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  @0fficialdregs30 минут бұрын

  big boy vs yellowstone vs alleghany

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  @0fficialdregs36 минут бұрын

  I'm happy af that I have a 2-8-8-4 :D looking for a second N scale locomotive

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  @Bugsworth47 минут бұрын

  Enjoyed thar but could do without the crazy arcade noises under the voice. Thank you....

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  @benjaminstorace66992 сағат бұрын

  "steep grades"? "Minnesota and Wisconsin"? My visible confusion when those places are not known for serious elevation differences

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  @DavidKehley2 сағат бұрын

  Imagine making a consist of the Yellowstone Bigboy challenger and 844

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  @markthomas64363 сағат бұрын

  The Big Boy generated 135,000 lbs. tractive effort, and the Yellowstone 140,000 lbs. The C&O's Allegheny produced 148,000 lbs. The Norfolk & Western's Y6b, with booster, generated 152,000 lbs.!

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  @Mishn03 сағат бұрын

  Not stated, but the reason why the DM&IR didn't use the Yellowstones in the winter was that the ore ships were iced in and couldn't deliver the ore to the rail head.

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  @christopherwagner23955 сағат бұрын

  Great video. Too bad more attention was not given to the correct pronunciation of Duluth. For local people a bit of a laugher

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  @FanRailer7 сағат бұрын

  If we’re gonna be making numbers comparisons like this, best get a better understanding of what those numbers mean in real life. Yes, the DMIR engines have more rated tractive effort than the Big Boys do, but the difference is minimal (140k lbs vs 135 k lbs). That means the maximum tonnage both locomotives could start and pull on the same gradients was also quite similar. Indeed, a DMIR M-3/4 would be rated for ~2,300 tons on a 2.2% hill while a UP 4000-class would be rated for ~2,200 tons, a difference of only 100 tons or so, the equivalent of about 4 unloaded cars from that era of railroading. Where the Big Boys outshine the DMIR Yellowstones is in their general purpose design. The Yellowstones had smaller drivers (63 inches vs 68 inches) and thus had a lower top speed and achieved maximum drawbar horsepower at a lower speed as well (both were rated for about 6,000 hp). The Big Boys could take the same tonnage that the DMIR engines could and accelerate that tonnage to a higher speed. In short, the UP Big Boys could show up on the DMIR and perform the same work that the Yellowstones were doing without much additional difficulty, but the reverse cannot be said about the DMIR engines. Yes, the Yellowstones would have handled Wasatch grade and Sherman Hill as well as the Big Boys, but would have fallen flat on the Wyoming plateau, territory where the Big Boys could take the same 4000-5000 ton trains they dragged up the hill and accelerate them up to 55-60 mph.

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  @isaidholla40888 сағат бұрын

  Mallet #227 is at my work and this video has been the talk of the depot, love it!!

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  @Towerofterrorfan2110 сағат бұрын

  I actually remember when Big Boy 4014 met DMIR 227 (Sorta). During the Big Boy's race across the Midwest, it would stop at the Lake Superior railroad museum for their festival of steam event. While DMIR 227 and 4014 never interacted, they were in the same location for 2 days. I was fortunate to attend this event, and I have even seen all 3 remaining Yellowstone locomotives. 227 is at the Lake Superior railroad museum. 229 is at the Two Harbors Depot. And 225 is next to a high school in Proctor, Minnesota.

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  @alicehodges996411 сағат бұрын

  Picture?

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  @cliffwoodbury531913 сағат бұрын

  I was so enamored when the Big-Boy was rebuilt (i still am) and there are sights that say they are they largest steam engines, but there are a few sights that say the Alleganys are the largest engines ever. Either way I didn't know about the "Yellowstones" back then and now I am so interested in this steam engine, and it may be my favorite.

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  @theimaginationstation189914 сағат бұрын

  Pound feet of tractive effort....?

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  @thebritishengineer802714 сағат бұрын

  ....is that Doom playing in the back ground...???

