3:23 the frame 6:01 start 7:17 follow pressure by coming up 13:52 turtle from mount 16:01 sitting up 21:49 sit up or escape away 23:23 elbow escape stiff arm far hip 28:35 sit up vs always pulling guard 30:00 side control sit up escapes 32:44 defending bow and arrow from top

I've been trying this with some success based on the other mount video. I survived the chokes people put on me but it was pretty miserable so I'm hoping I can improve on that. That said, being under mount is a miserable place and I did at least survive. Priit's shrimp is similar to John Danaher's "rising shrimp". Danaher also teaches the frame across the hips, although he doesn't emphasize grabbing the hip (or even turning to your side). Danaher is great, but I actually think Priit's system is far more sophisticated and brilliant. It's intuitive in that you use similar mechanics throughout and your movements tie into each other and counter-intuitive in that some things you wouldn't expect to work, do work. The thing that I love about all this is that Priit uses a BOTTOM UP approach (conceptually, not just literally) and explains things with logic. That way, things make sense. Most Jiu-jitsu is taught TOP DOWN - in this situation, do "technique X" and don't worry about why. The techniques are isolated. The problem with the TOP DOWN approach is that there are too many situations! (On a side note, some people are no doubt going to accuse Priit of talking too much. These people are idiots.) The cool thing about jiu-jitsu is that rolling tends to iron out bad habits and, even with ineffective teaching, we can simply look at the best players in competition to try and figure out what truly works. I know Priit has taken inspiration from great players like Telles. Anyway, very cool stuff as usual. This channel as a whole is absolutely amazing.

@DefensiveBJJ

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

@ThugLifeModafocah

10 ай бұрын

I think it is because it is simple and have answers to several different things. I like these things that are optimal. With one action you answer several different questions.

Have tried it and it works!! This guy is defying all we thought we knew. Break the rules and step outside what you were taught!

@DefensiveBJJ

4 жыл бұрын

:)

This stuff is gold thanks priit

@DefensiveBJJ

4 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

With all your systems, that have greatly improved my game btw, this video has really "clicked" with me the most and truly put the systems you teach into focus for me. My regret is not getting the opportunity to watch this one sooner, though I have been using the arm from another video I saw you show the arm from bottom mount. Thank you for all your generous content. It's a real game changer. I hope I get to attend a seminar with you one day.

@DefensiveBJJ

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I am completely intrigued with this statements. I am taking notes...

Priit is amazing! Can listen to this guy philosophize on Jiu Jitsu all day. I attempt to implement all of his escapes; and they work (for me).

Incredible...as usual.

@DefensiveBJJ

4 жыл бұрын

:)

This is Gold! Im definitely going to use this!! Oss

Thanks!

Hello I wanted to say that From your videos that I have seen ,they have help me very much to be better in BJJ, I am better in every thing that have with BJJ.my dream is to train with you one day . Wish you all the best from Sweden 🙏🇸🇪🙃

@DefensiveBJJ

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! :) ...I am happy that I am able to help

There is always a counter to whatever is shown,question is,does it work better than the traditional way we are taught to escape the position? Can you combine it with other escapes you already know? I think that the answer is definitely yes (from testing it out in rolls) You definitely have to come up when they posture up or you are in trouble but if you maintain awareness and keep the frame attached to the hip it's a pretty solid defense. His point about knowing when to reset is key as well

@DefensiveBJJ

4 жыл бұрын

:)

Brilliant

Fucking gold mine.

@priit mihkelson you mentioned that ryron gracie does a thai clinch in mount to do the bridge roll escape? 27:00

Where should you aim the elbow of your framing arm? It looks like Priit keeps it between the top player's legs. I have very long arms so I expect it to look different for me. Anybody familiar with this style of defense who can help?

This is good. I can buy IOD from here. Thank you

This guy changed my entire game smh

It seems to me so much of this discussion really depends on whether or not you want to be defensively sound vs strikes as well. Panda and turtle and “they can’t do anything in mount” seems to be much less defensively sound vs an opponent who can strike. A lot of gyms that focus on Bjj still do train positions and techniques with a nod to the possibility of strikes and that is VERY IMPORTANT to some of us. This is not to say I don’t think any of his points are valid, but of the 5 hours or so of his that I’ve watched/listened to, it just seems he doesn’t pay any mind to this whatsoever.

@drock00013

Ай бұрын

turtle doesnt work with strikes? be more active like you would mounted with strikes. watch colby lawler. mma stand ups happen from turtle alot

Is there MMA version of that position?

