Zog: King of the Bloodfeud

Be you a Hatfield, a Black Donnelly, Alexander Hamilton or Zog, vendettas are an unfortunately common part of human existence. And while as an individual, our needs for vengeance are personal and deep, they're often at odds with society. Justice is not a universal concept.
Blood feuds end in blood. It's right there in the name.
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  • @RareEarthSeries
    @RareEarthSeries5 жыл бұрын

    This show exists entirely because of your support: www.patreon.com/rareearth

  • @eddenoy321

    @eddenoy321

    5 жыл бұрын

    Quality content !

  • @erezra

    @erezra

    5 жыл бұрын

    You got it. To me it's worth it.

  • @erezra

    @erezra

    5 жыл бұрын

    The only thing I'm sorry for is that previously you had 666 patreons. I wrecked it. Sorry!

  • @annoloki

    @annoloki

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pecu - That's often not what people mean when they say that state supplied vengeance is continuing the cycle... punishment doesn't solve the problem that created the initial victim, it only offers victims a semblance of closure by saying "when this happens to you, the perpetrator will be punished", and for many people, this is enough... after all, we're not meant to want to be cruel to each other, if we see something bad happening to someone, we're meant to feel bad and want it to stop, but for many of us, broken in one way or another, there is this magic D word that lets you take a short holiday from this... you get to not feel empathy, but to enjoy seeing something bad happen to someone, and because of the holiday, not have to wonder if it makes you a bad person... you have a permission slip to enjoy seeing something bad happen to someone, because they "deserve" it. And so, many people are content with the fact that crime happens and people get hurt, as long as somebody gets punished for it who we think "deserves" it, because then we get to be okay with bad things happening. Of course, once a crime has happened and somebody has been hurt, state intervention is necessary, otherwise people take vengeance into their own hands... no one is saying that having a tough childhood should be used as an "excuse" to be allowed to pass on that injury to others, but for many of us, the "when this happens to you" is the problem we want to change... the choice isn't "crime and punishment" or "crime and no punishment", we want something that's better than both of those... so, instead of spending all our efforts on punishment, we need to invest efforts in understanding what leads people to commit the crimes, work out if there are interventions that mean we won't have as many crimes needing punishment in our future. We need to understand people who "have no respect for society" to see exactly what our society hasn't done to earn that respect from those people. We need to get over seeing the results of social failings as "bad people" who "deserve" what they get retroactively... by not failing those people in the first place, the choice between "vengeance or suck it up" never has to be made... and we can start basic, by feeding the hungry, we protect those who the hungry would eventually turn on to steal from... by protecting those vulnerable to violence, we protect those who would be hurt when those vulnerable people form defensive gangs, selling heroine to other vulnerable people so they can buy the guns they need to defend themselves. This is the point, that the only real way to end the cycles of violence is to find more ways of stopping the cycles starting in the first place... and that means not being okay with seeing bad things happen, even when they are happening to bad people, but recognise that we need to work out how to reach people who will turn bad if nobody reaches them. Yes, people who "deserve" it can still be punished, but punishing people isn't an unsolved problem that needs our attention, we know how to do it... but making fewer people who will deserve it? That's where we need more attention, try more things, learn what works and what doesn't work, and not give up when we fail and just go back to being content with getting to punish people... it's complicated, but balance is found in the middle, with weights on both sides, not all piled up at one extreme or the other. Hope this made sense.

  • @vaiyt

    @vaiyt

    5 жыл бұрын

    This story reminds me of Behind The Sun, a movie that takes an Albanian blood feud story and transplants it to Brazil.

  • @ruki4929
    @ruki49295 жыл бұрын

    The title sounds like a DnD campaign. "the castle of Zog, king of the bloodfued."

  • @rodigoduterte9192

    @rodigoduterte9192

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wish DnD makes this an expansion pack where you could play as Zog

  • @Ricky-jr7io

    @Ricky-jr7io

    5 жыл бұрын

    +Rodrigo Duterte Your name makes this statement even funnier.

  • @Trex-or6cd

    @Trex-or6cd

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the idea.

  • @MountainsOfSadness

    @MountainsOfSadness

    5 жыл бұрын

    Evan's passion for storytelling, and the behaviours of people would make him an incredible GM.

  • @purplexl

    @purplexl

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't there something similar already out but in a never ending cycle called Curse of Strahd?

  • @Moltobenjamin
    @Moltobenjamin5 жыл бұрын

    Zog reportedly smoked over 200 cigarettes a day, just another Zog fun fact.

  • @asj3419

    @asj3419

    5 жыл бұрын

    SM(Z)OG

  • @phoenixjones7191

    @phoenixjones7191

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@asj3419 zmog

  • @errolkim1334

    @errolkim1334

    5 жыл бұрын

    Smog

  • @errolkim1334

    @errolkim1334

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fog Clog

  • @maximvsdread1610

    @maximvsdread1610

    4 жыл бұрын

    Do I kneel before Zog?

  • @aklip
    @aklip5 жыл бұрын

    King Zog had an estate he never moved into on Long Island, New York. It's a nature preserve now! They say he bought it with a bucket of diamonds and rubys.

