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Could I be so bold as to advise the addition of a new adaptor , that could be connected to directors that are full of hot air ? They will be deflated and saves work for crew , whats not to love ?
To me its an LED Zip light....looks like the old fashion Mole 2K zip light...
no question, and Martin mentions the 1st gen prototype was in a scoop shape, even more like a zip. I think the significant difference here is the hard light option & with the multiple possibilities on the inlay surface in combo with front diff etc.
Thanks, very use-full review.
Love the interview & reveal of the inflatable wedge/book light. Thank you for the video too-much appreciated.
is the bi-color one twice as bright?
I like the inflatables as an idea but I struggle to imagine doing it graciously on set if you know what I mean. No matter how useful it may be it has the appearance of a blow-up pool toy sorta thing
Well all i can say is it's active on Mission Impossible 8, Gaffer Uwe Greiner, ICLS has use it on his show Nine Perfect Strangers, gaffer Bert Reyskens, ICLS has several on a french feature in the EU etc etc, so like most DOP Choice products it's working on top shows and it's only just started shipping... as Luke points out, this was def the year of inflatable products in general at Cine Gear and NAB... the real test will be the quality(s) of light and speed of application. It's certainly not for everything as Martin points out but it does (re)introduce a new and unique book light quality to a soft box which we've not previously had w/o creating a jungle of gear. I'm looking forward to testing it out on set in the coming months...
You make a great point and the more gaffers use it the less it will be seen as “clunky” application wise - had a couple bosses use inflatable tubes and apart from losing air over time have been successful. For small van operators the inflatable should offer more much needed real estate for other gear storage.
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where did you get the bounce ? one lighting you?
The one I moved into shot is the crls reflective light board from The LightBridge
@@GaffersSalon thanks a bunch
Can you double up diffusion on the pop-up? Or is there not enough velcro?
The pop up diffuser as it ships is a sewn in diffusion, I cut mine out and added Velcro. You could clip on added diff to oem version or if you add Velcro like i did you could use 1 inch Velcro around perimeter so you could use multiple layers of diff.
Perfectly predicted the market with the introduction of the infinimat
Great video question on the 2.0 version do all the cells come on or do they come on separately depending on what color temperature.
On both versions you have no independent control on the 8 cells… they are all controlled in unison.
Fantastic. This is exactly what I do with storyboards and the small crew of people I call for backup when things don't go as planned. I love this!
With so many choices available how do you dial in the right choice? Do you land on a best guess and discuss with your DP? (sorry for the basic question...I'm just getting into this field and found your channel incredibly useful) 🤘
my suggestion is to get the little demo 4x4 swatch book for opti sculpt - this is like $10 and has all 11 flavors. you can then test it on say a 150 dedo or a nanlite 60C w/ projection etc to get a feel for what each one does. Or if you spend $60 you can get the 7.5 x 7.5 inch test kit.
Brilliant work and a super insightful interview. I feel like these were very much in line with the 9.11 tribute doc that was on Natgeo a few years ago. Although that was shot with anamorphics I'm nearly sure. Really great work from Philipp and his team, and thanks for the great questions and insight.
excellent interview ! & the DP is something special ! congrats !!
What V mount battery would you recommend for powering this light. I was thinking about small rig but not sure what voltage.. thank you !
I use 26v from nanlite but any decent one will do either 14.4 or 26v these are duel voltage. However with 14v you are limited to 50% output… remember it’s a 200w light and draws even more - if I recall it’s actual max draw is around 240w, so you prob want a battery that’s higher watt hours like in the 250wh range…
Really insightful especially knowing the lighting package they were working with, thank you so much!
thanks was one of my favorites to date and had great time doing it. Really brilliant work.
@51:00 what does he say after "Home Depot"... A thousand H?
1000H aka tracing paper
These frames are absolutely incredible, particularly some of the wides like at 50:44. I wonder though, is your sound guy still booming in for a shot like this? Is it masked out in post?
The only thing I would add is a broken finger to be able to pan or tilt the small panel separately. Cheers.
100%
I would never do it. I'm actually trained electrician (but never worked in the practical part of it - except some house electrical upgrades). I even have a license :D. Still wouldn't do it :D. Seen some dead bodies who's done things wrong ...
Just WOW! So much usefull information. Thank you both!
How do you push more than a 1200 D through a light dome right in someone’s face and have it be tolerable for the talent for any length of time without them squinting?
I’ll ask DP if that was ever an issue
@@GaffersSalonThanks, I’d love his insight there!
@@JeffGrahamPhotography”Not really an issue. There are a couple of ways the subject can use to adjust/get comfortable with the brightness of the source. Have them close their eyes, then with closed eyes fully face straight into the source. Have them count to 10, then turn away from the source back to camera and open their eyes. That usually does the trick. Sometimes starting on a lower dimmer setting and during the first minute gradually bring it up to speed avoids the previous.”
@@GaffersSalonThank you for reaching out to him. I sacrificed some background exposure on a testimonial this week because I thought the key would be too bright for them. I’ll have to try this next time.
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Excellent stuff here!
This is great.
That was a great episode! Philipp's approach to this project was simple yet beautiful. Amazing what you can do with the right team and great imagination.
Thanks I really enjoyed doing this one
great content
Trying to figure out his key light. You mentioned a dome but he says he used an umbrella. Any clarification on that? Great intvw btw
I am pretty sure he just misspoke and they used either the large or small Aputure domes with LCD’s… but I can ask
All good. I got the gist :)
@@GaffersSalon yeah Ive also got confuse, trying to figure out his Key Light Light. Especially when he uses the 1200 and 600 together
Fantastic interview and thank you for raising awareness of what can be done with such a small lighting kit.
