Hi all. Some answer to some of your questions below. -Can I buy the Cog/Click separately? As of now yes but Cog/Click upgrade kit sold on Zwift.com is only compatible with the Zwift Hub trainers. Upgrade kit for Wahoo is coming but there is no official date. -Can I convert an existing Core? You can access virtual shifting on existing Core with the firmware update and Play Controllers, but there is not a Cog/Click upgrade kit for Core available at this time. -Can I convert an existing Kickr? As of now, now, but it seems likely to come in the future.

I just got one and it’s pretty awesome, can swap between all bikes without worrying about cassettes

Great review

Let me start by complimenting you on your relatively unbiased content. I also have a couple of question and a comment: First questions is how well if, at all, will the Zwift equipment work with alternative training apps like Rouvy, etc. and does all the std and optional clickers work with these app? Second, will this allow you train your real world shifting skills?And to add a little perspective/ comment, I did own a Kicker Core but quickly ditched it in favor of a Tacx Neo. I was lucky to be able to try the two back to back and my bike shop let me trade-in/ upgrade to the Neo. Aside from the Neo being noticeably quieter and smoother than the Wahoo (something more apparent when tested together), it was night and day more stable - which for a big and powerful guy means a hell of a lot!!! I'm 6'3" 100kg and can hit 1400+ watts, but the latter is just not practical or safe on the Wahoo. The Waboo trainer was jumping around like crazy during sprints and any serious side to side motion would almost put me on my ass. It just did not allow me to mimic real riding or train efficiently. IMHO maybe Zwift hub ok for novices and the mechanically challenged, and the underlying Wahoo family is best suited for small riders or those only doing low intensity and/or steady efforts. BTW I even tried adding weights to the Wahoo base, but that was a exercise in futility. The Tacx did cost more but it ticked all the boxes and was worth the money, although had I not used both machines I might not have no known what I was missing. This point may be an idea for a testing episode😂

My turbo bike is Shimano shifter and my outdoor e-bike (Domane+ 2019) is SRAM. Seems like this would solve the hassle of switching back & forth.

My 8 year old kickr gen1 that refuses to die is gonna have to finally be retired for the hub version. Can’t wait to be able to put my other bikes on this.

hi. did you test the virtual shifting with a regular cassette? on high gears, i have a strong vibration and im wondering if now by using virtual gear, i can stay on a lighter gear but use the virtual to shift and eventually have less vibration as on small cogs

Regarding the instability of the KICKR Core, I came across a random post on Reddit where the poster found that turning the legs around provided a lot more stability. I.e. turn the rear one so the logo faces inwards and the front leg so the logo also faces inwards. I tried this and not only is it more stable, but I find it has improved my comfort on the bike. My KICKR Core is a couple of years old, so I’m not sure if this is something addressed in this version

YES!

Ben, I have a question. You obviously are building up, breaking down and are traveling with a large number bicycles. What are your top tool recommendations? Yes, I noticed the unique looking tools you used to take off and put on the cog. Thanks in advance.

@TheRidewithBenDelaney

4 ай бұрын

I could do a video on this. 🤜🤛

Which buttons and/or levers do you use on the Zwift Play Controllers? (Not the Zwift Click)

Thanks, Ben. Is the hub compatible with the Kickr Power?

@TheRidewithBenDelaney

3 ай бұрын

Not yet, but I bet that it will be.

That Lauf Uthald 👀Do I see a review in the near future?

@TheRidewithBenDelaney

4 ай бұрын

Riding it in Arizona right now.

@iamnicoalfonso

4 ай бұрын

@@TheRidewithBenDelaney Looking forward to this review.

Does the virtual shifting work on a regular workout (train based on your own plan)?

Can i convert the hardware ie zwift hub of my wahoo kickr core to this one? Do they sell it separately?

@TheRidewithBenDelaney

4 ай бұрын

Not yet. See above.

Can you convert regular Kicker Core to use Zwift cog?

@AJHillis

4 ай бұрын

Yes. Just update the firmware on your existing Core.

@user-pk4en6ih2l

4 ай бұрын

@@AJHillisso all you need is to buy the zwift cog and click?

@ErickMoreno

4 ай бұрын

You don't even need to buy the cog. You can buy the Zwift Play controls and keep your regular cassette.

