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SICKNOTE  live  15/May/2008

SICKNOTE live 15/May/2008

AS MAGICK DECAYS

AS MAGICK DECAYS

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acid mothers temple

BUGAIL REAPER

BUGAIL REAPER

MIND CONTROL

MIND CONTROL

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  • @realmisteranderson
    @realmisteranderson16 күн бұрын

    THIS SUCKS

  • @OlafProt
    @OlafProt21 күн бұрын

    The miners strike was a grinding, shocking, dreadful metaphor, for the reality of what Thatcher did to this entire country, top to bottom. And we're still paying the price, North, South, East or West. As someone that grew up in Surrey, I knew nothing of what these communities went through, and the news and the government just made them out to be trouble makers, moaning union trouble makers. Having left Surrey in 1993, and grown up, I now know how horrendous this was, and the lies. As someone said below, you wouldn't treat dogs like these people were. I blame no-one but her, Thatcher, for the state this country is in now. I'm not religious, but that woman was the devil. This wasn't "just jobs / just industry / modernisation" this was entire communities, lives, ways of living. indefensible. Selling the country's soul and assets in its desperate desire to be America, and push capitalism. Now we're are on a road to nowhere. When its all out of living memory, when we're all long gone, I hope history's books actually see what that harridan of a Prime Minister, and her henchmen, did. Her quote at 22:08 Using soldiers lives as a comparison. What a scumbag.

  • @TheHeavyend81
    @TheHeavyend814 күн бұрын

    As you say you know nothing of what these communities went throuth from sunny Surrey. My whole family were miners in 84 in the Cynon Valley and I was a Policeman in Lllanishen at the time and worked the whole of the strike both in Cynon Valley, Port Talbot and up North, so you can imagine the conversations we had around meal times etc. I would see them at the weekend and on Monday we were literally enemies. I sympathised with them every step of the way and it was hard and painful to see it all and be right in the middle of it. I also played rugby for South Wales Police at the time and the animosity very often carried over onto the rugby field and was brutal at times, but rugby being rugby we shook hands at the end. There is always two sides to a story (regarding treatment and abuse of each other at ground level around the Picket lines) and I was almost every day on both sides of it. In reality though how much longer would the pits have lasted bleeding money at a huge loss, especially with cheaper coal being brought in to the country from Eastern Europe and even from as far away as Australia. If it wasn't Maggie Thatcher it would have been someone else (even a Labour Government would have done the same). Jobs for life and filling your slot with your children was never going to happen in a modern world. Coal mining was becoming evermore dangerous, unpopular and unsustainable. Colliery workers were the most hardest working men in the country and no one will deny that. Can you imagine trying to get the bone idle teenagers these days to go down a pit, most cant even get out of bed. Even society attitudes were beginning to change and the inevitable had to come sometime. I can remember my parents always saying to me as a child in the 60's they would never let me go down the pits. I saw what it did to my father (Deep Duffryn Colliery) and step father (Lady Windsor Colliery), both now passed as a result of dust in the lungs. The decimation of communities, not only in Wales it caused at the time is still felt but I would confidentially say that not one miner around today would want to go back down a pit and certainly wouldn't want their children to do the same.

  • @OlafProt
    @OlafProt4 күн бұрын

    @@TheHeavyend81 thanks so much for sharing this with me. Every day is a school day and i appreciate when someone responds to me in the way you have. I am the very definition of white privilege (not that we were in any way wealthy, financially), but I suppose I shouldn't trash myself simply because my accident of birth. But its really important to me to understand what happened. My sister lives in an ex mining community in West Yorkshire and she to this day would encounter some mistrust as a southerner, so deep is the hurt. I wonder what the alternative was, was it ever going to be modernized to an acceptable level? You're right that if it wasn't Thatcher it would've been someone else. But it was done in such a demeaning, brutal fashion.Shocking times, reported with such bias.

  • @MarkHarrison733
    @MarkHarrison7332 ай бұрын

    Scargill began a fight he could not win.