  • @tp6335

    @tp6335

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would like to know more about this

  • @DaveXXX

    @DaveXXX

    5 жыл бұрын

    There's like nothing left of it at this point besides the steps in front and some pillars. It's pretty neat but it would be cooler if it looked anything like it used to

  • @tp6335

    @tp6335

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh, okay. And from whom did he buy it?

  • @DaveXXX

    @DaveXXX

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tp6335 I'm not entirely sure, I never looked too into the history of it. I've been there a few times, I live on Long Island. I'm sure if you just Google "king zog Long island" you'll find some stuff haha

  • @tp6335

    @tp6335

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @encellon
    @encellon5 жыл бұрын

    On a suddenly icy road in 1999, the driver of a white Ford Explorer SUV -- believing advertised hype about the impervious qualities of SUVs -- lost control of his vehicle, slid sideways across Route 135 a half mile from the starting line of the Boston Marathon, and crashed into our daughter. Speaking later with well-intentioned lawyers who asked me if I wanted justice -- Yes, I answered. I wanted Ford Motor company to raise my daughter from the dead, because only that would genuinely balance the equation. Such a miracle being utterly impossible, I decided that justice (or vengeance) was of no value to anyone if took the form of ruining someone else's life to balance what could not be balanced. And so, I spoke with the driver -- a bright kid with bright future -- a kid who had believed the hype -- a kid who had a terrible accident as a result of it. And instead of facing a ruinous lawsuit cutting short his hopes and dreams, I told him to take a stuffed animal from my daughter's bedroom, a token to help him remember what he had done, what he had taken from us -- and with that in mind, I told him to make up the difference by working to make the world a better place.

  • @RareEarthSeries

    @RareEarthSeries

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wow, Ken. That's intense, powerful, and incredibly poignant. I'm both sorry, and grateful, for your story.

  • @za4763

    @za4763

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, what you described was an accident. Blood feud is intentional.

  • @za4763

    @za4763

    5 жыл бұрын

    And there are rules to blood feud.

  • @encellon

    @encellon

    5 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps if accidents were more clearly recognized for what they are, some feuds might be avoided.

  • @diavolorosso69

    @diavolorosso69

    5 жыл бұрын

    You are an amazing person- the world needs more like you. Your daughter must have been very proud to have a dad like you.

  • @MrAlienautopsy
    @MrAlienautopsy5 жыл бұрын

    Rare Earth is quality content..this is the sort of content that should be supported. It's entertainment and education rolled into one.

  • @QueenDany69
    @QueenDany695 жыл бұрын

    Another brilliant video I'm Sicilian , there are still blood feuds/ Vendetta's in my family to this day. A bunch of blood spilled for no reason in my opinion. It's definitely true though, you live by the sword you will most definitely die by the sword.

  • @phoenixjones7191

    @phoenixjones7191

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rule 1: Don't fuck with sicillians. Rule 2: refer to rule 1

  • @QueenDany69

    @QueenDany69

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@phoenixjones7191 yasss

  • @KurtRichterCISSP

    @KurtRichterCISSP

    5 жыл бұрын

    Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

  • @crunchychips8123

    @crunchychips8123

    5 жыл бұрын

    And here I thought you were a Spaniard, Borgia.

  • @QueenDany69

    @QueenDany69

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@crunchychips8123 not my real name LOL

  • @Ricky-jr7io
    @Ricky-jr7io5 жыл бұрын

    If you wanna be philosophical, just watch rare earth videos. Thanks for the hard work man. You're doing an awesome job.

  • @JackgarPrime

    @JackgarPrime

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh man, that makes me REALLY want to see a collaboration between this channel and PhilosophyTube.

  • @GreatMalmsteen
    @GreatMalmsteen5 жыл бұрын

    Damn Albania looks really beautiful, I think I might give it a chance and visit it someday!

  • @hardys.4193

    @hardys.4193

    5 жыл бұрын

    went to albania this summer and i can fully recommend it. the history is very interesting and diverse and the countryside is very beautiful. you have a lot auf stunning beaches and breathtaking mountains and valleys. it is also very cheap and easy to travel. the people are also very friendly and welcoming to tourists and guests.

  • @megimegg8892

    @megimegg8892

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hardy Ernesti thank you guys 😊

  • @RhoninFire
    @RhoninFire5 жыл бұрын

    Your mention of the death penalty got me to recognize something that nobody has been able to connect. Every once in a while, a news story arises that reports a crime is so heinous and perpetrator so obvious that you'll start to see people say "I'm against the death penalty, but this makes me question that stance". That's the element of our collective personal justice. A phenomenon that nobody has quite been able to articulate until now.

  • @Poldovico

    @Poldovico

    5 жыл бұрын

    I dunno about heinous. As far as I'm concerned, there is no sense in death as a penalty or deterrent. I might be okay with someone who can not in any way be rehabilitated being euthanized, but I certainly don't trust anyone with the authority to make that call. I think I'll take occasionally telling myself "well, this one might as well die" and never seeing it happen over the chance of seeing it happen even once and forever questioning if I was mistaken.

  • @xyaeiounn

    @xyaeiounn

    5 жыл бұрын

    The death penalty is purely and merely a blood sacrifice to our fear and anger. It solves nothing, deters nothing. Some offenders are utterly intractable, this is a separate issue. We need to remove them because they are forever a threat, but we need to remain ethically and morally superior to those we punish because if we aren't then we are just the strong disposing of the weak. This is very hard to explain to fearful, angry people.