@proffate

4 ай бұрын

Indeed, I use virtual shifting with a regular cassette so I can modify my pedaling dynamics during non ERG mode Zwift riding such as racing. Smaller physical gear ratio paired with higher virtual gear uses slightly different muscles/yields a different feel as compared to big physical/small virtual.

@alejandro.a.m

4 ай бұрын

@@proffate Why does he say that cog/click upgrade is only available for the zwift hub and not yet for the Core ?? I think it’s available, no??

How does it compare to the Zwift Hub that it is replacing? I got the Hub and wondering if I should switch.

@TheRidewithBenDelaney

4 ай бұрын

Pretty darn similar.

Need one for wahoo SYSTM

Odd question: I’m a die hard ERG Moder on a Tacx Neo 2T with HG freehub body. Can I use this Zwift cog/cassette in lieu of a regular Shimano 9 speed QR cassette, or is the interface specific to the wahoo trainer fh body in some way?

@TheRidewithBenDelaney

4 ай бұрын

For now at least, you need a Wahoo trainer. Not for the mechanical interface, but for the firmware so it will work with the Click shifter.

@thodpa

4 ай бұрын

Yeah totally get that - but if I have no interest in the click shifter and I don’t Zwift (I TR!) can I just use this “cassette” as a cassette replacement ?

Could you use the shifting in other apps besides Zwift?

@lpeter1172

4 ай бұрын

Not yet, maybe later

Quick, and perhaps stupid, question. Can a person set a single speed up on this without a derailleur or does it need a chain tensioner of some sort?

@Chader9

4 ай бұрын

You need a method to tension the chain at the very least. And keep in mind that you must have at least a 130mm QR style axle frame since that is the smallest these trainers fit.

@brandon9023

4 ай бұрын

Thanks @@Chader9

One could use this without a rear derailleur, right? Like just with a 1x front chainring… say if we have a spare bike frameset lying around

@ErickMoreno

4 ай бұрын

That's what I do. 1x with a rear chain tensioner. I don't even have any derailleur in my Zwift bike.

@thedownunderverse

4 ай бұрын

@@ErickMoreno what does a rear chain tensioner look like? I thought they were specific to horizontal dropouts

Does it work with on HG cassettes or XDR as well?

@Chader9

4 ай бұрын

HG cassette only.

I just bought the zwift hub one this morning and the wahoo kickr one wasnt on the site, should i cancel my order and get the wahoo???

@Girrafffe

4 ай бұрын

I'm in the same boat wondering that....

@TheRidewithBenDelaney

4 ай бұрын

You know, that might not be a bad idea. I would hope Zwift would honor product care well into the future, but the fact is they are no longer in the hardware game while Wahoo still is. Do with that info what you will.

@samuel8590

4 ай бұрын

Looks like you have to purchase as a bundle on their website.

Hi , if I buy Wahoo Kickr Core Zwift One can I use cassette in the future ?

@TheRidewithBenDelaney

3 ай бұрын

Yes, you can. There is a Shimano freehub underneath, and you can also buy a SRAM driver.

I've been riding a smart trainer for the past 3 years. In the winter months I ride on the trainer 5 to 6 days a week. I am not a racer and use the trainer to stay in biking shape all winter long. I use the Zwift companion app on my phone to control direction and power ups within the game (no sweat on my laptop). I feel having the same exact gearing (cassette + chainrings) as your outdoor bike is important. This way the bike feels similar when riding indoors. Based on this I see no need for the single hub and the Zwift shifter. I don't want to have to relearn shifting using the shift device. I would rather shift just as I do outdoors on the road. If I was looking to get into a smart trainer I think this is a good option but go with the cassette version and match the cassette to what is on your bike. Getting a year of Zwift for free is also a nice perk of this option. I also use Rouvy as an alternative to Zwift. Sometimes the video game feel of Zwift gets old. Thanks for the great review Ben.

@lawlerskeetz

4 ай бұрын

It takes a very short amount of time to get used to a different gearing, as someone who rides multiple different bikes you barely even notice it

No footage of you on your daughter's 7 speed bike? 😉

do not recommend cog! very noisy at least with my tiagra set. i put regular cassette and is much much better.

@CaribbeanCyclist

2 ай бұрын

Remove the plastic lock ring

never understood why people destroy their bikes on these silly indoor trainers 😂😂

Hi , if I buy Wahoo Kickr Core Zwift One can I use cassette in the future ?

@TheRidewithBenDelaney

3 ай бұрын

Yes you can.