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  @redengine443315 сағат бұрын

  oh god thats a big ass boy, he barelly fits on the turn table without his tender really putting into perspective how big the big boy really is

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  @marklowe808717 сағат бұрын

  Back in 90 I had a tour of the engine shed in Kimberly,the 26,Red Devil was there. Very impressive machine. The mechanic explained the running gear and most everything could be kept going for ever,make the parts. The boilers have a life,only so much can be done and that's what kills them.

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  @fishyerik18 сағат бұрын

  Tractive effort can be expressed as pounds-force. Pound-feet can refer to torque, which is rotational force, which by itself doesn't tell you anything very useful.

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  @dark_one133718 сағат бұрын

  the fun thing is meanwhile the People always debate about who's the biggest,most powerful and what it was ment to do hauling heavy or fast UP Bigboy N&W Y6 DM&IR / B&O Yellowstones C&O / Virgina Alleghenies Bear in mind the Largest EVER build was a 2-10-10-2 for the Virgina so large it had to be partly dismantled to even get transported to Virginia. and then think about the Pennsylvania Q2's the strongest Messured Steamengine ever been on a Dyno Going well past 55mph while hauling a heavy train.

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  @therailfanman207820 сағат бұрын

  I almost got an HO yellowstone, but my empty wallet told me no. One day ill get one, one day...

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  @northdetroit799421 сағат бұрын

  TT

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  @G-Cole-0122 сағат бұрын

  he eat

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  @davidchapman151922 сағат бұрын

  The big boy is 5th or 6th in power. No where near the top of the list. Not even In the ballpark

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  @Tony-46523 сағат бұрын

  Another interesting one that worked on the DM&IR were the 0-10-2 Union types built originally for the Union Railroad in Western Pennsylvania. They were called the largest steam switchers ever built.

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  @traviscovington429423 сағат бұрын

  Big boys top speed is 80 btw

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  @australiasindustrialage68923 сағат бұрын

  What about the N & W A and Y6s?

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  @FS2K4PilotКүн бұрын

  American railroads have always preferred assigning bigger locomotives over assigning more locomotives, because it was almost always cheaper.

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  @C.I...Күн бұрын

  Great video, but I think tractive effort is measured in just pounds, not pound-feet. Pound-feet is a measurement of torque, whereas tractive effort is a pure force exerted measurement. I cannot fathom the size of the engines - when you said 5ft3in drive wheels and I saw them look small, I thought to myself that standing lineside as one of these goes past must have been like watching a building fly by.

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  @Chango_MaloКүн бұрын

  the UP 4000's aren't the longest, heaviest, or most powerful steam locomotives ever built. But good luck find a single locomotive that tops the 4000's in two of those metrics.

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  @martinanschutz74104 сағат бұрын

  N&W Jawn Henry: heavier, longer and more tractive effort. C&O M1: longer, heavier and faster C&O alleyghenys: first ones are heavier by some pounds and more horse power

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  @nssrrailfan6443Күн бұрын

  Thank you for featuring our locomotive! The Lake Superior Railroad Museum thanks you! The LSRM recently made a video on these engines too, and I was the star! Yellowstones likely won't be coming back, and the LSRM certainly won't be restoring ours. If we have a huge rich person to buy out one of the 3 engines, then CN might run it, as CN owns the DM&IR.

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  @AustriantrainguyКүн бұрын

  Engerth-Locomotive

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  @alexbaxter9512Күн бұрын

  I think the main reason for keeping steam locomotives was due to embargoes on the then apartheid south Africa. They had lots of coal but no oil. I was in Durban in the late 70s and Garrett locomotives were being used for shunting. Impressive, but maybe not too efficient..

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  @harrisonallen651Күн бұрын

  The Powerful Boy

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  @Toyota--CamryКүн бұрын

  They drove a locomotive a thousand feet down a slick road under its own power?? That’s seriously impressive

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  @garryferrington811Күн бұрын

  I don't remember the tractive effort on the Virginian's 2-10-10-2's, but they were extremely powerful, albeit slow.