  • @1122geoff
    @1122geoff2 ай бұрын

    Treated worse than animals , the miners were

  • @MarkHarrison733
    @MarkHarrison7332 ай бұрын

    They started an illegal strike in a deliberate attempt to bring down the elected government.

  • @ThePixey1000
    @ThePixey10005 ай бұрын

    Labour are the same as the Tories you should check out their policies We should all be voting REFORM UK and putting both Labour / Tories into the history books our children and grandchildren deserve better.

  • @OlafProt
    @OlafProt21 күн бұрын

    Reform wont change the place, Just send it down a deeper hole. Its just Farage's vanity project. He comes and goes where it suits him. He's no better than Labour, Tories or whoever. Theres gonna be civil unrest in the next 20-30 years. Major civil unrest. But not for good reasons like this film. But because the country is so dispassionate it worries about nonsense, about how many cars they own, how many phones. We need socialism back. Proper socialism.

  • @ffilmpalmer8498
    @ffilmpalmer84986 ай бұрын

    I lived in Penrhiwceiber as a kid, and all my mother’s side are from there. My granch worked down the mine but had retired by the time of the strike. The feeling I get is that no miner wanted their children to have to do what they did, but they themselves loved it, in such a conflicting way. I know one or two faces in this video who’ll still tell you how hard it was, but there’s no doubting the fondness of their memories. They’d likely trade it all to be back in that time again.

  • @OlafProt
    @OlafProt21 күн бұрын

    I've always thought that the loss of the mines, or heavy industry, took away the male sense of belonging. Sure it wasn't perfect in its ways by any stretch. But now, the kind of people that would've working in these industries, stack shelves and work behind tills. Theres no pride in that. And I'm not doing down those jobs, but you know what i mean. This was community, belonging. Thatcher said "theres no such thing as society". She was wrong. SO wrong.

  • @DarrenLloyd-lp6ix
    @DarrenLloyd-lp6ix8 ай бұрын

    At 17 I worked in the RBL club on 'Ceiber Road' part time in 1984 - 86. Glyn and Jean were the stewards. The ladies behind the bar were brutal to me in a p!ss taking way. I remember serving practically all of the local faces in this video. Where the ladies are talking is upstairs in the function room in the club (where they famously 'paid' Tom Jones to stop singing (as legend has it). I left the village to go to college in Gloucester and then joined the RAF, there was nothing to go back to. Practically every individual I can remember from this video was salt of the earth. Happy memories for me but not happy days for those miners and families impacted by this unjust situation. My father worked 38 years underground and 8 on 'top' at Penrhiwceiber Colliery he started working life at 13 in 1935, his wish was for not one of his 5 kids to work underground and endure the struggle of mining coal, he got his wish.

  • @tonygrant4607
    @tonygrant46078 ай бұрын

    Thatcher, the hater of unions, she started the Tory Netzero All con MPs have carried it on, Johnson included, LTNs ULEZ war on cars, buying energy from people who hate us, Bloody Tories, I include this Sunak lot.do not vote for Labour.

  • @ThePixey1000
    @ThePixey10005 ай бұрын

    Labour are the same as the tories you should check out their policies We should all be voting REFORM UK and putting both Labour / Tories into the history books our children and grandchildren deserve better.

  • @angeleyes7045
    @angeleyes70453 ай бұрын

    @@ThePixey1000 reform? are you serious, every one of them are ex tories, same wolf, different coat!

  • @kensilva2695
    @kensilva26959 ай бұрын

    I know the police have a job to do. But there cruelty in inhumane. Just horrible. Terrible. There behavior would be illegal here in the states.

  • @OlafProt
    @OlafProt21 күн бұрын

    Ken the USA police did the same in the 60s to the black community. Its all the same evil shit.

