G4s all over the place. Sometimes in line with G5s. But I do agree that lower overall power usage might help to pay for itself.

  • @dogdooish
    @dogdooish7 күн бұрын

    Medical forceps are a real boon!! OK so they are metallic, but you can easily overcome that with a coat of epoxy!

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech7 күн бұрын

    @@dogdooish how would they be used with this G3?

  • @dogdooish
    @dogdooish7 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech They are great for grabbing the small plugs :) they are very good for pushing wires under the clips, also get a bent pair for putting smaller cards in place. I started using them with my RC aircraft and now since I've been messing with Electronics I still use them quite a lot. They also go by different types and names (also called a hemostatic clamp; arterial forceps; and pean, after Jules-Émile Péan)

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech7 күн бұрын

    @@dogdooish I will have to check those out. Amazon or medical supply house 😉

  • @Angry_Old_Man_In_Pain
    @Angry_Old_Man_In_Pain8 күн бұрын

    That gen will work fine but I like to buy gen 9 or higher, they are still excellent.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech8 күн бұрын

    Gen 7 is the highest for the G3

  • @artamador2325
    @artamador23259 күн бұрын

    Hello, thanks for sharing this video. I would like to ask Is this model of HP G3 or G4 Can run 24/7 if I am going to use as my firewall like PFsense? Thank you.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech8 күн бұрын

    Definitely, they are tough units made for the corporate world. You might look at my video on power consumption. Seemed like the G4 was a bit more efficient.

  • @dailylife8901
    @dailylife89019 күн бұрын

    That heatsink looks so cool.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech9 күн бұрын

    Pretty intense.

  • @dailylife8901
    @dailylife89019 күн бұрын

    Liked your test, I have one small question, is there a yellow light on the motherboard when you plug the power supply? I'm not sure if it's a normal thing or there's something wrong with my unit.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech9 күн бұрын

    I checked two G3s - when I attach the power a tiny light flashes momentarily - it is sitting next to a number "2" and near a small black chip

  • @dailylife8901
    @dailylife89018 күн бұрын

    @handmedowntech does that light stay on or goes away? My motherboard yellow light stays there, didn't notice until I removed the caddy to use an nvme and run the pc without the top lid.

  • @dailylife8901
    @dailylife89018 күн бұрын

    @handmedowntech by the way I have a g4 with a ryzen 3 2200ge, I did a case swap to get better ventilation, with some minor sacrifices of course since it's not a full motherboard to add an external power button.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech8 күн бұрын

    I'll try and do more testing this weekend

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech8 күн бұрын

    So the little mobo in a big case. Sounds crazy and inventive

  • @nephy8428
    @nephy842810 күн бұрын

    Just bougut a G5 thanks for all the information

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech10 күн бұрын

    Very welcome

  • @Natarajc346
    @Natarajc34611 күн бұрын

    Does it boot from wifi slot

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech11 күн бұрын

    @@Natarajc346 yes, you can boot from wifi slot

  • @Natarajc346
    @Natarajc34611 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech i have asus a32 k53 laptop, which slot and interface and which adapter should i buy, could you please help me that

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech9 күн бұрын

    Are you able to see how much space you have inside for an adapter to go into the wifi slot?

  • @Natarajc346
    @Natarajc3469 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech there is not much space, i found the wifi slot is mPCIe, with 8 pins on oneside and notch and around 25 pins on the other side, do you suggest i should use adapter or any mPCIe SSD(rarely available).

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech8 күн бұрын

    @@Natarajc346 if there isn't much space you could see if there are mPCI to NVME adapters and then use a 2230 SSD. Unfortunately I haven't played with any mPCI adapters.

  • @AFC19034life
    @AFC19034life11 күн бұрын

    I've just replaced the 8500t in my HP Elitedesk 800 G4 with an i5-9500. It's making a high pitched ringing noise when I assume it's processing tasks as it's intermittent. What could be causing this? Could it be a PSU problem? I'm using the 65W PSU I was given with it.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech11 күн бұрын

    If this is a 9500 and not a 9500t then HP would normally have it setup with the copper heat sink and the 90w psu.

  • @AFC19034life
    @AFC19034life11 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech ahh ok cheers. Just went and bought a 90W PSU off eBay. Are the heatsinks available do you know?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech11 күн бұрын

    @@AFC19034life I have seen them. You can tell from the picture since the outer edge is copper colored.