  • @xyaeiounn

    @xyaeiounn

    5 жыл бұрын

    "How are we "morally superior" if we protect, say a lawfully condemned killer from justice?" - this sentences equates violent vengeance with justice, a grievous error. A man kills another in an angry argument, that's different from a man waiting, armed to kill someone he argued with yesterday. The difference is malice aforethought. Both are killings, the intent is important to the just. Merely destroying the man you're 'pretty sure' committed a crime makes you just like him, superior only in power. "And in what way are murderers weak?" - once a murder has offended the whole of society turns against them. Once apprehended, charged, tried, convicted and sentenced they are at the mercy of power. Thinking a bureacratic state is different from a network of tribal snipers is also an error. Most murderers don't set a low value on life, most of them are full of regret for their crimes. Decades of criminology and statistics back this up. That and the realisation that a group of armed men transporting a prisoner to a place to be destroyed is just a murder too, is why only 53 places still execute criminals.

  • @xyaeiounn

    @xyaeiounn

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Bigfoot "You can talk about statistics and sociology all you want, but I have known personally several people who have murdered another person or attempted murder and not one of them was remorseful." This right here is why we have statistics and sociology, because 300 people will have 300 different sets of anecdotal evidence. Your experience is useful for you to navigate your life with, but when making broad policy that affects millions of lives we need those stats.

  • @xyaeiounn

    @xyaeiounn

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Bigfoot Yeah interpretation of statistics can be skewed to make a point if you have an agenda. Even by organizations. Judges and parole boards, however, have authority behind them and responsibility before them. Lots of people have been around criminals their whole life, that doesn't qualify them to make decisions. The remorseless killer is a bogeyman used in TV shows, they exist but they are much rarer than the idiot who killed someone, usually in his own socio-economic caste, over either money, status or a woman. TV shows people dramas every day about strangers attacking people, when the fact is we hurt people close to us much more often, friends, family, neighbors and co-workers. It's the criminolological statistics that prove that TV is garbage and fantasy.

  • @niko7877
    @niko78775 жыл бұрын

    Zog in Albanian means bird

  • @meshari-sx7gg

    @meshari-sx7gg

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or vagina in some cases

  • @vaultboy1469

    @vaultboy1469

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@meshari-sx7gg my man it does not mean vagina jesus christ

  • @freeillyria5345

    @freeillyria5345

    3 жыл бұрын

    His long last name was Zogolli

  • @vaultboy1469

    @vaultboy1469

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@meshari-sx7gg Sometimes we say chick meaning girl

  • @artuno1207
    @artuno12075 жыл бұрын

    Zog had quite the throwing arm, he could toss a scepter several city blocks away.

  • @BlindCap

    @BlindCap

    5 жыл бұрын

    That show was such a disappointment that I'm upset I got this reference.

  • @meevil24

    @meevil24

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BlindCap wait what?

  • @RbDaP
    @RbDaP5 жыл бұрын

    I want a progressive death metal band to write an hour long song about Zog The King of the Bloodfeud complete with audio insertions of his speeches

  • @chadoftoons

    @chadoftoons

    5 жыл бұрын

    Its going to be a 4 hour epoes with orchestrated interludes and rhapsody style songs thrown inbetween to really confuse every listener

  • @Blazo_Djurovic
    @Blazo_Djurovic5 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah, blood vengeance was a big thing over here in Montenero too roughly before the 19th century and the rise of the new state (weather the Ottomans considered it as such or not). There was even a saying which translates into "he who doesn't revenge himself does not sanctify himself" meaning NOT taking revenge is WRONG. And it would just start a cycle of revenge and counter revenge that would only end in destruction of one family. Fortunately there were SOME ways to end it but they were kinda extreme. Things like one side taking taking the last newborn to the other side and telling them that if they wish to continue the cycle they should kill the kid right then and there. If they didn't the families would seek to marry into each other and once they did so they would essentially become one family, a bond stronger than blood. But those were exceptions, things that happened when one side faced extinction. In the end it took a local leader who many considered a living saint even during his life, begging and pleading some of the longest running blood feuds to stop, and if they didn't threatening curses (and his curses had a way of coming to be, one way or another). Later once the leaders switched from being religious leaders to secular ones (mid 19th century) it took a LOT of time to drill into the people that any disagreements between people should be taken to the big boss. But on the upshot, the practice was kinda mostly abolished by the turn of the century. And all this BASICALLY started because there was no effective rule of law in the mountains of the Balkans. Ottomans didn't care much about what happened in these poor and inhospitable places, and the local Christian people certainly didn't trust their courts (as the saying goes "Qadi would sue you and Quadi would judge you") so they had to turn to local solutions. And they cared even less about justice once Montenegrins started murdering any Ottoman official who came to them demanding anything. One of which of course is the oldest way of "justice", an EYE for an EYE. Trouble with that is once that second eye was taken out, the familly of the original perpetrator wouldn't care about what he did but what was done to him. Basically, even though this goes against our innate sense of "justice", the courts, impartial third party, are the only way to solve the problem of justice. And even though there is something in us allways demanding BLOOD for wrongs, we REALLY need to stomp on that animal instinct for "justice" in us. In the end, NO punishment will ever turn back the clock and undo what was done.