  • @TheHeavyend81
    @TheHeavyend814 күн бұрын

    I was a policeman during the 84 strike in South Wales and I can honestly say you are talking total bollox. Nearly every Policeman on the strike in Wales had family down the pits (I had had four family members) and had a job to do in upholding the law as best we could. To be cruel and inhumane as you say to miners was impossible as you lived in the same communities and homes as many, went to school with them and grew up with each other. The behiviour you are talking about is not illegal in the States but every day normal routine. Thankfully here we are a lot more accountable.

  • @OlafProt
    @OlafProt4 күн бұрын

    @@TheHeavyend81 right?! never allowed in the states? With police and public armed to the teeth ready for civil warfare.....

  • @tim.jenkins75
    @tim.jenkins7511 ай бұрын

    moved back to wales last year... left in 1983 as a young kid... was taken north of london to grow up.... i went up the valley last week for the fisrt time and was soooo surprised.... its sooo lush and lovely now... the hills are alive with nature and the coal slag heaps are all but gone.... back to the green place it should be... nostalgia aside... its much much better way of life now !!!!

  • @proudhon100
    @proudhon1008 ай бұрын

    But the people are surplus with no jobs.

  • @user-fl2nt8zc1p
    @user-fl2nt8zc1p7 ай бұрын

    No work no pride no community so much for a better way of life

  • @user-fl2nt8zc1p
    @user-fl2nt8zc1p4 ай бұрын

    Yep your full of s**t should have stayed in London

  • @Isabellaaskaan
    @Isabellaaskaan11 ай бұрын

    01. 00:29 Spirit of the Age 02. 02:06 40 Years in Rhyme 03. 04:03 My Ninth Birthday 04. 09:59 Never Too Late 05. 13:18 The Last Trump 06. 14:25 Take Back Control 07. 16:24 Rock 'n' Roll Brexit 08. 19:44 In Training 09. 22:43 Candid Camera 10. 24:44 Never Forget 11. 27:54 The Leppings Lane End 12. 28:56 Keeping Up Appearances 13. 30:56 Poison Pensioner 14. 32:58 Auntie Rose 15. 34:49 Bob Crow 16. 37:34 The Return of Winter Vomiting Bug 17. 38:55 ??? (Smash the System) 18. 40:14 ??? (Crass tribute) 19. 41:47 My Doc Martens 20. 44:25 My Poetic License

  • @togderi
    @togderi11 ай бұрын

    Isabellaaskaan, Much appreciated. Thank you very much. x

  • @signdance
    @signdance11 ай бұрын

    Wales' greatest theatre company ever.

  • @MultiBrad777
    @MultiBrad77711 ай бұрын

    so very rare and lovely!

  • @togderi
    @togderi11 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers.

  • @stephencorrall
    @stephencorrall Жыл бұрын

    Lovely singing!

  • @robertjarman4261
    @robertjarman4261 Жыл бұрын

    Lived there as a good Tory and an Englishman. How did l survive.

  • @rapman5363
    @rapman5363 Жыл бұрын

    I found it amazing that there was any coal coming up from the pits. Every time you turned around the bloody miners were always on strike.

  • @Tridhos
    @Tridhos8 ай бұрын

    Strange my father and older brothers were both miners and until I moved away in my twenties I never recall them ever being on strike.

  • @user-fl2nt8zc1p
    @user-fl2nt8zc1p7 ай бұрын

    Clown doesn’t know anything

  • @roysheldon6817
    @roysheldon6817 Жыл бұрын

    I me from a mining community and I supported the miners.But not Arthur Scarily, he was so incompetent I think he was working for Maggie.

  • @ThePixey1000
    @ThePixey10005 ай бұрын

    Scargile took no wages through the strike but after he bought a £25000.oo house thought to be Russian money sent for the striking miners.

  • @OlafProt
    @OlafProt21 күн бұрын

    you had to wonder right?!

  • @frankkelleher1888
    @frankkelleher1888 Жыл бұрын

    The greatest respect from Ireland 🇮🇪 👏

  • @petrasant5495
    @petrasant549510 ай бұрын

    God Bless Ireland and it’s great people!

