I had a run in with youtube lawyers over this video. The long story is :- Back in 2013 as a part of her university degree, my partner was writing a book ('How Black Were Our Valleys') of untold miners stories from the strike, for the upcoming 30th anniversary of the miners strike, (all money went to The miners benefit fund) When she was gathering the info, she was told of a film called 'All Out' on VHS. We finally got hold of it from Dai Ropey's . It was made by Bristol university drama department. So we got in touch with them, and asked permission to give digital DVD copies, (which I had digitised the from the tape.), free with the initial 20 copies of the book. They had no record of the film, but said, OK as long as we used the complete film including the titles and credits, and also to supply them with a copy for their archive. Well A few years later John Willgoose from the famous band Public Service Broadcast got in touch with us, as the band were secretly planning to release an LP 'Every Valley' about the Miners. We worked with him supplying him a copy of the DVD amongst a load of other things. We also took him to Big Pit. The LP was released to much acclaim. Then two years ago I decided it was time the film went on youtube, only to get it flagged by their lawyers threatening court proceedings. I explained it was me who made digital copies of the original VHS video & we had written permission from Bristol Uni. Court date was set unless I relinquished the copyright / ownership and took the video down. All because P.S.B. had use a small section of the sound track on their LP. Even though I was in the right, I didn't have the huge funds I needed to pursue this through the courts. Ho hum. C'est la Vie. The film is still out there though. Over 10.000 views, I think I won.

@MrHimlay

Жыл бұрын

So PSB used a sample from the video you digitised, then their lawyers threatened you for putting the video online as it contains samples PSB used? A little insight into the snake pit that is the music biz! Great album mind...

@rapman5363

Жыл бұрын

Bloody wankers!!

@stevewakeford4592

10 ай бұрын

Not sure if you'll see this but would like to get in contact with you regarding using 21 seconds from this for a film I am working on. I have also contacted Bristol University. Thank you

@togderi

10 ай бұрын

@@stevewakeford4592 No problems. That's fine with me. Please remember to credit Bristol University. All the best with your project.

@stevewakeford4592

10 ай бұрын

@@togderi Thanks for getting back so quickly! I will be sure to credit them. (Crazy story above about psb lawyers! Murky world of music/content licensing!) Glad this is still up and being enjoyed and appreciated!

It's so nice to hear my nans voice love u nan

A breed of people like no other. I'm proud to come from generations of miners.

@hannahdavies7388

2 жыл бұрын

Me ttoo grew up in a mining community in the 1980s

Great tribute to a proud mining community. Da iawn 👌🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

My grandfather got a bad injury at this pit in 1957, I still got that damaged miners helmet on my wall next to a photo of the colliery. Its strange that the industry that formed the communities also destroyed the health of thousands. Thank God that men are not working in those bad conditions these days . The sad fact was that coal was being replaced by oil, gas heating in the 1970's. The miners contribution must not be forgotten as they played an important part in the history of the UK . Lions led by donkeys. Life moves on .

I remember these days Watching this breaks my heart. GOD BLESS EVERY MINER

Big big respect to these great people they were my heroes when I was growing up as kid in the 80’s in cardiff and they are still my heroes to this day 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

moved back to wales last year... left in 1983 as a young kid... was taken north of london to grow up.... i went up the valley last week for the fisrt time and was soooo surprised.... its sooo lush and lovely now... the hills are alive with nature and the coal slag heaps are all but gone.... back to the green place it should be... nostalgia aside... its much much better way of life now !!!!

@proudhon100

8 ай бұрын

But the people are surplus with no jobs.

@user-fl2nt8zc1p

7 ай бұрын

No work no pride no community so much for a better way of life

@user-fl2nt8zc1p

4 ай бұрын

Yep your full of s**t should have stayed in London

I'm from perthcelyn and know penhiwceiber well and know a lot of people on this from . My good friend Val is one of them . Was lovely to see her looking so young bless her xx

@dewicurtis3589

Жыл бұрын

My nan babera Curtis was in this documentary

I lived in Penrhiwceiber as a kid, and all my mother’s side are from there. My granch worked down the mine but had retired by the time of the strike. The feeling I get is that no miner wanted their children to have to do what they did, but they themselves loved it, in such a conflicting way. I know one or two faces in this video who’ll still tell you how hard it was, but there’s no doubting the fondness of their memories. They’d likely trade it all to be back in that time again.

@OlafProt

17 күн бұрын

I've always thought that the loss of the mines, or heavy industry, took away the male sense of belonging. Sure it wasn't perfect in its ways by any stretch. But now, the kind of people that would've working in these industries, stack shelves and work behind tills. Theres no pride in that. And I'm not doing down those jobs, but you know what i mean. This was community, belonging. Thatcher said "theres no such thing as society". She was wrong. SO wrong.

Lovely singing!

Scargill began a fight he could not win.

Maggie divided and conquered the miners. such a shame

@andrewh5457

2 жыл бұрын

After Wilson weakened it by closing so many pits.