  • @timfsfafaf7301

    @timfsfafaf7301

    5 жыл бұрын

    What tribe are you from? Kuci or Piperi?

  • @Blazo_Djurovic

    @Blazo_Djurovic

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well there are more tribes than that over here :D Mine were from the Old Montenegro, but we fled sometimes early 19th century (I think) (from some kind of vendeta shenanigans) to Grbalj on the coast. So we identify more with that place. That's our tribe now.

  • @Blazo_Djurovic

    @Blazo_Djurovic

    5 жыл бұрын

    That might have been the case in ordered parts of the Empire. This in turn was a proverb from those days. Even if all Qadi were righteous and corect, it does show that the local Christians didn't really trust any kind of such justice. Also to be fair, in the centuries in question, these western Balkan parts often ended up being ruled more by the local warlords than by Constantinople. Against of which the central government waged several wars. For example the first Serb Rebellion/Uprising, for most part had official approval from Porta because they were fighting the local warlords. And the rebellion was quashed once our rebels refused to acknowledge the Ottoman sovrenity and Ottoman army proper became involved. What I'm saying is that the state of things on the ground was quite different from what it should have been. Not to mention that even the priests wouldn't really be capable of making such decisions given that a lot of them had no schooling for the job, apart from knowing from memory the sermons and like. A lot of them would basically inherit the job. And Montenegro was in basically de facto state of rebellion for quite some time not caring what the Constantinople said. On the other hand it wasn't really a state, so apart from periodic attempts by local powers to subdue them nobody cared about that.

  • @timfsfafaf7301

    @timfsfafaf7301

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Blazo_Djurovic The reason i asked is because Montenegrin tribes near Albania tend to have the same culture as Albanian tribe the reason i suggested Kuci or peperi was because those tribes split between Albanian and Montenegrin/Serbian

  • @Blazo_Djurovic

    @Blazo_Djurovic

    5 жыл бұрын

    Eh. It's not really a specific culture. It's practically the culture of all mountain people. Independent, poor so the only way to stand out is family honor/name etc.

  • @jonizymberi6787
    @jonizymberi67875 жыл бұрын

    Nice video man. These Blood feuds derive from a set of laws created by a catholic Albanian prince called Leke Dukagjini in the 14-15th Centuries. This was because at the time after death of Skanderbeg most of Albania fell into the hands of the Turks except in the mountainous North, which the Turks could not really assert their authority or laws in. So the "Kanun of Leke Dukagjini" acted as a kind of substitute and symbol of defiance I guess, becoming the law in many parts of Northern Albania (which is were Zog is from).

  • @imperatoralbanie7668

    @imperatoralbanie7668

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheClamy8911 those laws weren’t established by Leke Dukagjini. Those where already tribe laws. Northern Albanians tribes and Montenegrin and Serbian tribes were similar or in my opinion the same. So its normal that we have these honor codes. Its used to say that these laws even dates from very ancient times.

  • @bofbob1
    @bofbob15 жыл бұрын

    Naming your kid Zog is just bad parenting. He basically has to become King of the Bloodfeud now. What other choice does he have? "Hi. I'm Zog from accounting. This is my wife Ultrogoth and our two children. Grishnàkh is going on 13 now. Gee whiz time flies doesn't it? And this is Bob, Witch-king of Angmar. He's almost 6." Seriously... Of course, he wouldn't even make it that far in life: how would he pay for accountant school? "Welcome to Burger King. My name is Zog. Can I have your order?" Poor Zog never had a chance.

  • @bofbob1

    @bofbob1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@produksioniBENI Cool. Thanks mate.

  • @bofbob1

    @bofbob1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Joey Gegaj Yes Joey, I'm mentally insane and I also don't know there are other languages in the world.

  • @bigolbugg

    @bigolbugg

    4 жыл бұрын

    J because jokes don’t exist

  • @kumsaati2128
    @kumsaati21285 жыл бұрын

    Hey! Just wanted to say Albania became independent not after World War I (or during it) but after the Balkan wars of 1912-1913.

  • @mrpotatochu6611

    @mrpotatochu6611

    3 жыл бұрын

    Before the ww1 it was militarily governed by serbia and only central or northern(not sure whitch one) albania was truly independant

  • @p3on
    @p3on5 жыл бұрын

    eye for an eye is not blood feud. the talion system is more sophisticated than it sounds: if you take someone's eye, then under the talion you are given the legal right to his eye. you can take it, as you're legally entitled to, but almost always you 'sell' the rights back to him for blood money. this leaves you in a very strong bargaining position: the price you can demand is not what his eye is worth to you, but what his eye is worth *to him*. most likely it will end up a huge sum that his clan will have to step up to pay, say 50 cattle. this leaves you with one less eye and fifty more cattle, and him with a deep debt to his family, so in practice clans keep their own members in check. it's a justice system for stateless societies. blood feuds on the other hand are the result of insults to honor and retaliation spiraling out of control , which is exactly what the talion was meant to correct for.

