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  • @itsthefool9454
    @itsthefool94542 күн бұрын

    Not even a hot take, wings make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs

  • @billsomebody4151
    @billsomebody41513 күн бұрын

    my take! PLEASE, PLEASE, JUST LET TYLER TALK, YOU CALL ON HIM FOR HIS OPINION, THEN YOU JUST CUT HIM OFF.

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod3 күн бұрын

    ...We do let him talk...

  • @RCAR77
    @RCAR773 күн бұрын

    You bridge Moe for 3 years to keep RFA and go long term for Raymond. Raymond Still has higher ceiling right now. With the way Raymond played in the last half of the season swayed to make more sense to sign him long term. But Ideal is long term for both.

  • @MyHandleShouldBeLessCharacters
    @MyHandleShouldBeLessCharacters3 күн бұрын

    Hot take/ shot in the dark prediction - Edvinsson struggles the first 50 games to get 20 points, then the last 32, something clicks, and he ends up near a PPG and ends up with 47 points this year. Then next year, he's a top 2 d man and gets 55-65 points with 10-15 goals in 2025-2026 and leads playoff scoring for defense on Wings. We get knocked out in the second round by Florida, We sweep Toronto in the first round and Steve Dangle gets a hernia from yelling.

  • @Blake-hh3fh
    @Blake-hh3fh3 күн бұрын

    I am thinking the Wings could have five 30+ goal scorers this season. Kane' Larkin' Raymond' DeBrincat and Taresenko. If Big Rass' Compher and Berggren can push near 20. Veleno and Copp should get atleast 15. Thats more goals than the forwards got last year right there! Forwards had 231 goals last year and I have 240 goals for with two more players to still contribute. I don't see us losing any offense.

  • @MachimimaRespawn
    @MachimimaRespawn3 күн бұрын

    Very optimistic. Would expect tarasenko low 20s, berggren and ras 12-15, veleno and copp closer to 10. The next step will come if debrincat and Raymond are closer to 40 than 30

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod3 күн бұрын

    @@MachimimaRespawn Ras would have hit 20 if he didn't miss games

  • @user-qs5mr1iw5c
    @user-qs5mr1iw5c3 күн бұрын

    Faber and Seider play similar roles. But Detroit is a 90 point team and should be in the playoffs easy. The wild is a bubble team with 87 points. I'm just saying Seider can lead the Wings into the playoffs.

  • @bvan5340
    @bvan53403 күн бұрын

    Hot takes- Danielson, Kasper centered by Copp on the 3rd line! Berggren doesn’t get a contract.

  • @bradymiller2852
    @bradymiller28523 күн бұрын

    and a fourth line of rasmussen veleno fischer? I could see kasper getting the call up but i think danielson needs more time in GR and I think putting rasmussen on the fourth line would be misusing him. Don’t disagree about berggren tho

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod3 күн бұрын

    @@bradymiller2852 3rd of Ras Copp Danielson would be great

  • @evansabourin8493
    @evansabourin84939 күн бұрын

    Uh Debrincat is 93. 🤦‍♂️

  • @ajmpatriot4899
    @ajmpatriot489910 күн бұрын

    Excellent points made by all regarding Mo and Razor contracts. I am not very knowledgeable about this stuff and was very curious about this subject. You laid it out nicely. We shall see. 🤔

  • @dack400
    @dack40011 күн бұрын

    I think based on what’s left of the cap, it’s pretty clear at least Raymond or seider will bridge, might get one of then for 8 years, but probably not both

  • @Kieva_Storm
    @Kieva_Storm11 күн бұрын

    By avoiding arbitration, they open a buyout window. Probably Ville Husso, to be honest.

  • @justinshields3819
    @justinshields381911 күн бұрын

    Do you guys think that Husso will get bought out now that Detroit earned an extra buyout window?

  • @jackconrad2667
    @jackconrad266711 күн бұрын

    Depends on if yzerman has another deal on the way

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod11 күн бұрын

    I don't see a reason to go into the season yet again with 3 goalies even though Yzerman says that's the plan. He would be probably my first choice.

  • @jackconrad2667
    @jackconrad266710 күн бұрын

    @@GrindLinePod well we will find out soon enough. Isn’t that buyout period now or tomorrow

  • @joesantangelo1
    @joesantangelo111 күн бұрын

    Completely overreact to Veleno’s contract. If cap space needs to be made, it will be made. I don’t think we have to worry about anything lol.