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw
    @JamesRichards-mj9kw4 ай бұрын

    The miners lost.

  • @johnrowley7459
    @johnrowley7459 Жыл бұрын

    30 years ago! I was the MAN. In the rain, tethered by bungees...'WE KNOW THE REST'. Great to see this bootleg!

  • @togderi
    @togderi Жыл бұрын

    Thank you John. It was a great event. Glad you found the vid.

  • @tommyhassan3545
    @tommyhassan3545 Жыл бұрын

    Big big respect to these great people they were my heroes when I was growing up as kid in the 80’s in cardiff and they are still my heroes to this day 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @DOCTORDROTT
    @DOCTORDROTT Жыл бұрын

    My grandfather worked in that pit and got injured underground in 1959. The sad fact is that coal was in decline in the early 1960's. The ordinary people closed the pits as they turned to central heating, steam locos was withdrawn and now the greenies have got their way with open cast closing and power stations shutting. It's very sad but its industrial evolution. NONE of my mining relatives are alive, some died young from the dust. So glad they are shut now. People deserve a better way of life now. Don't forget the NCB killed 116 children a mile and a half from this pit. And a Labour government was in government at that time

  • @rapman5363
    @rapman5363 Жыл бұрын

    You speak the truth my friend. Most of these wankers let their hatred for Maggie color their reminders of the past. Look what the labor party has done to the country in the last 30 years.

  • @gregoryclark8217
    @gregoryclark821710 ай бұрын

    @@rapman5363 Labour haven't been in power for 13 years. Anything wrong with the UK is the fault of the Tories.

  • @proudhon100
    @proudhon1008 ай бұрын

    @@rapman5363 20 mph! Compulsory se x perversion lessons in primary schools.

  • @NecatiArabaci2256
    @NecatiArabaci22562 жыл бұрын

    The good old days. Thank you sir for the information regarding cyber colliery Thank you 🙏 I’ve download it. Very very powerful. Thank you sir I’m deeply indebted

  • @NecatiArabaci2256
    @NecatiArabaci22562 жыл бұрын

    I’m a Tyne boy Please can you tell me the name of the song at the beginning please. Thank you 🙏. I have a huge amount of respect for all colliers GOD BLESS YOU ALL. IM PROUD TO BE WELSH. IM PROUD TO BE A VALLEY BOY. IV LIVED EVERYWHERE BUT THERS NO PLACE LIKE THE VALLEYS THANK YOU 🙏 Kevin John Davies My grandfather was William ( cold morning)Davies My dad Robert John Davies.

  • @togderi
    @togderi2 жыл бұрын

    Hiya Kevin, The song is 'Take me Home' By Rod Edwards and Roger Hand. Covered by many including the Beaufort Male Choir also this version was used by 'Public Service Broadcast' on their album 'Every Valley' .

  • @NecatiArabaci2256
    @NecatiArabaci22562 жыл бұрын

    @@togderi Good afternoon sir Thank you 🙏 so much Please enjoy your day Please stay safe sir Thank you 🙏

  • @sindygooch4209
    @sindygooch42092 жыл бұрын

    I'm from perthcelyn and know penhiwceiber well and know a lot of people on this from . My good friend Val is one of them . Was lovely to see her looking so young bless her xx