At 17 I worked in the RBL club on 'Ceiber Road' part time in 1984 - 86. Glyn and Jean were the stewards. The ladies behind the bar were brutal to me in a p!ss taking way. I remember serving practically all of the local faces in this video. Where the ladies are talking is upstairs in the function room in the club (where they famously 'paid' Tom Jones to stop singing (as legend has it). I left the village to go to college in Gloucester and then joined the RAF, there was nothing to go back to. Practically every individual I can remember from this video was salt of the earth. Happy memories for me but not happy days for those miners and families impacted by this unjust situation. My father worked 38 years underground and 8 on 'top' at Penrhiwceiber Colliery he started working life at 13 in 1935, his wish was for not one of his 5 kids to work underground and endure the struggle of mining coal, he got his wish.

The poor working person are the most loyal people you can work with . We always have each others back's in disputes of any kind. We loose more but that's not a reason for backing down from a fight . LOYALTY, Is the motivation sprinkled with a pinch of pride because of our root's. 🥔🇮🇪🍀

UTMOST RESPECT !!!!

Treated worse than animals , the miners were

@MarkHarrison733

2 ай бұрын

They started an illegal strike in a deliberate attempt to bring down the elected government.

My grandfather worked in that pit and got injured underground in 1959. The sad fact is that coal was in decline in the early 1960's. The ordinary people closed the pits as they turned to central heating, steam locos was withdrawn and now the greenies have got their way with open cast closing and power stations shutting. It's very sad but its industrial evolution. NONE of my mining relatives are alive, some died young from the dust. So glad they are shut now. People deserve a better way of life now. Don't forget the NCB killed 116 children a mile and a half from this pit. And a Labour government was in government at that time

@rapman5363

Жыл бұрын

You speak the truth my friend. Most of these wankers let their hatred for Maggie color their reminders of the past. Look what the labor party has done to the country in the last 30 years.

@gregoryclark8217

10 ай бұрын

@@rapman5363 Labour haven't been in power for 13 years. Anything wrong with the UK is the fault of the Tories.

@proudhon100

8 ай бұрын

@@rapman5363 20 mph! Compulsory se x perversion lessons in primary schools.

We're not worried about money. If we worried about money we wouldn't be working class...18:00

@MorganBowler

4 жыл бұрын

This is fantastic. I hope it gets shared far and wide across Wales. That message of, things are tough, but in times like these, we pull together and look after our communities... I think its important to remind people. Because the young families today, the parents we're not born in the late 80s - the same way the young families in the strike we're not born during the war years and needed to be reminded, we've been through this before... We survived then by pulling together. We can survive now too.

@0ldw3lshm4n

4 жыл бұрын

Knowing what is known about the police now should have kicked the shit out of them and not held back. I still remember digging out duff out of the tips, many of them were dangerous where kids undercutting too far.

@katrinabowden1173

4 жыл бұрын

Thankyou for posting this ! Took me right back to my roots My mum is speaking ....

@retrorambles517

3 жыл бұрын

It's crap being working class and poor

@davidwatkins8395

3 жыл бұрын

Great video 👍💯✌️😎🙏 Cymru Am Byth !!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

I’m a Tyne boy Please can you tell me the name of the song at the beginning please. Thank you 🙏. I have a huge amount of respect for all colliers GOD BLESS YOU ALL. IM PROUD TO BE WELSH. IM PROUD TO BE A VALLEY BOY. IV LIVED EVERYWHERE BUT THERS NO PLACE LIKE THE VALLEYS THANK YOU 🙏 Kevin John Davies My grandfather was William ( cold morning)Davies My dad Robert John Davies.

@togderi

2 жыл бұрын

Hiya Kevin, The song is 'Take me Home' By Rod Edwards and Roger Hand. Covered by many including the Beaufort Male Choir also this version was used by 'Public Service Broadcast' on their album 'Every Valley' .

@NecatiArabaci2256

2 жыл бұрын

@@togderi Good afternoon sir Thank you 🙏 so much Please enjoy your day Please stay safe sir Thank you 🙏

3 years after the failure of a claimed fight to save itself, Penrhiwceiber got its rail station back.

The greatest respect from Ireland 🇮🇪 👏

@petrasant5495

10 ай бұрын

God Bless Ireland and it’s great people!

@JamesRichards-mj9kw

4 ай бұрын

The miners lost.

The miners strike was a grinding, shocking, dreadful metaphor, for the reality of what Thatcher did to this entire country, top to bottom. And we're still paying the price, North, South, East or West. As someone that grew up in Surrey, I knew nothing of what these communities went through, and the news and the government just made them out to be trouble makers, moaning union trouble makers. Having left Surrey in 1993, and grown up, I now know how horrendous this was, and the lies. As someone said below, you wouldn't treat dogs like these people were. I blame no-one but her, Thatcher, for the state this country is in now. I'm not religious, but that woman was the devil. This wasn't "just jobs / just industry / modernisation" this was entire communities, lives, ways of living. indefensible. Selling the country's soul and assets in its desperate desire to be America, and push capitalism. Now we're are on a road to nowhere. When its all out of living memory, when we're all long gone, I hope history's books actually see what that harridan of a Prime Minister, and her henchmen, did. Her quote at 22:08 Using soldiers lives as a comparison. What a scumbag.