  • @p3on

    @p3on

    5 жыл бұрын

    they're both pre-christian/islamic, they stem from honor culture

  • @danielpealer3561

    @danielpealer3561

    5 жыл бұрын

    If I remember correctly the fully developed version of retributive justice (of which Talion law is an early version) holds that the criminal owes a debt to the victim of the crime (or the victim's heirs) in proportion to the crime done, the heirs or relations of the criminal are not involved unless they are in current possession of provably stolen property which should be restored to the victim without compensation. (the loss of property is a direct result of the criminal's action in transferring an illegitimate title to the other person). Fundamentally though the point is that the criminals rights are to be violated to the extent that the rights of the victim were violated and no further. If A steals $500 from B then A must return that $500 (restoration) and pay a further $500 (retribution) to the victim. It must be remembered however that there is no injustice done should the victim forgive some or all of the debt owed by the criminal. The sad fact of the matter is that justice systems that promote the "good of society" have a large downside in that they often harm the victim even more, after all B has lost $500 to A, he now has the dubious honor of having to pay to catch convict and then support the man who victimized him as long as A remains in jail.

  • @Beurglessse

    @Beurglessse

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well by definition the Talion law is not a justice system because it is fundamentally unjust and unfair. Letting the victim decide the punishment (even when restricting it to a maximum) is terrible idea that should never be implemented.

  • @p3on

    @p3on

    5 жыл бұрын

    " This is the logic of lex talionis. This is why "an eye for an eye" did not in fact make the whole world go blind. The principle of an eye for an eye, as Miller sees it, is "the more ancient and deeper notion that justice is a matter of restoring balance, achieving equity, determining equivalence, making reparations... getting back to zero, to even." [3] Trading eyes for eyes is not so much about indiscriminate, unthinking violence as it is carefully calculated attempts to match punishment to crime. Talionic justice is a system built on deterrence--not only deterring criminals from committing crimes, but deterring vengeance seekers from exacting too heavy a price in retaliation for crimes committed against them. This is empathy enforced by blood. You think carefully about the pain you inflict on others knowing, that measure for measure, the pain you give others will be given back to you." i'm not so sure it's much worse than locking people in cages with psychopaths or letting a judge decide how much your eye is worth

  • @damienvalentine5043

    @damienvalentine5043

    5 жыл бұрын

    "[insert idealized academic discussion of Lex Talionis here]...which is exactly what the talion was meant to correct for." And which it obviously *fails* to correct for, which is why it either evolves into a more sophisticated legal system, or (more frequently) devolves back into lynch-mobs. On the one hand, you've already conceded that penalties should be determined by some drawn-out process which you won't have complete control over. In that case, why not just entrust the whole thing to some qualified third party who can...I dunno, let's say "judge" the dispute? I don't know what you'd call that person, but we can figure it out as we go along. :) On the other hand, suppose you can't convince his clan to give up 50 cattle, or even one -- maybe you're bad at negotiating, maybe they just hate your guts because you worship the wrong tree. What then? Well, you TAKE those 50 cattle you're entitled to, inevitably with the help of your own clan, and maybe somebody gets killed in the scuffle, and now they're accusing you all of stealing and/or murder, so now it's war, FANTASTIC.

  • @Christo-7734
    @Christo-77345 жыл бұрын

    You guys create what I think are by far the best untold history and social studies videos I have ever seen. I have been to some of S.E. Asia over the last 4 years, but that is the extent of my travels so far. your videos have opened my eyes to new things about each culture I have come across at this time. Also, I think that this is what should be taught is school now, our education system needs an update. keep up the amazing work, can't wait for the next vid.

  • @bayareajokester9456
    @bayareajokester94565 жыл бұрын

    Every video you upload is rejuvenating! I always reevaluate my perception of the world thanks to the stories you share. Thank you.

  • @Pique147
    @Pique1475 жыл бұрын

    If only a half of one percent of people had your kind of insight to the human condition, the world would be a better place. I love your videos and your commentary on the actions of humanity and the causes and results of them, and the background to why they happened and the eventual, inevitable consequences of those seemingly understandable yet ultimately catastrophic decisions. Absolutely my favourite channel.

  • @jarrettharbour8867
    @jarrettharbour88675 жыл бұрын

    We need more people on KZread like you becuase you make history really interesting and you can really tell a story. Great work keep it up you deserve to be the biggest channel on yt

  • @theprofessor1484
    @theprofessor14845 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for another great video. I have lived through that as have many people and I love they way you show it to people.

  • @y_fam_goeglyd
    @y_fam_goeglyd5 жыл бұрын

    I wish someone at BBC news would see you. They have "between-news" series - travel, technology etc. You and your stories would fit in perfectly in a 15 - 25 minute slot. Thanks for all your (inc everyone involved) hard work and excellent storytelling. I've learned more about the small - and sometimes big - stories from many parts of the world than I thought possible.

  • @FreeFallingAir
    @FreeFallingAir5 жыл бұрын

    Starting to really get into y'all's videos, Keep up the great work Rare Earth!

  • @deadpiratetattoo2015
    @deadpiratetattoo20155 жыл бұрын

    This channel does what no other does. Great channel. Thanks

  • @l0lLorenzol0l
    @l0lLorenzol0l5 жыл бұрын

    Kneel before Zog!

  • @thatotherguy27

    @thatotherguy27

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was gonna do it if nobody else did.