  • @seanjulian9068
    @seanjulian906811 күн бұрын

    I feel like Tyler doesn't talk at all. Then chimes in with random thoughts he has.

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod11 күн бұрын

    @@seanjulian9068 he's been playing too much College Football, not enough time to keep up. 🤣

  • @brianpowers3742
    @brianpowers374211 күн бұрын

    Stevie seems like a 'last minute' kinda guy

  • @Mrwingsfan40
    @Mrwingsfan4011 күн бұрын

    Bergren hasn't proven he's worth much.

  • @T-Will-4554
    @T-Will-455411 күн бұрын

    He hasn't had the chance. They threw him on a line with horrible linemates and limited minutes, and still did really good his first season. Only played 12 games last year and scored 6 points. Roughly a .5 points per game player. Imagine if he played with a 2C. He's FAR better than Veleno and Rass, probably put together. Also better than Copp and Fischer.

  • @garyvandecar2580
    @garyvandecar258011 күн бұрын

    Berggren isn't getting more than 1x1

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod11 күн бұрын

    @T-Will-4554 they aren't comparable. His defensive lapses make him a liability playing in the top 6 right now. If he can improve defense just a little he'll be a fine 3rd liner.

  • @T-Will-4554
    @T-Will-455411 күн бұрын

    @GrindLinePod I'm talking about offensive potential between forwards. Centers and wingers alike. There are quite a few defensive liabilities on this team right now in the bottom 6. Might as well go with the higher scoring defensive liability lol He's nowhere near reaching his full potential. They need to trade him or keep him up, he's WAY too good for GR.

  • @Mrwingsfan40
    @Mrwingsfan4011 күн бұрын

    Copp hasn't turned out to be what the pay him for. He's gotta get traded.

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod11 күн бұрын

    It would be a near impossible contract to trade unless you ate half the salary.

  • @brianpowers3742
    @brianpowers374211 күн бұрын

    @@GrindLinePod and they are STLL paying for Abdelkader til 2026!!!

  • @brendenmoan13
    @brendenmoan1312 күн бұрын

    Uhm Tyler...Tarasenko cant pick 93, Cat has it lmao.

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod12 күн бұрын

    Tyler not paying attention.

  • @seguinryan
    @seguinryan12 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the episode guys! I feel like people forget about intangibles in signings like this. At face value you see a slight overpay (even just from analytically i don't see it) but people REALLY forget the fact that this signing gives us two years (instead of one year he would have received in arb) plus he still remains under team control as RFA in two seasons. I still feel like Veleno can take another step. He can be a 15 goal (35pt) guy, that will eventually be apart of the mentor group for young prospects. He'll play 4C and PK2 and do fine at this AAV for us.

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod11 күн бұрын

    Thanks for listening! I agree about Veleno's status but in time I Think he is easily replaced by even someone like Emmitt Finnie.

  • @JambiPot
    @JambiPot11 күн бұрын

    ​@@GrindLinePoddo you think Finnie projects to be an NHL centerman? That feels a bit optimistic to me.

  • @dj4aces
    @dj4aces12 күн бұрын

    It feels really odd to see people saying Veleno's deal is an overpay when his performance was comparable to Rasmussen's performance at ~$1m less. Veleno's deal is fine. We're gonna sign Seider and Raymond, and still have cap space regardless of whether or not we sign Berggren.

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod12 күн бұрын

    I don't see them having any more than 1m left over if that. And Rasmussen is a much different player than Veleno. Consistent and far more reliable.

  • @jackconrad2667
    @jackconrad266711 күн бұрын

    Valeno was a slight overpay. Rasmussen uses his body more. But valeno deal wasn’t horrible either

  • @travismcgrath1373
    @travismcgrath137311 күн бұрын

    Rasmussen is so much better than Veleno it’s not even close

  • @jakerux6092
    @jakerux609212 күн бұрын

    Yzerman is forced to make a trade if he can’t get Mo & Raymond below $8.33M AAV.

  • @seguinryan
    @seguinryan12 күн бұрын

    They will likely both sign for less than that. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a slight delay because they're finalizing AAV on LT deals.

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod12 күн бұрын

    @@seguinryan I'd be shocked if Seider took less than 8.5m.

  • @seguinryan
    @seguinryan12 күн бұрын

    @@GrindLinePod he would have to sign a bridge deal then, which would kind of be unfortunate. It would be a dream come true if him a Ray took team friendly contracts. Even if we signed Ray at 8m per and Mo at 8.275m i would love that!