  • @chihmingkwan194
    @chihmingkwan19411 күн бұрын

    i put 9600t on g4,but can't boot

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech11 күн бұрын

    Any beeps?

  • @chihmingkwan194
    @chihmingkwan19411 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech 3 long 2 short

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech10 күн бұрын

    Memory issues. Try single sticks of memory to see which one might be a problem. Also make sure they are fully seated.

  • @chihmingkwan194
    @chihmingkwan19410 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech no,i tried,when i change 8100t back,all well

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech10 күн бұрын

    @@chihmingkwan194 have you tried the 9600t in any other computer?

  • @nunito2610
    @nunito261011 күн бұрын

    So 2 nvme 2280 on g5 is ok and only 1 nvme 2280 on g4, is that right?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech11 күн бұрын

    @@nunito2610 G4 and G5 are nearly identical so you can have 2 NVME on both

  • @rockerforlife194
    @rockerforlife19412 күн бұрын

    Hello, HMDT. Hey my HP Elitedesk 800 G1 USDT arrived with an Intel i7 4790S cpu. I have never owned or messed with an "S" series CPU before. Ever. After cleaning off the old hardened up thermal paste and a good cleaning then, new thermal paste and an good cleaning of the fans and everything else inside, it runs great! Now I'm trying to figure out which graphics card I can install that's better than the 4600 graphics installed. Hope you are doing well. Really enjoy your videos.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech12 күн бұрын

    @@rockerforlife194 that sounds fun. Always love getting new units and discovering what can be done with it.

  • @vkachale721
    @vkachale72113 күн бұрын

    hello sir new testing video hp hp elitedesk 800 g1 to g4 how to install external gpu

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech13 күн бұрын

    So attaching an external GPU using maybe a M.2 to mini PCI adapter?

  • @vkachale721
    @vkachale72113 күн бұрын

    hello sir new testing video hp hp elitedesk 800 g1 to g4 how to install external gpu

  • @vkachale721
    @vkachale72113 күн бұрын

    hello sir new testing video hp hp elitedesk 800 g1 to g4 how to install external gpu

  • @KuyaKuya-f5w
    @KuyaKuya-f5w13 күн бұрын

    do you know what card will work in the G1 that has WIFI plus Bluetooth, the one i have does not have bluetooth.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech13 күн бұрын

    Look for the Intel 8265NGW

  • @punishrs
    @punishrs13 күн бұрын

    I was wondering same thing. Thanks I’ll look for this.

  • @wonkmisteriuz
    @wonkmisteriuz14 күн бұрын

    bro can you test 2230 vs 2280 power consumption with this watt meter at idle and copy?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech14 күн бұрын

    I can't imagine much difference since they're running the same speed and also on the same interface. Are you trying to decide on using 2230?

  • @wonkmisteriuz
    @wonkmisteriuz14 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech yeah, if the 2230 reduces the power a bit maybe I'll use it

  • @vkachale721
    @vkachale72114 күн бұрын

    I am using 800 G3 i5 6500 Want to upgrade which cpu should be used can use 8/9 generation?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech14 күн бұрын

    @@vkachale721 you won't be able to upgrade since those use a newer chipset than the G3. You could do a i7-7700 or 7700t

  • @vkachale721
    @vkachale72114 күн бұрын

    Hallo sar I am using 800 G3 i5 6500 Want to upgrade which cpu should be used can use 8/9 generation?

  • @benwhite6786
    @benwhite678613 күн бұрын

    I'm sorry to tell you no. While 6/7/8/9 gen CPU's share the same 1151 lga socket, Intel changed something, in the socket if I remember right, between 7th gen and 8th gen. So hp 800 g3 can use 6/7 gen CPU's & hp 800 g4 can use 8/9 gen CPU's.

  • @ernestgalvan9037
    @ernestgalvan903714 күн бұрын

    The reason that second NVMe option interferes with the 2.5” caddy…. The battery holder is taller than a “standard” M.2 connector… so that second M.2 connector was picked as a taller model, IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE 2280 drive to clear it.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech14 күн бұрын

    @@ernestgalvan9037 I just cracked open my G4 and you're so right. The connector needs to be so friggin high to clear the battery. Always wondered why they did that. Does seem like a bit of a wonky decision that ultimately caused the loss of a drive.