  • @dewicurtis3589
    @dewicurtis3589 Жыл бұрын

    My nan babera Curtis was in this documentary

  • @togderi
    @togderi2 жыл бұрын

    I had a run in with youtube lawyers over this video. The long story is :- Back in 2013 as a part of her university degree, my partner was writing a book ('How Black Were Our Valleys') of untold miners stories from the strike, for the upcoming 30th anniversary of the miners strike, (all money went to The miners benefit fund) When she was gathering the info, she was told of a film called 'All Out' on VHS. We finally got hold of it from Dai Ropey's . It was made by Bristol university drama department. So we got in touch with them, and asked permission to give digital DVD copies, (which I had digitised the from the tape.), free with the initial 20 copies of the book. They had no record of the film, but said, OK as long as we used the complete film including the titles and credits, and also to supply them with a copy for their archive. Well A few years later John Willgoose from the famous band Public Service Broadcast got in touch with us, as the band were secretly planning to release an LP 'Every Valley' about the Miners. We worked with him supplying him a copy of the DVD amongst a load of other things. We also took him to Big Pit. The LP was released to much acclaim. Then two years ago I decided it was time the film went on youtube, only to get it flagged by their lawyers threatening court proceedings. I explained it was me who made digital copies of the original VHS video & we had written permission from Bristol Uni. Court date was set unless I relinquished the copyright / ownership and took the video down. All because P.S.B. had use a small section of the sound track on their LP. Even though I was in the right, I didn't have the huge funds I needed to pursue this through the courts. Ho hum. C'est la Vie. The film is still out there though. Over 10.000 views, I think I won.

  • @MrHimlay
    @MrHimlay Жыл бұрын

    So PSB used a sample from the video you digitised, then their lawyers threatened you for putting the video online as it contains samples PSB used? A little insight into the snake pit that is the music biz! Great album mind...

  • @rapman5363
    @rapman5363 Жыл бұрын

    Bloody wankers!!

  • @stevewakeford4592
    @stevewakeford459210 ай бұрын

    Not sure if you'll see this but would like to get in contact with you regarding using 21 seconds from this for a film I am working on. I have also contacted Bristol University. Thank you

  • @togderi
    @togderi10 ай бұрын

    @@stevewakeford4592 No problems. That's fine with me. Please remember to credit Bristol University. All the best with your project.

  • @stevewakeford4592
    @stevewakeford459210 ай бұрын

    @@togderi Thanks for getting back so quickly! I will be sure to credit them. (Crazy story above about psb lawyers! Murky world of music/content licensing!) Glad this is still up and being enjoyed and appreciated!

  • @9Alchemy13
    @9Alchemy132 жыл бұрын

    the cowboy who achieved magic

  • @cal7184
    @cal71843 жыл бұрын

    A breed of people like no other. I'm proud to come from generations of miners.

  • @hannahdavies7388
    @hannahdavies73882 жыл бұрын

    Me ttoo grew up in a mining community in the 1980s

  • @chriscars3578
    @chriscars35783 жыл бұрын

    I was on strike in notts when I went back my job had been took off me by a scab we got know overtime or nothing bastards

  • @alunhughes2632
    @alunhughes26322 жыл бұрын

    You were a miner, they were scum.

  • @alunhughes2632
    @alunhughes26322 жыл бұрын

    If your going to support scabs then change your name. I was on strike in Cwm/Beddau until the end.

  • @neilwilliams2409
    @neilwilliams24093 жыл бұрын

    Great tribute to a proud mining community. Da iawn 👌🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @deeppurple883
    @deeppurple8833 жыл бұрын

    The poor working person are the most loyal people you can work with . We always have each others back's in disputes of any kind. We loose more but that's not a reason for backing down from a fight . LOYALTY, Is the motivation sprinkled with a pinch of pride because of our root's. 🥔🇮🇪🍀

  • @mrfun6124
    @mrfun61243 жыл бұрын

    It's so nice to hear my nans voice love u nan

  • @NecatiArabaci2256
    @NecatiArabaci22563 жыл бұрын

    I remember these days Watching this breaks my heart. GOD BLESS EVERY MINER

  • @angliscsaxon1288
    @angliscsaxon12883 жыл бұрын

    Maggie divided and conquered the miners. such a shame

  • @andrewh5457
    @andrewh54572 жыл бұрын

    After Wilson weakened it by closing so many pits.

  • @johnhowarth7318
    @johnhowarth73183 жыл бұрын

    UTMOST RESPECT !!!!