Question, what is the “whis screen” in place of expensive Duvetyne that he references?
Visqueen…It’s a roll of thick plastic sheeting you can buy at Home Depot or any hardware store. Cheaper and less weight than Duvateen.
In nyc we call black plastic sheeting, usually 6mm, Visqueen… you get in rolls at hardware store
@@GaffersSalon Thanks
@@ralphcradshack Thank you
Thanks for this!
Hey John. Great work, interview and insight. I felt the same way you did when I saw this episode. Shocking how quickly and sparsely these excellent looking interview were done.
Great I appreciate your videos. Very helpful to my style of production.
Inspirational Interview. Great look. Did he supervise the color grading? At 25 min in he says that he set the camera at 4400k and from what I understand the key was set at 5500k with 1/2 cto? Is that correct? Also why is the show runner making aesthetic decisions? Shouldn’t that be the director’s decision? I need to work with that show runner!
Just a guess but I’d bet the barn he supervised the grade. He mentioned making exposure decisions with post in mind and also mentioned painting out c-stands that were visible.
Thanks. very useful information from a pro gaffer
Excellent interview! When I saw this show I was immediately struck by the inspired compositions and elegant lighting. As a gaffer for 20 years and DP for almost as long - this is insightful & beautifully communicated. “Curating the frame…”. Love it! New subscriber here.
Roche, if I already own the spotlight max, but now I feel like going down the Nanlux route like 1200b 2400b etc. How do I go along with adapting the bowens to the NL mount. Is there an adapter out there?
So far I have not found one although Nanlux has been talking about making some: Nanlux to bowens and vice versa.
Would have been useful to know what effect these had on light intensity. tip: Use a tripod. 😉
Yeah this was EP1… no tripod. The transmission is >85% but results and effect will vary depending on the exact type of source… so didn’t care to dig into that any further; rather a broad and quick look at the basic optical properties of each opti sculpt. I did several episode and look at fresnels and even open face reflector dishes on cob… rosco cut it into this; spectrum.rosco.com/rosco-opti-sculpt-light-shaping-john-roche
@@GaffersSalon Well that's praise! 👍 85% is great! So that's about a stop, or maybe less, once spread out. You gave enough info for me to order a pack of 10⁰ (which gives quite a drastic effect - a 5⁰ would have been nice) and a swatch of samples. As you say, this is designed for theatre but it has a lot of potential uses for us. One for me is to put it on an on-camera light I have that's currently a little hot in the middle. Great channel you have. Always interesting to hear pros showing off their little secrets, and it's great how social media now enables this. I'm from the UK, so I'd never heard of NY, Las Vegas, or Chicago orientated apple boxes! Made me laugh. Nor a few other things. I'm most struck by how much lighting has changed since I started out in the 80s. All the best! 🙂
I clicked because I saw your thumbnail with Barbara Butcher. I watched the documentary a few weeks ago and thought the same thing. I did a few freeze frames to see the quality of the work. I wondered “who did this work?!”. Thank you for this interview.
“Interviews were FX9, Canon FD primes (spherical), BlackPromist 1/8 or 1/4” “B-roll Sony Venice, Kowa Anamorphic Recre Sony Venice, Xelmuse Apollo Anamorphics”
This is awesome, well done on the show, and great interview and insight from both!
Subbed, this is the kind of youtube channel that is needed for the film community. Thank you!
thank you.
Great review sir. Crazy how small/thin these lights are getting.
Yeah and now they’ve added a 4x1x 2x.5, and a 2x2!
Love this! Great conversation.
Thanks Luke, prob my favorite episode to date, really great work here…
How do you avoid making your subject squint when you point the 1200 + 600 on max output towards them for key light?
I wasn’t on this shoot… but off axis I’ve only had problems with a few older folks… it does happen but there are techniques to get them used to it, once in a blue moon some folks can’t handle it… but for me it’s been very rare that we couldn’t make it work. In those cases we sometimes go more sidey and bring in appropriate amount of fill and that usually solves it, but can deviate from the desired modeling or look… but often on docs we get someone who demands to be lit in a more flattering way (to them).
Thanks for this. Great stuff. Learnt lots. More like this please. So appreciated.
Such an amazing video! I love what he said about once the subject sits in front of the camera, it becomes "their space" and not intruding w/ technical adjustments. I have one question re: that statement though. When you're setting up your shot & lights with your sit-in subject prior to talent arriving...what sort of adjustments DO you allow for when the interview subject arrives and sits down? Is slight re-Framing to compensate for height differences on the table or do you plan for that ahead of time?
Def questions for the DP
Hey John! Great to see you! Thanks for this. Very thorough and thoughtful review. I was shopping the new Aladdin Mosaic series and have been seeing a lot online comparing the Aladdin 4x4 Mosaic with this unit. Im really struggling to understand the $6k price difference! This is great food for thought! Thanks for posting!
Hey buddy, yeah these are an exceptional value... (Travis wears even had a sale on them in his CKL group and i got a 2nd unit for $1350) and i upgraded both OEM LCD to ones from Grid2order.com out of the Ukraine for like $300/each. The color metrics i think on a lot of these various new mats are pretty much on par as to TM30/SSI/etc.... If you want to look closer at inshot DMX cue tests, Andrew does a good job in his review of the 600B: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X4qAy9KpfbeWh5s.htmlsi=vdGuaaJaaLJflPtW
Total banger, John! Great interview, breakdowns, discussion, all. Thank you. Excellent vid!
Thanks