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  @lukechristmas3951Күн бұрын

  Let's not forget that a Big Boy No. 4014 did visit Duluth, Minnesota back in 2019.

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  @lukechristmas3951Күн бұрын

  I'm just gonna leave this here kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6Nqm9FmepvHkrw.html Okay, so I can't stay quiet if this is going to be the video for this week. The DM&IR are probably the most loved steam engines in the State of Minnesota after Milwaukee Road S-3 No. 261 and I am a fan of them myself as I've visited the Lake Superior Railroad Museum a few times. The fact that all three are preserved at home where they worked is probably something to brag about. Thank you for covering these Missabe Monsters. It gives the Minnesotans and the iron ore railfans alike something to unite over and show the world what was so special about the Minnesota Iron Range. Anyone who is not from Minnesota, and especially out of the country, be amazed!

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  @jz6350Күн бұрын

  Just in case you have to say it again in the future, most folks say it " D'looth ". We've got lots of bastardized French and native placenames, in the US and Duluth is one. (Not a complaint, just a tip!)

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  @brenlc1412Күн бұрын

  “That boy is our biggest engine.” “No. There is another.”

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  @colestrains1Күн бұрын

  Let’s also not forget about N&W’s Y6B class of locomotives. The last of mainline steam

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  @cris_26123 сағат бұрын

  If I remember correctly, the Y6B was stronger than Big Boy and DM&IR's Yellowstones.

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  @colestrains121 сағат бұрын

  @@cris_261 it absolutely was! 2156 (last of the Y6 class) is the most powerful steamer still in existence

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  @robertweldon7909Күн бұрын

  There is always debate as to what locomotive is biggest, strongest, and so on. One locomotive, often overlooked was the Virginia's 2-10-10-2's They too were monster locomotives. I may be wrong, but I believe that the 2-10-10-2's still hold the record for tonnage haul by a single locomotive. They had very small drivers, allowing for huge tractive effort, but were very slow. It was said that the engineer could get the engine running at full speed, climb out of the cab, run to the front, climb back on the engine and control the thing from the front, by an auxiliary throttle. There is a book about the Virginian (I can't remember the author), where they tell the story of the 2-10-10-2"s. Nice video. The DM&IR 2-8-8-4's are also often overlooked too, mostly because of Big Boy's. ;-)

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  @richardconnor2871Күн бұрын

  OH! Hey! I drive by one of these on display in Proctor any time I go down to Duluth to visit my friend :D Also, just cuz it made me laugh a few times, "Duluth" Is pronounced "Doo-looth" with the accent on the 2nd syllable

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  @ArutaxКүн бұрын

  I think an honorable mention should go to the Soviet P38 Articulated Locomotive, which featured the same 2-8-8-4 Yellowstone Wheel Arrangement, and had a unique Semi-Streamlined Casing.

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  @ManwholikestrainsКүн бұрын

  So you just said that the big boys are the literal biggest locomotives but the Yellowstones are the most powerfull there’s a difference

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  @CrossOfBayonneКүн бұрын

  The B&O also had Yellowstones the EM1s, They were built during World War II to help the war effort by Baldwin in 1944 and were all retired by the late 50s

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  @PyrotrainthingКүн бұрын

  Would be a feat to see a Yellowstone restored, and have it meet with 4014. I doubt there'd be many places to run it though unless you paired it with freight trains on mainline.

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  @johnhelton8756Күн бұрын

  N&W Y6B the best of the big engines. Just like the N&W Class A is the best of the Challenger types. And of course the Class J the best of the Niagara types 🚂🇺🇲

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  @amansgrangard6208Күн бұрын

  Shoud we say the Yellowstone is the second to best then Big boy ?

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  @DragonStar524Күн бұрын

  I'd say these two engines are pretty evenly matched.

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  @thomasdeturk5142Күн бұрын

  Big Boys are part of the Great Plains in the Rocky Mountains