You know one of the things about me too is I’m all about escaping but I’m all about countering there’s almost everything that I do the counters. And then it turns into movements today we were talking at class it’s not about positions it’s about the movement that you get into the creates that position. I think it’s interesting because I was at a seminar and it was world champions teaching a jujitsu one of the guys was teaching a bit well I went over worked out for a minute and then I went back over to my professor which is Professor Pedro Sauer and I asked him what happens if they push the leg like this? He turned to me and says let’s work on the move and not worry about that stuff but when I worried about that stuff that move did not work. And the thing is it’s like I totally agree if you want to learn how to defend yourself versus Jujitsu you need to learn Jujitsu everything about Jujitsu. If you want to learn more about beating other things then you need to have more information that’s why I have a black belt in judo that’s why I do stand up fighting that’s why I do jujitsu that’s why I do a few different kinds of jujitsu and I totally agree with this guy I appreciate that way of thinking and I’ve always done it

I want to see if he can defend top level black belt's attacks

does he call it hawking cause he looks like steven hawking

@benkelly7182

5 ай бұрын

Bro I’ve been wondering this 😂

There is no need to go double under like he does at 13:37. I go top arm under leg, bridge off top toe and get back to a neutral position or better at least 80% of time. No way I am satisfied with stopping at side control. Rather stay in mount.

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIWotcqdeK3OdrQ.html One year later, Pedro Sauer shows a baby-bridge mount escape like the one you have been showing for some time. Sauer still cares about the neck too much, though. Your "click in the hip" works way better in my experience.

It didn't work in this match kzread.info/dash/bejne/onaCt7ydn6iek7w.html

@RhynoMegapron

Ай бұрын

i don't think he would have tapped if the wall wasn't there

exchange bottom mount for my back being taken? No thanks.

@thai-anhnguyen5527

4 жыл бұрын

Rynman Manno turtle defense.

@jsl8461

4 жыл бұрын

You're only going to get your back taken if you make a mistake. So you might get submitted a lot when you first learn the technique, but after a certain level you'll find sitting up to be highly effective. By the way, pretty much all the major mount escapes will expose you to the armbar and back take -- including the elbow-knee escape, the trap-and-bridge escape, the double-under scoop escape, and the roll-back escape where you put your feet in the opponent's armpits. To be honest, I wouldn't bother teaching this style of escape to beginners, since it relies on precise positioning, good hand fighting, and situational awareness to stay safe (skills that most beginners don't have). But for people interested in using their grappling in an MMA setting, or for advanced BJJ practitioners who want comprehensive knowledge of each position, it's worth learning. Sitting up is a very powerful escape option from all the pins, including side mount, mount, and north-south. (For what it's worth, Marcelo Garcia teaches the sit up escape from mount too.)

@samuraisteve2775

4 жыл бұрын

Yup...his arrogant, “give me a Brown Belt” blew up in his face. He was even beginning to breath heavy and he was in a body triangle, which is WAY worse than being mounted. 😂👍☝️🙏👊😂

@jsl8461

4 жыл бұрын

@@samuraisteve2775 If it's MMA, you might very well prefer to defend a back body triangle instead of a mount. It depends on the skills and situation, but you'll notice in MMA many skilled fighters will look to turn their back if they cannot shrimp or bridge out of the mount within a few seconds. It's not because MMA fighters are stupid and don't know that giving up their back is bad -- it's because they know it's not nearly as bad as staying on the bottom of mount when strikes are allowed (they also know that under MMA rules, they can use the wall to escape the back, and they can also use massive MMA gloves to help defend chokes). In submission grappling and BJJ, the back is pretty much always better than the mount. Statistically speaking, the back is the best finishing position (along with leg entanglements that expose the inside heel hook, such as the saddle and 50/50 variations). Priit Mikhelson is an excellent teacher, everything he teaches here is fundamentally sound. It may not be for suitable for beginners or even intermediate practitioners, but it's all legit technique and most advanced practitioners should be able to apply these moves. He's not the first one to use these techniques, his techniques overlap with Marcelo Garcia (who also teaches to sit up from mount, even though it potentially "exposes" the back), Eduardo Telles (who was the first person to really get good at turtle defense for BJJ), MMA fighters (who are excellent at using the referee's position to escape the back, thanks to their wrestling), and EBI competitors (who have to master escapes from the body triangle due to overtime rules).

@arienkock6286

3 жыл бұрын

If anyone reading the original comment hasn't seen Priits back escape videos, I suggest you do. It'll shed light on the back-taken position he ends up in. Showing how it can be made safe. Even though IBJJF points-wise it's a downgrade, in that position you're much closer to standing up than in bottom mount.