  • @gavinmarion91
    @gavinmarion9114 күн бұрын

    Who says no.. To Detroit - Rasmus Andersson To Calgary - 2026 1st, Justin Holl, Anton Johansson, Jakub Rychlovský, Dylan James

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod13 күн бұрын

    Not sure you need to give them that many assets.

  • @gavinmarion91
    @gavinmarion9113 күн бұрын

    @@GrindLinePod I'd probably agree.. But Dumping Holl and getting their best defenseman at 4.5M for 2 years.. Feel like you need to over pay a bit. I just threw in Dylan James because he's from Calgary.. We have the deepest prospect pool in the league. They can't all fit into a lineup.. Might as well trade some of them, while they have value and upgrade the team.

  • @Gameviewsblog
    @Gameviewsblog14 күн бұрын

    14:50 ironically they don't need all that much luck. Patrick Kane had THE worst takeaway-to-giveaway ratio of all forwards on the wings last year. I haven't checked because I know he didn't have the most giveaways (close though), but I'd be fairly certain he has the highest giveaways per minute on ice. I mean, just look at the first AZ game, a bunch of AHL'ers just freely skating up to Kane and picking his pocket every time he had it. He's terrible at protecting the puck 9 out of 10 times, but that one time he'll do an incredible protect so you forget the bad ones. He will sit behind the circle just halting play for ages though, especially on power plays he'll just stand there for long stretches doing nothing, and that's how his possession goes up. Seriously, just go watch a few of his games, pay very close attention to Kane, and tell me I'm wrong.

  • @jennifermorris9985
    @jennifermorris99856 күн бұрын

    You would be wrong. Kostin had the highest, then Edvinsson, then Maatta, then Holl, then Larkin, and THEN Kane. If you are just looking at the PP he is second to Copp.

  • @stevemcevilly6762
    @stevemcevilly676215 күн бұрын

    My first memory of being a wings fan is during the 02 playoffs I was in elementary school and we had a fair going on during game 7 against the avs and one of the teachers would come out and announce every goal on a bill horn and everyone would go nuts I just remember people started to not believe her when she said it was 5-0 and then we ended up winning 7-0, I started watching nearly every game of the year once I started getting more time in 2021 when I was living in Seattle and only had a few friends who were also wings fans in the area

  • @koreans1984
    @koreans198415 күн бұрын

    They could trade petry for a bag of funyuns and stevie y would win that trade

  • @jacobc548
    @jacobc54816 күн бұрын

    My wife started watching the wings when we started dating 10 years ago. She started out as a casual fan. But me being the die hard I am.. she got sucked right in watching Datsyuk. She LOVED Datsyuk lol she is now a die hard as well and has her new loves of Larkin and Seider.

  • @RCAR77
    @RCAR7718 күн бұрын

    Trouba not happening cause of the the no trade clause lol but as for if there where to trade for him you would definitely have New York retain rather then sending holl to them This still allows you to trade holl with assets to free cap space. If not you stuck with trouba full contract

  • @willsmithmachine5244
    @willsmithmachine524421 күн бұрын

    I would sign Berggen to a 3 year extension - higher AAV, but he's still an RFA after that contract which is great. We know that Berggen produces offensively and this year he would very likely get a regular spot in the Top 9. Could be a steal of a contract if he produces like in 22-23.

  • @nolan13075
    @nolan1307523 күн бұрын

    Did people just not pay attention to Danielson turning the puck over like a prime Mark Sanchez?

  • @pjdaddio
    @pjdaddio23 күн бұрын

    Very similar lines. I had ... Raymond, Larkin, Terasenko Debrincat, Compher, Kane Berggren, Danielson, Rasmussen Motte, Copp, Fisher Veleno

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod23 күн бұрын

    I just struggle taking Cat off the Larkin line since he was really good there.

  • @user-ok6sw7xe5c
    @user-ok6sw7xe5c23 күн бұрын

    2 rookies on the 3rd line is bold, I think the hope is that Motte will play himself into a 3rd line role with Ras at center so the 4th line can have Coop/Fish as the center wing combo, gives the winger spot on the 3rd and 4th line up for grabs then with flexibility to move Ras to wing to try out Danielson…if the rookies can outplay Veleno/Fish/Copp and other bottom forwards, that’s a good problem to have

  • @coyote8198
    @coyote819823 күн бұрын

    The Tigers won again 10-1 yesterday.

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod23 күн бұрын

    Go Cats!

  • @robertwinkler8444
    @robertwinkler844423 күн бұрын

    I like you guys, you're way better than others around here👍🏻👍🏻

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePod23 күн бұрын

    Appreciate it!