  • @Yandarval
    @Yandarval14 күн бұрын

    The one watt, if configured, with be the Intel AMT. As the NIC has to be alive for it to work. If you have a full blown IPMI/iLO/iDRAC. That will pull around 5-10 watts when the machine is off. For busineses, the admin ease is worth the vampire draw.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech14 күн бұрын

    @@Yandarval interesting. I'm pretty sure at least one of those had the vPro remote stuff setup on it.

  • @SharkoonBln
    @SharkoonBln14 күн бұрын

    The difference between 0.9 and 1.0 watts while off is huge if you are a government agency or something like GM and run 10k of these things 24/7

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech14 күн бұрын

    @@SharkoonBln hadn't thought of it that way. Or the difference in sleep mode.

  • @downundergarage6968
    @downundergarage696815 күн бұрын

    Love these vids.. make me go out and buy more Elitedesks

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech15 күн бұрын

    @@downundergarage6968 thanks. Those units do make it hard to pass up.

  • @kenmorris2858
    @kenmorris285815 күн бұрын

    Great review. Can a 2nd ethernet port added to either for pfsense/opnsense?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech15 күн бұрын

    @@kenmorris2858 yes, check out my video on adding a second network port

  • @paulwarner5395
    @paulwarner539518 күн бұрын

    Thanx for the video but there are far easier ways to upgrade from Win 10 to 11 on non supported machines.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech17 күн бұрын

    @@paulwarner5395 such as?

  • @lonewolfsos
    @lonewolfsos18 күн бұрын

    Garbage product for brainlets

  • @Maestro_Longaniza
    @Maestro_Longaniza19 күн бұрын

    I did the same experiment with a g4 i7-8700t and had similar results. There was a 3-4 degree difference between the heatsinks, which was really disappointing. I've also enlarged the intake vents at the front cover and I didn't notice a difference. I like to add Tessa tape between the fan and the heatsink, between the heatsink and the case, and over the #2 screw void. I don't know if really makes a noticeable difference, but it creates a bit of duct like effect, lessening the amount of hot air that goes back into the system.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech19 күн бұрын

    All these different tapes out there. Duct, kapton, electrical, and now tesa, I'll have to check that out

  • @akjmusicstudio7493
    @akjmusicstudio749319 күн бұрын

    I modified hp 800 g3 to gaming pc with amd gpu add on and it's working really well i really like this pc for people poor like me stil can play mid end game with low budget

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech19 күн бұрын

    Interesting. What type of connectors, adapters did you have to add?

  • @akjmusicstudio7493
    @akjmusicstudio749319 күн бұрын

    @@handmedowntech i just use riser adapter

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech9 күн бұрын

    Is it a M.2 to PCI-E adapter?

  • @basicsteps
    @basicsteps19 күн бұрын

    I know Windows 11 doesn't support 7th gen and lower processors. So how did you get yours running? Also Microsoft will stop supporting windows 10 October next year. So if you're a windows user, you might not want to buy this.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech19 күн бұрын

    @@basicsteps I have windows 11 running on all of my units starting with the G1. I have some videos on using Windows 11 wit the old generation. My main day to day computer is a G3

  • @downundergarage6968
    @downundergarage696820 күн бұрын

    The only diff between the 8th and 9th are few 100 Mhz of clock speed.. no other difference at low to mid range. At high end they have added extra threads to combat AMD but you will not use these in the G3/G4.

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech19 күн бұрын

    Do you mean G4/G5? Didn't think those would work in a G3

  • @SyaelM
    @SyaelM20 күн бұрын

    what wifi card that compatible with mini pc HP Prodesk 600 G3 sir

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech19 күн бұрын

    Look for Intel 8265NGW - this will give Bluetooth and 802.11 AC

  • @saadtunio709
    @saadtunio70920 күн бұрын

    Is it possible to put nvme into wifi slot if space isn't the problem?

  • @handmedowntech
    @handmedowntech20 күн бұрын

    @@saadtunio709 sure, check out my two videos on using it with G1 to 3 and G4/5. Generally works best with 2230 Nvme since there are capacitors and such in the way but you can experiment with 2242, 2280, etc