  • @-ahvilable-6654

    @-ahvilable-6654

    5 жыл бұрын

    Zionist

  • @someguysomeone3543

    @someguysomeone3543

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@-ahvilable-6654 wut?

  • @WtfBananaShi

    @WtfBananaShi

    5 жыл бұрын

    oy vey

  • @MrBigCookieCrumble

    @MrBigCookieCrumble

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fiiinally i was scrolling through tons of comments looking for this hahaha!

  • @user-ld4qt6ci7b
    @user-ld4qt6ci7b5 жыл бұрын

    At least he has one of the best names people have ever been named.

  • @user-ld4qt6ci7b

    @user-ld4qt6ci7b

    5 жыл бұрын

    @TheBeginning kzread.info/dash/bejne/q5WByNN_Y7fVp9Y.html

  • @fuckyshityfuckshit
    @fuckyshityfuckshit5 жыл бұрын

    Every Sunday the first thing I do is check my notifications for new rare earth. I wish these were an hour long. Love you guys

  • @lewismassie
    @lewismassie5 жыл бұрын

    One of my favourite parts of this series is the little clips at the end of what goes on. Really subtle, but enlightening

  • @turdl38
    @turdl383 жыл бұрын

    Zog really is an irresistible name. Glad a friend sent me to the channel. Been worth the binge-watch while in bed recovering from a bad flare of my autoimmune condition.

  • @IM-iw7wd
    @IM-iw7wd5 жыл бұрын

    My great grandfather was in a blood feud, thank god it was resolved because it would of continued till this day.

  • @barateza16
    @barateza165 жыл бұрын

    Good way to start the weekend. Thanks Evan

  • @darwinfowler8877
    @darwinfowler88775 жыл бұрын

    Great message, thank you for making these videos!

  • @wales2815
    @wales28155 жыл бұрын

    The Balkans weren't free because of the first World War, but because of the first Balkan war (1912). The Ottomans lost all territory in southern Serbia, southern Bulgaria, and northern Greece. The nations were, however, free before that (due to the congress of Berlin). Albania declared independence after the Albanian revolt in 1912. Great video, though. Very interesting!

  • @imperatoralbanie7668

    @imperatoralbanie7668

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually,we Albanians started to declare indipendence in 1878 with the League of Prizren but we were recognized in 1913

  • @SufferToResist
    @SufferToResist5 жыл бұрын

    The most profound and deepest episode yet. Well done Evan.

  • @hobog
    @hobog5 жыл бұрын

    I first noticed Albania as a kid, because its flag is cool. I want to visit, thanks to this channel

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    I love your content. Thank you for making it.

  • @marcinkalinowski4879
    @marcinkalinowski48795 жыл бұрын

    I love the broad perspective you present in these videos.

  • @harrybutz947
    @harrybutz9475 жыл бұрын

    I haven't commented on a video before. Probably won't for just as long as I've visited KZread. But I love you Evan. You have given more insight into culture than I could have gotten through school and half of Netflix. And I'd die happy just seeing you reply with an "ok". Thanks for the knowledge and entertainment.

  • @RareEarthSeries

    @RareEarthSeries

    5 жыл бұрын

    Love ya Dylan!

  • @mjisabelle18
    @mjisabelle184 жыл бұрын

    I had no idea that King Zog from Disenchantment was named after a real world leader.

  • @gavinf4777

    @gavinf4777

    4 жыл бұрын

    me too

  • @mummert1313
    @mummert13135 жыл бұрын

    One of your best videos. More video structure like this plz.

  • @rupertdewilde705
    @rupertdewilde7055 жыл бұрын

    Great Video, loving the end credits. Now subscribed.

  • @user-mb6sy4fn7w
    @user-mb6sy4fn7w5 жыл бұрын

    I always find it so amusing getting Chris Hadfield's masterclass ads on Rare Earth videos

  • @adonisberbatovci3434
    @adonisberbatovci34345 жыл бұрын

    Are you planning on doing a video about religion in Albania? The religion in Albania has a really unique history.

  • @lalchimiste6947

    @lalchimiste6947

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah

  • @bigteddybear5962
    @bigteddybear59625 жыл бұрын

    Second most important Rare Earth video. Just no words.

  • @rastkomiocinovic
    @rastkomiocinovic5 жыл бұрын

    I loved the Albania series! Are you going to visit other countries in the Balkans?

  • @CL_CORTES
    @CL_CORTES5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for continuing to educate us. Its good to know people the world over are basically all the same.

  • @retiredchannel
    @retiredchannel5 жыл бұрын

    insert "submit to zog" memes here *SUBMIT TO ZOGG*

  • @iamwhoyoucall2329

    @iamwhoyoucall2329

    5 жыл бұрын

    *OUR ONLY ZOT*

  • @VS-jq1kz
    @VS-jq1kz5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome work. Like a traveling cooking show that feeds the mind.

  • @gaiusjuliuscaesar7761
    @gaiusjuliuscaesar77615 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Zog sounds wild

  • @Aangenios
    @Aangenios5 жыл бұрын

    I love your channel and your videos. I was born in Italy but my parents were born in southern Albania, it will be great if I meet you there one day. I could show you Vranisht, the village of my mother, and the incredible valley where it is.