  • @markanthonyshellard4475
    @markanthonyshellard44753 жыл бұрын

    My father worked here

  • @riverdeep399
    @riverdeep3993 жыл бұрын

    @Mark Anthony Shellard How is he doing now? My mum often talks of these days. She'd spit at Thatchers grave if she could.

  • @andrewh5457
    @andrewh54572 жыл бұрын

    @@riverdeep399 would she spit on Wilsons grave, he closed more pits than Maggie,

  • @conscienceaginBlackadder
    @conscienceaginBlackadder4 жыл бұрын

    3 years after the failure of a claimed fight to save itself, Penrhiwceiber got its rail station back.

  • @GMDark
    @GMDark4 жыл бұрын

    丰 L-Ov-Ǝ 丰TЯ23丰 Back in no time... until then, will miss my sister Gen. Rest In Power. Gen & Jaye, together again (Re-United.)

  • @DOCTORDROTT
    @DOCTORDROTT4 жыл бұрын

    My grandfather got a bad injury at this pit in 1957, I still got that damaged miners helmet on my wall next to a photo of the colliery. Its strange that the industry that formed the communities also destroyed the health of thousands. Thank God that men are not working in those bad conditions these days . The sad fact was that coal was being replaced by oil, gas heating in the 1970's. The miners contribution must not be forgotten as they played an important part in the history of the UK . Lions led by donkeys. Life moves on .

  • @togderi
    @togderi4 жыл бұрын

    We're not worried about money. If we worried about money we wouldn't be working class...18:00

  • @MorganBowler
    @MorganBowler4 жыл бұрын

    This is fantastic. I hope it gets shared far and wide across Wales. That message of, things are tough, but in times like these, we pull together and look after our communities... I think its important to remind people. Because the young families today, the parents we're not born in the late 80s - the same way the young families in the strike we're not born during the war years and needed to be reminded, we've been through this before... We survived then by pulling together. We can survive now too.

  • @0ldw3lshm4n
    @0ldw3lshm4n4 жыл бұрын

    Knowing what is known about the police now should have kicked the shit out of them and not held back. I still remember digging out duff out of the tips, many of them were dangerous where kids undercutting too far.

  • @katrinabowden1173
    @katrinabowden11734 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou for posting this ! Took me right back to my roots My mum is speaking ....

  • @retrorambles517
    @retrorambles5173 жыл бұрын

    It's crap being working class and poor

  • @davidwatkins8395
    @davidwatkins83953 жыл бұрын

    Great video 👍💯✌️😎🙏 Cymru Am Byth !!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @ssotbme
    @ssotbme4 жыл бұрын

    great stuff thanks for posting

  • @togderi
    @togderi4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers.

  • @23om23
    @23om234 жыл бұрын

    i was at this gig! stood in the corner how weird!!

  • @Doghouse23
    @Doghouse235 жыл бұрын

    Nice one Tog. X

  • @thedmtexperiment8305
    @thedmtexperiment83057 жыл бұрын

    There have been many changes in the two years following... :-)

  • @aidabirch630
    @aidabirch6307 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant, the truth is spoken. Thank you to Red Poets.

  • @DirectorSabbra
    @DirectorSabbra9 жыл бұрын

    If you like this video, you Will probably like my latest release: www.discogs.com/Hate-Poem-Eleven-Poems-Of-Death/release/7020748

  • @DirectorSabbra
    @DirectorSabbra9 жыл бұрын

    Best ever.

  • @togderi
    @togderi9 жыл бұрын

    DirectorSabbra Thank you. T()G /|\

  • @adriantuck1476
    @adriantuck14769 жыл бұрын

    I went to this - it was absolutely fabulous

  • @jamjar142
    @jamjar1429 жыл бұрын

    I've been working with this sort of sound for over thirty years now, but I don't use loops and it's all recorded live.

  • @Indavidualpoet
    @Indavidualpoet9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for putting this up so quickly, Tog. Much appreciated :-)

  • @togderi
    @togderi9 жыл бұрын

    I was there. T()G /|\ xXx