  • @theskatebus1687
    @theskatebus168723 күн бұрын

    What if Terrasenko, Kane and Raymond all play RW, and they try and roll 3 balanced lines? I could see them trying it, and while there's definitely ways to make it work, my bet would be Lalonde screws it all up

  • @Gkett883
    @Gkett88323 күн бұрын

    Buy petry out

  • @shaunstinnett8446
    @shaunstinnett844623 күн бұрын

    Both 4th rd pics are traded. One team gets the earlier. One gets the latter.

  • @briansmith3480
    @briansmith348023 күн бұрын

    Copp? You are smoking hash!

  • @thewizardofoz511
    @thewizardofoz51123 күн бұрын

    What are you referring to?

  • @koreans1984
    @koreans198423 күн бұрын

    Trade petry to priority waste for future considerations

  • @slaybomb96
    @slaybomb9623 күн бұрын

    Petry has a NTC

  • @jacobc548
    @jacobc54823 күн бұрын

    Didnt Trouba put Detroit on his No trade list? Thought rumors of Trouba to Detroit were dead.

  • @DefectiveSquash
    @DefectiveSquash23 күн бұрын

    Really want these guys to trade for ekblad, or another top 4 RHD

  • @sens_outlook
    @sens_outlook23 күн бұрын

    45:11 I feel the same way about the Chychrun trade. We lost offense (which Chabot can bring but can he be healthy) but brought in a better defensive presence in Jensen (regressed a bit last year but was still better defensively than Chychrun) which balances out our D more. I think the Sens have a few issues with their roster too, especially since Perron and Amadio prefer to play RW (I liked Amadio down the middle with Vegas so I hope they put him there) and Perron can HOPEFULLY be the 3RW instead of praying he can be a 2LW (its possible but super unlikely). It really feels like both our teams are close but its a matter of finding the right guys and balancing the roster which I think both teams have done really well so far

  • @a.N.....
    @a.N.....23 күн бұрын

    hard to wait for nate danielson, he shined in the prospect tourny.

  • @Around-the-fur__
    @Around-the-fur__23 күн бұрын

    Tarasenko is gonna be as good or better defensively as Perron was.. guaranteed

  • @Around-the-fur__
    @Around-the-fur__23 күн бұрын

    @@slaybomb96 If you were responding to me.. my point was about how bad David Perron was defensively, it shouldn't be too hard to be better than him on defense.

  • @TheMexinadian
    @TheMexinadian23 күн бұрын

    The Jeff Petry Disrespect is unforgivable

  • @a.N.....
    @a.N.....23 күн бұрын

    hes ok but a dcore to push for a playoff spot let alone the cup is hard to see.

  • @thewizardofoz511
    @thewizardofoz51123 күн бұрын

    And why do you think they're "disrespecting" him?

  • @joshburton5724
    @joshburton572420 күн бұрын

    Did you watch last season? The guy is a parking cone on the blue line

  • @BranNew1
    @BranNew127 күн бұрын

    Wings are not any better Defensively.. they’ve made less than lateral moves and will have an injection from Ed

  • @talex001
    @talex001Ай бұрын

    Not sure if the Wings raised the ceiling a lot - could be great or a wash but I think their floor is better looking than last season, they should be right there at the end if they get a good start.

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePodАй бұрын

    Agree, which is why you need Nate in case Larks goes down.

  • @shaunstinnett8446
    @shaunstinnett8446Ай бұрын

    Go back and watch Kane's return to Chicago and watch the overtime goal. Kane pushed Walman out of the way during his celebration and there was a look on his face I won't forget. That's when Walman started going downhill in my opinion.

  • @jeffwalker5514
    @jeffwalker5514Ай бұрын

    This kind of content is why I’m on KZread. 🙌

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePodАй бұрын

    The outdoor hockey talk you never knew you needed 😂😂

  • @dynjarren5454
    @dynjarren5454Ай бұрын

    Dude stop advertising off the bat and I'll come back to the channel. Til then, it's all THG

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePodАй бұрын

    Advertiser required it rerolled, nothing I can do about it. It's done next week though.

  • @leonidas7281
    @leonidas7281Ай бұрын

    This show is so much better than that locked on redwings dork. Thanks for the content

  • @dominator9059
    @dominator9059Ай бұрын

    You guys are the kings of putting out episodes right before big news lately haha

  • @GrindLinePod
    @GrindLinePodАй бұрын

    Blessing and a curse😂😂