  • @theunundunly5368
    @theunundunly53685 жыл бұрын

    Z O G

  • @-ahvilable-6654

    @-ahvilable-6654

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shut it down

  • @cv4809

    @cv4809

    5 жыл бұрын

    *Z O C C*

  • @mike-dp3lv

    @mike-dp3lv

    5 жыл бұрын

    zog in albanian means bird

  • @MicrobyteAlan
    @MicrobyteAlan5 жыл бұрын

    Another great story. Thanks from Orlando.

  • @nevar108
    @nevar1085 жыл бұрын

    Albania is gorgeous... and you have showed it off with style and depth. Thanks!

  • @karstenwinkler6923
    @karstenwinkler6923 Жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @dcamaj
    @dcamaj4 жыл бұрын

    My grandfather was moderator for blood feuds and all kinds of disputes, crazy shit

  • @chaitanyakore3449
    @chaitanyakore34495 жыл бұрын

    Skill with which you justified your previous story in this video is beyond my comprehension. Brilliant. I didn't much disagree with you on that story but read many comments in that didn't really get it . To them the scale of destruction seemed of no value . This video show puts that in perspective as well. Well done.

  • @bradtaasevigen9777

    @bradtaasevigen9777

    5 жыл бұрын

    👏it's👏never👏ok👏to👏torture👏 children👏

  • @ceterfo
    @ceterfo3 жыл бұрын

    2:40 I'm fairly certain that from that single line about the hadfields and McCoys I imagined for these past couple of years that you had an episode where you visited that place. PS that would be dope.

  • @Jason-gq8fo
    @Jason-gq8fo5 жыл бұрын

    your videos are so interesting and make me want to learn and travel the world

  • @vanhasydan4754
    @vanhasydan4754 Жыл бұрын

    I learned from both the past (Winter War among others) and my late grandfather that when forced to use violence, slaughter the attacker in a manner so horrifying and gruesome that any other whom sees the result will reconsider following in their footsteps. The key we were taught is you don't start a fight, you end it.

  • @ljwilliamsair
    @ljwilliamsair5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome episode retaliatory nature is one of our biggest downfall as humans

  • @skjelm6363
    @skjelm63635 жыл бұрын

    Nice footage, interesting story, thanks for that! I enjoy going through your clips! But in this one the sound is screwed up - there is a constant annoying humming-sound in the background

  • @hunterlehmann2139
    @hunterlehmann21395 жыл бұрын

    Very very important message thank you

  • @BarginsGalore
    @BarginsGalore3 жыл бұрын

    I always think back to the grangerfords and the shepherdsons when I think about blood feuds. No one remembered how it began but that didn’t stop them from dying for it

  • @vaiyt
    @vaiyt2 жыл бұрын

    The Albanian practice of the bloodfeud was depicted in the novel Broken April by Ismail Kadare. The story was transplanted to the Northeast of Brazil in the movie Behind The Sun.

  • @Flugmorph
    @Flugmorph5 жыл бұрын

    3:30 he wanted to act cool by touching the bollard but almost fell lmao

  • @AredioVani
    @AredioVani5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome educational video.

  • @daniobevasdellio7066
    @daniobevasdellio70665 жыл бұрын

    You guys are one o the few people I know that travel with a purpose

  • @besaru5103
    @besaru51035 жыл бұрын

    thanks!

  • @Bawbalicious
    @Bawbalicious5 жыл бұрын

    Interesting how this show started out as a history documentary and has lately been strongly shifting the balance towards challenging the audience philosophically through examples in history. A lot heavier to watch but I wouldn't change it for the world!

  • @Drishby
    @Drishby5 жыл бұрын

    Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu.. Truly inspiring ʕ•ᴥ• ʔ

  • @birdvideos9085
    @birdvideos90854 жыл бұрын

    "Though justice be thy plea, consider this: that in the course of justice none of us should see salvation."

  • @michaelbianchi22
    @michaelbianchi225 жыл бұрын

    Man... Albania seems to be your longest series thus far. I am not sure if I'm supposed to feel bad at my anger towards the child sacrifice in Chile. I was one of those people who called for more bloodshed... I want to say I'm above the need for vengeance, yet sociopathy, the ability to willingly turn off your conscience at will, runs in my family. My family on my dad's side goes back to Scotland. One part in the Wallace clan, the other a cannibal clan (by the way another destination for you to explore). Maybe I'm just a victim of my humanity.

  • @pscheidt
    @pscheidt5 жыл бұрын

    i love that you are getting lighter in tone.

  • @BlackfeatherTanfur
    @BlackfeatherTanfur4 жыл бұрын

    So what is your take on wereguild (man price, blood money)? It was (a) way for society to end blood feud. It seems that if it were to be used, the wealth (or income) of perpetrator would also have to be taken into account. Otherwise, it'd just be a way for the rich to avoid any hurt. IDK how effective it was, I have no idea what historical studies there might be on it. Also, is some form of restorative justice (whereby restitution is paid to the victim or their heir) a modern form of wereguild?

  • @annoloki
    @annoloki5 жыл бұрын

    That's the thing about the choice between peace and revenge... you can only choose peace when it's your turn to choose, you can't choose "revenge and then peace" because after you've moved to revenge, it's not your turn to choose anymore... the choice of peace or revenge goes to your adversary, it's their turn to choose... if they choose peace, you can get peace, but if they choose revenge, only then does it come back to you... how do you respond to their revenge? Do you choose peace, or revenge?