@TheHeavyend81

10 сағат бұрын

As you say you know nothing of what these communities went throuth from sunny Surrey. My whole family were miners in 84 in the Cynon Valley and I was a Policeman in Lllanishen at the time and worked the whole of the strike both in Cynon Valley, Port Talbot and up North, so you can imagine the conversations we had around meal times etc. I would see them at the weekend and on Monday we were literally enemies. I sympathised with them every step of the way and it was hard and painful to see it all and be right in the middle of it. I also played rugby for South Wales Police at the time and the animosity very often carried over onto the rugby field and was brutal at times, but rugby being rugby we shook hands at the end. There is always two sides to a story (regarding treatment and abuse of each other at ground level around the Picket lines) and I was almost every day on both sides of it. In reality though how much longer would the pits have lasted bleeding money at a huge loss, especially with cheaper coal being brought in to the country from Eastern Europe and even from as far away as Australia. If it wasn't Maggie Thatcher it would have been someone else (even a Labour Government would have done the same). Jobs for life and filling your slot with your children was never going to happen in a modern world. Coal mining was becoming evermore dangerous, unpopular and unsustainable. Colliery workers were the most hardest working men in the country and no one will deny that. Can you imagine trying to get the bone idle teenagers these days to go down a pit, most cant even get out of bed. Even society attitudes were beginning to change and the inevitable had to come sometime. I can remember my parents always saying to me as a child in the 60's they would never let me go down the pits. I saw what it did to my father (Deep Duffryn Colliery) and step father (Lady Windsor Colliery), both now passed as a result of dust in the lungs. The decimation of communities, not only in Wales it caused at the time is still felt but I would confidentially say that not one miner around today would want to go back down a pit and certainly wouldn't want their children to do the same.

@OlafProt

10 сағат бұрын

@@TheHeavyend81 thanks so much for sharing this with me. Every day is a school day and i appreciate when someone responds to me in the way you have. I am the very definition of white privilege (not that we were in any way wealthy, financially), but I suppose I shouldn't trash myself simply because my accident of birth. But its really important to me to understand what happened. My sister lives in an ex mining community in West Yorkshire and she to this day would encounter some mistrust as a southerner, so deep is the hurt. I wonder what the alternative was, was it ever going to be modernized to an acceptable level? You're right that if it wasn't Thatcher it would've been someone else. But it was done in such a demeaning, brutal fashion.Shocking times, reported with such bias.

My father worked here

@riverdeep399

3 жыл бұрын

@Mark Anthony Shellard How is he doing now? My mum often talks of these days. She'd spit at Thatchers grave if she could.

@andrewh5457

2 жыл бұрын

@@riverdeep399 would she spit on Wilsons grave, he closed more pits than Maggie,

Lived there as a good Tory and an Englishman. How did l survive.

I know the police have a job to do. But there cruelty in inhumane. Just horrible. Terrible. There behavior would be illegal here in the states.

@OlafProt

17 күн бұрын

Ken the USA police did the same in the 60s to the black community. Its all the same evil shit.

@TheHeavyend81

10 сағат бұрын

I was a policeman during the 84 strike in South Wales and I can honestly say you are talking total bollox. Nearly every Policeman on the strike in Wales had family down the pits (I had had four family members) and had a job to do in upholding the law as best we could. To be cruel and inhumane as you say to miners was impossible as you lived in the same communities and homes as many, went to school with them and grew up with each other. The behiviour you are talking about is not illegal in the States but every day normal routine. Thankfully here we are a lot more accountable.

@OlafProt

10 сағат бұрын

@@TheHeavyend81 right?! never allowed in the states? With police and public armed to the teeth ready for civil warfare.....

I me from a mining community and I supported the miners.But not Arthur Scarily, he was so incompetent I think he was working for Maggie.

@ThePixey1000

5 ай бұрын

Scargile took no wages through the strike but after he bought a £25000.oo house thought to be Russian money sent for the striking miners.

@OlafProt

17 күн бұрын

you had to wonder right?!

Labour are the same as the Tories you should check out their policies We should all be voting REFORM UK and putting both Labour / Tories into the history books our children and grandchildren deserve better.

@OlafProt

17 күн бұрын

Reform wont change the place, Just send it down a deeper hole. Its just Farage's vanity project. He comes and goes where it suits him. He's no better than Labour, Tories or whoever. Theres gonna be civil unrest in the next 20-30 years. Major civil unrest. But not for good reasons like this film. But because the country is so dispassionate it worries about nonsense, about how many cars they own, how many phones. We need socialism back. Proper socialism.

I found it amazing that there was any coal coming up from the pits. Every time you turned around the bloody miners were always on strike.

@Tridhos

8 ай бұрын

Strange my father and older brothers were both miners and until I moved away in my twenties I never recall them ever being on strike.

@user-fl2nt8zc1p

7 ай бұрын

Clown doesn’t know anything