  • @ipadista
    @ipadista5 жыл бұрын

    One of your better videos!

  • @alexwhale1435
    @alexwhale14355 жыл бұрын

    😎 Cool work bro

  • @michaelcherry8952
    @michaelcherry89525 жыл бұрын

    Why is it that every one of your histories seem to have application in the here and now? The old saw that those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it is considered to be so clichéd , but no one seems to realize that this is precisely what is happening right now in 2018. Look around and you can find many Zogs and Rustemis, each one absolutely convinced that the only way forward is to eliminate any opposition, each one convinced that they are right and theirs is the only true path. Honestly, I keep wondering when we humans are going to start using our much-vaunted "superior intellect" to solve problems as opposed to exacerbating them. Good on you for keeping this in the forefront.

  • @marcdoughty-lee2294

    @marcdoughty-lee2294

    5 жыл бұрын

    Michael Cherry the thing is though that humans at there core are the same it doesn’t matter how many dictators rise and fall how many wars are for nothing we’ll carry on and repeat our mistakes till we go extinct.

  • @michaelcherry8952

    @michaelcherry8952

    5 жыл бұрын

    Unstable Quasar: And yet I personally know many people to whom the kind of behavior that results in blood feuds would be unthinkable. Humans may be the same at their core, but the thing that separates a dictator like Zog from people who spend their lives trying to help one another is a conscious decision. That's where the "superior intellect" is supposed to come in. At our core, we have the potential to be a Zog or a Ghandi. It is a choice, even (and especially) when circumstances seem to swing the balance in favor of the destructive choice. To be able to resist the pull of destruction, even in horrific circumstances, is the ultimate goal. Once we have enough people that will make that hard choice, the blood feuds and wars will diminish. They won't disappear completely, because there will still be people choosing destruction, but the hope is that these will be a small, stubborn minority of the population. We live in hope, even though it often looks like despair.

  • @marcdoughty-lee2294

    @marcdoughty-lee2294

    5 жыл бұрын

    Michael Cherry the problem with that argument is that we already do live in hope we live in some of the most peaceful and best times in human history sure there’s problems but those problems become smaller each year.

  • @za4763

    @za4763

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelcherry8952 blood feuds are necessary because there is no justice system in albania.

  • @michaelcherry8952

    @michaelcherry8952

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@za4763 I'm afraid I disagree. I would argue that what is necessary in Albania is a working justice system. The lack of a justice system may result in blood feuds, but it does not make them necessary.

  • @chambersbenjo
    @chambersbenjo5 жыл бұрын

    Bloody. Brilliant.

  • @trandyboy555
    @trandyboy5555 жыл бұрын

    Your vids are awsome😀! Greetings from Albania👐🇦🇱

  • @jameseglavin4
    @jameseglavin45 жыл бұрын

    Damn... Albania is awesome

  • @HxH2011DRA
    @HxH2011DRA5 жыл бұрын

    "There never was such a thing as absolute justice, but only agreements made in mutual dealings among men in whatever places at various times providing against the infliction or suffering of harm."- Epicurus

  • @iiiiitsmagreta1240
    @iiiiitsmagreta12405 жыл бұрын

    Not early - just lucky (also, this is probably your best title yet)

  • @danielyahalom3961
    @danielyahalom39615 жыл бұрын

    HOW DO THESE VIDEOS KEEP BETTING BETTER

  • @VVEmil
    @VVEmil4 жыл бұрын

    Kneel before Zog! Wait, wrong medium.

  • @labinothoxha83
    @labinothoxha835 жыл бұрын

    Hope you making your way to Kosovo after your trip in Albania, I have a few stories and places I can suggest.

  • @kachel313
    @kachel3135 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video about self proclaimed states Like sealand?

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    I hope you get to Belgium some day.

  • @rodigoduterte9192
    @rodigoduterte91925 жыл бұрын

    I think I heard zog name in first Power ranger series....

  • @FrancisBehnen
    @FrancisBehnen5 жыл бұрын

    Amazing response to the comments on the video about human sacrifice

  • @_AQUILA
    @_AQUILA5 жыл бұрын

    Bloodfeud was also common in my country Montenegro,we called it "krvna osveta" or "bloody revenge".

  • @darkkhof
    @darkkhof5 жыл бұрын

    The last sentence has gave the true meaning of what the world is now

  • @rexdxiv
    @rexdxiv5 жыл бұрын

    You are genius!

  • @hullinstruments
    @hullinstruments Жыл бұрын

    Goddamnit Evan why do you keep hitting me with well researched facts and history. Now I have to change my opinion again

  • @samuelroyal7236
    @samuelroyal72362 жыл бұрын

    What the name of the video about Chile and human sacrifice?

  • @HandsumeAJ
    @HandsumeAJ3 жыл бұрын

    Zog is the guy you forget then reminded exist when you play hoi4

  • @harlandeke
    @harlandeke4 жыл бұрын

    You can pontificate at me all you want, but if somebody hurts my family...they better hope the law gets to them first.

  • @weirdshibainu
    @weirdshibainu4 жыл бұрын

    I had no idea Albania was so picturesque.